2025-02-24 17:01:04 <@kparal:matrix.org> !startmeeting F42-blocker-review
2025-02-24 17:01:05 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2025-02-24 17:01:04 UTC
2025-02-24 17:01:05 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'F42-blocker-review'
2025-02-24 17:01:25 <@kparal:matrix.org> well, a success!
2025-02-24 17:01:27 <@kparal:matrix.org> !topic Roll Call
2025-02-24 17:01:27 <@pboy:fedora.im> !hi  obviously it does 
2025-02-24 17:01:27 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Sorry, I can only look up one username at a time
2025-02-24 17:01:39 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !hi
2025-02-24 17:01:40 <@adamwill:fedora.im> thanks kamil, i'll check the logs later
2025-02-24 17:01:40 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his
2025-02-24 17:01:43 <@pboy:fedora.im> !hi
2025-02-24 17:01:44 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Peter Boy (pboy)
2025-02-24 17:01:46 <@derekenz:fedora.im> !hi
2025-02-24 17:01:47 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Derek Enz (derekenz)
2025-02-24 17:02:37 <@kparal:matrix.org> I'll be (trying to) lead the meeting today, because Adam is having a very long full english breakfast...
2025-02-24 17:02:47 <@kparal:matrix.org> and a vacation, or whatnot
2025-02-24 17:02:59 <@derekenz:fedora.im> Enjoy Adam!
2025-02-24 17:03:02 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> Chupacabra
2025-02-24 17:03:21 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> mmm english breakfast
2025-02-24 17:03:49 <@kparal:matrix.org> gah, another one with two accounts and no hint which one is the primary one
2025-02-24 17:03:56 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> lol
2025-02-24 17:04:10 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> ain't nobody topping my account set :)
2025-02-24 17:05:08 <@kparal:matrix.org> anyway, let's start
2025-02-24 17:05:18 <@kparal:matrix.org> !topic Introduction
2025-02-24 17:05:22 <@kparal:matrix.org> Why are we here?
2025-02-24 17:05:26 <@kparal:matrix.org> !info Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs.
2025-02-24 17:05:30 <@kparal:matrix.org> !info We'll be following the process outlined at:
2025-02-24 17:05:33 <@kparal:matrix.org> !link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
2025-02-24 17:05:36 <@kparal:matrix.org> !info The bugs up for review today are available at:
2025-02-24 17:05:39 <@kparal:matrix.org> !link http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current
2025-02-24 17:05:42 <@kparal:matrix.org> !info The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at:
2025-02-24 17:05:44 <@kparal:matrix.org> !link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria
2025-02-24 17:05:47 <@kparal:matrix.org> !link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_42_Beta_Release_Criteria
2025-02-24 17:05:50 <@kparal:matrix.org> !link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_42_Final_Release_Criteria
2025-02-24 17:06:29 <@kparal:matrix.org> today we have:
2025-02-24 17:06:34 <@kparal:matrix.org> !info 3 Proposed Blockers
2025-02-24 17:06:38 <@kparal:matrix.org> !info 3 Accepted Blockers
2025-02-24 17:06:40 <@kparal:matrix.org> !info 0 Accepted 0-day Blockers
2025-02-24 17:06:43 <@kparal:matrix.org> !info 0 Accepted Previous Release Blockers
2025-02-24 17:06:46 <@kparal:matrix.org> !info 4 Proposed Freeze Exceptions
2025-02-24 17:06:48 <@kparal:matrix.org> !info 5 Accepted Freeze Exceptions
2025-02-24 17:06:57 <@kparal:matrix.org> pasting line by line is terrible
2025-02-24 17:07:09 <@kparal:matrix.org> anyone volunteering to be a bug secretary?
2025-02-24 17:07:56 <@kparal:matrix.org> if not, I'll do it after the meeting or leave it up to Adam 😉 
2025-02-24 17:08:09 <@kparal:matrix.org> ok, let's start
2025-02-24 17:08:40 <@kparal:matrix.org> !topic Proposed Blockers
2025-02-24 17:09:12 <@kparal:matrix.org> hrm, does Adam really always paste it line by line? no wonder he's nuts
2025-02-24 17:09:17 <@kparal:matrix.org> !topic (2346007) GCC with LTO miscompiles KWin and breaks using ICC profiles for color management
2025-02-24 17:09:19 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> yeah
2025-02-24 17:09:21 <@kparal:matrix.org> !link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2346007
2025-02-24 17:09:24 <@kparal:matrix.org> !link https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1754
2025-02-24 17:09:25 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> the bot chokes a lot on multiline paste
2025-02-24 17:09:28 <@kparal:matrix.org> !info Proposed Blocker, gcc, NEW
2025-02-24 17:09:33 <@kparal:matrix.org> !info Ticket vote: BetaBlocker (+1,0,-1) (+ngompa, -nielsenb)
2025-02-24 17:09:35 <@kparal:matrix.org> !info Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+5,0,-0) (+adamwill, +nielsenb, +derekenz, +ngompa, +lruzicka)
2025-02-24 17:09:37 <@kparal:matrix.org> !info Ticket vote: BetaFreezeException (+5,0,-0) (+adamwill, +nielsenb, +derekenz, +ngompa, +lruzicka)
2025-02-24 17:10:35 <@kparal:matrix.org> so, we already have pretty strong +5 votes for BetaFE and FinalBlocker. Does anyone want to add something?
2025-02-24 17:10:48 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> I don't :)
2025-02-24 17:11:00 <@kparal:matrix.org> Neal, what happens if you break your screen and then reboot the machine, as a normal person would? does it work after a fresh boot?
2025-02-24 17:11:10 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> it stays borked
2025-02-24 17:11:19 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> until you clear out the ICC settings
2025-02-24 17:11:26 <@kparal:matrix.org> so how do you reset the profile when you don't see anything?
2025-02-24 17:11:36 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> VT switch, erase the config file
2025-02-24 17:11:44 <@kparal:matrix.org> bummer
2025-02-24 17:11:49 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> yeah it really suck
2025-02-24 17:11:52 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> *sucks even
2025-02-24 17:12:14 <@kparal:matrix.org> given the severity, I'm fine with the final blocker
2025-02-24 17:12:29 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> we think we have a workaround in Plasma 6.3.1 or upcoming 6.3.2
2025-02-24 17:12:39 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> but I would rather keep the blocker open until we confirm that
2025-02-24 17:12:58 <@farribeiro:matrix.org> !hi
2025-02-24 17:12:59 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> and really, LTO miscompiles are painful
2025-02-24 17:13:01 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Fábio Ribeiro (farribeiro) - he / him / his
2025-02-24 17:13:11 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> (6.3.2 releases tomorrow)
2025-02-24 17:14:38 <@kparal:matrix.org> proposed !agreed 2346007 - AcceptedBetaFE AcceptedFinalBlocker - This is quite difficult to work around and a complete showstopper for a general user. Therefore it is accepted as a blocker.
2025-02-24 17:15:01 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> +1
2025-02-24 17:15:08 <@derekenz:fedora.im> +1
2025-02-24 17:15:42 <@kparal:matrix.org> usually this is the time for ack/nack/patch, but it doesn't really matter 🙂 
2025-02-24 17:16:12 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> ack
2025-02-24 17:16:15 <@derekenz:fedora.im> ack
2025-02-24 17:16:23 <@kparal:matrix.org> !agreed 2346007 - AcceptedBetaFE AcceptedFinalBlocker - This is quite difficult to work around and a complete showstopper for a general user. Therefore it is accepted as a blocker.
2025-02-24 17:16:43 <@kparal:matrix.org> !topic (2347292) The initial setup in KDE does not switch on third party repositories
2025-02-24 17:16:47 <@kparal:matrix.org> !link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2347292
2025-02-24 17:16:52 <@kparal:matrix.org> !link https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1765
2025-02-24 17:16:57 <@kparal:matrix.org> !info Proposed Blocker, plasma-welcome, NEW
2025-02-24 17:17:29 <@kparal:matrix.org> this one is very fresh
2025-02-24 17:17:57 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> you won't have tummy ache from it
2025-02-24 17:18:23 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I'm confused how this broke
2025-02-24 17:18:25 <@kparal:matrix.org> the proposed criterion doesn't really cover this
2025-02-24 17:18:28 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> we didn't change anything
2025-02-24 17:18:50 <@kparal:matrix.org> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_42_Final_Release_Criteria#First_boot_experience
2025-02-24 17:18:50 <@kparal:matrix.org> This is the right one:
2025-02-24 17:18:57 <@kparal:matrix.org> "If an initial setup utility is run or intended to be run after the first boot of the installed system, then it must start successfully and each page or panel of the initial setup utility should withstand a basic functionality test. "
2025-02-24 17:19:15 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> Ok, then I guess let's move it to Final
2025-02-24 17:19:42 <@kparal:matrix.org> yes, it looks like a clear Final violation
2025-02-24 17:19:54 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> This is also the plasma-welcome-fedora package rather than plasma-welcome itself, so I've moved the bug to that package
2025-02-24 17:20:08 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> Thanks Conan Kudo 
2025-02-24 17:20:35 <@kparal:matrix.org> FinalBlocker +1
2025-02-24 17:20:35 <@kparal:matrix.org> BetaFE +1
2025-02-24 17:21:00 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> FinalBlocker +1
2025-02-24 17:21:00 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> BetaFE +1
2025-02-24 17:21:04 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> +1 to Kamil
2025-02-24 17:21:06 <@derekenz:fedora.im> BetaFE +1
2025-02-24 17:21:06 <@derekenz:fedora.im> FinalBlocker +1
2025-02-24 17:22:04 <@kparal:matrix.org> proposed !agreed 2347292 - AcceptedBetaFE AcceptedFinalBlocker - This is a violation of "each page or panel of the initial setup utility should withstand a basic functionality test"
2025-02-24 17:22:14 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> ack
2025-02-24 17:22:19 <@derekenz:fedora.im> ack
2025-02-24 17:22:32 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> ack
2025-02-24 17:22:47 <@kparal:matrix.org> !agreed 2347292 - AcceptedBetaFE AcceptedFinalBlocker - This is a violation of "each page or panel of the initial setup utility should withstand a basic functionality test"
2025-02-24 17:23:00 <@kparal:matrix.org> !topic (2344322) installed package systemd-standalone-sysusers-257.2-17.fc42.x86_64 conflicts with systemd provided by systemd-257.2-17.fc42.x86_64 from rawhide
2025-02-24 17:23:03 <@kparal:matrix.org> !link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2344322
2025-02-24 17:23:07 <@kparal:matrix.org> !link https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1752
2025-02-24 17:23:09 <@kparal:matrix.org> !info Proposed Blocker, systemd, POST
2025-02-24 17:23:12 <@kparal:matrix.org> !info Ticket vote: BetaBlocker (+2,0,-0) (+nielsenb, +lruzicka)
2025-02-24 17:25:00 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I don't know what we should be doing for this issue anymore
2025-02-24 17:26:58 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> 
2025-02-24 17:26:58 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> but in principle I agree with blocker status, because the UX sucks now, so...
2025-02-24 17:26:58 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> +1 BetaBlocker
2025-02-24 17:27:19 <@kparal:matrix.org> hmm, I haven't read this one before and it's quite complex
2025-02-24 17:28:07 <@kparal:matrix.org> which containers do we block on?
2025-02-24 17:29:17 <@kparal:matrix.org> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/releases/f42 doesn't exist, which means neither the release blocking list does
2025-02-24 17:29:55 <@kparal:matrix.org> for F41, no container is listed: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/releases/f41/blocking/
2025-02-24 17:30:02 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> container-toolbox is listed
2025-02-24 17:30:13 <@kparal:matrix.org> sorry, I overlooked that
2025-02-24 17:30:40 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> tbh, I'm not sure _why_ our base container isn't release-blocking
2025-02-24 17:31:02 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> especially with the hoopla about bootc, that probably should change eventually
2025-02-24 17:32:32 <@kparal:matrix.org> alright, so, I don't really know how to vote here. This looks like a big change in what users expect, but not specifically a bug. A packaging side effect. It doesn't break system functionality, but certain software is not installable until you swap systemd 
2025-02-24 17:32:51 <@kparal:matrix.org> Btw, I wonder whether `dnf swap` works, instead of `--allowerasing`?
2025-02-24 17:32:53 <@kparal:matrix.org> Anyway
2025-02-24 17:32:56 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> it does
2025-02-24 17:33:06 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> the budgie people use that
2025-02-24 17:33:27 <@kparal:matrix.org> This sounds like something that could be documented, and not considered an issue, by some people
2025-02-24 17:33:31 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !link https://github.com/BuddiesOfBudgie/budgie-desktop/pull/673
2025-02-24 17:33:42 <@kparal:matrix.org> perhaps raise this with FESCo under the Change ticket?
2025-02-24 17:34:16 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> supposedly the conflict no longer exists anymore
2025-02-24 17:34:23 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> but I haven't tested
2025-02-24 17:35:34 <@kparal:matrix.org> alright, let's punt this. Even if this was deemed a blocker, I think it would qualify for Final and not Beta. Let's test whether this is still a problem, and if it is, consider raising this with FESCo instead.
2025-02-24 17:36:07 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> ok
2025-02-24 17:36:07 <@kparal:matrix.org> thoughts?
2025-02-24 17:36:27 <@derekenz:fedora.im> Sounds good
2025-02-24 17:36:49 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> sounds good to me
2025-02-24 17:38:06 <@kparal:matrix.org> proposed !agreed 2344322 - punt - We're not sure whether this is a bug, or just something to be documented (and improved in certain packages). A discussion with FESCo would be very helpful. But first let's try whether this issue is still valid or not, after latest package changes.
2025-02-24 17:38:11 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> ack
2025-02-24 17:38:14 <@derekenz:fedora.im> ack
2025-02-24 17:38:18 <@farribeiro:matrix.org> ack
2025-02-24 17:38:20 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> ack
2025-02-24 17:38:26 <@kparal:matrix.org> !agreed 2344322 - punt - We're not sure whether this is a bug, or just something to be documented (and improved in certain packages). A discussion with FESCo would be very helpful. But first let's try whether this issue is still valid or not, after latest package changes.
2025-02-24 17:38:41 <@kparal:matrix.org> !topic Proposed Freeze Exceptions
2025-02-24 17:38:54 <@kparal:matrix.org> !topic (2337588) GNU Toolchain Update (gcc 15, binutils 2.44, glibc 2.41, gdb 15+)
2025-02-24 17:38:57 <@kparal:matrix.org> !link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2337588
2025-02-24 17:38:59 <@kparal:matrix.org> !link https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1761
2025-02-24 17:39:02 <@kparal:matrix.org> !info Proposed Freeze Exceptions, Changes Tracking, ASSIGNED, depends on other bugs 
2025-02-24 17:39:04 <@kparal:matrix.org> !info Ticket vote: BetaFreezeException (+1,0,-0) (+nielsenb)
2025-02-24 17:39:42 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I suspect this is also going to wind up being related to other blocker/FE bugs caused by gcc 15 errors
2025-02-24 17:40:01 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I'm fine with a freeze exception at least, though it's weird putting it with the change ticket
2025-02-24 17:40:06 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> +1 BetaFE
2025-02-24 17:41:02 <@kparal:matrix.org> BetaFE +1
2025-02-24 17:41:28 <@derekenz:fedora.im> BetaFE +1
2025-02-24 17:41:43 <@farribeiro:matrix.org> BetaFE +1
2025-02-24 17:42:15 <@kparal:matrix.org> proposed !agreed 2337588 - AcceptedBetaFE - We think it's beneficial to include this in the Beta release for a wide user testing.
2025-02-24 17:42:55 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> ack
2025-02-24 17:42:58 <@farribeiro:matrix.org> ack
2025-02-24 17:43:00 <@derekenz:fedora.im> ack
2025-02-24 17:43:21 <@kparal:matrix.org> !agreed 2337588 - AcceptedBetaFE - We think it's beneficial to include this in the Beta release for wide user testing.
2025-02-24 17:43:30 <@kparal:matrix.org> !topic (2347328) Update the FEX stack for f42
2025-02-24 17:43:33 <@kparal:matrix.org> !link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2347328
2025-02-24 17:43:36 <@kparal:matrix.org> !link https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1766
2025-02-24 17:43:55 <@kparal:matrix.org> !info Proposed Freeze Exceptions, fex-emu, MODIFIED
2025-02-24 17:43:59 <@kparal:matrix.org> !info Ticket vote: BetaFreezeException (+1,0,-0) (+ngompa)
2025-02-24 17:44:34 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> This is related to the FEX change for F42
2025-02-24 17:44:58 <@kparal:matrix.org> this seems quite standalone, without much risk to anything major, IIUIC
2025-02-24 17:45:02 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> yeah
2025-02-24 17:45:18 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> Davide Cavalca more or less finished things up and so it'd be good to have this in
2025-02-24 17:45:47 <@kparal:matrix.org> otoh, if we don't ship the binaries on some ISO, the blocker FE is quite meaningless, it will be in updates anyway
2025-02-24 17:45:53 <@kparal:matrix.org> but I have no trouble giving it +1 FE
2025-02-24 17:46:16 <@kparal:matrix.org> otoh, if we don't ship the binaries on some ISO, the FE proposal is quite meaningless, it will be in updates anyway
2025-02-24 17:46:57 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> +1 FE
2025-02-24 17:47:01 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> it's shipped on Fedora KDE ARM
2025-02-24 17:47:18 <@derekenz:fedora.im> +1 FE
2025-02-24 17:47:56 <@kparal:matrix.org> proposed !agreed 2347328 - AcceptedBetaFE - This is shipped by default by Fedora KDE ARM, and doesn't pose a risk to anything major, so we're fine with giving it a freeze exception.
2025-02-24 17:48:05 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> ack
2025-02-24 17:48:09 <@farribeiro:matrix.org> ack
2025-02-24 17:48:14 <@derekenz:fedora.im> ack
2025-02-24 17:48:20 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> ack
2025-02-24 17:48:53 <@kparal:matrix.org> !agreed 2347328 - AcceptedBetaFE - This is shipped by default by Fedora KDE ARM, and doesn't pose a risk to anything major, so we're fine with giving it a freeze exception.
2025-02-24 17:49:03 <@kparal:matrix.org> (I discovered a trick to make these meetings bearable - just approve everything!)
2025-02-24 17:49:20 <@kparal:matrix.org> don't tell Adam...
2025-02-24 17:49:27 <@kparal:matrix.org> !topic (2330681) Something changed between kernel-6.13.0-0.rc0.20241126git7eef7e306d3c.10.fc42 and kernel-6.13.0-0.rc1.20241202gite70140ba0d2b.14.fc42 which made debug kernels become non-working
2025-02-24 17:49:31 <@kparal:matrix.org> !link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2330681
2025-02-24 17:49:34 <@kparal:matrix.org> !link https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1745
2025-02-24 17:49:38 <@kparal:matrix.org> !info Proposed Freeze Exceptions, kernel, NEW
2025-02-24 17:49:40 <@kparal:matrix.org> !info Ticket vote: BetaBlocker (+0,0,-4) (-adamwill, -nielsenb, -derekenz, -ngompa)
2025-02-24 17:49:44 <@kparal:matrix.org> !info Ticket vote: BetaFreezeException (+2,0,-0) (+geraldosimiao, +ngompa)
2025-02-24 17:50:48 <@kparal:matrix.org> this is already rejected as a beta blocker, now we're voting just about beta FE
2025-02-24 17:50:57 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> broken debug kernels kind of suck, but we don't ship them on any media...
2025-02-24 17:51:07 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> BetaFE +1
2025-02-24 17:51:21 <@farribeiro:matrix.org> BetaFE +1
2025-02-24 17:51:24 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> I think BetaFE +1 is ok
2025-02-24 17:51:24 <@kparal:matrix.org> no harm in giving it a FE
2025-02-24 17:51:28 <@kparal:matrix.org> BetaFE +1
2025-02-24 17:51:58 <@derekenz:fedora.im> BetaFE +1
2025-02-24 17:52:12 <@kparal:matrix.org> proposed !agreed 2330681 - AcceptedBetaFE - We would like to fix debug kernels ASAP, and we don't ship them on any medium, so this should be a safe freeze exception to grant.
2025-02-24 17:52:26 <@farribeiro:matrix.org> ack
2025-02-24 17:52:54 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> ack
2025-02-24 17:52:57 <@derekenz:fedora.im> ack
2025-02-24 17:53:59 <@kparal:matrix.org> !agreed 2330681 - AcceptedBetaFE - We would like to fix debug kernels ASAP, and we don't ship them on any medium, so this should be a safe freeze exception to grant.
2025-02-24 17:54:19 <@kparal:matrix.org> well, and that's the end of the proposals!
2025-02-24 17:54:30 <@kparal:matrix.org> now we should look at already accepted blockers...
2025-02-24 17:54:35 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> Cool
2025-02-24 17:54:53 <@kparal:matrix.org> !topic Accepted Blockers
2025-02-24 17:54:59 <@kparal:matrix.org> !topic (2346436) "EFI System Partition" does not show in available filesystems for custom installs since blivet 3.12.0
2025-02-24 17:55:02 <@kparal:matrix.org> !link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2346436
2025-02-24 17:55:04 <@kparal:matrix.org> !link https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1758
2025-02-24 17:55:06 <@kparal:matrix.org> !info Accepted Blocker, anaconda, POST
2025-02-24 17:56:13 <@kparal:matrix.org> the PR is still not merged, so this is waiting for anaconda devs
2025-02-24 17:56:24 <@kparal:matrix.org> but it seems to be on the right path
2025-02-24 17:57:14 <@kparal:matrix.org> maybe poke the devs to merge this, or at least create an updates image, so that we can fix it
2025-02-24 17:57:40 <@kparal:matrix.org> !info this is pending anaconda devs to merge the PR, let's poke them a bit
2025-02-24 17:57:46 <@kparal:matrix.org> anything more to this?
2025-02-24 17:58:10 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> I don't think
2025-02-24 17:58:20 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> don't think so
2025-02-24 17:58:24 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> probably needs a poke
2025-02-24 17:58:30 <@kparal:matrix.org> !topic (2344434) Cannot install to a software RAID device created in the storage editor as it's impossible to assign the root mount point successfully
2025-02-24 17:58:34 <@kparal:matrix.org> !link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2344434
2025-02-24 17:58:37 <@kparal:matrix.org> !link https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1751
2025-02-24 17:58:39 <@kparal:matrix.org> !info Accepted Blocker, anaconda-webui, NEW
2025-02-24 17:59:47 <@kparal:matrix.org> the PR is also open, but without any review this time
2025-02-24 18:00:06 <@kparal:matrix.org> oh, and it's very fresh, 4 hours old
2025-02-24 18:00:17 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> so probably just wait a week on this?
2025-02-24 18:00:46 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> are we concerned we could wind up with release slippage?
2025-02-24 18:01:16 <@kparal:matrix.org> I think it looks ok at this stage, doesn't it
2025-02-24 18:01:28 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> beta release is slated for March 11
2025-02-24 18:01:30 <@kparal:matrix.org> !info there is a fresh PR, needs review
2025-02-24 18:01:39 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> so that means there's only two weeks
2025-02-24 18:02:15 <@kparal:matrix.org> well at least for these two blockers, we have fixes already, we just need to build it and test it, once merged
2025-02-24 18:02:21 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> yup
2025-02-24 18:02:31 <@kparal:matrix.org> ok, let's go to the next one
2025-02-24 18:02:37 <@kparal:matrix.org> !topic (2342065) Broken support for C++ coroutines in GCC 15 breaks qcoro, which breaks Plasma Discover
2025-02-24 18:02:40 <@kparal:matrix.org> !link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2342065
2025-02-24 18:02:43 <@kparal:matrix.org> !link https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1747
2025-02-24 18:02:45 <@kparal:matrix.org> !info Accepted Blocker, gcc, POST
2025-02-24 18:03:16 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> this one has been annoying, we've been playing wack-a-mole across KDE about this bug
2025-02-24 18:04:29 <@kparal:matrix.org> so no fix yet, it seems
2025-02-24 18:04:34 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> seemingly there might be a fix, but we need the gcc folks to update the package to find out
2025-02-24 18:04:45 <@farchord:fedora.im> Yes.... 
2025-02-24 18:04:49 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> they added a test case from KDE to verify behavior
2025-02-24 18:05:10 <@kparal:matrix.org> Neal, your comment #19 applies to the update in #18?
2025-02-24 18:05:39 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> yes
2025-02-24 18:06:02 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> bodhi's fun automatic bug closer kicked in when I didn't want it to
2025-02-24 18:06:44 <@kparal:matrix.org> ok, so there's a new patch in the works, but we need the gcc maintainers to update the package
2025-02-24 18:07:21 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> we worked around it in two KDE packages by turning off GNU C++ extensions
2025-02-24 18:07:34 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> but we don't really know how widespread the problem is
2025-02-24 18:08:57 <@kparal:matrix.org> !info there are some mitigations in two KDE packages, but the gcc issue is still unfixed. A new patch is available, according to Neal, but needs a new gcc build.
2025-02-24 18:09:23 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> (well, I assume there's a new patch since they added a test case for it...)
2025-02-24 18:09:39 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> gcc commit messages are kind of inscrutable
2025-02-24 18:09:52 <@kparal:matrix.org> ok, thanks
2025-02-24 18:09:59 <@kparal:matrix.org> and that's all!
2025-02-24 18:10:10 <@kparal:matrix.org> !topic Open Discussion <your bugs here>
2025-02-24 18:10:19 <@kparal:matrix.org> anything else from anyone?
2025-02-24 18:11:10 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> are you planning to submit the updates tagged with accepted bugs after this meeting?
2025-02-24 18:11:34 <@kparal:matrix.org> you mean request accepted FEs to be pushed?
2025-02-24 18:11:39 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> yes
2025-02-24 18:11:42 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> I do not have anything, I will need to go anyway. Take care and have a nice time.
2025-02-24 18:11:44 <@lruzicka:matrix.org> Thanks
2025-02-24 18:11:50 <@kparal:matrix.org> Thanks lruzicka 
2025-02-24 18:12:17 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I'm waiting on the KDE Plasma update FE to be requested to be pushed to merge https://pagure.io/fedora-comps/pull-request/1092
2025-02-24 18:12:47 <@kparal:matrix.org> Conan Kudo: I didn't mean to, but Adam is away today and tomorrow, maybe it's a good idea to do it. I'll ping him and ask him.
2025-02-24 18:13:14 <@farchord:fedora.im> Yeah adam was bugged yesterday and didn't seem too happy XD
2025-02-24 18:13:45 <@derekenz:fedora.im> Thus Adam is on vacation lol
2025-02-24 18:15:54 <@kparal:matrix.org> I'll let you know Conan Kudo 
2025-02-24 18:15:57 <@kparal:matrix.org> anything else?
2025-02-24 18:16:23 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> nothing from me that's urgent
2025-02-24 18:16:44 <@derekenz:fedora.im> Nothing for now, thanks Kamil
2025-02-24 18:16:49 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I would also like https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2025-6ec8dfc721 pushed too since it meets karma (even though bodhi doesn't realize it yet)
2025-02-24 18:16:53 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> and that's it
2025-02-24 18:17:37 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I'm done now :)
2025-02-24 18:17:39 <@marcdeop:matrix.org> will we be able to have a FE for KDE Plasma 6.3.2? it's launching tomorrow :)
2025-02-24 18:18:33 <@kparal:matrix.org> well you can request it. It depends on how many changes there are, I guess
2025-02-24 18:19:27 <@kparal:matrix.org> ok, thanks everyone for attending!
2025-02-24 18:19:34 <@kparal:matrix.org> !endmeeting