01:00:00 #startmeeting FAmNA 01:00:00 Meeting started Wed May 9 01:00:00 2012 UTC. The chair is inode0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:00:00 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 01:00:02 #meetingname FAmNA 01:00:02 The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 01:00:11 yay!!!!!!! 01:00:12 #chair rbergeron nb 01:00:12 Current chairs: inode0 nb rbergeron 01:00:18 hey! nice chair yo 01:00:21 #topic Roll Call 01:00:30 * rbergeron is present 01:00:51 mario juliano grande balletta ( chanchito ) is present 01:00:52 * herlo is here 01:01:01 #chair chanchito graphite6 herlo 01:01:01 Current chairs: chanchito graphite6 herlo inode0 nb rbergeron 01:01:17 * herlo already has a chair, thank you :) 01:01:25 * kk4ewt 01:01:28 * graphite6 here and stirring pasta 01:02:01 * StabbyMc_ says YO! 01:02:02 #chair kk4ewt 01:02:02 Current chairs: chanchito graphite6 herlo inode0 kk4ewt nb rbergeron 01:02:09 #chair kk4ewt StabbyMc_ 01:02:09 Current chairs: StabbyMc_ chanchito graphite6 herlo inode0 kk4ewt nb rbergeron 01:02:16 #topic Announcements 01:02:28 * nb says hello 01:02:39 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections 01:03:11 Nominations for the elections are now open, please consider running and encouraging those you would like to see run to consider running as well. 01:04:33 inode0: where does one edit on the wiki? 01:04:51 oh crap, I had a question for the questionaire, can we still add to that page till midnight? 01:05:39 go ahead, we'll see what the questionnaire guy says but there aren't many questions so I think it will be ok 01:05:52 herlo: click the edit button :) 01:05:53 gotcha 01:06:12 inode0: on the Elections page? 01:06:21 * Sonar_Gal sneaks in 01:06:29 no, on the nominations page for the election you are thinking about 01:06:30 * rbergeron waves to Sonar_Gal 01:06:37 inode0: exactly, where is that? 01:06:44 links are at the top of the elections page 01:06:50 ahh, there we go. Thanks 01:07:18 evening rbergeron 01:07:20 #chair Sonar_Gal 01:07:20 Current chairs: Sonar_Gal StabbyMc_ chanchito graphite6 herlo inode0 kk4ewt nb rbergeron 01:07:33 Any other announcements? 01:08:14 #topic Tickets 01:08:20 not too many for tonight ... 01:08:28 #link https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9 01:08:44 .famnaticket 11 01:08:46 inode0: #11 (LinuxFest Northwest 2012, Apr 28-29, Bellingham, WA) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/11 01:08:54 #info #11 (LinuxFest Northwest 2012, Apr 28-29, Bellingham, WA) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/11 01:08:56 * rbergeron owes a trip report on this one. :) 01:09:27 * inode0 requested links from Jeff too in the ticket, will close the ticket as soon as someone adds a report :) 01:09:41 Also: The tablecloth came out beautifully clean, and i believe it is still in jsandys' hands. 01:09:58 We might think about how to get it back in the event box, with stuff in the event box, in the hands of someone who can send it around. 01:10:17 food for thought i suppose :) 01:10:29 do we have anyone in mind? 01:10:51 not offhand. it would be me and I'm just a bad bad bad choice for shipping duties right now. 01:11:20 rbergeron is triple bad :D 01:11:23 but we need to figure out how to keep the box stocked and tablecloth clean. 01:11:26 I am. 01:11:30 I'm triple B. 01:11:30 :) 01:11:38 wait, that sounds just wrong. I'm going to move along now. :) 01:11:43 lol 01:12:03 we used to do this very well. I think the process has just broken down a little 01:12:07 * rbergeron asserts her dignity and looks around for any suggestions 01:12:10 herlo: yeah 01:12:11 i took the tablecloth to the laundromat, and used citris cleanser/degreaser for the stains, and then fabreeze 01:12:27 chanchito: different tablecloth 01:12:28 part of the problem in my mind is that we probably need a tablecloth for at least the west and east coast eventboxen 01:12:31 when it arrived, it had several stains, (coffee, etc) 01:12:46 herlo: don't they all have tablecloths? 01:12:46 we could use a banner for behind the tables 01:12:59 we have two 01:12:59 herlo thats where they are suppose to be 01:13:02 rbergeron: I don't know. They didn't at first. 01:13:13 they do. I think we actually have 3 tablecloths here. 01:13:17 sounds like it just needs to be in the right places 01:13:24 chanchito: thats why we have the Vertical banners 01:13:27 herlo: it's just that the tablecloth got lent from the west coast box to elsewhere and then was dirty. 01:13:30 but sometimes the tablecloth goes where the event box doesn't and they lose contact with each other 01:13:33 (since SCALE.) 01:13:40 i only saw the verical banners at fudcon 01:13:43 maybe that shouldn't happen inode0 ?? 01:13:48 as a rule anyway 01:13:56 chanchito: you didnt get the Vbanners? 01:14:00 or it could go with the vertical banners 01:14:01 the tablecloth is nice even for small events 01:14:02 in the event box i received, the tablecloth does fit smoothly 01:14:12 no, i never got the vertical banners 01:14:17 inode0: I agree 01:14:22 it should probably find its way home though 01:14:27 you can see from the pictures i posted at chanchito.blog.com 01:14:30 sorry i late fold=ks 01:14:31 crap i wished i had known that 2 months ago 01:14:44 chanchito: i shipped them to you 01:14:58 okay, inode0: before the meeting totally falls off the rails 01:15:01 now i have harvard business school coming up, plus a presentation at two other campuses in june 01:15:06 do we want to move onto next ticket 01:15:13 * herlo apologizes for derailing a little 01:15:18 herlo: no biggy 01:15:30 sorry kk4ewt, i never received them 01:15:30 I think we just need to maybe have "reassess event box situation" as a separate topic 01:15:33 * inode0 thinks missing vertical banners are a serious issue 01:15:42 chanchito: and we have SELF the first of june 01:15:47 and tackle the vertical banners as well 01:16:07 yeah i would have loved to have been able to set then up and use them and improve the display 01:16:14 #action Find the vertical banners before SELF :) 01:16:23 kk4ewt: do you have a tracking # from then? 01:16:37 don't we have multiple vertical banners or did we never pony up for that? 01:16:42 nope 01:16:43 rbergeron: i will have to dig back i think i put both on the ticket 01:16:58 yes we have 2 sets of vbanners 01:17:05 where is the other set? 01:17:07 oh, I didn't recall that 01:17:08 one east coast and one west coast 01:17:14 * rbergeron guesses with markdude as well 01:17:55 ok, now that the right people know stuff is lost we'll get it sorted out 01:18:04 .famnaticket 33 01:18:05 good 01:18:06 inode0: #33 (2012 Fedora Merchandise Order) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/33 01:18:13 #info #33 (2012 Fedora Merchandise Order) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/33 01:18:51 If we could note in the ticket when and what is ordered that would be swell 01:19:25 nb has ordered the case badges? 01:19:28 Can we note in the ticket what was approved so that the person who is ordering or paying for stuff isn't confused about what he or she should be doing 01:19:51 inode0: I believe he has, yes. dgilmore is paying for them. 01:19:54 would be easier if we had a log of the meeting where we did that :) 01:20:07 was that last week? 01:20:10 or week before 01:20:14 yeah, both 01:20:16 or did zodbot poop out 01:20:27 zodbot died last week 01:20:43 inode0: nb said earlier today that dgilmore got it taken care of with lustrecal today. 01:20:50 we can reconstruct it now 01:20:56 nb: what did you order? 01:21:01 so we probably just need to follow up and get a final price/understanding of what was ordered. 01:21:21 StabbyMc_: let's get your order on the record here again 01:21:32 50k stickers for $2800? 01:21:42 5k pens for $2050? 01:21:47 inode0: looking up the invoice for stickers. 01:21:53 5K pens for 2050 01:21:54 StabbyMc_: stickers are FREE. 01:22:07 all 30k of them. 01:22:12 yeah, they came in under our allocated budget :) 01:22:16 oh 01:22:17 sorry 01:22:33 WTF? how are stickers free 01:22:36 * nb confused 01:22:41 Red Hat paid for them 01:22:47 nb: just notice the brown coloring at the end of my nose 01:23:08 inode0: 50K of stickers for $2915, incl. shipping 01:23:09 I ordered 10,000 case badges for $2,000 plus ground shipping 01:23:15 graphite6: you you remind us what we approved for buttons too? 01:23:25 so they were all paid for out of $otherbudget? not out of commarch? 01:23:29 nb: correct 01:23:30 * nb is happy 01:23:32 all 50k 01:23:39 no strings attached 01:23:39 StabbyMc_: does the $2050 include shipping? 01:23:50 inode0: yes, that's an all-inclusive number. 01:23:51 so we will get our 30k, and they'll get 20k. 01:24:06 500 beefy Miracle buttons for about $150 and 1500 fedora buttons for about $300 01:24:09 The case badges will be shipped on 5/11/2012 01:24:10 StabbyMc_: send me details about who to contact to take care of the pens 01:24:12 Actually, stabby is getting all 50k, and sending 20k elsewhere. :) 01:24:12 rbergeron: meaning FAmbNA gets 30K, and RH gets 20K. 01:24:22 to nb, and nb will ship to otherpeople 01:24:26 * graphite6 is digging through her logs of last meeting 01:24:36 StabbyMc_: yes. 01:24:38 StabbyMc_: we are sharing some with other regions 01:24:42 sorry, that was unclear :) 01:25:00 * kk4ewt tracking # for vbanners to mario 01:25:01 graphite6: that is close enough 01:25:13 * kk4ewt event banners tracking # 1Z9W2V650392746107 01:25:26 so, case badges are ordered 01:25:33 are the stickers ordered? 01:25:38 inode0: yes they are 01:25:46 inode0: invoice for pens is heading your way. 01:25:52 no eta on shipping but the person who paid for them is happy to do that. 01:25:55 ok, StabbyMc_ and I will get the pens ordered tomorrow probably 01:25:58 I should get her to like, be an ambassador or something. 01:26:05 lol 01:26:24 so we are down to buttons 01:26:40 * graphite6 feels eyes on her :) 01:26:56 I just started the beefy button an hour ago 01:27:19 the good news is purebuttons is really fast usually 01:27:24 * rbergeron nods 01:27:26 here is the link to a very rough draft https://fedorahosted.org/famna/attachment/ticket/32/hotsnap.png 01:27:30 that tracking # says 01:27:30 Delivered On: 01:27:30 03/06/2012 1:09 P.M. 01:27:30 Delivered To: 01:27:31 JOHNSTON, RI, US 01:27:31 Signed By: 01:27:32 BALLETTO 01:27:42 * rbergeron has something related to beefybuttons to bring up WRT SELF 01:28:34 * inode0 likes the button but would like a colored background 01:28:37 I'll have the button design done tomorrow afternoon for you guys to approve 01:28:48 will swap in some backgrounds 01:28:48 inode0: i think he has a yellow glow behind him 01:28:58 he does but it is very faint 01:29:01 it is indeed 01:29:02 yeah my last name is grande balletta 01:29:04 he's SO CUTE though 01:29:07 with an "A" 01:29:08 lol 01:29:14 * rbergeron loves some beefy 01:29:26 and i dont see an address in the proof of delivery 01:29:29 sorry I've been so slow getting the design done :( 01:29:42 at the end of my street, there is a real estate agent last name balletto 01:29:46 so we just need to find this balletto person and get them back from him :) 01:29:50 i will ring their doorbell and ask 01:30:04 ooh ok 01:30:08 frigging UPS 01:30:18 unbelievable 01:30:25 sort of rude to not return them 01:30:35 is that all of hte buttons? 01:30:40 I thought there were other buttons as well 01:30:47 like regular F buttons 01:30:52 the regular buttons are canned 01:31:01 they are? 01:31:01 just need to order them 01:31:04 canned? 01:31:11 oh, you mean like the design is already made 01:31:16 you have a graphic for them 01:31:18 oh, you mean already designed :) 01:31:21 * nb thinks some people thought you meant canned as in not going to be done 01:31:29 in the can 01:31:30 :) 01:31:35 yeah that was what i tohught you meant, not being done 01:31:35 yes, I do have the graphics and will be placing that order too :) 01:31:54 graphite6: is your sig0 able to do that on his card and transfer around, or do you need some help with that detail? 01:32:00 I meant no real work for those beyond ordering them 01:32:10 * rbergeron can't remember if you got that figured out or not 01:32:20 I can use the RH card if I've got a $1000 to order 01:32:27 which I don't at the moment 01:32:31 sig0 == significant other 01:32:41 or graphite6 could order pens or something too maybe? 01:32:41 oh, i figured the larger button order would come out to be that much 01:32:50 or does inode0 have enough money on community card 01:32:52 it was about 400 01:33:06 buttons are cheap 01:33:15 * inode0 can't tell what shipping charges will fall on his so can't say really 01:33:29 I can buy anything anybody wants me too :D 01:33:57 if you just want another $2050 that can be arranged :) 01:34:07 inode0: sure 01:34:23 ok, I'll forward the pen order to you 01:34:46 #action graphite6 will also place the pen order 01:34:51 let's move on to rbergeron's new item 01:35:22 nb: now I have plenty of room 01:35:38 inode0, :) 01:36:16 rbergeron: still with us? 01:36:36 i am now 01:36:41 sorry 01:36:44 I was trying to locate fire 01:36:56 which i did 01:37:13 okay, so: I was thinking that maybe a giant standup cutout beefy miracle might be cool to have your photo taken ith at SELF. 01:37:38 (and at Red Hat summit, so I might try and work the charges to that end of things, but wasn't sure how people would feel about a stand-up beefy.) 01:38:06 * nb likes the idea 01:38:19 yeah, that is nice 01:38:22 * nb thinks we should have a small beefy on our media too, but it looks like that's kinda been nixed by design team 01:38:25 Maybe at an evening party or something. 01:38:37 dance with me Beefy 01:38:43 yes. 01:39:43 rbergeron: I'll be coming with all my camera equipement and lighting, we can make miraculous movies at summit 01:39:52 * inode0 thinks there should be FPL bobbleheads too but that is another issue 01:39:55 Also: I have some BM stickers (a small quantity, probably less than 200) and was trying to figure out if there is someone who might be willing to volunteer to do a SASE thing for those. :) 01:40:28 inode0: LOL 01:40:30 * graphite6 wants an FPL bobble head 01:40:34 i will buy the one of max 01:40:35 what is SASE 01:40:50 self-addressed stamped envelope 01:41:04 * graphite6 smacks self in forehead 01:41:08 duh 01:41:23 (and before anyone asks, those did not come out of the regional budget) 01:41:33 rbergeron, /me guesses he could volunteer 01:41:58 nb: ship me your mailing address unless someone else pipes up 01:42:01 * inode0 thinks it is really best if the contact place is a Red Hat address 01:42:03 ok 01:42:13 okay, i will bribe spot or perhaps ruth 01:42:33 meh, either way, i have a PO box, so i'm not too concerned with my address being public, but i'd be fine with someone else doing it. 01:42:46 less work :) 01:42:46 that is fine then 01:43:04 rbergeron: you could send them to me at the ATL office. 01:43:46 Oh, speaking of SELF, IDK, do I need a formal vote to say that I can have 3 nights hotel instead of 2? 01:43:46 * inode0 is about to move on to SELF 01:43:52 or is that just "reasonable difference" type of thing 01:43:55 hang on 01:44:04 k 01:44:12 .famnaticket 32 01:44:15 inode0: #32 (SELF Brainstorming) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/32 01:44:20 not the right ticket 01:44:30 #action rbergeron to investigate a standup beefy miracle for picture taking 01:44:46 .famnaticket 21 01:44:47 inode0: #21 (SouthEast LinuxFest 2012, Jun 8-10, Charlotte, NC) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/21 01:44:58 #info #32 (SELF Brainstorming) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/32 01:45:10 #info #21 (SouthEast LinuxFest 2012, Jun 8-10, Charlotte, NC) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/21 01:45:24 we'll merge all SELF stuff into now 01:45:29 * rbergeron raps on zodbot's head 01:46:32 #info Fedora Amateur Radio SIG will be offering Amateur Radio license exams @ SELF on Sunday, from 10am-1pm 01:47:01 so, nb needs an extra night at the hotel - inode0 moves to fund that without objection 01:47:06 +1 01:47:08 +1 01:47:12 +1 01:47:16 +1 01:47:17 please update the budget on the wiki to reflect reality 01:48:06 ok 01:49:04 * rbergeron notes nb's flight has been purchased 01:49:07 anything else for SELF? 01:49:26 not from me, just looking forward to attending 01:50:13 ok, inode0 can't wait for SELF 01:50:47 #topic Open Floor 01:50:54 10 minutes remain for mayhem 01:51:10 party over here...party over there 01:51:16 get down tonight 01:51:27 sorry, way tooooo much sugar 01:51:34 and we are working on the Vbanner issues 01:52:06 kk4ewt, will talk to you in -hams in a few minutes 01:52:40 nb: I'll see you at SELF :) 01:52:45 See you all next week!!!!! 01:52:52 * rbergeron notes that if you haven't gotten a room you should do so very soon 01:53:00 the room bookin ghas been fixed - they were sold out for a while 01:53:17 So I guess I have one or two things we keep forgetting 01:53:25 (1) raffle prizes 01:53:37 (2) forgot it again 01:54:27 * graphite6 is jealous of the SELF attendees...she has to put on a dress and behave at a wedding that weekend :( 01:55:02 and one SELF thing - is there room for a collection bin (approx. 2'x 4' (4' tall)) near the booth for the food drive? 01:55:41 inode0, i tried to get pi's, but we are still working on that....... they are hard to come by 01:55:51 inode0, i'm planning on jumping on it as soon as I find out we can order 01:56:03 http://instagr.am/p/KY2Ebiu99m/ 01:56:13 * inode0 is open to prizes other than pis too 01:56:16 inode0: i'll ask jeremy 01:57:30 rbergeron: sweet! 01:58:05 figuring out how to get the word out before SELF about the food drive is a challenge but might help 01:58:25 rbergeron, jeremy is around in #southeastlinuxfest 01:58:27 and someone with a vehicle will likely need to run me to a store :) 01:58:28 inode0: I also have on my plate an item to see if Red Hat is willing ot do a matching thing or do a nice press blog about it. 01:58:30 * nb just talked to him about the ham exams 01:58:54 will Self roll it on their webpage? 01:59:05 cause there need to be beanie weenies 01:59:23 graphite6: i am sure i can get them to 01:59:29 nb: i just harassed him in #self-offtopic 01:59:35 rbergeron, oh ok 01:59:40 * nb didn't know about that channel :) 02:00:01 ok, going to end this now 02:00:12 thanks again everyone for helping 02:00:16 #endmeeting