15:58:23 <roshi> #startmeeting F21-blocker-review
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15:58:23 <roshi> #meetingname F21-blocker-review
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15:58:24 <roshi> #topic Roll Call
15:58:39 <roshi> who's around for some not-announced blocker review fun?
15:59:08 <pwhalen> ..and an early start to boot :)
15:59:21 <roshi> what time do you have?
15:59:29 <roshi> my irssi server time must be off...
15:59:39 <pwhalen> 11:58 when you started , 59 now
15:59:42 * adamw around
15:59:53 * adamw confirms pwhalen's times
16:00:01 <roshi> I have 14:01 now
16:00:30 <adamw> that came through at :59:59 for me
16:00:34 * kparal is here
16:00:39 <adamw> i think you may need to run ntpdate :)
16:00:44 <roshi> probably
16:01:28 <roshi> #chair adamw pwhalen
16:01:28 <zodbot> Current chairs: adamw pwhalen roshi
16:01:35 * pschindl is here
16:01:41 <roshi> #chair pschindl
16:01:41 <zodbot> Current chairs: adamw pschindl pwhalen roshi
16:01:52 <kparal> hi pschindl
16:02:01 <roshi> #chair kparal
16:02:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: adamw kparal pschindl pwhalen roshi
16:02:08 <roshi> #topic Introduction
16:02:08 <roshi> Why are we here?
16:02:09 <roshi> #info Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs.
16:02:12 <roshi> #info We'll be following the process outlined at:
16:02:15 <roshi> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
16:02:17 <roshi> #info The bugs up for review today are available at:
16:02:20 <roshi> #link http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current
16:02:22 <roshi> #info The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at:
16:02:25 <roshi> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Alpha_Release_Criteria
16:02:28 <roshi> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Beta_Release_Criteria
16:02:31 <roshi> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Final_Release_Criteria
16:02:34 <roshi> we have a whopping 3 proposed blockers to look at today
16:02:46 <pwhalen> \o/
16:02:53 <roshi> first up is:
16:02:54 <roshi> #topic (1121409) Offline update failed
16:02:54 <roshi> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1121409
16:02:54 <roshi> #info Proposed Blocker, PackageKit, NEW
16:05:38 <kparal> after c10 it seems as -1 blocker
16:06:00 <roshi> so it would seem
16:06:04 <kparal> probably even close the bug
16:06:09 <adamw> yay, short meetings
16:06:49 <adamw> let me see if kalev's around
16:06:58 <roshi> might need some more testing
16:08:42 <adamw> <kalev> adamw: I don't think there's anything left to do
16:08:42 <adamw> adamw: but if anyone runs into an offline update failure, send them my way, I'd like to make sure it actually works
16:08:42 <adamw> <adamw> OK
16:08:42 <adamw> <kalev> but this bug is describing an issue that was there previously and is fixed now
16:08:43 <adamw> no point in keeping the ticket open, I think
16:08:59 <kparal> +1 to close
16:09:02 <adamw> +1 close
16:09:03 <roshi> secretary volunteer?
16:09:10 <roshi> +1 close
16:09:12 <pwhalen> -1 blocker, should be confirmed
16:09:13 * adamw can do it, but doesn't mind if anyone else wants to
16:09:17 <pschindl> -1
16:09:40 * kparal hides
16:09:58 <roshi> pwhalen: you mean don't close it before confirming the fix on affected system?
16:11:01 <pwhalen> be nice to confirm, or if we're confident, close and ask the reporter to reopen if it persists
16:11:35 <roshi> proposed #agreed - 1121409 - Close - This bug has been resolved. If the issue persists, reopen.
16:11:40 <pwhalen> think we usually do the latter
16:11:44 <pwhalen> ack
16:11:48 <pschindl> ack
16:11:53 <adamw> ack
16:11:58 <roshi> #agreed - 1121409 - Close - This bug has been resolved. If the issue persists, reopen.
16:12:08 <roshi> #topic (1141700) Do not autoactivate swaps on machine running live images
16:12:11 <roshi> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1141700
16:12:13 <roshi> #info Proposed Blocker, spin-kickstarts, NEW
16:12:15 * amita joining late
16:12:26 <adamw> hi amita
16:12:30 <amita> heya
16:12:32 <roshi> no worries amita - least you got here, right?
16:12:44 <amita> hehe roshi
16:12:47 <amita> yes
16:13:17 <amita> any task for me..anything I can do please do let me know, sorry I missed Monday meeting too
16:13:57 * jreznik_ has meeting but it's going to end soon
16:14:08 <roshi> #info amita to be #actioned with everything
16:14:32 <roshi> I thought we unproposed this one...
16:14:32 <amita> sure roshi you go do beach party then
16:14:42 <roshi> lol
16:14:55 <amita> ;)
16:14:58 <adamw> oh, i got the un-propose wrong
16:15:04 <adamw> everyone blame the monkey, and move on
16:15:27 <roshi> lol
16:15:28 <roshi> #topic (1141496) syslinux generates unbootable isos in F21
16:15:28 <roshi> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1141496
16:15:28 <roshi> #info Proposed Blocker, syslinux, NEW
16:15:31 * amita blames monkey for everything
16:15:51 <adamw> usually a safe bet
16:15:59 <roshi> afaict adamw no passwords were pasted to the internets, so we're still net positive today :p
16:16:41 <adamw> roshi: yeah, that makes this a *good* morning
16:16:46 <amita> roshi, I saw that password in Adam's code
16:17:06 <roshi> then not what, 10 minutes later? I did the same thing
16:17:54 <adamw> we know security!
16:18:27 <roshi> we're so secure we can hand out passwords and still be secure
16:19:03 <roshi> did anyone test this one?
16:19:13 <amita> not me :P
16:21:09 <adamw> i haven't checked the physical optical media for tc1 yet
16:21:13 <adamw> have it burned and sitting here, but not booted :/
16:21:19 <roshi> I'll check TC2
16:21:23 <adamw> i'll really truly get to tc2 today
16:21:25 <roshi> burning a disk now
16:21:26 <adamw> gotta do RAID tests too
16:21:49 <adamw> so, let's punt again
16:22:21 <roshi> wfm
16:22:46 <kparal> if I remembered, we could have tested this one as well
16:23:06 <adamw> remembering things is good!
16:23:07 <pwhalen> sadly Tc2 is broken for arm, let pbrobinson know
16:23:10 <roshi> proposed #agreed - 1141496 - Punt - More tests need to be done with the latest TC. Will re-discuss next meeting.
16:23:25 <pwhalen> +1 punt, ack
16:23:34 <adamw> pwhalen: do you mean you've let him know, or are you asking us to?
16:23:46 <pwhalen> sorry, I let him know
16:23:47 <pwhalen> :)
16:24:22 <adamw> cool, thanks
16:25:16 <pschindl> ack
16:25:32 <roshi> #agreed - 1141496 - Punt - More tests need to be done with the latest TC. Will re-discuss next meeting.
16:25:45 <roshi> got two proposed FEs
16:26:10 <roshi> or should we review accepted blockers first
16:26:12 <roshi> ?
16:26:26 <adamw> accepted blockers i guess, we're still not frozen
16:26:38 <roshi> that was my inclination
16:26:46 <adamw> oh, while folks are here, remember to karma up the anaconda/blivet/pykickstart update if TC2 testing goes well
16:26:49 <roshi> 13 accepted blockers
16:27:09 <roshi> #topic (1101341) Rescue a Fedora system from grub menu doesn't launch anaconda rescue mode
16:27:12 <roshi> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1101341
16:27:15 <roshi> #info Accepted Blocker, anaconda, ON_QA
16:27:15 <adamw> so much for short meetings
16:28:28 <adamw> fix should be in TC2 for testing
16:28:35 <roshi> yeah
16:28:52 <roshi> moving on
16:29:00 <roshi> #topic (1129629) Anaconda doesn't recognize insufficient size of /boot partition
16:29:03 <roshi> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1129629
16:29:05 <roshi> #info Accepted Blocker, anaconda, ASSIGNED
16:31:02 <adamw> seems like there's a fix on rawhide branch, not sure if it's on 21
16:31:27 * adamw pokes clumens
16:33:27 <adamw> he's not around, so i guess we can ask for clarification in the bug (or, you know, go look at all that open source code)
16:35:20 <roshi> proposed #agreed - 1129629 - NEEDINFO - Is there a fix in the F21 repos?
16:35:32 <roshi> or something more formalish than that
16:35:53 <adamw> wfm
16:36:21 <roshi> ack/nack/patch?
16:36:53 * roshi takes a "wfm" as an ack
16:37:05 <pwhalen> ack
16:37:14 <adamw> ack
16:37:25 <pschindl> ack
16:37:26 <roshi> #agreed - 1129629 - NEEDINFO - Is there a fix in the F21 repos?
16:37:42 <roshi> #topic (1141707) DeviceFactoryError: new size must of type Size
16:37:42 <roshi> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1141707
16:37:43 <roshi> #info Accepted Blocker, anaconda, ON_QA
16:38:32 <roshi> should be in TC2
16:38:42 <roshi> I think we can move to the next
16:39:45 <adamw> sure
16:40:18 <roshi> #topic (1143864) unable to do manual partitioning
16:40:18 <roshi> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1143864
16:40:18 <roshi> #info Accepted Blocker, anaconda, MODIFIED
16:42:47 <roshi> looks like it needs poking
16:43:49 <adamw> +1
16:44:12 * adamw asks lili to re-test
16:44:16 <adamw> fix should be in tc2
16:44:38 <roshi> my burned dvd didn't work with TC2 :(
16:44:43 <kparal> 0.62-1.fc21 is stable and 0.61.3-1.fc21 is in updates-testing
16:44:47 <kparal> that's weird
16:45:00 <kparal> $ pkgwat releases python-blivet
16:45:29 <adamw> kparal: it was a maintainer snafu
16:45:43 <adamw> kparal: 0.61.2+ have an Epoch to fix it
16:46:26 <kparal> ok
16:46:31 * kparal doesn't like epochs
16:46:36 <roshi> #action adamw to ask lili to retest
16:46:41 <adamw> no-one does, but it was the least worst fix.
16:47:05 <roshi> #topic (1143972) Anaconda doesn't show correct amount of free space when using disk with mbr and three partitions already existings
16:47:08 <roshi> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1143972
16:47:10 <roshi> #info Accepted Blocker, anaconda, NEW
16:48:26 <kparal> pschindl: you forgot to update this one
16:49:00 <pschindl> pschindl: my fault.
16:49:04 <kparal> so basically I think it was petr's error to use mbr-formatted disk while booting over UEFI
16:49:20 <kparal> even though that can easily happen to an average joe as well
16:49:33 <pschindl> yep. But still it is problem that anaconda doesn't show any useful information about problem
16:49:34 <kparal> but, anaconda should report the problem better
16:50:27 <kparal> so we would like to change the bug report to ask for informing the user better
16:50:28 <adamw> it should do so, i think what's happening is there's a problem in the storage code which only triggers in this case and prevents you getting to the code that should give you a useful error
16:50:29 <adamw> (iirc)
16:50:35 <adamw> probably not a blocker, though
16:50:42 <kparal> probably not
16:50:59 <kparal> pschindl: can you please update the bug before going to PTO?
16:51:00 <roshi> yeah
16:51:02 <adamw> so, i'd be +1 to making this notablocker now
16:51:13 <roshi> -1 blocker
16:51:21 <roshi> I could see FE though
16:51:25 <pschindl> kparal: I can.
16:51:26 <kparal> or maybe adamw can summarize it while updating the bug
16:51:33 <adamw> i'll try and add a note
16:52:08 <kparal> -1 blocker here
16:52:15 <pschindl> -1 blocker
16:52:31 <roshi> proposed #agreed - 1143972 - RejectedBlocker - This isn't a blocker but could use some more useful information in the error presented to the user.
16:53:48 <kparal> ack
16:53:55 <adamw> ack
16:54:04 <roshi> #agreed - 1143972 - RejectedBlocker - This isn't a blocker but could use some more useful information in the error presented to the user.
16:54:07 <roshi> #topic (1147998) Cloud image does not permit successful reboot
16:54:10 <roshi> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1147998
16:54:12 <roshi> #info Accepted Blocker, cloud-utils, NEW
16:54:30 <kparal> no change
16:54:43 <roshi> since we have no TC2 anyway for cloud images, this is still the same
16:55:03 <adamw> not much we can do except wait for releng to fix cloud image generation i guess
16:55:13 <roshi> yep
16:55:17 <roshi> #topic (1038413) fedup stage2 keymap will always be US again for F20-F21 due to anaconda not writing vconsole.keymap kernel parameter any more (#1035316)
16:55:20 <roshi> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1038413
16:55:22 <roshi> #info Accepted Blocker, fedup, NEW
16:56:35 <roshi> just waiting on fedup for this one
16:56:46 <roshi> anyone got anything for this?
16:58:31 <adamw> nope, waiting on fedup
16:58:53 <roshi> kk, moving on then :)
16:59:00 <roshi> #topic (1088933) update grubby to support device tree options for arm
16:59:03 <roshi> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1088933
16:59:05 <roshi> #info Accepted Blocker, grubby, POST
16:59:35 <adamw> man, this one still
16:59:47 <pwhalen> dgilmore is working on this, expected RSN
16:59:49 <adamw> pwhalen?
16:59:51 <adamw> cool, thanks :)
17:00:04 <roshi> sweet
17:00:34 <roshi> #topic (1120964) Windows NTFS volume corrupted beyond repair during installation
17:00:37 <roshi> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1120964
17:00:40 <roshi> #info Accepted Blocker, python-blivet, ASSIGNED
17:01:36 <pwhalen> this may be a feature
17:02:07 <roshi> haha
17:02:15 <roshi> Anti-malware?
17:02:26 <adamw> well, if you define windows as malware...
17:02:45 <roshi> we'd need to get the marketing people in here for *that* discussion
17:03:10 <roshi> someone to ping chris?
17:03:11 <adamw> looks like we're waiting for dlehman's fix
17:03:21 <adamw> oh, you're right
17:03:32 <roshi> from the comments I don't know dlehman has what he needs
17:04:07 <roshi> they coulda chatted elsewhere
17:05:45 <roshi> pinging in f-devel now
17:07:01 <adamw> i can just ask him to provide an updates.img against the blivet in tc2
17:07:08 <adamw> that way cmurf can test against tc2
17:07:16 <adamw> sorry, just got yanked into fesco meeting
17:07:52 <roshi> np
17:10:36 <adamw> does that sound like a plan?
17:11:02 <roshi> wfm
17:11:17 <roshi> annotate that in bug?
17:11:40 <adamw> yup
17:12:37 <roshi> #topic (1121383) ValueError: specified lv is not part of this vg
17:12:38 <roshi> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1121383
17:12:38 <roshi> #info Accepted Blocker, python-blivet, POST
17:12:47 <roshi> we kinda already touched this one
17:14:06 <roshi> er, nvm
17:15:18 <roshi> fix might be in tc2
17:15:30 <roshi> fix was on master as of 2014-09-22
17:17:08 * adamw catches up
17:17:13 <adamw> master != f21-branch
17:17:40 <roshi> right
17:18:44 <adamw> i can't find the fix in the git log :/
17:18:52 <adamw> guess we'll have to ask
17:19:02 <roshi> sounds about right
17:20:55 <roshi> we've got 3 more
17:21:02 <roshi> but it seems like it's just you and me adamw
17:21:51 <adamw> well, that's enough for checkins
17:21:54 <adamw> may as well knock them out
17:22:00 <roshi> #topic (1141398) anaconda does not see existing Fedora 21 install to LVM-on-RAID
17:22:03 <roshi> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1141398
17:22:06 <roshi> #info Accepted Blocker, python-blivet, MODIFIED
17:22:31 <adamw> should be fixed in TC3
17:22:53 <roshi> you mean 2?
17:24:53 <roshi> either way seems like this one is good
17:29:16 <adamw> no, i meant 3
17:29:47 <roshi> ah - well nothing for us to do anyways
17:29:59 <roshi> right?
17:32:08 <adamw> until tc3 comes out, yup.
17:32:17 <roshi> #topic (1148087) Fedora 21 Alpha ISO images fail to boot on some systems when written to optical media (boot stops or reboots after ISOLINUX string displayed)
17:32:20 <roshi> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1148087
17:32:23 <roshi> #info Accepted Blocker, syslinux, NEW
17:32:48 <roshi> I just reproduced this
17:33:16 <roshi> if I could speed up the reboot cycle I'd have a nice, expensive blue strobe light
17:35:45 <adamw> ah, so we have another reproducer
17:35:49 <adamw> still nowhere near pjones
17:35:56 <roshi> yeah
17:36:00 <adamw> maybe i'll just have to mail him one of my laptops...
17:36:07 <roshi> borrowed this machine from tim
17:37:58 <roshi> do we need a poke for this or just waiting on getting pjones a machine that repros it?
17:40:44 <adamw> that's pretty much it
17:40:52 <roshi> kk
17:40:56 <roshi> last one then :)
17:40:58 <roshi> #topic (1099299) fedup fails to upgrade f20 to rawhide - infinite loop when starting udev
17:41:02 <roshi> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1099299
17:41:04 <roshi> #info Accepted Blocker, systemd, NEW
17:44:16 <adamw> looks like we should check with systemd maintainers that they're on this
17:44:39 <roshi> yeah
17:45:23 <roshi> well, that's it
17:46:41 <roshi> got anything else?
17:46:50 * roshi is gonna end the meeting
17:47:53 <adamw> nup
17:48:05 <roshi> kk
17:48:09 <roshi> #endmeeting