#fedora-blocker-review: F33-blocker-review

Meeting started by adamw at 16:00:49 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. Roll Call (adamw, 16:00:49)
  2. Introduction (adamw, 16:07:57)
    1. Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (adamw, 16:07:57)
    2. We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:07:57)
    3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (adamw, 16:07:59)
    4. The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:08:01)
    5. http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw, 16:08:03)
    6. The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw, 16:08:05)
    7. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:08:07)
    8. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_33_Beta_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:08:09)
    9. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_33_Final_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:08:11)
    10. for Final, we have: (adamw, 16:09:29)
    11. 6 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:09:34)
    12. 5 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:09:34)
    13. 2 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:09:42)
    14. 3 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:09:43)
    15. coremodule will secretarialize (adamw, 16:09:56)

  3. Proposed Final blockers (adamw, 16:10:06)
  4. (1885154) retrace jobs seem to always fail (adamw, 16:10:20)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1885154 (adamw, 16:10:21)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/141 (adamw, 16:10:21)
    3. Proposed Blocker, abrt, NEW (adamw, 16:10:21)
    4. AGREED: 1885154 - RejectedBlocker (Final) AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - this is rejected on the grounds that the app is likely working (the bug is likely in the retrace server itself), and local traceback generation does work so we aren't stuck without being able to report crashes. Accepted as a freeze exception issue just in case a fix is needed to the package, obviously we would want that in for release (adamw, 16:26:49)

  5. (1882863) gnome-software 3.38.0 does not list all software in Add-ons (adamw, 16:27:06)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1882863 (adamw, 16:27:06)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/127 (adamw, 16:27:06)
    3. Proposed Blocker, distribution-gpg-keys, NEW (adamw, 16:27:06)
    4. we have +1 (zbyszek) -1 (kleinkravis) in the ticket - https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/127 (adamw, 16:28:20)
    5. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/127#comment-689152 (kparal, 16:29:39)
    6. https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/105 (cmurf, 16:33:25)
    7. https://github.com/xsuchy/distribution-gpg-keys/commit/df433ba2d077de89625deb276eeb256200ac080c (adamw, 16:36:52)
    8. https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=1620395 (adamw, 16:37:12)
    9. https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-910d76ff81 (adamw, 16:37:39)
    10. this is likely fixed by https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-910d76ff81 (adamw, 16:39:58)
    11. AGREED: 1882863 - RejectedBlocker (Final) AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - we don't think this can really count as a violation of the criterion cited, the app's "basic functionality" is working fine, it is just rejecting a repo whose key it can't find, which is correct behavior. However, we definitely want these additional repos to work at release time as they are widely used, so accepted as a freeze exception issue (adamw, 16:42:52)

  6. (1882718) Can't login if the session is locked (adamw, 16:43:13)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1882718 (adamw, 16:43:13)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/131 (adamw, 16:43:14)
    3. Proposed Blocker, gnome-remote-desktop, NEW (adamw, 16:43:14)
    4. AGREED: 1882718 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - accepted as a violation of "All applications that can be launched...after a default installation of Fedora Workstation...must start successfully and withstand a basic functionality test", counting screen sharing as part of Settings, as the crash means only one screen sharing session can be attempted, after which the server crashes and all subsequent attempts will fail (adamw, 16:58:48)

  7. (1880833) Massive memory leak on AMD cards (adamw, 17:00:30)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1880833 (adamw, 17:00:32)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/116 (adamw, 17:00:32)
    3. Proposed Blocker, mesa, NEW (adamw, 17:00:32)
    4. AGREED: 1880833 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - with current information this is looking quite a lot like a corner case that does not have broad enough impact to block on. It can be re-proposed if further information suggests that isn't true (adamw, 17:15:23)

  8. (1885102) snapshot of home can't be used in a new installation (adamw, 17:15:32)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1885102 (adamw, 17:15:32)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/140 (adamw, 17:15:32)
    3. Proposed Blocker, python-blivet, NEW (adamw, 17:15:32)
    4. AGREED: 1885102 - RejectedBlocker (Final) AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - this is rejected as it seems unlikely it will affect many if any people during F33 cycle, given there are likely few existing cases where someone would want to reuse a btrfs /home snapshot. Accepted as a freeze exception issue as there may be *some* cases, and it cannot be fixed with a post-release update (adamw, 17:25:01)

  9. (1883609) Secure Boot fails to boot F33 Beta image (adamw, 17:25:15)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1883609 (adamw, 17:25:15)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/135 (adamw, 17:25:15)
    3. Proposed Blocker, shim, NEW (adamw, 17:25:17)
    4. https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2479 (cmurf, 17:26:40)
    5. AGREED: 1883609 - punt (delay decision) - this is a worrying bug but it's also very mysterious at present, we don't know what's going on or how many systems it might affect or if it's even a Fedora bug at all (it may be a Lenovo firmware bug). We'll try to gather more information before making a decision (adamw, 17:47:34)

  10. Proposed Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 17:47:50)
  11. (1884617) F32->F33 upgrade: obsolete removed Perl packages requiring perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.30.1) (adamw, 17:48:00)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1884617 (adamw, 17:48:01)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/138 (adamw, 17:48:01)
    3. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, fedora-obsolete-packages, ASSIGNED (adamw, 17:48:01)
    4. AGREED: 1884617 - AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - this seems like a good and useful thing to do, and doing it during freeze means upgrades before or on release day will benefit (adamw, 17:54:26)

  12. (1884467) gnome-tour shortcut keys not working (adamw, 17:54:36)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1884467 (adamw, 17:54:36)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/137 (adamw, 17:54:36)
    3. Proposed Freeze Exceptions, gnome-tour, NEW (adamw, 17:54:38)
    4. there are +3 votes in the ticket (lruzicka, frantisekz, kparal) (adamw, 17:55:27)
    5. AGREED: 1884467 - AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - this may give a poor first impression as it runs on first boot after Workstation install, and for that reason cannot be fixed with a post-release update (adamw, 17:58:01)

  13. Accepted Blockers (adamw, 17:58:18)
    1. 1881234 is in the process of being fixed, i'll try to confirm the fix after the meeting (adamw, 17:59:10)

  14. (1884260) cheese creates invalid and extremely long video files, each app restart making them longer (adamw, 17:59:17)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1884260 (adamw, 17:59:20)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/136 (adamw, 17:59:20)
    3. Accepted Blocker, cheese, ASSIGNED (adamw, 17:59:20)
    4. the bug here seems clear-cut, and there's an upstream issue too. david king has taken responsibility for it, so ball is in his court (adamw, 18:04:13)

  15. (1816547) Firefox not using langpacks for localization (adamw, 18:04:28)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1816547 (adamw, 18:04:28)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/69 (adamw, 18:04:28)
    3. Accepted Blocker, firefox, ASSIGNED (adamw, 18:04:28)
    4. this is just sitting around waiting on firefox maintainers (adamw, 18:07:02)
    5. ACTION: adamw to poke mstransky about #1816547 (adamw, 18:07:20)

  16. (1868141) Select Printer Driver hangs (adamw, 18:09:09)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1868141 (adamw, 18:09:10)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/124 (adamw, 18:09:10)
    3. Accepted Blocker, gnome-control-center, POST (adamw, 18:09:10)
    4. this is fixed upstream, waiting for a 3.38.1 release to be made and built downstream (adamw, 18:11:05)

  17. (1861700) login stuck when changing users repeatedly (log out, log in a different one) (adamw, 18:11:32)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1861700 (adamw, 18:11:32)
    2. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/16 (adamw, 18:11:32)
    3. Accepted Blocker, sddm, ASSIGNED (adamw, 18:11:32)
    4. there's a proposed solution from Benjamin Berg in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1861700#c75 which looks like it would be worth trying, we are waiting on someone to implement that (adamw, 18:12:19)

  18. Open floor (adamw, 18:14:44)
    1. AGREED: it's nap and/or lunch time (adamw, 18:19:42)


Meeting ended at 18:20:12 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. adamw to poke mstransky about #1816547


Action items, by person

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    1. adamw to poke mstransky about #1816547


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