18:59:48 #startmeeting F17 Release Readiness Meeting 18:59:48 Meeting started Thu May 17 18:59:48 2012 UTC. The chair is rbergeron. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:59:48 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 18:59:54 #meetingname F17 Release Readiness Meeting 18:59:54 The meeting name has been set to 'f17_release_readiness_meeting' 19:00:07 #topic Who's here? 19:00:19 * bcotton 19:00:32 * tflink is here 19:00:39 * nirik is here. 19:00:42 * jsmith is here, for a few minutes 19:00:58 #info bcotton for docs, tflink for QA, rbergeron for PM, FPL, Marketing, and being a target for tomaoes 19:01:12 #info though she should be taking a typing class instead 19:01:23 #info jsmith here for a few 19:02:02 #info Nirik here for Infra 19:02:06 sorry. i didn't mean to skip you :) 19:02:41 #info Not here thus far: release engineering (dilmore), websites (shaiton_ perhaps?) 19:02:48 #info design team (mizmo) 19:02:58 * rbergeron thinks 19:03:33 * shaiton_ is here 19:03:58 #info shaiton_ for websites (i presume) and asking me about things i have promised :) 19:04:33 ah, translations - noriko 19:04:38 Yeah! Sijis also should be around for websites 19:04:42 okay,shall we get started? 19:04:44 shaiton_: excellent 19:04:55 #topic QA readiness 19:05:07 tflink asife from unshippability - are you guys covered? 19:05:11 aside, rather 19:05:13 yeah 19:05:36 * rbergeron knows you guy swill be getting commonbugs taken care of after we deal with getting through rc2 19:05:42 good god, my typing is bad today 19:05:54 yeah, we're all good. 19:05:55 just the small problem of open blockers and somewhat incomplete test matricies 19:06:05 :) 19:06:22 #info outside of open blockers and incomplete test matrices, QA is ready! :) 19:06:33 anyone have anything for our fine folks in testing-land? 19:06:36 * mizmo here, sorry im late 19:06:40 Other than hugs and appreciation for all the ass-busting they do? :) 19:07:10 tflink, adamw: thanks for coming. go take naps or golf. :) 19:07:23 there's a difference? 19:07:27 No idea. 19:07:30 #topic Docs 19:07:32 bcotton: HAI 19:08:02 greetings 19:08:09 bcotton: how are things looking on your end for release? 19:08:37 it occurs to me that I don't think we've had anyone update the Release Announcement for GA, but otherwise we seem to be progressing well 19:08:51 bcotton: suehle and I are on it. 19:09:12 i knew i could count on the two of you. i just hope the world can handle the puns 19:09:20 oh har har. 19:09:26 Oh, we're totally going to town it down and be very serious. 19:09:32 at this rate we might have to rename puns to buns 19:09:32 tone. 19:09:33 even. 19:09:40 I like big puns, and i cannot lie 19:09:48 you other nerds can't deny 19:09:51 bcotton: i am of course joking about toning it down 19:09:57 something something anaconda! 19:10:01 when two girls walk in with a black wiki space 19:10:03 blank 19:10:06 wiki space 19:10:21 and some tags in your face 19:10:27 you get ... fun 19:10:28 well since this meeting is already down the tubes, my reaction to the "tone it down" statement http://i.imgur.com/OZDhe.gif 19:10:35 mizmo: yes, don't forget the anaconda 19:10:37 :) 19:10:43 bcotton: pfffft 19:10:56 LOL 19:10:58 okay. 19:11:01 we don't want none unless you got buns, beefy 19:11:06 dont want none if it ain't got a patch, hon! 19:11:11 exactly 19:11:25 okay. I am moving on or i am going to start crying with laughter 19:11:35 bcotton: all else looks good then? :) 19:11:50 * bcotton gives the thumbs up 19:11:53 awesome. 19:11:59 anyone have any harassment for docs folks? 19:12:04 if not, i shall moveth on. 19:12:10 #topic Websites 19:12:13 shaiton_: hi 19:12:55 yep 19:13:08 so, we still have the Cloud tab to finish 19:13:19 * shaiton_ is waiting for content from the Cloud SIG 19:13:23 … which is… 19:13:26 rbergeron: ! 19:13:35 https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-websites/ticket/83 19:14:13 next, we have only one quote on the home page it's not a problem but having more would be great 19:14:19 https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-websites/ticket/99 19:14:29 shaiton_: okay. well, now that i have a week of ... more time. maybe we can tackle that tomorrow in the cloud sig meeting 19:14:45 yep, and finally 19:14:56 one thing we might want to consider - offering 64 bit desktop by default next release - 19:15:10 we have the rbergeron interview, which is not up to date, should we include a header? 19:15:17 it came up because there may be issues with the 32 bit release and grub 19:15:21 mizmo: it is already :) 19:15:27 grub2 grapihcal mode specifically 19:15:36 oh! it's 64 bit now? fantastic! 19:15:42 https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-websites/ticket/65 19:15:43 shaiton_: re: the quote - I am trying to find one still, but i iwll follow up with someone i asked to have some help from :) 19:15:46 how long has that been the case? 19:16:06 mizmo: it's on stg, for GA. 19:16:06 rbergeron, you got some time this afternoon and i can reinterview you? hehe 19:16:20 suehle: can you buzz at jbrooks and joe and see if they ever found anything by chance, and then we can stick a quote in the ticket? 19:16:21 :) 19:16:27 shaiton_, would that be okay or will the translators be annoyed by me? ^^ 19:16:37 ohh 19:16:37 mizmo: HA HA HA HAHA HAHAA well I probably do now 19:16:46 rbergeron: mizmo : http://fedoraproject.org/fr/using/life/robynbergeron.html ;) 19:16:46 rbergeron, suehle - there were some nice one-liners in the H article on FEdora's history 19:17:01 mizmo: that's ok for me :) 19:17:10 sijis: you back :) 19:17:13 suehle: because i asked and they seemed like they ewre looking at it and hten i think a squirrel came along 19:17:19 I think we've finished for websites 19:17:31 mizmo: actually, every single bare metal box i've tested themed grub2 on has been slow as molasses. 19:17:36 mizmo: it only seems to be _not_ slow on VMs. 19:17:43 which is odd. but hey. 19:17:47 adamw, really? i used a dell laptop to build it, no issues 19:17:54 shaiton_: ya, sorry. had to step out and fix something for $dayjob 19:17:56 :-/ 19:17:57 all in the rbergeron hands. 19:17:59 huh. oh well. maybe it's resolution? my desktop is 1920x1080. 19:18:00 sorry... found what? interviewing bill 19:18:02 shaiton_: okay. thank you :) I will get with cloud folks tomorrow, but I think it's going to be "go to amazon and type in these specific AMIs" or something to that effect. 19:18:08 suehle: never mind. interview bill 19:18:14 i forgot what time it was 19:18:15 :) 19:18:25 i will harass them later 19:18:34 ok :) 19:18:37 rbergeron, http://www.h-online.com/open/features/HealthCheck-Fedora-Where-s-the-beef-1520194.html <= thats the one with the quotes 19:18:37 rbergeron: I've seen some cloud design, you should give one to us 19:19:09 shaiton_: I am not sure if that got finalized offhand or not, mizmo might know. 19:19:17 "Fedora is uncompromisingly free software, community-based, and innovative, and its role is to push the edges of technology and reflect the state of the art of free software. " 19:19:20 i did respond in the ticket but i can't rmember if something came back 19:19:27 oh the graphic? yeh 19:19:27 lemme see 19:19:46 rbergeron, is this for the logo or the big graphic vanessa did? 19:19:47 shaiton_: I think we can take most of this outside of this meeting though now, yes? 19:19:53 logo, i assume 19:19:58 yes 19:20:02 * rbergeron looks at shaiton_ , is that what you mean? 19:20:03 yes 19:20:26 * shaiton_ will send the action to mizmo 19:20:50 #action rbergeron to follow up with content for websites ticket #99, #83 (cloud page, interview to work with mizmo on) 19:21:27 shaiton_: okay, thanks. 19:21:44 #topic Design team 19:21:48 mizmo: Hi! 19:21:50 yo 19:21:53 yo. 19:21:58 what's the word, hummingbird? 19:22:07 what's the story, morning glory? 19:22:17 so there is some grub2 artwork 'situation', we may or may not have grub2 artwork at all 19:22:17 everything looking miraculous? 19:22:27 mizmo: is that a filed bug? 19:22:47 it's not going to be in by default but it may ship as an opt-in thing although maybe graphical mode will be disabled entirely :( 19:22:56 other than that 19:23:16 yeh adamw has been working with the anaconda dudes on it in #anaconda 19:23:18 okay 19:23:26 i think there is at least one bug 19:23:48 okay, i just iddn't recall it from blocker or NTH land 19:23:53 themed grub2 seems to be really slow on a wide range of hardware 19:23:56 and since we are spinning an RC2 19:23:56 the artwork for the wwwfpo banners is almost done, just gotta drop the wallpaper and a screenshot in, the rest is done like a bun 19:24:06 alexander got all the media artwork designs done, they are off to the printers in emea 19:24:13 #info Oh, by the way, we are slipping a week due to some unresolved blockers. GA now May 29 19:24:14 and we've found at least two or three cases where unthemed graphical grub2 picks a wrong video mode and is impossible to see 19:24:18 I guess that's probably something useful to know. 19:24:26 i still have to sync up with nb on the north american ones 19:24:30 so, i'll probably knock heads with pjones and figure out an approach. 19:24:30 mizmo: oh, nb hasn't... yeah, that. 19:24:46 im planning to do a blog post today on the media artwork changes 19:24:47 I think nb may be out of town for the weekend as it is. 19:25:07 rbergeron: the bug for graphical grub is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=822123, just for your records. 19:25:17 alexander also did an absolutely *gorgeous* f17 release poster that was posted to the ambassadors list 19:25:21 adamw: thanks 19:25:27 so i think we are good, just finalizing some www.fpo stuff 19:25:39 mizmo: excellent. thank you 19:25:46 if anybody needs something form the design team let me know 19:25:57 i am going to be on pto next week 19:26:16 but if there is some emergency i will be reachable 19:26:25 #topic Engineering, Release Engineering, FESCo, Infrastructure 19:26:29 nirik: hey there. 19:26:32 mizmo: thanks. 19:26:34 enjoy that PTO. 19:26:37 hey 19:26:52 nirik: I am having you fill in for multiple people since others aren't here. :) 19:26:55 how are things? 19:27:12 I think we are all go from what I can see for fesco and infrastructure. 19:27:23 rel-eng we need another rc clearly... 19:27:27 * rbergeron nods 19:28:02 okay. 19:28:02 but otherwise good to push out bits into our eager consumers. ;) 19:28:07 right :) 19:28:32 Okay. Thanks :) 19:28:36 #topic Marketing 19:28:43 rbergeron: hey! 19:28:44 Oh, hey, me. 19:29:12 So the short version is: suehle and rbergeron are tackling the release announcement stuff 19:29:26 along with some other magic (the press release) 19:29:38 of course if anyone wants to join in on the announement you're more than welcome. 19:29:46 other than that: not much other news. 19:30:20 Anyone have anything to harass marketing about? :) 19:31:01 #topic Any other groups I missed? 19:32:04 going once, going twice.... 19:32:08 any questions for each other..... 19:33:01 going once, going twice.... 19:33:09 okay, everyone, thanks for coming. :) 19:33:29 GA is now, as i said, on the 29th, so we have a bit of buffer space. 19:33:31 Thanks! 19:33:35 #endmeeting