#blocker-review:fedoraproject.org: F41-blocker-review

Meeting started by @adamwill:fedora.im at 16:00:14 UTC

Meeting summary

  1. TOPIC:Roll Call (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:00:17)
  2. TOPIC:Introduction (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:06:34)
    1. INFO: Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:06:42)
    2. INFO: We'll be following the process outlined at: (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:06:44)
    3. LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:06:47)
    4. INFO: The bugs up for review today are available at: (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:06:50)
    5. LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:06:52)
    6. INFO: The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:06:55)
    7. LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:06:57)
    8. LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_41_Beta_Release_Criteria (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:07:00)
    9. LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_41_Final_Release_Criteria (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:07:02)
    10. INFO: for Beta, we have 1 proposed blocker and 1 proposed FE (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:07:20)
    11. INFO: for Final, we have 2 proposed blockers (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:07:37)
    12. INFO: FrantiĊĦek Zatloukal will secretarialize, thanks (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:08:04)
  3. TOPIC:Proposed Beta blockers (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:08:10)
  4. TOPIC:(2270430) Raspberry Pi 4: KDE initial setup is broken without nomodeset, KDE desktop won't load with nomodeset (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:08:19)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2270430 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:08:23)
    2. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1621 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:08:26)
    3. INFO: Proposed Blocker, mesa, NEW (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:08:28)
    4. AGREED: 2270430 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - this is accepted as a violation of Basic criterion "A system installed with a release-blocking desktop must boot to a log in screen where it is possible to log in to a working desktop using a user account created during installation or a 'first boot' utility", for the now release-blocking configuration of KDE on the Raspberry PI (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:22:18)
  5. TOPIC:Proposed Beta freeze exception (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:22:34)
  6. TOPIC:(2307728) gtk4 4.15.5 breaks display change confirmation dialog on X11 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:22:36)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2307728 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:22:39)
    2. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1624 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:22:43)
    3. INFO: Proposed Freeze Exceptions, gtk4, NEW (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:22:45)
    4. AGREED: 2307728 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this is accepted as it breaks significant functionality on non-release-blocking desktops (including Budgie). we will check with GTK folks that the fix should be safe before landing it (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:28:27)
  7. TOPIC:Proposed Final blockers (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:28:43)
  8. TOPIC:(2307278) ABRT does not catch app crashes on Fedora 41 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:28:45)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2307278 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:28:48)
    2. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1622 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:28:50)
    3. INFO: Proposed Blocker, abrt, NEW (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:28:52)
    4. AGREED: 2307278 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this is accepted as a violation of the "basic functionality" criterion for the crash reporter app. We also accept it as a Beta FE as this is significant functionality for Beta testing, the value of Beta testing is lessened if this does not work (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:35:27)
  9. TOPIC:(2303813) With 6.10 kernels before 6.10.5 and 6.11 kernels before rc4, gnome-disks is partly nonfunctional (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:36:09)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2303813 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:36:11)
    2. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1616 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:36:14)
    3. INFO: Proposed Blocker, kernel, POST (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:36:16)
    4. AGREED: 2303813 - punt (delay decision) - we're still not really clear on the contours of this or whether it's already fixed, due to differing hardware and lack of input from the reporter (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:48:32)
  10. TOPIC:Accepted Beta blockers (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:49:51)
    1. INFO: reminder: we are not revoting here, just checking status (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:49:58)
  11. TOPIC:(2305763) Orca crashes on Fedora 41 Pre-beta due to a Python "AttributeError". (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:50:10)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2305763 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:50:13)
    2. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1620 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:50:15)
    3. INFO: Accepted Blocker, at-spi2-core, ON_QA (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:50:17)
    4. INFO: this ought to be fixed, would be good if we can get confirmation (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:50:29)
  12. TOPIC:(2276839) Fedora 41: Workstation live x86_64 image exceeds maximum size (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:51:48)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2276839 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:51:50)
    2. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1602 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:51:53)
    3. INFO: Accepted Blocker, distribution, ASSIGNED (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:51:55)
    4. INFO: the plan here is "Let's try dropping botocore, and if that's not enough, the Workstation WG is okay to raise to 2.5GiB." unclear on the status of the botocore change (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:52:22)
    5. ACTION: Conan Kudo to try and implement dropping botocore from the image (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:54:30)
  13. TOPIC:(2305291) GRUB 2.12 generated grub.cfg does not work with GRUB 2.06 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:54:42)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2305291 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:54:46)
    2. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1618 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:54:49)
    3. INFO: Accepted Blocker, grub2, NEW (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:54:52)
    4. INFO: we could use some testing to clarify if IoT is affected by this (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:59:55)
  14. TOPIC:(2282171) gsk: vulkan renderer breaks gtk4 apps on Raspberry Pi 4 and 400 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:01:35)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2282171 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:01:38)
    2. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1605 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:01:40)
    3. INFO: Accepted Blocker, gtk4, NEW (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:01:42)
    4. INFO: we seem to be making some progress with getting the different upstreams to collaborate on this, will keep monitoring it (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:09:09)
  15. TOPIC:(2283978) Raspberry Pi 4 automatically suspends when idle, claims to support suspend, but can't be woken up (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:10:13)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2283978 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:10:16)
    2. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1607 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:10:18)
    3. INFO: Accepted Blocker, kernel, NEW (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:10:20)
    4. INFO: we still will probably have to document or waive this, it doesn't look like anyone came up with any bright ideas (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:10:39)
  16. TOPIC:Open floor (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:14:19)


Meeting ended at 17:22:18 UTC

Action items

  1. Conan Kudo to try and implement dropping botocore from the image


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