2024-02-14 18:00:11 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !startmeeting EPEL (2024-02-14)

2024-02-14 18:00:12 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-02-14 18:00:11 UTC
2024-02-14 18:00:12 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'EPEL (2024-02-14)'
2024-02-14 18:00:18 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !meetingname epel

2024-02-14 18:00:22 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !topic aloha

2024-02-14 18:00:35 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !hi
2024-02-14 18:00:37 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his
2024-02-14 18:00:56 <@salimma:fedora.im> !hi
2024-02-14 18:00:59 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Michel Lind (salimma) - he / him / his
2024-02-14 18:01:13 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> !hi
2024-02-14 18:01:14 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Neil Hanlon (neil) - he / him / his
2024-02-14 18:01:22 <@salimma:fedora.im> Stephen said that then did not show up :(
2024-02-14 18:01:33 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Hi Conan Kudo Michel Lind🎩 and Neil Hanlon 
2024-02-14 18:01:41 <@smooge:fedora.im> well I don't know what the hours are or where
2024-02-14 18:01:57 <@smooge:fedora.im> my question was more "huh where would I go?" which I did not articulate well
2024-02-14 18:02:03 <@smooge:fedora.im> hello tro
2024-02-14 18:02:06 <@smooge:fedora.im> hello troy
2024-02-14 18:02:18 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Hello Stephen J Smoogen 
2024-02-14 18:02:25 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> https://www.centos.org/community/calendar/#centos-stream-office-hours-meetopensuse-not-irc
2024-02-14 18:02:26 <@salimma:fedora.im> ahh
2024-02-14 18:02:56 <@salimma:fedora.im> Stephen J Smoogen: I subscribe to this ical feed https://git.centos.org/centos/centos.org/raw/main/f/community/irc-meetings.ical
2024-02-14 18:03:02 <@salimma:fedora.im> for CentOS meetings
2024-02-14 18:03:06 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> it's a very useful ical feed
2024-02-14 18:03:28 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> though I need to update the calendar records for Hyperscale
2024-02-14 18:04:36 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I love the URL for the office hours.  Two different distributions, sperated by a /
2024-02-14 18:04:59 <@tdawson:fedora.im> https://meet.opensuse.org/centosstream
2024-02-14 18:05:40 <@salimma:fedora.im> and that it then redirects to meet-test because meet is still broken :P
2024-02-14 18:05:45 <@salimma:fedora.im> and you have to authorize your camera twice
2024-02-14 18:05:53 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> !hi
2024-02-14 18:05:54 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Carl George (carlwgeorge) - he / him / his
2024-02-14 18:06:00 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Hi Carl George 
2024-02-14 18:06:12 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !topic End Of Life (EOL)
2024-02-14 18:06:17 <@tdawson:fedora.im> RHEL 7 / epel-7 will go EOL on 2024-06-30
https://endoflife.date/rhel
CentOS Stream 8 / epel-8-next goes EOL in 2024-05-31
CentOS Stream 9 / epel-9-next goes EOL in 2027-05-31
https://endoflife.date/centos-stream

2024-02-14 18:06:34 <@tdawson:fedora.im> The clock ticks on ...
2024-02-14 18:06:44 <@salimma:fedora.im> almost exactly 3.5 months to go! exciting
2024-02-14 18:06:52 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !topic EPEL Issues https://pagure.io/epel/issues
2024-02-14 18:06:57 <@tdawson:fedora.im> https://pagure.io/epel/issues?tags=meeting&status=Open
2024-02-14 18:07:13 <@smooge:fedora.im> .. antacid shipments for July 1st
2024-02-14 18:07:26 <@tdawson:fedora.im> We don't have any issues marked for the meeting .... moving on.
2024-02-14 18:07:32 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> morning
2024-02-14 18:07:40 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Morning nirik 
2024-02-14 18:07:56 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !topic Old Business
2024-02-14 18:09:07 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I don't know if this is old business or new, but it goes more with the EOL ... do we have a releng ticket for archiving epel8-next ?
2024-02-14 18:09:21 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Is it too early to create one?
2024-02-14 18:10:41 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Does anyone have any old Business they'd like to bring up?
2024-02-14 18:11:07 <@salimma:fedora.im> I think it's not too early
2024-02-14 18:11:36 <@salimma:fedora.im> related to epel8-next - I actually plan on only packaging for epel8-next if someone at work asked me for an urgent package for centos stream 8 :)
2024-02-14 18:12:03 <@salimma:fedora.im> so they auto-expire when that goes away and I don't have to maintain it in epel8 once we don't have any deployment left in house
2024-02-14 18:13:08 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I'm the same way.  I'm not totally ignoring it, but only if something currently breaks on centos stream 8 ... which currently, nothing of mine does.
2024-02-14 18:13:33 <@smooge:fedora.im> wasn't that yesterday?
2024-02-14 18:13:46 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> it's a blur. ;)
2024-02-14 18:13:51 <@smooge:fedora.im> or do I have another one to answer :)
2024-02-14 18:15:04 <@smooge:fedora.im> Troy Dawson: I think at 3 months it isn't too early to open a ticket to plan work for archiving EPEL7 and EPEL8
2024-02-14 18:15:34 <@smooge:fedora.im> there are various tasks which are different from how Fedora items get archived which may need to be broken out and documented early
2024-02-14 18:15:36 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> it's another one. this is buildroot.
2024-02-14 18:15:49 <@smooge:fedora.im> ah ok. good luck
2024-02-14 18:16:17 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11947
2024-02-14 18:16:21 <@salimma:fedora.im> I have something related for the open floorlater
2024-02-14 18:16:36 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Stephen J Smoogen: So open an EPEL issue, that works through the steps, and have it link to various releng (and other) tickets?
2024-02-14 18:17:14 <@smooge:fedora.im> that would be how my Jira trained brain would do so
2024-02-14 18:17:26 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I think it's fine opening it now, but note that releng is really busy so likely it will just be sitting there and you will need to remind when it's actually close to time to act on it. ;)
2024-02-14 18:17:47 <@smooge:fedora.im> I think Troys idea works better than my original
2024-02-14 18:18:06 <@tdawson:fedora.im> OK, if I get some time in the next week or two, I'll open the EPEL issue at least so we can work out the steps.
2024-02-14 18:19:00 <@smooge:fedora.im> my guess on 11947 is that it will be grobisplitter related
2024-02-14 18:19:21 <@smooge:fedora.im> or how the particular python module exports itself
2024-02-14 18:19:34 <@tdawson:fedora.im> any other Old Business before we move to Open Floor?
2024-02-14 18:20:24 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I wonder which will get Smooge smashed more ... the bourbon or grobisplitter
2024-02-14 18:20:29 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> I am not sure we even grobisplit centos8-stream modular repos... or that we even mirror them
2024-02-14 18:21:19 <@smooge:fedora.im> probably not.. i did originally but that got changed
2024-02-14 18:21:21 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> but I could be wrong
2024-02-14 18:21:43 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !topic General Issues / Open Floor
2024-02-14 18:22:00 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Michel Lind🎩: You said you had an open floor item.
2024-02-14 18:22:06 <@salimma:fedora.im> I did
2024-02-14 18:22:31 <@salimma:fedora.im> so ... for building for EPEL8 I normally test locally with Alma (so I don't have to deal with entitlements)
2024-02-14 18:23:35 <@salimma:fedora.im> something weird happened after their key rotation on at least two of my systems

- once distribution-gpg-keys is updated with the new key, builds are fine
- once the old key expired on Jan 12, builds break again

note: I'm disabling the new container-based buildroot so the failure happens when generating the buildroot the old fashioned way
2024-02-14 18:24:03 <@salimma:fedora.im> can anyone else repro, and if so where should I file this? Conan Kudo suspected rpm-sequoia does not like dealing with expired certs
2024-02-14 18:24:06 <@nirik:matrix.scrye.com> mock cache? does a scrub all help?
2024-02-14 18:24:14 <@salimma:fedora.im> but if the package is signed with it, we should still allow its import right
2024-02-14 18:24:27 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> rpm-sq will not allow it
2024-02-14 18:24:31 <@salimma:fedora.im> scrub all does not help. and I reproed after rebuilding my build setup to f39 so these are fresh containers
2024-02-14 18:25:11 <@salimma:fedora.im> this seems like... potentially a serious issue if someone can repro. at least the path where you don't use a pregenerated buildroot is likely broken (and the next time we pregenerate the buildroot it will fail too right?)
2024-02-14 18:25:25 <@salimma:fedora.im> surely Alma can't be asked to re-sign everything with the new keys
2024-02-14 18:25:31 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> turn on simple content access, and then you don't have to deal with entitlements/pools anymore, you just subscribe and go
2024-02-14 18:26:29 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> and if you subscribe your host system (doesn't have to be rhel), then rhel mock roots work automatically with no fuss
2024-02-14 18:27:49 <@salimma:fedora.im> I might explore that in the future (or not, once epel10 comes out I'll just build for the main epel10 which is stream ;) )
2024-02-14 18:28:00 <@salimma:fedora.im> but... we do want to fix this issue too right? seems potentially serious
2024-02-14 18:28:16 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Although using RHEL is nice, it still doesn't answer the question of expired certs stopping testing.
2024-02-14 18:28:16 <@smooge:fedora.im> I am not sure there is anything 'we' can fix here
2024-02-14 18:28:40 <@salimma:fedora.im> for context, my host machines run everything from Fedora, MicroOS, Debian, and Ubuntu so figuring out how to subscribe it everywhere seems like... too much trouble
2024-02-14 18:29:02 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Has anyone reached out to Alma to ask if they are planning on resigning their packages?
2024-02-14 18:29:06 <@salimma:fedora.im> yeah, I guess not an EPEL issue but who should look into this - the mock people, or the RPM sequoia people?
2024-02-14 18:29:16 <@salimma:fedora.im> I did flag it to Jonathan from Alma but he can't repro
2024-02-14 18:29:44 <@salimma:fedora.im> hoping someone can help repro to make sure it is not just me, and if we figure out it's impossible to fix with sequoia, then it's their choice if they want to re=sign or not, but at least they know the impact
2024-02-14 18:29:54 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> yeah it would make the most sense to me to let the alma devs work with the mock developers to resolve it
2024-02-14 18:30:01 <@smooge:fedora.im> well it needs to be reproducible aka what version of rpm, mock, and related items are on your system
2024-02-14 18:30:20 <@smooge:fedora.im> because if the issue is in rpm-sequoia then only they can fix it.
2024-02-14 18:30:31 <@smooge:fedora.im> mock and alma are going to be 'well foo'
2024-02-14 18:30:50 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> as is often the case, things get much harder without a straightforward reproducer
2024-02-14 18:31:03 <@salimma:fedora.im> F39 fully updated, but yeah I can grab the version numbers in a bit
2024-02-14 18:31:38 <@salimma:fedora.im> should I file it against mock first I guess, to at least have a place to discuss this? I can try to see if this works better after the minor RPM update that fixes that runaway lua fork thing
2024-02-14 18:31:47 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> yes
2024-02-14 18:31:51 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> please file with mock
2024-02-14 18:32:05 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> and tag jonathanspw in the ticket
2024-02-14 18:33:34 <@salimma:fedora.im> will do
2024-02-14 18:33:49 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Anything else for Open Floor?
2024-02-14 18:33:55 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I have one thing
2024-02-14 18:34:11 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> mostly to bubble up for the RHELish people here
2024-02-14 18:34:30 <@smooge:fedora.im> I am not sure we are going to rhelish this :)?
2024-02-14 18:34:54 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I discovered earlier this week that xorg-x11-server-Xwayland-devel was missing from the shipped package set, and filed an issue requesting it to be shipped
2024-02-14 18:34:56 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !link https://issues.redhat.com/browse/RHEL-25083
2024-02-14 18:35:25 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I discovered this because kwin broke in epel9-next after applying a requested fix to the build dependencies
2024-02-14 18:36:03 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> two things: please prod someone about it and can we please have a less awkward set of choices for creating issues?
2024-02-14 18:36:30 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> filing it as a user story was kind of awkward
2024-02-14 18:36:33 <@smooge:fedora.im> hahahahahahha. you ask the funniest things
2024-02-14 18:36:46 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> 😩
2024-02-14 18:37:23 <@smooge:fedora.im> as a user I need to do my $%$%#%ing job and not having @$$$%# package available is stopping me
2024-02-14 18:37:32 <@smooge:fedora.im> see easy
2024-02-14 18:37:34 <@salimma:fedora.im> ooof
2024-02-14 18:37:49 <@salimma:fedora.im> has JIRA been taken over by the BDD gang?
2024-02-14 18:37:52 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I'm trying not to spit nails when I write issues :P
2024-02-14 18:38:17 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> but yes, this is basically the gist of it 😅
2024-02-14 18:38:29 <@smooge:fedora.im> yeah probably a good idea. 
2024-02-14 18:38:47 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> JIRA was instituted by them
2024-02-14 18:38:55 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> so why file it as a story?  i think the default type is bug
2024-02-14 18:39:16 <@salimma:fedora.im> I mentioned this to Conan Kudo earlier but add this to the ELN workload to track?
2024-02-14 18:39:30 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> because it seemed wrong as a bug too
2024-02-14 18:39:46 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> ah, maybe not an actual default, but the links that were in wiki.c.o had `issuetype=1` pre-filled via query param
2024-02-14 18:39:51 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> https://wiki.centos.org/ReportBugs.html
2024-02-14 18:40:30 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> yeah I didn't do that, I just went to issues.r.c and hit create
2024-02-14 18:40:31 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> my advise would be to not overthink it, file everything as bugs and let the maintainers change the type if needed.  external folks should not have to concern themselves with issue types.
2024-02-14 18:41:11 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> behavior driven development
2024-02-14 18:41:29 <@salimma:fedora.im> my sympathies for all you RHers having to deal with JIRA as your primary issue tracker :(
2024-02-14 18:41:37 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavior-driven_development
2024-02-14 18:42:07 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> user stories come from BDD because you describe actors/personas and scenarios
2024-02-14 18:42:21 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> waterfallll weeee
2024-02-14 18:42:36 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> (I know it's not exactly)
2024-02-14 18:42:59 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> it's very popular in the ruby world, and their test infra uses a DSL that literally implements BDD story phrasing
2024-02-14 18:43:12 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> (see Gherkin)
2024-02-14 18:43:25 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> err Cucumber
2024-02-14 18:43:31 <@salimma:fedora.im> yeah, Cucumber
2024-02-14 18:43:39 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> you should hit up bstinson and ask if the "create issue" button can default to bug, i think jira should let you configured that.  it's dumb to ask external users to decide what type to file, and arguably they should never be filing stories or epics anyways.
2024-02-14 18:43:49 <@salimma:fedora.im> I hate it, especially because Ruby's syntax can be coerced into making tests look like English sentences
2024-02-14 18:43:59 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> and they're real code too!
2024-02-14 18:44:03 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> it _does things_
2024-02-14 18:44:21 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> DNF's test suite is actually written this way
2024-02-14 18:44:54 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I think it uses Behave
2024-02-14 18:45:13 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> https://github.com/rpm-software-management/ci-dnf-stack
2024-02-14 18:45:38 <@smooge:fedora.im> well I guess Ruby goes for the opposite of Perl where any paint splatter is legitimate code, and any English statement could be valid Ruby
2024-02-14 18:45:48 <@smooge:fedora.im> anyway.. I think we have wandered off from anything EPEL related
2024-02-14 18:45:59 <@smooge:fedora.im> Troy Dawson: rescue us
2024-02-14 18:46:08 <@salimma:fedora.im> funny, Ruby *is* inspired by Perl
2024-02-14 18:46:15 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> i have one awareness open floor thing
2024-02-14 18:46:16 <@salimma:fedora.im> just taken to the OO extreme
2024-02-14 18:46:28 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Carl George: Go for it
2024-02-14 18:46:32 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> very abnormal for our group, that
2024-02-14 18:46:52 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> libplacebo in epel9 is busted, likely due to the glslang rebase coming in rhel9.4 that is already in c9 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2264138
2024-02-14 18:47:06 <@zodbot:fedora.im> salimma has already given cookies to neil during the F39 timeframe
2024-02-14 18:47:13 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> smooge flagged this in the main channel from a convo in irc, and i filed the bug
2024-02-14 18:47:36 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> looks like the maintainer is looking into it, but i haven't had time to read through the replies today yet
2024-02-14 18:47:48 <@salimma:fedora.im> wait why is this already busted in epel9 then
2024-02-14 18:48:00 <@salimma:fedora.im> oh busted in next
2024-02-14 18:48:08 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> it's not in next, yet
2024-02-14 18:48:17 <@salimma:fedora.im> ah, it's ... owned by one of the rpmfusion folks
2024-02-14 18:48:27 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> the epel9 packages of mpv and libplacebo work on rhel9, but not on c9 at the moment
2024-02-14 18:48:41 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> in theory an epel9-next build of libplacebo should fix it
2024-02-14 18:48:51 <@smooge:fedora.im> actually it was flagged in IRC by someone who first asked in #centos-stream adn then when I asked in #epel:fedoraproject.org 
2024-02-14 18:49:04 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> who then poked me
2024-02-14 18:49:12 <@salimma:fedora.im> Rube Goldberg bug filing
2024-02-14 18:49:14 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> and I realized it was broken the same way it was broken in fedora a few months ago
2024-02-14 18:49:28 <@smooge:fedora.im> i would like to ask that people change the topic to say where questions should be asked in the future
2024-02-14 18:49:30 <@salimma:fedora.im> is there an epel9-next branch already?
2024-02-14 18:49:40 <@salimma:fedora.im> if so and maintainer is unresponsive we can do it ourselves
2024-02-14 18:49:43 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> not yet, I think
2024-02-14 18:49:46 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> there wasn't last night when i filed the bug
2024-02-14 18:50:01 <@salimma:fedora.im> and what's the blast radius - what else are broken by this?
2024-02-14 18:50:21 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> i think just mpv and vlc
2024-02-14 18:50:27 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I don't remember if ffmpeg still uses glslang or if it moved to shaderc
2024-02-14 18:50:50 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> but the revdeps of libplacebo should be checked
2024-02-14 18:52:12 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> uggh, libplacebo doesn't even rebuild against current rhel9, much less c9
2024-02-14 18:52:22 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> oh !hi
2024-02-14 18:52:25 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> oh god no
2024-02-14 18:52:29 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> it's FTBFS?!
2024-02-14 18:52:31 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> !hi
2024-02-14 18:52:32 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Jonathan Wright (jonathanspw)
2024-02-14 18:52:33 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Hi jonathanspw 
2024-02-14 18:52:34 <@jonathanspw:fedora.im> i've been lurking
2024-02-14 18:52:46 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> i smell an incoming incompat request to get libplacebo to a working version
2024-02-14 18:52:53 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> yeeeeah
2024-02-14 18:52:57 <@dherrera:fedora.im> (me too btw)
2024-02-14 18:53:07 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> lurking or smelling?
2024-02-14 18:53:21 <@salimma:fedora.im> does it show up on Troy Dawson 's will-it tracker?
2024-02-14 18:53:33 <@salimma:fedora.im> we should get an Outreachy intern and ask them to plumb it to bugzilla
2024-02-14 18:53:34 <@smooge:fedora.im> well it would install
2024-02-14 18:53:41 <@carlwgeorge:matrix.org> the original libplacebo built against glslang 11.5, and now it ftbfs with glslang 11.9
2024-02-14 18:53:43 <@smooge:fedora.im> I don't think Troy tracks will-it-rebuild
2024-02-14 18:53:44 <@salimma:fedora.im> ah... will-it does not do ftbfs yet?
2024-02-14 18:53:51 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> s/bugzilla/jira/g
2024-02-14 18:53:55 <@salimma:fedora.im> well, we can extend it
2024-02-14 18:53:59 <@salimma:fedora.im> ew no
2024-02-14 18:54:04 <@salimma:fedora.im> this is for EPEL remember :)
2024-02-14 18:54:06 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> please no more jira
2024-02-14 18:54:30 <@smooge:fedora.im> well until we are told that bugzilla needs to be run by nirik <someone hold him from jumping>
2024-02-14 18:54:41 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Ya, I'm not tracking FTBFS ... and it looks like it installs.
2024-02-14 18:55:01 <@smooge:fedora.im> it was a joke, it was a joke.. don't go into the light
2024-02-14 18:55:23 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> 🪦
2024-02-14 18:55:29 <@smooge:fedora.im> ok I am done derailing this meeting
2024-02-14 18:55:48 <@tdawson:fedora.im> So, our time is getting close ... not that I don't think libplacebo is important, but it can be discussed on the matrix channel.
2024-02-14 18:56:00 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Is there anything else that needs to come up before we close the meeting?
2024-02-14 18:56:02 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> yeah
2024-02-14 18:56:14 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I don't have anything
2024-02-14 18:56:27 <@salimma:fedora.im> I'll show myself out
2024-02-14 18:57:44 <@tdawson:fedora.im> Thank you all for coming and the good discussion.  And thank you all for all you do for EPEL and it's community.
2024-02-14 18:58:00 <@tdawson:fedora.im> I'll talk to ya'll next week ... same time, same place 
2024-02-14 18:58:04 <@zodbot:fedora.im> salimma has already given cookies to tdawson during the F39 timeframe
2024-02-14 18:58:08 <@zodbot:fedora.im> smooge has already given cookies to tdawson during the F39 timeframe
2024-02-14 18:58:13 <@tdawson:fedora.im> !endmeeting