============================================= #fedora-bugzappers: f18final-blocker-review-4 ============================================= Meeting started by tflink at 17:01:30 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-12-12/f18final-blocker-review-4.2012-12-12-17.01.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (tflink, 17:01:30) * Introduction (tflink, 17:13:22) * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (tflink, 17:13:27) * We'll be following the process outlined at: (tflink, 17:13:33) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (tflink, 17:13:33) * The bugs up for review today are available at: (tflink, 17:13:39) * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (tflink, 17:13:39) * note that due to the length of the current blocker list, we'll be working off the bugs marked for discussion at: (tflink, 17:14:05) * LINK: http://tflink.fedorapeople.org/blockerbugs/sorted/sortedBlockers.html (tflink, 17:14:20) * The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (tflink, 17:14:32) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Alpha_Release_Criteria (tflink, 17:14:32) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Beta_Release_Criteria (tflink, 17:14:32) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Final_Release_Criteria (tflink, 17:14:32) * 24 Proposed Blockers (tflink, 17:15:43) * 21 Accepted Blockers (tflink, 17:15:43) * 35 Proposed NTH (tflink, 17:15:43) * 6 Accepted NTH (tflink, 17:15:43) * 12 proposed blockers ready for discussion (tflink, 17:15:58) * (885284) grub is not installed in an all defaults autopart installation, system not bootable (tflink, 17:17:05) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885284 (tflink, 17:17:08) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:17:11) * AGREED: 885284 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha release criterion: "In most cases, a system installed according to any of the above criteria must boot to the 'firstboot' utility on the first boot after installation, without unintended user intervention, unless the user explicitly chooses to boot in non-graphical mode..." (tflink, 17:22:50) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=879046 (tflink, 17:23:00) * Proposed Blocker, mactel-boot, ASSIGNED (tflink, 17:23:02) * AGREED: 885284 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha release criterion for Apple hardware: "In most cases, a system installed according to any of the above criteria must boot to the 'firstboot' utility on the first boot after installation, without unintended user intervention, unless the user explicitly chooses to boot in non-graphical mode...". (tflink, 17:37:47) * (866887) Anaconda defaults keyboard layout to US for all languages (tflink, 17:37:55) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=866887 (tflink, 17:37:58) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:38:01) * AGREED: 866887 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - While this doesn't directly violate any of the F18 release criteria, it is a non-obvious annoyance for users of non-US keyboards. A tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 17:43:46) * (886061) core fedora repository error must be fatal, otherwise the upgraded system might be broken heavily (tflink, 17:44:45) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=886061 (tflink, 17:44:48) * Proposed Blocker, fedup, NEW (tflink, 17:44:51) * AGREED: 886061 - This sounds like a blocker but we'd like to get more developer input before making a decision on blocker status (tflink, 17:58:23) * (886319) ImportError: No module named lib.space (tflink, 17:58:34) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=886319 (tflink, 17:58:34) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 17:58:34) * AGREED: 886319 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 alpha release criterion: "The installer must boot (if appropriate) and run on all primary architectures, with all system firmware types that are common on those architectures, from default live image, DVD, and boot.iso install media when written to an optical disc and when written to a USB stick with at least one of the officially supported methods" (tflink, 18:02:28) * (886199) mokutil calculates incorrect signature size (tflink, 18:02:43) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=886199 (tflink, 18:02:43) * Proposed Blocker, shim, NEW (tflink, 18:02:43) * AGREED: 886199 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - This doesn't viiolate any F18 release criteria but would be better to pull in before release in case secureboot is affected. A tested fix would be considered after freeze. (tflink, 18:13:10) * (885912) Final-TC1 Auto Partition will not produce working Dual Boot (tflink, 18:13:17) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885912 (tflink, 18:13:20) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 18:13:23) * ACTION: adamw to poke windows multiboot (885912), see if he can reproduce and identify the trigger (adamw, 18:26:00) * AGREED: 885912 - It isn't completely clear what is causing this issue and depending on the details, this may or may not be a blocker. Will revisit when more information is available. (tflink, 18:26:49) * (853636) poor checking of storage config against software set space needs (tflink, 18:27:01) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=853636 (tflink, 18:27:04) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:27:06) * AGREED: 853636 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 beta release criterion for partitions too small for installation: "The installer's custom partitioning mode must be capable of the following ... Rejecting obviously invalid operations without crashing" (tflink, 18:33:51) * (869978) %packages --default doesn't install default system, but minimal one (tflink, 18:36:13) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=869978 (tflink, 18:36:16) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:36:18) * AGREED: 869978 - AcceptedBlocker - While there is no specific criterion for kickstart directives for F18, they are being decided on a case-by-case basis - this bug was determined to be common/serious enough to justify release blocking status. (tflink, 18:42:47) * (885853) systemd-upgrade.target is copied to the upgraded system, rendering it unbootable (tflink, 18:42:54) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885853 (tflink, 18:42:57) * Proposed Blocker, fedup-dracut, NEW (tflink, 18:43:01) * AGREED: 885853 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't seem likely to impact many real world systems and it is workaround-able in the worst case. Not severe enough to justify release blocking status but it should at least be documented as a commonbug (tflink, 18:50:40) * (884833) exiting from advanced user creation program in firstboot breaks firstboot (tflink, 18:50:59) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=884833 (tflink, 18:51:02) * Proposed Blocker, firstboot, NEW (tflink, 18:51:05) * AGREED: 884833 - RejectedBlocker - This behavior existed in F17 and wasn't a huge problem. It seems like too much of a corner case to block release over for F18 final. NTH status would be considered depending on the size/impact of the fix. (tflink, 19:34:52) * (854904) Quitting Anaconda in LiveCD reboots machine (tflink, 19:36:13) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=854904 (tflink, 19:36:13) * Proposed NTH, anaconda, MODIFIED (tflink, 19:36:13) * AGREED: 854904 - AcceptedNTH - This is an annoyance that would be nice to fix but can't be fixed with an update. A tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 19:39:45) * (854722) autologin doesn't work in GDM (tflink, 19:39:50) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=854722 (tflink, 19:39:50) * Proposed NTH, gdm, MODIFIED (tflink, 19:39:50) * AGREED: 854722 - AcceptedNTH - autologin on live images is the intended behavior and can't be fixed with an update post-release. A tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 19:43:25) * Open Floor (tflink, 19:44:26) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856456 (adamw, 19:46:50) * (856456) Anaconda no longer has option to set hostname in UI (tflink, 19:49:23) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=856456 (tflink, 19:49:23) * Proposed NTH, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 19:49:23) * AGREED: 856456 - AcceptedNTH - This is a change in functionality from F17 that many users expect and can't be fixed with an update post-release. A tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 19:53:05) * Open Floor (part 2) (tflink, 19:53:29) * There will be an NTH review meeting at some point in the next week, time TBD (tflink, 20:11:31) * ACTION: tflink to comment on all proposed NTH, asking for dev input on whether or not a fix is even practical for F18 final (tflink, 20:12:51) Meeting ended at 20:14:15 UTC. Action Items ------------ * adamw to poke windows multiboot (885912), see if he can reproduce and identify the trigger * tflink to comment on all proposed NTH, asking for dev input on whether or not a fix is even practical for F18 final Action Items, by person ----------------------- * adamw * adamw to poke windows multiboot (885912), see if he can reproduce and identify the trigger * tflink * tflink to comment on all proposed NTH, asking for dev input on whether or not a fix is even practical for F18 final * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * tflink (280) * adamw (241) * kparal (190) * Viking-Ice (99) * jreznik (36) * buggbot (19) * pjones (7) * zodbot (7) * nirik (2) * satellit (2) * jwb (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot