15:59:10 <roshi> #startmeeting F21-blocker-review
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15:59:11 <roshi> #meetingname F21-blocker-review
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15:59:12 <roshi> #topic Roll Call
15:59:45 <roshi> so who's here?
15:59:58 * FranciscoD sits in a corner and listens
16:00:59 * adamw hides
16:01:14 <roshi> well this is a small group then...
16:01:19 <adamw> sorry, roshi, but the adamw you're looking for is in another castle
16:01:50 <roshi> wait, we have a castle?
16:01:55 <roshi> ...and more than one?
16:03:14 <adamw> yes. i thought you realized the large budget marked 'automated testing hardware' was being spent on castles. is there a problem?
16:03:47 <adamw> welcome satellit
16:03:56 <satellit> : )
16:04:13 <roshi> ah - it all clicked now
16:04:24 <roshi> and makes sense - castles are easy to cool I hear
16:04:43 <roshi> well, we've got quorum, so let's get started :)
16:05:09 <roshi> first proposed blocker
16:05:10 <roshi> #topic (1123845) Server presets not applied in systemd scriptlets
16:05:11 <roshi> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1123845
16:05:12 <roshi> #info Proposed Blocker, fedora-release, NEW
16:05:12 * mkrizek joins
16:05:21 <roshi> welcome mkrizek :)
16:07:27 <roshi> #chair mkrizek FranciscoD satellit adamw
16:07:27 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD adamw mkrizek roshi satellit
16:08:27 * pschindl is here (his train had 1 hour delay)
16:08:44 <roshi> no worries :)
16:09:02 <roshi> we're currentlu looking at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1123845
16:09:39 * adamw tries to remember the server criteria
16:10:09 <roshi> Cockpit kinda fits - since it's required to be configured and working unless told otherwise
16:10:23 <adamw> it depends what the presets do, yeah
16:10:26 * adamw was just looking
16:10:40 <adamw> oh, yeah, cockpit enablement
16:10:41 <roshi> but that's kinda orthogonal IMO
16:10:53 <adamw> so, +1, this results in cockpit not being enabled.
16:10:56 <roshi> since it strikes me as this is an issue with more than just cockpit
16:11:14 <adamw> sure, but the criteria are functional, and this bug breaks one the functions they cover: cockpit being enabled.
16:11:27 <roshi> oh yeah - it's a blocker on that for sure
16:11:39 <roshi> was just looking to see if there was a better fit somewhere in the criteria
16:11:43 <roshi> doesn't look like it
16:11:47 <roshi> +1
16:11:56 <pschindl> +1
16:12:22 <mkrizek> +1
16:13:00 * lsm5 is lurking
16:13:03 <adamw> roshi: my philosophical approach to the criteria is that they cover the actual practical functions that need to work, not anything underlying those - underlying bugs are blockers insofar as their consequences violate the criteria
16:13:10 <adamw> anyhoo.
16:13:24 <adamw> oh, i'll secretaryize unless anyone else wants the Secretary Hat
16:13:41 <roshi> proposed #agreed - 1123845 - AcceptedBlocker - This bug results in a violation of the Alpha Cockpit management interface criteria: "Unless explicitly specified otherwise, after system installation the Cockpit web management interface must be running and accessible on its default port"
16:13:54 <pschindl> ack
16:13:54 <roshi> that makes sense to me adamw :)
16:14:43 <adamw> ack
16:14:54 <mkrizek> ack
16:14:56 <roshi> #agreed - 1123845 - AcceptedBlocker - This bug results in a violation of the Alpha Cockpit management interface criteria: "Unless explicitly specified otherwise, after system installation the Cockpit web management interface must be running and accessible on its default port"
16:15:25 <roshi> should probably note that they should put the criteria they think on the bug when proposing it as a blocker
16:15:33 <roshi> but that's minutia I guess
16:15:44 <roshi> #topic (1121301) Extensive mislabelling of /usr and/or /var on some Fedora 21 / Rawhide live images prevents them booting unless enforcing=0 is passed
16:15:47 <roshi> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1121301
16:15:50 <roshi> #info Proposed Blocker, selinux-policy-targeted, ASSIGNED
16:17:11 <adamw> roshi: nah, it's not minutiae, it's really annoying when they don't
16:17:13 <adamw> i will yell
16:17:13 <adamw> :P
16:17:18 <roshi> lol
16:17:43 <roshi> it just decreases the likelyhood of acceptance - since we might not see what they were getting at
16:18:01 <roshi> so maybe that's a good thing == less blockers == faster releases :p
16:18:02 * satellit_e not seen in VB with boot.iso or lives in 21.48.1-1 lately
16:18:49 <kparal> oops, sorry, I'm late
16:19:13 <roshi> no worries kparal :)
16:19:30 <roshi> I tried to ping you but you weren't connected at the time
16:19:55 <kparal> yeah, completely forgot
16:20:21 <roshi> well, we have something like 30 more to go through
16:20:27 <roshi> so you're still in time :)
16:20:52 * roshi jokes (this is the last proposed # 1121301)
16:21:20 <adamw> this one is a bit weird, yeah
16:21:31 <adamw> it's bad when it happens but it hasn't happened lately, but i couldn't swear it's fixed
16:21:37 <adamw> we got a 21 nightly workstation compose today apparently, i'll check that
16:22:10 <roshi> so it's quantum fixed?
16:22:23 * satellit_e testing it in VB atm...
16:24:13 <adamw> it's in hiding, yeah
16:24:26 <adamw> satellit: can you run the 'restorecon' checks?
16:25:08 * roshi needs to download it
16:25:08 <satellit> I need to know what to do there   It is Installing software in VB atm
16:27:32 * satellit_e ok see it https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1121301#c24
16:27:44 <adamw> satellit: you just run 'restorecon -nvr /usr' and 'restorecon -nvr /etc' from a console when booted live and see what they say
16:27:50 <adamw> er, and /var
16:27:55 * adamw downloading
16:28:29 <roshi> same here
16:29:07 <roshi> we still have 2.5 hours for this meeting - so plenty of time to download and test :p
16:30:09 <adamw> haha
16:30:20 <adamw> obviously we don't have the usual flood of bugs because we have no TC
16:30:31 <adamw> though we should probably be running the installation validation tests on nightlies
16:30:38 <roshi> it's the calm before the storm
16:30:44 <adamw> i'm sure we could spot some issues already
16:30:48 <roshi> any news on when a TC will be available?
16:30:51 <roshi> true
16:30:53 <adamw> in fact, everyone go do that after the meeting :P
16:30:57 <adamw> dgilmore's working on it atm
16:31:03 <roshi> I'll do that after the meeting
16:31:07 <adamw> i'm splitting my attention on discussing filename policy with him...
16:31:08 <satellit> off topic: custom std partitioning seems to fail for me
16:31:56 <dgilmore> adamw: nightlies are failing :(
16:32:07 <dgilmore> last night we got arm but that was it
16:32:14 <adamw> i got one some day last week
16:32:18 <dgilmore> due to caching issues with squid on kojipkgs
16:32:18 <adamw> it didn't *work*, but i got it
16:32:21 <adamw> ah :/
16:32:33 <adamw> we can run install tests from live nightlies, though'
16:32:36 <adamw> we have the one from last night
16:32:50 <dgilmore> i think its caching the unsigned copies then when we get the signed it things its the same, then yum biteches
16:32:58 * adamw tests the selinux issue
16:33:07 <satellit_e> testing http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=7214286
16:33:43 <roshi> that's what I'm downloading atm
16:34:59 <adamw> don't worry, i just did it
16:35:01 <adamw> no selinux issues
16:35:21 <roshi> well, i'll still do installation tests with it
16:35:27 <roshi> so it's fixed?
16:35:31 <adamw> so...maybe we can hope this was an selinux-policy issue that somehow got fixed and close it for now. (or it's a consequence of the filesystem mounting issue as kalev proposed, and hence it should be a dupe of that, which we haven't filed yet)
16:35:39 <adamw> i'd say let's close it for now and re-open it if the problem pops up again
16:35:51 <adamw> i really need to file the filesystem mount thing
16:35:53 <roshi> +1 to that
16:35:59 <roshi> well, both
16:36:58 <roshi> any other +1's to that?
16:37:50 <pschindl> +1 from me to close it
16:38:14 <satellit> seems fixed here in latest tests in VB
16:38:27 <kparal> +1
16:38:55 <roshi> proposed #agreed - 1121301 - This seems to be fixed. Closing.
16:39:02 <pschindl> ack
16:39:03 <roshi> I mean, it would be a blocker
16:39:17 <roshi> but I don't know that it adds anything to accept it then close it
16:39:27 <kparal> ack
16:39:30 <roshi> but we can do that if it makes sense to someone else to do that
16:39:42 <adamw> hey sgallagh
16:39:47 <sgallagh> Hello
16:39:49 <adamw> roshi: nope, no need
16:41:21 <roshi> onto accepted review then?
16:41:43 <roshi> #topic (1109603) dracut unable to boot 3.16 most of the time
16:41:43 <roshi> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1109603
16:41:44 <roshi> #info Accepted Blocker, cloud-initramfs-tools, NEW
16:43:02 <adamw> sure
16:43:08 <roshi> doesn't look like any movement on this in a while
16:43:17 <adamw> yup, same as last week
16:43:23 <adamw> we keep hearing reassuring noises, and the bug stays open
16:43:27 <roshi> yeah
16:43:35 <roshi> lol - "reassuring noises"
16:45:11 * jsmith doesn't trust those types of noises
16:45:21 <roshi> so is now a time to assign someone to track down and document any progress?
16:45:35 <jsmith> Sounds like it to me...
16:45:49 <roshi> to me, the word "noise" doesn't have any positive connotation with it
16:46:55 <sgallagh> roshi: Applause at a rock concert? "Make some noise!"
16:47:19 <roshi> ah - hadn't thought of that case
16:47:23 <adamw> s/someone/someone who's not me/
16:47:38 <roshi> jsmith? You want to take it?
16:47:47 <adamw> jsmith: see, this is what you get for showing up
16:47:49 <jsmith> No, not really
16:47:56 <roshi> we should just assign the people who didn't make it to the meeting :p
16:48:01 <jsmith> adamw: I think I'll excuse myself now then...
16:48:08 <jsmith> (No good deed goes unpunished)
16:48:28 <jsmith> adamw: To be brutally honest, I needed something to distract me from a "training meeting" webinar at work
16:48:40 <roshi> dracut isn't my strong suit - but I suppose it's something I should be better at
16:48:48 <roshi> so I can track some people down and ask them
16:48:55 * roshi takes it
16:49:22 <adamw> thanks roshi
16:50:00 <roshi> #topic (1110764) Fedora Server: Cockpit installed and socket enabled by default
16:50:03 <roshi> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1110764
16:50:06 <roshi> #info Accepted Blocker, cockpit, MODIFIED
16:51:57 <roshi> this will likely get covered by that other bug
16:52:08 <roshi> so I count that as positive movement
16:52:12 <adamw> this one per se is probably fixed already
16:52:24 <adamw> assuming the fix mentioned in c#4 actually works
16:53:12 <roshi> true
16:53:21 <sgallagh> That's individually testable now
16:53:35 * adamw adds a note to re-test
16:53:42 <sgallagh> Installing cockpit and running 'systemctl preset' should be enough
16:53:48 <roshi> tl;dr - nothing for us to do on it atm, right?
16:53:58 <sgallagh> s/Installing cockpit/Installing updated cockpit/
16:53:59 <roshi> for this meeting anyways
16:54:32 <adamw> right
16:54:35 <adamw> i've added a note
16:54:37 <roshi> #topic (1122128) Regression: GVariant encoding of array of doubles
16:54:40 <roshi> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1122128
16:54:43 <roshi> #info Accepted Blocker, glib2, MODIFIED
16:56:07 <roshi> anything on this one adamw ?
16:57:08 <roshi> looks like it was fixed in c#15
16:58:23 <adamw> sorry, just reading
16:58:50 <roshi> bah - reading
16:59:15 <roshi> my teachers lied to me - another thing they swore I'd use every day of my life :p
16:59:22 <roshi> like cursive
16:59:56 <roshi> looks like this is good to go - just needs verified and closed methinks
17:00:41 <roshi> anyone feel otherwise?
17:01:17 <adamw> yeah, same as last one
17:01:21 <adamw> i'll add a similar note
17:01:27 <roshi> sgtm
17:01:56 <roshi> probably going to start losing people with fesco starting
17:02:15 * sgallagh will hang around both
17:02:19 <roshi> next one then?
17:02:56 <adamw> sure
17:03:28 <roshi> #topic (1088933) update grubby to support device tree options for arm
17:03:31 <roshi> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1088933
17:03:34 <roshi> #info Accepted Blocker, grubby, POST
17:04:55 <roshi> nothing since the 16th
17:05:10 * roshi hasn't heard any "reassuring noises" either though
17:07:11 <adamw> yeah, this is a bit dead
17:07:14 <adamw> i'll poke the relevant folks
17:07:20 <roshi> thanks
17:07:35 <roshi> #topic (1115120) cryptsetup-1.6.5-1.fc21 breaks booting when using luks partitions
17:07:38 <roshi> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1115120
17:07:40 <roshi> #info Accepted Blocker, kernel, MODIFIED
17:08:56 <sgallagh> Is this only for newly-created partitions during installation
17:08:57 <sgallagh> ?
17:09:08 * roshi reads - doesn't remember
17:09:18 <adamw> bruno noted this had got a bit stuck during monday's QA meeting, but sounds like it got unstuck
17:09:50 <adamw> it affects existing installs but "only for devices using ESSIV IV"
17:09:55 <adamw> i have no goddamn clue what ESSIV IV is.
17:10:05 <roshi> me either
17:10:18 <adamw> oh, the encryption, i think.
17:10:33 * sgallagh hasn't hit this with his system
17:10:38 * jsmith hasn't seen that either
17:10:39 <roshi> Epic Security System Is Vital 4
17:10:58 <adamw> haha. ++roshi
17:11:25 <sgallagh> Can't...tell...if...joking.
17:11:44 <roshi> well, I made it up - but most acronyms are
17:11:47 <roshi> :)
17:11:56 <sgallagh> Ah, encrypted salt-sector initialization vector.
17:12:00 <sgallagh> ... I like roshi's better
17:12:12 <roshi> :D
17:12:40 <roshi> looks like it's patched - nothing for us to do in this meeting
17:12:57 <roshi> aside from publically declare the new meaning of the ESSIV IV acronym
17:13:22 <sgallagh> :-D
17:13:23 <roshi> two left to look over
17:13:28 <roshi> move forward?
17:13:52 <adamw> yup
17:14:02 <adamw> i'm sure bruno will test this one when it lands in a package
17:14:25 <roshi> #topic (1110758) SELinux prevents cockpit from working on Fedora 21
17:14:28 <roshi> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1110758
17:14:30 <roshi> #info Accepted Blocker, selinux-policy-targeted, POST
17:14:47 <sgallagh> This one should just be waiting for a new selinux-policy release, yes?
17:15:15 <adamw> looks like it
17:15:20 <roshi> yeah
17:15:37 <roshi> so this one is good to go it looks like
17:16:21 <adamw> i'll poke mgrepl
17:16:26 <adamw> he could stand to do builds a bit more often
17:16:40 <roshi> wfm
17:16:41 <roshi> #topic (1044778) wandboard uboot missing serial line speed in console environment variable
17:16:44 <roshi> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1044778
17:16:47 <roshi> #info Accepted Blocker, uboot-tools, NEW
17:17:56 <roshi> no movement on this one simce the beginning of the month
17:18:09 <jsmith> Looks like it needs a poke with a sharp stick
17:18:34 <sgallagh> jsmith: Now now, it doesn't need to be sharp. Besides, a smoldering stick leaves a more lasting impression.
17:18:53 <roshi> true
17:19:57 <roshi> anybody here have a wandboard to test with?
17:20:42 <roshi> not that there's a patch - just curious the # of testers we have that *can* test this
17:21:08 <kparal> nothing here in brno
17:21:22 <adamw> i only have a beagleboard
17:21:26 <adamw> (...that's still in the box...)
17:21:36 * satellit ask in #fedora-arm?
17:21:37 <kparal> we have bbb as well
17:22:03 <adamw> i would assume the reporter can test it
17:22:11 <roshi> yeah
17:22:36 <roshi> I have a trimslice here and a bbb - borrowed from tflink, but haven't done much with them
17:24:26 <roshi> pwhalen isn't around - but I imagine he's tracking this one
17:27:27 <roshi> well, that's all of them
17:27:33 <adamw> ayup
17:27:34 <roshi> any reason to do the proposed FE?
17:27:39 <roshi> or should we adjourn?
17:27:55 <adamw> i think we can do 'em in two weeks (next week will be flock)
17:27:59 * jsmith doesn't have a WandBoard either :-(
17:28:13 <adamw> two weeks time will be one day after flock
17:29:18 <roshi> that works for me - I'll update fedocal as well
17:29:45 <adamw> er
17:29:48 <adamw> one day after f reeze, i mean
17:30:28 <roshi> but no blocker review next week, right?
17:33:17 <adamw> unless the folks who aren't at flock want to do one
17:33:27 <adamw> or we do Blocker Review Live (oh god no)
17:33:47 <roshi> only if you can stream it somewhere :)
17:34:36 <roshi> I'll be here for a blocker review - but I don't know about others
17:35:32 <roshi> adamw: we having a QA meeting on Monday?
17:35:41 <roshi> could discuss it then and see if people will be here
17:35:57 <roshi> or I can scrounge around for some people who might be around, like danofsatx-work
17:37:32 <adamw> roshi: not sure if i'll be around for the meeting on monday, but do go ahead without me if not
17:38:25 <roshi> well, I'll end this meeting if no one has anything else
17:41:40 <roshi> thanks for coming folks!
17:41:45 <roshi> #endmeeting