#fedora-blocker-review: F31-blocker-review

Meeting started by adamw at 16:00:53 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. Roll Call (adamw, 16:00:54)
  2. Introduction (adamw, 16:07:49)
    1. Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (adamw, 16:07:49)
    2. We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:07:49)
    3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (adamw, 16:07:51)
    4. The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:07:52)
    5. http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw, 16:07:54)
    6. The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw, 16:07:56)
    7. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:07:58)
    8. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_31_Beta_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:08:00)
    9. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_31_Final_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:08:02)
    10. 6 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:08:09)
    11. 4 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:08:09)
    12. 4 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:08:12)
    13. 5 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:08:13)
    14. for F31 Final, we have: (adamw, 16:08:16)
    15. 4 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:08:24)
    16. starting with proposed Beta blockers (adamw, 16:08:59)

  3. (1749107) firefox does run with old profile after upgrade to F31 (adamw, 16:09:01)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1749107 (adamw, 16:09:02)
    2. Proposed Blocker, firefox, MODIFIED (adamw, 16:09:02)
    3. AGREED: 1749107 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - this is accepted as a violation of the "upgraded systems must meet release criteria" criterion combined with the "desktop browser must work" criterion (adamw, 16:12:35)

  4. (1750394) Gnome Control Center crashes upon a typo in Printers settings (adamw, 16:12:47)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1750394 (adamw, 16:12:47)
    2. Proposed Blocker, gnome-control-center, NEW (adamw, 16:12:47)
    3. AGREED: 1750394 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta), AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is rejected as a Beta blocker as it doesn't really violate the Beta criteria, but is accepted as a Final blocker as a violation of "All elements of the default panel (or equivalent) configuration in all release-blocking desktops must function correctly in typical use" and as a Beta FE so long as the fix is clean (adamw, 16:18:17)

  5. (1749086) Needs updating for Fedora 31 background etc. (adamw, 16:18:30)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1749086 (adamw, 16:18:30)
    2. Proposed Blocker, kde-settings, NEW (adamw, 16:18:30)
    3. AGREED: 1749086 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - accepted as a violation of Basic criterion "The default desktop background must be different from that of the last two stable releases" (for the release-blocking KDE desktop) (adamw, 16:23:37)

  6. (1743585) NetworkManager-wifi should prefer wpa_supplicant over iwd (currently iwd is chosen by dnf to resolve ambiguous dependency) (adamw, 16:24:01)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1743585 (adamw, 16:24:01)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NetworkManager, MODIFIED (adamw, 16:24:01)
    3. AGREED: 1743585 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - this is accepted as a violation of all criteria that rely on a remote network connection (e.g. package updates) for a system dependent on a wifi connection (adamw, 16:26:08)

  7. (1734184) python3-jmespath conflicts with but does not obsolete python2-jmespath (adamw, 16:26:14)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1734184 (adamw, 16:26:14)
    2. Proposed Blocker, python-jmespath, ON_QA (adamw, 16:26:14)
    3. AGREED: 1734184 - RejectedBlocker (Beta) AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - we don't believe this is in any release-blocking default install package set, so it is rejected as a blocker. However it's accepted as an FE as it will affect quite a lot of upgrades, since it's in ansible dep chain (adamw, 16:32:20)

  8. (1728240) Cannot start Fedora-KDE-Live (F31) in basic graphics mode on BIOS machine (adamw, 16:32:28)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1728240 (adamw, 16:32:28)
    2. Proposed Blocker, sddm, NEW (adamw, 16:32:28)
    3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_31_Final_Release_Criteria#.27Basic_graphics_mode.27_boot_mode_behavior (adamw, 16:34:02)
    4. AGREED: 1728240 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this is rejected as a blocker for Beta but accepted for Final under criterion "The generic video driver option ('basic graphics mode' - as described in the Basic criteria) on all release-blocking installer and live images must function as intended...". Also accepted as Beta FE as a significant issue that can't be fixed with an upgrade (adamw, 16:38:12)

  9. Proposed Beta freeze exceptions (adamw, 16:38:26)
    1. as we're in Beta freeze, let's do the Beta FEs next (adamw, 16:38:31)

  10. (1750414) inaccessible workstation repos make gnome-software and dnf unusable (adamw, 16:38:38)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1750414 (adamw, 16:38:39)
    2. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, fedora-workstation-repositories, MODIFIED (adamw, 16:38:39)
    3. AGREED: 1750414 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta), punt (delay decision) for Final blocker - this is clearly bad enough (and the fix simple enough) that we should take it for Beta. Whether to accept it as a Final blocker is a slightly tricky call so we're just going to duck it, because fixing it as a Beta FE will mean we don't have to make up our minds! (adamw, 16:48:32)

  11. (1750237) g-i-s window overlapped with gdm login screen (adamw, 16:48:42)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1750237 (adamw, 16:48:42)
    2. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, gnome-initial-setup, NEW (adamw, 16:48:42)
    3. AGREED: 1750237 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - the contexts in which this might happen are a bit unclear, but we think it can happen on upgrade and on first boot after install, so on that basis a freeze exception is justified as those cannot be fully addressed with a 0-day update (adamw, 16:54:24)

  12. (1749133) Updates to fix robotics spin compose (adamw, 16:54:46)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1749133 (adamw, 16:54:46)
    2. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, player, NEW (adamw, 16:54:46)
    3. AGREED: 1749133 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - fixing a non-blocking image compose is a good reason for a freeze exception, and the required changes here look focused and safe (adamw, 16:57:56)

  13. (1746538) Rootless podman won't start containers (adamw, 16:58:02)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1746538 (adamw, 16:58:03)
    2. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, podman, POST (adamw, 16:58:03)
    3. AGREED: 1746538 - RejectedFreezeException (Beta) - while this is obviously a significant bug worth fixing, we can't see any justification for why it needs to be a freeze exception rather than a normal update (adamw, 17:07:17)

  14. proposed Final blockers (adamw, 17:09:20)
    1. let's move onto proposed Final blockers! (adamw, 17:09:25)

  15. (1749433) can't turn zoom off once enabled (adamw, 17:09:52)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1749433 (adamw, 17:09:52)
    2. Proposed Blocker, gnome-control-center, NEW (adamw, 17:09:52)
    3. AGREED: 1749433 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is accepted as a violation of "All elements of the default panel (or equivalent) configuration in all release-blocking desktops must function correctly in typical use." (adamw, 17:15:29)

  16. (1643446) download progress is often invisible (adamw, 17:15:36)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1643446 (adamw, 17:15:37)
    2. Proposed Blocker, gnome-software, NEW (adamw, 17:15:37)
    3. AGREED: 1643446 - RejectedBlocker (Final), AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - there is not enough support to consider this a clear violation of the release criteria, but it's certainly a bad enough experience to want it fixed for first-time F31 updaters (adamw, 17:23:36)

  17. (1749868) GNOME Software doesn't prepare offline updates (adamw, 17:23:47)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1749868 (adamw, 17:23:47)
    2. Proposed Blocker, gnome-software, NEW (adamw, 17:23:47)
    3. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1750414 (adamw, 17:25:01)
    4. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1749868#c9 (kparal, 17:25:24)
    5. AGREED: 1749868 - punt (delay decision) - with the DNF default flipped, this looks like a serious issue, but there are a few uncertainties and we're also waiting on the outcome of the FESCo ticket before making a decision here (adamw, 17:34:47)

  18. Open floor (adamw, 17:35:01)
    1. for the record, coremodule will secretarialize, apologies for not noting earlier (adamw, 17:35:55)
    2. Beta Go/No-Go meeting is Thursday (bcotton, 17:37:45)
    3. https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9613/ (bcotton, 17:37:54)


Meeting ended at 17:43:26 UTC (full logs).

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