01:00:06 <inode0> #startmeeting FAmNA 01:00:06 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Jun 20 01:00:06 2012 UTC. The chair is inode0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:00:06 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 01:00:08 <inode0> #meetingname FAmNA 01:00:08 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 01:00:15 <inode0> #chair rbergeron 01:00:15 <zodbot> Current chairs: inode0 rbergeron 01:00:17 <rbergeron> yay meeting 01:00:22 <inode0> #topic Roll Call 01:00:26 * ianweller 01:00:40 <award3535> kk4ewt its on the pdf report unless you want all them on another link 01:01:19 <graphite6> is here but dazed 01:01:20 * kk4ewt 01:01:22 <chanchito> present! greetings 01:01:26 <award3535> here 01:01:45 <inode0> #topic Announcements 01:02:37 <suehle> rbergeron: She did not. 01:02:57 <award3535> to everyone, I had a fantastic time at self and wish to thank you all 01:03:03 <inode0> It is finally over and done with! 01:03:15 <inode0> End of announcements from inode0 01:03:27 <graphite6> I'm at UberConf, going to go listen to keynote about how the languages we choose create the problems in the future, :D 01:03:39 <graphite6> after this meeting that is 01:03:50 <nb> Announcement: Apparently I won the Fedora Board runoff 01:04:12 <award3535> great job! 01:04:20 <chanchito> Congratulations! 01:04:32 * rbergeron will be sending out an announcement as soon as she can see straight 01:04:39 <rbergeron> and not screwing up the announcement 01:04:42 <graphite6> Congrats nb! 01:05:47 <inode0> ok, let's not forget to reconsider having a plan for dealing with this situation in the future 01:06:11 <inode0> #topic Tickets 01:06:34 <inode0> .famna ticket 37 01:06:44 <inode0> .famnaticket 37 01:06:45 <zodbot> inode0: #37 (Proposal for distributing Fedora swag outside of conferences/events) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/37 01:06:53 <ianweller> hi 01:06:56 * inode0 is in the middle of a very bad day, sorry 01:07:09 <ianweller> i just posted that so read through it if you like 01:07:16 <inode0> #info #37 (Proposal for distributing Fedora swag outside of conferences/events) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/37 01:07:30 <inode0> #topic Proposal for distributing Fedora swag outside of conferences/events 01:07:32 <nb> interesting 01:07:55 <ianweller> the target audience for this is mostly non-fedora contributors, but people who still want fedora stuff 01:08:07 * inode0 likes spot's "Thank You" system :P 01:08:17 <nb> inode0, i do too 01:08:25 <chanchito> i do have several user groups that email me about asking for swag, leftovers, etc 01:08:27 <ianweller> i also thought it would be a good idea to roll in the SASE system for smaller items 01:08:35 <ianweller> like stickers, maybe pens 01:08:59 <inode0> define non-fedora contributors please? 01:09:18 * MarkDude has given such swag to non-Fedorans, only to have them a year later interested. Not to mention some I now have as manatees 01:09:19 <award3535> so does this include a tracking system such as the free media ? 01:09:23 <ianweller> people who aren't fedora contributors. (of course defining "fedora contributors" is nuts) 01:09:40 <MarkDude> *potential contribs* 01:09:51 <nb> yeah, i've even shipped swag to people a few times (well, but that was mainy fedora contributors that just weren't ambassadors) 01:09:51 <inode0> why do I want to give them swag when contributors want it too and aren't getting it? 01:09:51 <ianweller> award3535: i was planning on coming up with a small website to throw onto openshift to have people request something, then upload the shipping label or whatever 01:10:06 * nb wonders how they would make a shipping label 01:10:08 <ianweller> inode0: i'm not saying they can't get it. i was just defining my initial target audience in my head. 01:10:18 <nb> idk, does usps.com let you save it as a pdf? 01:10:20 <inode0> they can't get it now I mean 01:10:26 <ianweller> nb: that's a problem that i'm still working on figuring out. 01:10:31 <ianweller> inode0: but they could with this? 01:10:36 * MarkDude has marketed it as *being part of Fedora means not having to pay for all your media out of pocket 01:10:42 <inode0> but you said it wasn't for them?! 01:10:43 <ianweller> nb: you can print to a PDF with fedora, at least... 01:10:47 <rbergeron> ianweller: i think it's the problem that "we don't spend money on 1 zillion shirts" 01:10:48 <nb> ianweller, true 01:10:51 <inode0> or did I misunderstand 01:10:56 <ianweller> inode0: you misunderstood. 01:11:01 <ianweller> or perhaps i misspoke. 01:11:01 <nb> since usps.com doesn't require crazy printer drivers like the other online postage things do 01:11:25 <inode0> "the target audience for this is mostly non-fedora contributors" 01:11:27 <rbergeron> let's see if we can figure out if it's a good idea before we bikeshed the solutoin 01:11:33 <rbergeron> :D 01:11:37 <inode0> yes 01:12:01 <ianweller> inode0: in my mind that's still the main target audience. but it's not exclusive. 01:12:11 * MarkDude suggests their be a potential payoff vs cost. Giving out a few pens and stickers at gamer parties, 01:12:13 <ianweller> if you have an address and are willing to pay for the shipping i don't care who youa re 01:12:23 <award3535> But I am a contributor and pay for distribution on the free media side as a volunteer so where does this lead to 01:12:28 <rbergeron> ianweller: i think the concern is that we don't have the budget to actually buy that stuff for contributors, let alone non-contributors 01:12:46 * MarkDude thinks an envelope for 1st timers- to limit costs, after you give out- and take pics- maybe more stuff 01:12:47 <rbergeron> stickers, yes; tee shirts, not so much 01:13:02 <chanchito> allow people to use fedora artwork, with permission and print their own materials, t-shirts 01:13:03 <MarkDude> Work for it to get more than an envelope 01:13:07 <ianweller> MarkDude: requiring them to be ambassadors with the stuff is not within the scope of this proposal. 01:13:14 <award3535> rbergeron: that is such a true statement, budget 01:13:24 <ianweller> chanchito: we already do that, and i run logo@fp.o, and people don't ask that often 01:14:01 <chanchito> i will 01:14:02 <MarkDude> ianweller, understood. Just more usggesting how to best spend $ vs potential interst. As well as that the F is NOT for Facebook :D 01:14:22 <nb> I don't know that we could really do this proposal with T-shirts 01:14:31 <nb> stickers, pens, case badges, yeah probably would work 01:14:41 <rbergeron> ianweller: what if we limited it to actual contributors and so forth for a start? 01:14:49 <award3535> \i agree on no t shirts but stickers and such\ 01:14:50 <ianweller> rbergeron: i would be fine with that 01:14:53 <rbergeron> The thing is - if people are required to pay for their shipping - it makes it a lot less of a "freebie" 01:15:02 <nb> weren't we going to do a thank you thing with beefy stickers at one time? 01:15:05 <rbergeron> people are either willing to pay something and at least have some dedication 01:15:14 <rbergeron> nb: yes, they're sitting on my dresser after i took them home from SELF 01:15:23 <ianweller> we could roll the beefy stickers into this if we wanted to 01:15:25 * nb has a pack of beefy stickers also 01:15:34 <rbergeron> are there beefy stickers in the event box? 01:15:41 * MarkDude wants ALL the MIracle stickers 01:15:47 * inode0 obviously agrees with helping get swag into more contributor's hands 01:15:51 <nb> rbergeron, central does/can (they aren't in the box at the moment, but are at my house) 01:16:07 <rbergeron> nb: i'll take that up after this topic 01:16:15 <nb> ok 01:16:33 <rbergeron> do we want to do a limited trial for ambassadors-only and US only so we can sort out some kinks? 01:16:57 <rbergeron> and ianweller and others can bikeshed the solution in a bikeshed meeting? 01:16:57 <ianweller> the initial trial would have to be US-only, i figure if we wanted to continue doing it other locales could do their own, otherwise shipping is dumb 01:17:09 <rbergeron> and just advertise it as "no guarantees, we're going to try and see where this gets us" 01:17:11 <inode0> should we just have more raffles and pick up the shipping? 01:17:12 <rbergeron> ? 01:17:39 <inode0> we could have little kits with a variety of swag in them? 01:17:40 <award3535> i could include them in the free media I send out 01:18:08 <inode0> we can't deal well with 1000 people wanting something even if they do pay shipping IMO 01:18:11 <rbergeron> inode0: I think if we did this and it showed good demand that maybe we could justify getting more budget for it over the long haul - though we could do the same with little kits 01:18:29 * nb thinks raffle went well 01:18:36 <rbergeron> i think raffles can just be frustrating for people - and it's not always "gee, i'd really like something" - you have to wait and wait and wonder when a raffle might be 01:18:43 <nb> rbergeron, true 01:18:46 <ianweller> rbergeron just said what i was trying to say 01:18:56 <ianweller> but i couldn't make sentence properly apparently 01:19:00 <rbergeron> inode0: i think they're good, but ... yeah 01:19:13 <rbergeron> if we can legitimately show that we don't even have enough money to get people who contribute stuff who want it 01:19:26 <inode0> we only had one so I don't know - I didn't hear anyone complain though 01:19:27 <rbergeron> ...that ought to be something that budgetary people should see 01:19:57 <chanchito> raffles would be useful in bidding for leftover stock/materials after events are covered 01:20:18 <award3535> I would not mind sending out a few things with media to promote the product, and I agree with the raffle concept 01:20:32 <rbergeron> i don't think we ever have leftovers, they always roll onward to the next thing, though 01:20:32 <inode0> so what happens if 500 people send you a label? 1000 people? 01:20:43 <ianweller> inode0: well, after freaking out, i send them 01:20:48 <ianweller> it may take a while 01:20:50 <inode0> good luck 01:20:52 <rbergeron> inode0: hence the "put a disclaimer that this stuff is in beta" 01:20:56 <chanchito> but i'm not sure i would wait for a winning number to receive swag for an event 01:21:15 <ianweller> but at the same time, i was planning to have a system that would limit the amount of requests for a given item based on what i had on hand 01:21:51 <inode0> ok, that could work - I hate overcommitment 01:22:00 <award3535> humm, yes that could work, but someone always finds a way to go around the system 01:22:25 <ianweller> award3535: and in that case i just reject it 01:22:37 <ianweller> they can void the label if they want, it's a beta, blah blah blah, let's please not bikeshed this into oblivion 01:22:47 <inode0> iirc we had less than 100 people in the raffle for 30 t-shirts, so I'm not really all that sure about demand 01:23:14 <award3535> humm 01:23:27 * nb proposes we send ianweller some stickers, case badges, pens, buttons 01:23:32 <nb> and let him try this? 01:23:38 <kk4ewt> +1 nb 01:23:40 <award3535> sure why not 01:23:49 <inode0> how much? I'm fine with doing it. 01:24:00 <award3535> if it works I would be willing to help him 01:24:27 <nb> ianweller, how much stuff do you think you need? 01:24:34 <ianweller> nb: i have no clue. 01:24:45 <ianweller> :) 01:24:47 * nb suggests we discuss quantities at bikeshed meeting 01:24:59 <nb> (assuming they will not be outrageous that will deplete our stock significantly) 01:24:59 <ianweller> or in the ticket since it's been shown over the last month that i'm bad at meetings 01:25:12 <nb> :) 01:25:18 <ianweller> it's really up to you guys, i don't have an idea what the demand would be if we did this (i guess i could ask spot for counts for the thank you project) 01:25:22 <inode0> let's let ianweller think this through a bit more for details and revisit for that purpose next week? or the week after that unspeakable event in Boston? 01:25:37 <award3535> +1 01:25:47 <ianweller> people who are interested in hashing out details, please CC yourself on that ticket 01:25:54 <nb> +1 01:25:57 <inode0> we can all think about it for a bit, come back with concrete ideas 01:26:08 <award3535> agree 01:26:16 <inode0> thanks ianweller 01:26:17 <ianweller> and we'll have the aformentioned bikeshed meeting in the ticket 01:26:20 <ianweller> inode0: thank you 01:26:33 * nb guesses inode0 doesn't like talking about the shadowman mountain peak :) 01:26:45 <inode0> .famnaticket 22 01:26:47 <zodbot> inode0: #22 (Red Hat Summit / JBossWorld 2012, Jun 26-29, Boston, MA) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/22 01:26:58 <inode0> #info #22 (Red Hat Summit / JBossWorld 2012, Jun 26-29, Boston, MA) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/22 01:27:14 <inode0> #topic Red Hat Summit / JBossWorld 2012 01:27:30 * inode0 sits with his back to the screen for a bit now :) 01:28:00 <graphite6> ack listening to keynote at UberConf and meeting brain malfunction 01:28:06 <graphite6> one sec 01:28:16 <kk4ewt> ! 01:28:51 <graphite6> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Red_Hat_Summit_2012 01:29:06 <dan408> hi 01:29:10 <dan408> sorry im late 01:29:11 <dan408> traveling 01:29:24 <rbergeron> kk4ewt: you got my request, yes? 01:29:27 <kk4ewt> event box and v-banners will be shipped out wednesday or thursday 01:29:36 <rbergeron> and they will arrive no earlier than the day listed? 01:29:38 <chanchito> i'll be at some event in a certain city up north around the same time 01:29:43 <kk4ewt> and i got ruth email 01:29:52 <rbergeron> okay 01:29:56 <kk4ewt> yep they will be there before the 25th 01:30:42 <rbergeron> kk4ewt: they can't arrive before the 25th, that is the earliest day they can arrive, unless they arrived today 01:31:00 <kk4ewt> ok i will make it work 01:31:04 <award3535> I would have liked to attend and help with the booth, but can't get off from the reg job :( 01:31:12 <rbergeron> I guess we will sort it out if they get there early, i can't imagine we'd be the only ones 01:31:23 <chanchito> you could have shipped everything to my house and i am commuting each day 01:31:35 <kk4ewt> chanchito: nope 01:31:49 <chanchito> ok sorry 01:31:53 <kk4ewt> sorry but i would rather send to the convention center in this case 01:31:58 <rbergeron> kk4ewt: are there beefy miracle stickers in the event box? 01:32:03 <rbergeron> or did those go elsewhere 01:32:17 <rbergeron> or alternately: ruth, do you have any leftover 01:32:22 <rbergeron> suehle 01:32:23 <kk4ewt> just buttons 01:32:25 <suehle> I do have a few more left 01:32:34 <suehle> but what the heck happened to all that we had at self?? 01:32:37 <rbergeron> okay, can you bring them since apparently the box is out :) and i will bring mine 01:32:42 <rbergeron> i guess they went with nb? 01:32:44 <rbergeron> i'm not sure 01:32:45 <suehle> yup 01:32:51 * nb has one pack of them 01:32:52 <chanchito> i straightened out the issue with the neighbor and we recovered everything and hold for pickup is the smartest way to ship 01:32:53 <rbergeron> and you are bringing beefy? 01:33:00 <suehle> Well, I'm shipping Beefy, but yes. 01:33:03 <rbergeron> okay. 01:33:05 <graphite6> yeah beefy! 01:33:08 <suehle> Well-traveled wiener that he is. 01:33:08 <nb> rbergeron, do you need my pack? 01:33:31 <rbergeron> nb: i cannot possibly respond to that sentence without laughing 01:33:33 <rbergeron> I think we will be okay 01:33:35 * nb can ship. i figured we'd use them for something, or i'd send to OLF 01:33:38 <nb> rbergeron, LOL 01:33:42 <rbergeron> hang on to them for OLF 01:33:46 <graphite6> all the middleware consultants can get their picture take with the miracle :D 01:33:49 <nb> rbergeron, ok 01:34:38 <graphite6> rbergeron: should the booth staffing time slots break when there are breaks between workshops? 01:34:45 <rbergeron> suehle, graphite6: so we just need to actually invent a postcard that says "get your usb key" and has talks/times on the reverse. suehle: i am guessing having the postcard peeps print 2300 of them in a day is going to be hard? 01:35:15 <suehle> We have to ship them by tomorrow? 01:35:17 <rbergeron> graphite6: people just hang out all day. we have an incredibly large space. it's nice to make sure we have coverage but people aren't obligated to only be there at times they signed up for 01:35:29 <rbergeron> suehle: they have to be there by friday apparently to go in bags. 01:35:29 <suehle> doing what I did for the SELF postcards is an option. Not an awesome fun one, but it's an option. 01:35:29 <graphite6> gotcha 01:35:35 <chanchito> kk4ewt: what happens for my next event? no one ships to me, or no hold for pickup? 01:35:38 <suehle> They might be able to ship them straight there. 01:35:59 <rbergeron> suehle: alternately we can see if they'll just hand them out instead of putting htem in bags, like last year, and then people actualy see them 01:36:08 <rbergeron> because most don't look at the stupid fliers in their backpacks anyway 01:36:22 <suehle> They clearly didn't at SELF--handing them out may indeed be better. 01:36:40 <rbergeron> graphite6: but when people are between workshops, they'll be headed to booths. 01:36:44 <rbergeron> so we'll need to be around. 01:36:52 <rbergeron> There's plenty of poeple who will stop by to hepl that aren't on the schedule. :) 01:37:15 <rbergeron> suehle: can you check it with kristin in the morning and we can corral some ideas tonight or in the morning for how it can look? 01:37:34 <rbergeron> I would guess if we get them there on tuesday morning that will be time enough to put them at all the checkin spots 01:37:37 <graphite6> rbergeron: I figured, just wanted to make sure I wasn't creating some sort of scheduling nightmare:) 01:37:41 <rbergeron> okay 01:38:00 <suehle> rbergeron: will do 01:38:13 * rbergeron is about brain dead from her 2 or 3am start today, sorry :\ 01:38:33 <suehle> I'm going to spend the rest of the night un-CSBing, so we can talk in the morning. 01:39:38 <rbergeron> okay, i don't know what csbing is but ... okay! 01:39:54 <suehle> CSB removal 01:40:36 <graphite6> center shaft bearing? 01:40:38 <rbergeron> okay. I have no idea. We can move on. I think summit is covered, so long as things are on their way. 01:40:40 <ianweller> should we tell inode0 he can look at the channel again? 01:40:42 <rbergeron> Corporate standard build? 01:40:57 <rbergeron> do you have some new laptop? 01:41:01 <rbergeron> yes. 01:41:04 <suehle> rbergeron: that! heh. No, I'm just Beefying it. 01:41:06 <rbergeron> inode0: you can look again 01:41:15 <suehle> rbergeron: question in pm 01:41:16 <inode0> time to change the topic? 01:41:20 <ianweller> yes 01:41:22 <rbergeron> Bee-yu-fe-fying? 01:41:28 <suehle> INDEED 01:41:30 <inode0> #topic Open Floor 01:41:38 * nb likes plymouth-theme-hot-dog 01:41:47 <nb> j_dulaney enlightened me at SELF 01:42:02 <suehle> Still kinda related to that thing inode0 doesn't want to talk about... 01:42:03 <MarkDude> ! 01:42:07 <inode0> that should have been the default 01:42:31 <nb> inode0, i agree 01:42:46 <rbergeron> inode0: sorry, I think suehle had something related to that thing you don't want to talk about 01:42:46 * inode0 had an old greybeard laughing like a little kid when he saw that 01:42:50 * nb thinks someone should push a update to fedora-release that Requires: plymouth-theme-hot-dog or something :) 01:42:56 <rbergeron> :\ 01:43:06 <dan408> hi 01:43:06 <award3535> * is confused 01:43:12 * MarkDude created wiki page for OSCON- hopes to know WHO is the owner for event. 01:43:26 <inode0> rbergeron: open floor, you can talk about that too :) 01:43:45 <dan408> MarkDude have you received swag from vwbusguy? 01:43:49 <dan408> i have not received anything. 01:43:51 <dan408> just banners. 01:43:58 <MarkDude> Put your names on there if you plan on going- so far I know I am going 01:44:22 <rbergeron> markdude: i can own it, or ruth can give it her first ownership run :) 01:44:23 <MarkDude> dan408, no- let me do the OSCON thing 1st 01:44:39 <dan408> just wondering my bad 01:44:40 <MarkDude> suehle, ftw 01:44:47 <rbergeron> and then we should make sure we start filing tickets for people who want to attend so that budget is approved for that 01:45:07 <rbergeron> I don't know who else is planning on attending that might want to, but always nice to share the event ownership love 01:45:32 <rbergeron> suehle: do you want to talk about mad cows? 01:45:34 * MarkDude has a comparison of rooms vs airbnb for it- as well as some more fun to send to list 01:45:41 <rbergeron> what is airbnb? 01:45:46 <suehle> yes, though non-spherical ones. :) 01:45:55 <rbergeron> suehle: speaketh :) 01:45:58 <suehle> airbnb is magical room rental 01:46:07 <MarkDude> rbergeron, that will be in the list also- renting room or house 01:46:29 <suehle> Red Hat is doing this thing called Cow Parade (cowparade.com). It's part public art show part charity thing. Bascially, we're getting a cow to decorate. 01:46:47 <graphite6> the JBoss crew rents a couple houses through airbnb for JavaOne 01:47:03 <suehle> The chosen decoration is doodles of cows by anyone who would like to contribute... cow-munity! And then the spots will be groupings. So if we have a lot from Fedora people, we could have a Fedora cow spot. 01:47:22 <suehle> So I can/plan to bring the doodle forms to the Summit booth. With Sharpies. For all your cow doodling needs. 01:47:25 <kk4ewt> so do we need to think about cow ballons for f18? 01:47:39 <graphite6> suehle: sweet! 01:47:42 <rbergeron> I refuse to wear a costume with udders. that's all i'm sayin. 01:47:58 <graphite6> udder hats!!! 01:48:03 <rbergeron> no hats :) 01:48:09 <suehle> I do not refuse to wear udders. 01:48:22 <graphite6> awww, pretty please 01:48:28 * suehle shamelessly wears just about any costume. 01:48:34 <rbergeron> graphite6: hats are sort of the dark territory 01:49:04 <suehle> http://www.amazon.com/Cow-Head-Party-Hat-Adult/dp/B002PBLL32 01:49:10 <graphite6> rbergeron: there's a story there, I'll get it out of you at the Summit 01:49:21 <MarkDude> *the hat gray area* :D 01:49:21 * inode0 doesn't think anyone would object to udder headgear, just don't call it hat 01:49:37 <suehle> Nope, this one's better: http://compare.ebay.com/like/310401193852?var=lv<yp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&_lwgsi=y&cbt=y 01:50:13 <suehle> And for the last one, Etsy can offer anything: http://www.etsy.com/listing/41171550/udderly-adorable-cow-udder-floppy-hat 01:50:14 * graphite6 totally wants the one with the earflaps for when she's flying down a mountain 01:50:15 <rbergeron> I think there is probably a variety of things we can do for swag this time around. 01:51:03 <rbergeron> suehle: I think having the cow drawing thing at the summit booth is dandy. 01:51:59 <graphite6> Aw yeah, a true utter hat...okay I'll stop now :D 01:53:14 <inode0> anything else? 01:53:22 <rbergeron> need to moooooooove on to something else, anyone? 01:53:37 <award3535> nothing here, just enjoying the chatter 01:54:01 <inode0> time to move to an udder topic if there is one 01:54:17 <ianweller> i can see the puns aren't going to get any better this release cycle 01:54:21 <graphite6> lol 01:54:27 <suehle> Motion to not start cow puns until the beef puns are done. Well done. 01:55:02 <award3535> +1 01:55:24 * inode0 suggests cowsay be part of the default next release 01:57:38 <rbergeron> inode1: fail? 01:57:47 <rbergeron> #chair inode1 01:57:47 <zodbot> Current chairs: inode0 inode1 rbergeron 01:57:55 * inode1 is not the bad block inode 01:58:00 <inode1> now 01:58:17 <MarkDude> The weekend before OSCON is CLS I can take owner on that if no oone minds https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_Leadership_Summit_2012 OSCON here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OSCON_2012 01:58:47 * MarkDude changed suehle to owner for OSCON 01:58:47 <rbergeron> markdude: i don't know that there' smuch to own there - there's not relaly booth space IIRC 01:58:54 <rbergeron> markdude: did she accept? :) 01:59:09 <rbergeron> markdude: other than "help people get sponsorship if needed and have a plan" 01:59:15 <suehle> does she get a choice? :) 01:59:27 <rbergeron> suehle: hey, learning is love! udder love 01:59:35 <award3535> LOL 01:59:37 <suehle> COW PUN BAN 01:59:44 <suehle> LOVE THE BEEF 01:59:44 <MarkDude> Well bugging Jono- in keeping with MAx tradition- MarkDude owns that 01:59:46 <inode1> we have 15 seconds left to discuss the budget with our FAmSCo reps 02:00:17 * inode1 starts hearing cows with guns in his head 02:00:41 <MarkDude> Our Beefy party looks to have no shirts. I will get more cupcakes. BAMF will have great pics 02:01:30 <inode0> designing new t-shirts is still a lingering need before we get new ones 02:01:51 <inode0> so volunteers to work on that == much appreciated 02:02:03 * rbergeron looks at ianweller 02:02:10 <rbergeron> not that oyu've done a shirt before 02:02:14 <ianweller> oh hey 02:02:43 <ianweller> how many shirt designs, what things do you want on them, blah blah blah 02:02:58 <inode0> we want a new shirt design :) 02:03:33 <ianweller> inode0: anything particular you're going for or just sudo make me a shirt 02:03:38 <inode0> probably a 3 color design would be budget friendly 02:04:54 * inode0 thinks a hotdog and cow theme would be good for a year 02:05:18 <inode0> ok, time to adjourn for another week now 02:05:24 <inode0> thank you everyone 02:05:30 <inode0> #endmeeting