#blocker-review:fedoraproject.org log

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:00:56

!startmeeting F42-blocker-review

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

17:00:57

Meeting started at 2025-03-03 17:00:56 UTC

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

17:00:57

The Meeting name is 'F42-blocker-review'

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:00:59

!topic Roll Call

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:01:05

ahoyhoy folks, who's around for blocker review fun?

<@smilner:fedora.im>

17:01:48

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:01:49

None (smilner)

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

17:01:57

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:01:58

Brandon Nielsen (nielsenb)

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:02:03

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:02:06

Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his

<@derekenz:fedora.im>

17:02:15

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:02:17

Derek Enz (derekenz)

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:02:24

steve's here, so all our cubical blockers are taken care of

<@smilner:fedora.im>

17:02:51

That's what I'm here for 💪

<@boniboyblue:fedora.im>

17:03:05

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:03:07

Christopher Boni (boniboyblue)

<@lruzicka:matrix.org>

17:03:19

Hola

<@decathorpe:fedora.im>

17:03:46

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:03:47

Fabio Valentini (decathorpe) - he / him / his

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:03:58

how's everyone doing this fine blockerday

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:04:29

being on pacific time is weird

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

17:04:33

Trying to teach a foster cat to stay off the keyboard

<@smilner:fedora.im>

17:04:52

I can't believe it's Monday™️

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:06:36

Conan Kudo west coast time best...coast...time

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:06:47

alrighty, let's get rolling with some exciting boilerplate

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:07:03

oh hey, i guess we'll find out if multiline paste works in nheko

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:07:04

!link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_42_Final_Release_Criteria

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:07:04

Why are we here?

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:07:04

!info Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs.

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:07:04

!link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:07:04

!info We'll be following the process outlined at:

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:07:04

!info The bugs up for review today are available at:

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:07:04

!link http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:07:04

!info The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at:

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:07:04

!link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:07:04

!link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_42_Beta_Release_Criteria

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:07:04

!topic Introduction

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:07:08

yay

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:07:25

!info for Beta, we have:

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:07:26

!info 3 Accepted Blockers

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:07:26

!info 2 Proposed Blockers

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:07:31

!info 7 Accepted Freeze Exceptions

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:07:31

!info 2 Proposed Freeze Exceptions

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:07:34

!info for Final, we have:

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:07:43

!info 1 Accepted Blockers

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:07:43

!info 2 Proposed Blockers

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:07:54

who wants to secretarialize?

<@kparal:matrix.org>

17:08:59

I can do it, if there are no other volunteers 🙂

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:09:11

well there won't be now!

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:09:16

!info kparal will secretarialize

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:09:30

ok, let's get going with:

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:09:34

!topic Proposed Beta blockers

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:09:46

!info Proposed Blocker, anaconda-webui, ASSIGNED

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:09:46

!topic (2348726) Anaconda cannot control GNOME Shell keyboard layout in Live Workstation

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:09:46

!link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2348726

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:09:46

!link https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1770

<@lruzicka:matrix.org>

17:10:03

Kamil Páral++

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:10:05

lruzicka gave a cookie to kparal. They now have 79 cookies, 1 of which were obtained in the Fedora 41 release cycle

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:10:06

so AIUI, anaconda team has proposed this as a sort of procedural blocker because they already merged the fix for this, but it missed freeze, and they don't want to take it out again

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:10:15

i don't think it's a blocker, but i'm fine giving it an FE, fixing it for beta would be nice

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:10:32

and obviously can't be done with an update

<@lruzicka:matrix.org>

17:10:41

Sure, +1 FE

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:10:57

+1 FE

<@derekenz:fedora.im>

17:11:02

+1 FE

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

17:11:04

Yeah, it would be nice to have for Beta

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

17:11:07

BetaFE +1

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:11:50

formal votes on blocker status?

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:11:52

-1 blocker for me

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:11:54

+1 FE

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

17:12:00

BetaBlocker -1

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:12:15

do we not have a language selection criteria for beta?

<@kparal:matrix.org>

17:12:17

it feels wrong to block on this when we released like this in previous releases

<@kparal:matrix.org>

17:12:21

-1 blocker

<@kparal:matrix.org>

17:12:21

+1 FE

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:13:06

Conan Kudo the keyboard layout criteria are all final

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:13:13

ah okay

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:13:20

technically we can release beta with nothing but us working for anyone

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:13:21

+1 FinalBlocker

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:13:21

-1 BetaBlocker

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:13:29

technically we can release beta with nothing but US working for anyone

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:14:19

proposed !agreed 2348726 - RejectedBlocker (Beta) AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this is rejected as a blocker as it doesn't violate any Beta criteria, but accepted as an FE as we feel fixing this would be a great improvement for Beta and obviously cannot be done with an update

<@lruzicka:matrix.org>

17:14:19

-1 BetaBlocker

<@lruzicka:matrix.org>

17:14:33

ack

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

17:14:40

ack

<@derekenz:fedora.im>

17:14:44

ack

<@decathorpe:fedora.im>

17:14:46

ack

<@kparal:matrix.org>

17:14:48

ack

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:14:51

!agreed 2348726 - RejectedBlocker (Beta) AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this is rejected as a blocker as it doesn't violate any Beta criteria, but accepted as an FE as we feel fixing this would be a great improvement for Beta and obviously cannot be done with an update

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:15:25

!link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2346007

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:15:25

!link https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1754

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:15:25

!info Proposed Blocker, kwin, ON_QA

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:15:25

!info Ticket vote: BetaBlocker (+1,0,-3) (+ngompa, -nielsenb, -kparal, -geraldosimiao)

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:15:25

!info Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+5,0,-0) (+adamwill, +nielsenb, +derekenz, +ngompa, +lruzicka)

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:15:25

!info Ticket vote: BetaFreezeException (+5,0,-0) (+adamwill, +nielsenb, +derekenz, +ngompa, +lruzicka)

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:15:25

!topic (2346007) GCC with LTO miscompiles KWin and breaks using ICC profiles for color management

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:15:33

so, uh, i'm not sure where we are with this exactly

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:15:40

it's accepted as an FE, we never formally rejected it as a blocker

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:15:41

it's been worked around

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:15:52

so uhh, I guess fix'd?

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:15:55

if it's addressed for beta, can we close it? or drop the nominations?

<@decathorpe:fedora.im>

17:15:58

gcc 15 really doesn't like KDE huh? :D

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:16:08

gcc 15 also didn't like glib much either

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:16:20

it was an equal opportunity destructive force :)

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:16:42

but yes, with plasma 6.3.2 it should be able to be closed

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:17:06

(budgie is apparently not in a happy place right now because of gcc 15)

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:17:28

not sure how the other desktops are faring

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:19:34

!info per Conan Kudo this is substantively addressed for Beta. it will either be closed, or the blocker nomination will be unset

<@farribeiro:matrix.org>

17:19:42

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

17:19:44

Fábio Ribeiro (farribeiro) - he / him / his

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:19:53

hi!

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:19:56

ok, let's move on to:

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:20:01

!topic Proposed Beta freeze exceptions

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:20:07

!topic (2348463) Update Fedora 42 to Plasma 6.3.2

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:20:07

!info Proposed Freeze Exceptions, kwin, ON_QA

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:20:07

!link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2348463

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:20:07

!link https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1769

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:20:07

!info Ticket vote: BetaFreezeException (+4,0,-0) (+geraldosimiao, +ngompa, +nielsenb, +derekenz)

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:20:25

so this has +4 now, but i figured i'd leave it on the agenda just in case anyone had an issue as it's a big change

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:20:30

and we're fairly close to go/no-go now

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:20:52

this release contains all the currently known workarounds for gcc 15

<@kparal:matrix.org>

17:21:14

OT: does anyone know how to get a meetbot link for an in-progress meeting (this one), so that I can secretarialize immediately and not wait for this meeting to end?

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:21:26

I don't think that's a thing?

<@kparal:matrix.org>

17:21:43

it used to be, but now even meetbot-raw doesn't contain in-progress logs

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:21:51

huh TIL

<@lruzicka:matrix.org>

17:22:02

I am not sure. I did not vote during today because I was a little concerned about such a big change so close to the release.

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:22:32

Kamil Páral yeah, I haven't found a way either :/ it may be just a matrix vs. irc meetbot difference

<@matthiasc:gnome.org>

17:23:02

Conan Kudo: what was the glib issue?

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:23:14

it's been in u-t for four days with no negative karma, which is nice

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

17:23:19

We need it to fix the ICC issue, don't we?

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:23:24

and this is the update with the fix/workaround for the ICC issue, yeah

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:23:26

apparently there were some semi-random crashes affecting budgie rooted in glib

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:23:37

so i guess the resolution for that is only valid if we push this

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:23:44

I don't know the full details, you'd have to ask josh strobl in #budgie:fedoraproject.org

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:26:01

on the whole i'm in favor of taking this, given the four days of testing, i think

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:26:07

so +1 FE

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:26:19

+1 FE

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

17:26:25

BetaFE +1

<@boniboyblue:fedora.im>

17:26:42

BetaFE +1

<@decathorpe:fedora.im>

17:26:45

BetaFE +1

<@lruzicka:matrix.org>

17:27:09

BetaFE +1

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:28:41

proposed !agreed 2348463 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this is accepted as it's a bugfix release that includes some desirable fixes, and it's had four days of testing so far with positive feedback and no issues noted

<@lruzicka:matrix.org>

17:28:54

ack

<@derekenz:fedora.im>

17:28:57

ack

<@kparal:matrix.org>

17:29:04

ack

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

17:29:58

ack

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:30:22

!agreed 2348463 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this is accepted as it's a bugfix release that includes some desirable fixes, and it's had four days of testing so far with positive feedback and no issues noted

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:30:35

!info Ticket vote: BetaFreezeException (+1,0,-0) (+nielsenb)

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:30:35

!topic (2348737) Switch pypy3 default from 3.10 to 3.11

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:30:35

!link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2348737

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:30:35

!info Proposed Freeze Exceptions, pypy3.11, ON_QA

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:30:35

!link https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1771

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:31:02

eh, seems fine

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:31:20

if this is how miro wants classroom to be, i'm ok with it. don't see how it'll break anything else

<@kparal:matrix.org>

17:31:34

+1 FE

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:31:36

(i fully expect this log to appear in the incident review, once they're done finding all the tiny pieces)

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:31:55

+1 FE

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

17:32:02

BetaFE +1

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:32:02

+1 FE

<@derekenz:fedora.im>

17:32:03

+1 FE

<@lruzicka:matrix.org>

17:32:18

+1 FE

<@boniboyblue:fedora.im>

17:32:25

BetaFE +1

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:32:32

proposed !agreed 2348737 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this is accepted as a desired configuration change to a deliverable (so can't be done with an update) which looks like it can't break anything else

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:32:57

ack

<@farribeiro:matrix.org>

17:33:01

Ack

<@kparal:matrix.org>

17:33:01

ack

<@derekenz:fedora.im>

17:33:03

ack

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

17:33:03

ack

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:33:32

!agreed 2348737 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this is accepted as a desired configuration change to a deliverable (so can't be done with an update) which looks like it can't break anything else

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:33:55

alright, looks like that's all the proposals

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:34:03

for beta

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:34:05

so let's go to:

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:34:09

!topic Proposed Final blockers

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:34:19

!info Proposed Blocker, anaconda-webui, POST, depends on other bugs

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:34:19

!topic (2282112) Clicking on "Anaconda project page" link in about window results in unclosable window opened over the installer

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:34:19

!link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2282112

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:34:19

!info Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+1,0,-1) (+asciiwolf, -nielsenb)

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:34:19

!link https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1660

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:35:51

the fix for this was merged in november

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:35:54

so it may well be fixed

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:36:32

although, seems like it still wasn't perfect after that...let me see if i can find any followup

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:37:56

propose we punt this to re-test and update for current status?

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

17:38:45

I would be okay with a punt, I keep forgetting to try it

<@derekenz:fedora.im>

17:38:54

punt

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:39:44

proposed !agreed 2282112 - punt (delay decision) - this behaviour has likely changed since the bug was reported, so we'll update the bug with current status then re-consider it

<@kparal:matrix.org>

17:39:49

it's fixed now. It's just a bit scary when the installer asks you whether you want to stay on this page or leave this page.

<@lruzicka:matrix.org>

17:39:55

ack

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

17:40:00

ack

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:40:02

ack

<@derekenz:fedora.im>

17:40:02

ack

<@kparal:matrix.org>

17:40:21

but not a blocker either way, at least for me

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

17:40:23

Can you go back easy enough?

<@kparal:matrix.org>

17:40:44

yes, a new firefox window is opened, you can close it as normal

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:40:49

ok, given kparal's report, i'm -1 blocker

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:41:01

can you add a quick comment on the bug, kamil?

<@kparal:matrix.org>

17:41:11

sure

<@derekenz:fedora.im>

17:42:18

Scary?

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:42:18

other votes?

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

17:42:34

If we're relitigating it right now...

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

17:42:38

FinalBlocker -1

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

17:43:09

I can see how an installer asking you if you want to leave is a little disconcerting

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

17:43:19

Especially since the installer isn't obviously a browser

<@kparal:matrix.org>

17:43:33

https://i.imgur.com/hyIsGMf.png

<@kparal:matrix.org>

17:44:02

(btw I just closed the bug as fixed)

<@derekenz:fedora.im>

17:44:13

hmmm that is strange lol

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:44:23

oof

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:44:31

i think i'm ok with it for this kinda out-of-the-way thing

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:44:46

it'd be best if it didn't happen of course

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:47:02

!info the bug has been closed as FIXED for now, if anyone thinks the remaining state constitutes a blocker, please file a new bug and propose it

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:47:12

!info Proposed Blocker, gnome-keyring, POST

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:47:12

!link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2349314

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:47:12

!info Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+2,0,-0) (+nielsenb, +boniboyblue)

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:47:12

!link https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1774

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:47:12

!topic (2349314) Keyring fails to unlock on startup

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:47:28

so this is some kinda race condition. it's annoying and inconvenient when it happens

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:47:46

there is a proposed fix upstream that does fix the issue for me (openqa often hits this), but it hasn't been merged yet, not sure why not

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:48:45

Brandon Nielsen so one thing I never tested with this: when you get the prompt, does it *work*?

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:48:54

if you type in your password, does the keyring unlock and work as normal?

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

17:49:01

I have been unable to find anything the prompt will accept

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:49:10

ooo. that definitely makes it worse

<@decathorpe:fedora.im>

17:49:21

this would annoy the hell out of me too, so FinalBlocker +1 from my POV :D

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:49:32

yeah that's pretty bad

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:49:38

I'd FinalBlocker +1 that

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

17:49:50

Esepcially since I don't know how you ever fix it? I haven't found a workaround.

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:50:04

I'm not sure you can fix it in that situation

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:50:13

yeah, on that basis i'd be +1

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:50:23

not being able to unlock the keyring is seriously a problem since network creds and other things are stored there by default

<@derekenz:fedora.im>

17:50:26

FinalBlocker +1

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:50:55

Brandon Nielsen after the meeting i'll do a scratch build with the upstream patch and you can see if it works for you

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

17:50:57

If you look at the log, there's a message about unable to set locker password or something

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

17:51:14

I assume that means it's a forever borked lockring

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

17:51:18

er, keyring

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:52:06

Brandon Nielsen https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=129152704 is the scratch build i did to test it, but not sure if that's usable for you now

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

17:52:51

Presumably I would need that installed before initial setup?

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:53:34

if it's in a side-tag, it's possible to make an off-the-cuff image to test with

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:53:52

since side tags are yum repos, kiwi can be told to add it via command line

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:54:20

Brandon Nielsen oh, if the thing you're testing is during i-s, yeah

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:54:22

or createrepo in a fedorapeople place or something

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:54:49

i'd just install it with chroot after your initial install is done

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

17:55:01

I think the keyring gets created during initial setup

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:55:03

if you leave the installer open, the installed system is at /mnt/sysimage

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

17:55:08

I suppose I could install that, then try creating a new user

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:55:21

well yeah, if the bug is sort of 'inside' the keyring and not in the unlocking process at boot\

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:55:33

that, too

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:56:11

well yeah, if the bug is sort of 'inside' the keyring and not in the unlocking process at boot

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:56:13

if the bug comes from g-i-s user setup

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:56:18

it needs to be before a user is created

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

17:56:53

Post that build in one of the bug reports, I'll try to get it tested soon-ish

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:57:14

to me, the fix looks like it's runtime

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:57:15

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-keyring/-/merge_requests/78/diffs

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:57:30

so you might just be able to install the update, reboot and try it again

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

17:57:51

I can try all the things if I can just find some time

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:58:01

hehe, ok

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:58:05

will do

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

17:59:52

proposed !agreed 2349314 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is accepted as a conditional violation of Final criterion "Saving passwords to and retrieving passwords from the default keyring must work for all release-blocking desktops", since if you run into this bug, there appears to be no way to make that work in practice.

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

17:59:58

ack

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

18:00:02

ack

<@decathorpe:fedora.im>

18:00:32

ack

<@lruzicka:matrix.org>

18:00:45

ack

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:01:31

!agreed 2349314 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is accepted as a conditional violation of Final criterion "Saving passwords to and retrieving passwords from the default keyring must work for all release-blocking desktops", since if you run into this bug, there appears to be no way to make that work in practice.

<@kparal:matrix.org>

18:01:32

ack

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

18:02:17

ack

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

18:02:23

lolwut

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

18:02:26

wrong room

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:02:39

heh

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:02:43

ok, let's move on to:

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:02:49

!topic Accepted Beta blockers

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:03:02

as a reminder, this is where we check in on progress, we're not usually voting on these (unless we decide circumstances warrant it)

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:03:11

!link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2346436

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:03:11

!info Accepted Blocker, anaconda, POST

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:03:11

!link https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1758

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:03:11

!topic (2346436) "EFI System Partition" does not show in available filesystems for custom installs since blivet 3.12.0

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:03:23

!info this should be fixed in the anaconda build that should happen now we voted on the other proposal

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:04:13

!link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2342065

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:04:13

!link https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1747

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:04:13

!info Accepted Blocker, gcc, ON_QA

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:04:13

!topic (2342065) Broken support for C++ coroutines in GCC 15 breaks qcoro, which breaks Plasma Discover

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:04:27

!info this is addressed by the 6.3.2 megaupdate, which will get pushed now we approved the FE for it

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:04:32

ok, those were the easy ones...

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:04:38

!link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2344434

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:04:38

!topic (2344434) Cannot install to a software RAID device created in the storage editor as it's impossible to assign the root mount point successfully

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:04:38

!link https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1751

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:04:38

!info Accepted Blocker, anaconda-webui, ASSIGNED

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:05:00

so...i think we may not have a fix for this yet, but katerina is off today so i don't have a definite status update

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:05:09

per the bug discussion, it's possible i was holding RAID wrong

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:05:29

so...we may want to revisit this at some point

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:05:36

might be nice if other folks can try doing sw RAID with webui

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:08:34

!info we may not have a fix for this in the new anaconda build, but we should also re-test different ways of setting up software RAID and possibly reconsider the blocker status

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:10:34

any other notes?

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:11:25

!topic Open floor

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:11:33

anything else at all? :D

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

18:11:43

Nothing from me

<@kparal:matrix.org>

18:11:52

everyone's asleep already 😉

<@decathorpe:fedora.im>

18:12:09

so ... is this beta going to be the first release with Anaconda Web UI by default?

<@decathorpe:fedora.im>

18:12:20

(at least for Workstation?)

<@decathorpe:fedora.im>

18:13:34

just because I'm hoping that there's not going to be a flood of bug reports when the beta releases :D

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:15:20

yes, that's the plan

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:15:27

and we await the result with interest :D

<@decathorpe:fedora.im>

18:15:34

me too ...

<@decathorpe:fedora.im>

18:15:48

(I did an install from a nightly F42 image in a VM a few days ago, and parts of the custom partitioning UI are ... very strange, and the fact that anaconda now seems to format the disks and partitions you set up *twice* is weird too - once on the "no-backsies!" custom partitioning screen and once at the start of the actual install)

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:16:29

yeah, i can see why that happens but it'd be nice if it could be avoided by having the install phase realize the webui partitioner already did it

<@decathorpe:fedora.im>

18:17:28

it also took me painfully long to find the custom partitioning option, hidden behind the very inconspicuous Hamburger menu in the corner ...

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

18:18:22

I think you can guess why it's hidden now

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:18:42

that's kinda by design, as the *idea* is to try and avoid the need for it as far as possible - there are meant to be more powerful guided options now, like the 'replace current install' option

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:19:04

i love watching the lifecycle of the installer developer

<@decathorpe:fedora.im>

18:19:15

I get that, but I never liked the defaults 😆

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:19:16

when they're newly hatched they're all so endearingly optimistic

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

18:19:28

😆

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:19:56

Fabio Valentini also, the 'do your partitioning with whatever tool you like, then assign the mount points in the installer' workflow is intended to be commonly used

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:20:22

though that comes with the rather large gotcha that you have to know exactly what bootloader-related partitions you need to set up

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:20:46

Fabio Valentini also, the 'do your partitioning with whatever tool you like, then assign the mount points in the installer' workflow is intended to be commonly used for partition pokemons (that's what we call people like you :>)

<@decathorpe:fedora.im>

18:20:58

lol

<@decathorpe:fedora.im>

18:20:58

<@decathorpe:fedora.im>

18:20:58

> partition pokemons

<@decathorpe:fedora.im>

18:21:33

to be fair, I looked like the new advanced UI did *some* validation of what I set up before accepting it

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:22:07

yeah, being able to do that is one of the reasons the initial 'let's have no custom UI in the installer, just the mount point selection flow' didn't work out

<@decathorpe:fedora.im>

18:22:24

also, my setup is not *that* strange ... just btrfs subvolumes for / and /home instead of just / at btrfs root

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:22:57

everyone has their own one little thing they want to do

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:23:02

it's the software tragedy

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

18:23:05

wait what

<@decathorpe:fedora.im>

18:23:10

I didn't have to do that for the F42 test VM, but was curious whether the new WebUI supported that :D

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:23:11

if i was making an installer it'd have a GO button

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

18:23:11

this is supposed to be the default

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:23:15

...that's all

<@decathorpe:fedora.im>

18:23:23

it is? 👀

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:23:26

i think the default still varies based on disk size

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:23:42

if there's more than...I wanna say it's 50GB?...of space, you get separate /home

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:23:54

if there's less than that, you just get root

<@nielsenb:fedora.im>

18:23:54

"YOLO"

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:24:02

i *think* that code got kept even with btrfs

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

18:24:16

that's... unexpected

<@decathorpe:fedora.im>

18:24:18

oh that would make sense. I give my VMs only 20 gigs of disk

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:24:22

though it's arguably a bit obsolete with btrfs subvolumes? the main worry was that splitting them up would have space issues

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

18:24:27

right

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

18:24:37

probably worth filing a bug report to remove that filter for btrfs

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:24:39

check that, though, i'm just tlaking off the top of my head here

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:25:05

anyhoo, seems like the meeting is over

<@adamwill:fedora.im>

18:25:08

!endmeeting