#fedora-qa: f18beta-blocker-review-3

Meeting started by tflink at 16:05:24 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. Roll Call (tflink, 16:05:28)
  2. Introduction (tflink, 16:12:11)
    1. Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (tflink, 16:12:20)
    2. We'll be following the process outlined at: (tflink, 16:12:28)
    3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (tflink, 16:12:28)
    4. The bugs up for review today are available at: (tflink, 16:12:35)
    5. http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (tflink, 16:12:35)
    6. The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (tflink, 16:12:43)
    7. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Alpha_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:12:43)
    8. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Beta_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:12:43)
    9. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Final_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:12:43)
    10. 28 Proposed Blockers (tflink, 16:13:29)
    11. 10 Accepted Blockers (tflink, 16:13:29)
    12. 5 Proposed NTH (tflink, 16:13:29)
    13. 8 Accepted NTH (tflink, 16:13:29)
    14. This meeting will be stopped at 3 hours - any remaining blocker bugs to review will be done tomorrow at a second gathering of reviewers (tflink, 16:16:11)

  3. (847831) kickstart boot fails with %include file generated by %pre (tflink, 16:17:30)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=847831 (tflink, 16:17:30)
    2. Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED (tflink, 16:17:30)
    3. AGREED: 847831 - This still needs more testing, will revisit when there is more understanding of what parts of kickstart are affected here (tflink, 16:31:57)

  4. (856362) KeyError: 'la-latin1' (tflink, 16:32:03)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856362 (tflink, 16:32:03)
    2. Proposed Blocker, POST (tflink, 16:32:03)
    3. AGREED: 856362 - This is an upgrade issue and we still can't confirm whether or not the new tools is affected by it. Will revisit after we have a testable upgrade tool (tflink, 16:35:04)

  5. (862006) NameError: global name 'size_func_kwargs' is not defined (tflink, 16:43:04)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862006 (tflink, 16:43:04)
    2. Proposed Blocker, POST (tflink, 16:43:04)
    3. ACTION: adamw to discuss with anaconda team whether LVM ought to be release blocking and make a proposal to the list (re 862006) (adamw, 16:48:58)
    4. discussion on LVM related criteria will be continued outside the meeting (tflink, 17:00:14)
    5. AGREED: 862006 - we agreed in principle that the criteria should be adjusted to require creation of all offered filesystem types to work at beta, therefore as LVM is offered, this bug is accepted as a blocker (adamw, 17:04:41)
    6. ACTION: propose revision to partitioning criterion such that all partition types offered in the UI should work (tflink, 17:05:09)

  6. (862801) Anaconda hangs when 'Configuring installed system' (tflink, 17:05:53)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862801 (tflink, 17:05:54)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:05:54)
    3. AGREED: 862801 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha release criterion: "The installer must be able to complete an installation using the text, graphical and VNC installation interfaces" (tflink, 17:08:11)

  7. (860430) RFE: dual boot support in newui (tflink, 17:08:22)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860430 (tflink, 17:08:22)
    2. Proposed Blocker, ON_QA (tflink, 17:08:23)
    3. AGREED: 860430 - RejectedBlocker (Beta), AcceptedNTH (beta), AcceptedBlocker (final) - While this does not clearly violate any F18 alpha or beta release criteria, it does hit the dual-boot release criterion for F18 final and a tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 17:28:36)

  8. (858591) anaconda setting invalid system locale xx.UTF-8 not xx_YY.UTF-8 (tflink, 17:28:48)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=858591 (tflink, 17:28:51)
    2. Proposed Blocker, VERIFIED (tflink, 17:28:54)
    3. AGREED: 858591 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha release criterion for a non-insignificant number of locales: "In most cases, a system installed according to any of the above criteria must boot to the 'firstboot' utility on the first boot after installation, without unintended user intervention, unless the user explicitly chooses to boot in non-graphical mode. The firstboot utility must be able to create a working user account" (tflink, 17:34:24)

  9. (862784) error: rpmdb open failed (tflink, 17:34:47)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862784 (tflink, 17:34:47)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:34:47)
    3. ACTION: adamw propose partitioning criterion rewording such that partitions other than /home are not required to be re-usable at beta (adamw, 17:40:05)
    4. AGREED: 862784 - While this does potentially violate F18 beta release criteria, that was not the spirit in which they were written. Will revisit after discussion on test@ regarding rewording the partitioning release criteria. (tflink, 17:44:21)

  10. (855560) F18 Live Alpha : nVidia GeForce 8600M GT, graphic driver (nouveau): very poor performance (vesa is fluid) (tflink, 17:44:41)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=855560 (tflink, 17:44:44)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:44:46)
    3. AGREED: 855560 - RejectedBlocker - There seem to be no new reporters and the existing reporters aren't retesting. Therefore, we conclude that this isn't a big enough problem to accept as a blocker for F18 beta. (tflink, 17:48:41)

  11. (745202) gnome-shell does not display correctly with NV3x adapters - multicolor corruption of panel, Shell-style menus and text [nvfx] (tflink, 17:48:50)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=745202 (tflink, 17:48:53)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:48:56)
    3. AGREED: 745202 - RejectedBlocker - Affected systems still boot into fallback mode and the HW blacklist seems to still be appropriate with current versions of mesa 9.x. Since fallback mode still functions, this is rejected as a blocker for F18 beta (tflink, 17:55:14)

  12. (864204) AttributeError: 'YumConf' object has no attribute '_repos_persistdir' (tflink, 17:57:24)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=864204 (tflink, 17:57:27)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:57:30)
    3. AGREED: 864204 - There is not enough information on the image used or exactly what went wrong here. Ask for more information from the reporter - if there is nothing new @ the next review meeting, this will be rejected as a blocker. (tflink, 18:03:09)

  13. (862971) ValueError: Cannot remove extended partition sda4. Logical partitions present. (tflink, 18:03:22)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=862971 (tflink, 18:03:25)
    2. Proposed Blocker, ON_QA (tflink, 18:03:28)
    3. AGREED: 862971 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 beta release criterion for systems using extended partitions: "The installer's custom partitioning mode must be capable of the following: ... Creating, destroying and assigning mount points to partitions of any specified size using most commonly-used filesystem types" (tflink, 18:05:58)

  14. (863451) AttributeError: 'DeviceFormat' object has no attribute 'peStart' (tflink, 18:06:04)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=863451 (tflink, 18:06:07)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:06:09)
    3. AGREED: 863451 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 beta release criteria for the removal of LVM partitions: "The installer's custom partitioning mode must be capable of the following: ... Creating, destroying and assigning mount points to partitions of any specified size using most commonly-used filesystem types" (tflink, 18:16:25)

  15. (863582) KeyError: 'payload' (tflink, 18:16:33)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=863582 (tflink, 18:16:33)
    2. Proposed Blocker, ON_QA (tflink, 18:16:34)
    3. AGREED: 863582 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha release criterion: "The installer must be able to complete an installation using automatic partitioning to any sufficiently large target disk, whether unformatted, empty, or containing any kind of existing data" (tflink, 18:19:32)

  16. (853508) nfsiso source for stage2 does not work (tflink, 18:19:44)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=853508 (tflink, 18:19:44)
    2. Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED (tflink, 18:19:44)
    3. ACTION: kparal to propose changing the NFS remote package source criterion to require _either_ nfs or nfsiso to work @ beta (tflink, 18:34:37)
    4. AGREED: - The nfs package source criterion should be modified such that _either_ nfs or nfsiso should work @ beta (tflink, 18:36:32)
    5. AGREED: 853508 - RejectedBlocker (Beta) - Due to the accepted criterion change above (xx:36) and the fact that nfs does function as a remote package source, this is rejected as a blocker for F18 beta (tflink, 18:39:13)

  17. (863348) ValueError: Cannot remove non-leaf device 'vda2' (tflink, 18:39:29)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=863348 (tflink, 18:39:29)
    2. Proposed Blocker, POST (tflink, 18:39:29)
    3. AGREED: 863348 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha release criterion: "The installer must be able to complete an installation using automatic partitioning to any sufficiently large target disk, whether unformatted, empty, or containing any kind of existing data" (tflink, 18:43:09)

  18. (864771) KeyError: PartitionDevice instance (0x7f0f28b016d0) (tflink, 18:43:15)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=864771 (tflink, 18:43:15)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:43:15)
    3. AGREED: 864771 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 beta release criterion: "The installer's custom partitioning mode must be capable of the following: Creating, destroying and assigning mount points to partitions of any specified size using most commonly-used filesystem types ... Rejecting obviously invalid operations without crashing" (tflink, 18:47:51)

  19. (863886) anaconda does not install firstboot (tflink, 18:49:09)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=863886 (tflink, 18:49:09)
    2. Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:49:09)
    3. AGREED: 863886 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha release criterion: "In most cases, a system installed according to any of the above criteria must boot to the 'firstboot' utility on the first boot after installation, without unintended user intervention, unless the user explicitly chooses to boot in non-graphical mode." (tflink, 18:51:55)

  20. (864058) anaconda main menu not visible in F18 Beta TC2 KDE Live (tflink, 18:55:15)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=864058 (tflink, 18:55:15)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:55:16)
    3. AGREED: 864058 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha release criterion for the KDE spin: "The installer must boot (if appropriate) and run on all primary architectures, with all system firmware types that are common on those architectures, from default live image, DVD, and boot.iso install media when written to an optical disc and when written to a USB stick with at least one of the officially supported methods" (tflink, 19:01:16)

  21. Open Floor (tflink, 19:02:07)
    1. stopping at the 3 hour mark, will continue on 2012-10-11 @ 16:00 UTC with the remainder of the bugs not covered today (tflink, 19:02:47)


Meeting ended at 19:07:42 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. adamw to discuss with anaconda team whether LVM ought to be release blocking and make a proposal to the list (re 862006)
  2. propose revision to partitioning criterion such that all partition types offered in the UI should work
  3. adamw propose partitioning criterion rewording such that partitions other than /home are not required to be re-usable at beta
  4. kparal to propose changing the NFS remote package source criterion to require _either_ nfs or nfsiso to work @ beta


Action items, by person

  1. adamw
    1. adamw to discuss with anaconda team whether LVM ought to be release blocking and make a proposal to the list (re 862006)
    2. adamw propose partitioning criterion rewording such that partitions other than /home are not required to be re-usable at beta
  2. kparal
    1. kparal to propose changing the NFS remote package source criterion to require _either_ nfs or nfsiso to work @ beta


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  2. adamw (198)
  3. kparal (155)
  4. Viking-Ice (91)
  5. cmurf (82)
  6. jreznik (34)
  7. akshayvyas (23)
  8. zodbot (15)
  9. jlk (9)
  10. pschindl (6)
  11. digimer (4)
  12. Martix (1)
  13. nanonyme (1)
  14. satellit_e (1)


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