01:00:00 <inode0> #startmeeting FAmNA 01:00:00 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Jul 25 01:00:00 2012 UTC. The chair is inode0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:00:00 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 01:00:02 <inode0> #meetingname FAmNA 01:00:02 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 01:00:03 * kk4ewt 01:00:11 * Sonar_Gal 01:00:15 <inode0> #chair rbergeron kk4ewt Sonar_Gal 01:00:15 <zodbot> Current chairs: Sonar_Gal inode0 kk4ewt rbergeron 01:00:17 <dan408> here 01:00:27 <inode0> #topic Roll Call 01:00:34 <inode0> eager people 01:00:46 <dan408> :D 01:00:50 * graphite6 is here 01:01:14 <inode0> #chair rbergeron kk4ewt Sonar_Gal dan408 graphite6 suehle 01:01:14 <zodbot> Current chairs: Sonar_Gal dan408 graphite6 inode0 kk4ewt rbergeron suehle 01:02:06 <inode0> #topic Announcements 01:02:34 <inode0> I guess there were a couple of big announcements today 01:02:47 <VICODAN> oh? 01:03:01 <inode0> #link http://wordshack.wordpress.com/2012/07/24/the-future-of-fudcons/ 01:03:37 <dan408> yes, i saw this, and i completely agree. 01:03:51 <inode0> #link http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2012-July/020019.html 01:04:31 <inode0> Anything else? 01:04:43 <inode0> Our formal agenda is here as always 01:04:45 <inode0> #link https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9 01:04:56 <inode0> #topic Tickets 01:05:13 <inode0> .famnaticket 23 01:05:14 <zodbot> inode0: #23 (Community Leadership Summit 2012, Jul 14-15, Portland, OR) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/23 01:05:25 <inode0> #info #23 (Community Leadership Summit 2012, Jul 14-15, Portland, OR) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/23 01:05:37 <inode0> #topic Community Leadership Summit 2012, Jul 14-15, Portland, OR 01:06:02 * inode0 hasn't looked, any reports, or comments from those attending? 01:06:03 <graphite6> I know I owe lots of reports but I 01:06:20 <dan408> MarkDude is still in portland. 01:06:22 <graphite6> 've been catching up with my day job :) 01:06:26 <dan408> I have seen pictures on his facebook. 01:07:17 <inode0> ok, I assume it was a blast but those not lucky enough to go sure would like to hear about it 01:07:32 <dan408> yes, i would love to hear about it. 01:07:40 <inode0> I'll leave the ticket open another week as a reminder to add reports to the event page 01:07:41 <dramsey> :) 01:07:53 <dan408> +1 inode0 01:08:06 <inode0> .famnaticket 24 01:08:07 <zodbot> inode0: #24 (OSCON 2012, Jul 16-20, Portland, OR) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/24 01:08:21 <inode0> #info #24 (OSCON 2012, Jul 16-20, Portland, OR) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/24 01:08:30 <inode0> #topic OSCON 2012, Jul 16-20, Portland, OR 01:08:35 <inode0> ditto :) 01:08:43 <dan408> +1 inode0 01:08:50 <dramsey> +1 01:08:56 <graphite6> I owe reports for this too and I'm currently processing and curating about 600 photos and a couple videos 01:09:07 <graphite6> will attach reports and photos as I get them done 01:09:17 <inode0> we want reports from our new ambassadors too please 01:09:54 <inode0> .famnaticket 10 01:09:55 <zodbot> inode0: #10 (Texas Linux Fest 2012, Aug 3-4, San Antonio, TX) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/10 01:10:07 <inode0> #info #10 (Texas Linux Fest 2012, Aug 3-4, San Antonio, TX) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/10 01:10:15 <inode0> #topic Texas Linux Fest 2012, Aug 3-4, San Antonio, TX 01:10:42 <inode0> probably should have left this for the end when award3535 might be here but 01:11:05 <inode0> I think suehle has this one ready to go. 01:11:14 <kk4ewt> ! 01:11:22 <inode0> Box, banners heading to award3535 soon 01:11:33 <inode0> kk4ewt shipped swag and media 01:11:43 <kk4ewt> arrived today according to ups 01:11:52 <inode0> MarkDude needs to ship Beefy 01:12:11 <inode0> kk4ewt: yeah, just jump in please 01:12:31 <kk4ewt> thats all i had 01:13:02 <inode0> So I think most everything is set for this event except my flight had an unfortunate change but only I can deal with that 01:13:43 <inode0> nb: ping 01:14:22 <inode0> someone needs to send MarkDude a shipping label ... will ping nb about that 01:14:37 <inode0> .famnaticket 26 01:14:39 <zodbot> inode0: #26 (Ohio LinuxFest 2012, Sep 28-30, Columbus, OH) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/26 01:14:47 <inode0> #info #26 (Ohio LinuxFest 2012, Sep 28-30, Columbus, OH) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/26 01:14:57 <inode0> #topic Ohio LinuxFest 2012, Sep 28-30, Columbus, OH 01:15:13 <inode0> So my question on this one is noted in the ticket 01:15:37 <inode0> Fedora is already on the 2012 sponsors list 01:15:42 <inode0> can anyone explain that? 01:16:09 <inode0> suehle: ^^^ 01:17:04 <inode0> The only other thing I know is talks are supposed to be selected by the end of this month 01:17:36 <inode0> And if I get lucky in that department I'll help out more with other event details/planning 01:17:39 <kk4ewt> inode0: glad someone is one the ball 01:17:56 <inode0> Either way, I would love for someone else to take ownership of this event 01:18:36 <inode0> kk4ewt: I'm not sure anyone is on the ball yet 01:18:40 <kk4ewt> i wish i could 01:19:01 <graphite6> I have to look at my schedule :) and do some math :P 01:19:06 <dan408> i think someone was suggesting nb to take ownership 01:19:21 <inode0> yeah, nb is a logical choice but he hasn't done it 01:19:37 <inode0> if he doesn't want to or can't we'll just need someone else 01:20:15 <inode0> it is the last big community event of the year 01:20:54 <dan408> no one else in the ohio area? 01:21:09 <inode0> ok, well, I'm probably know if I am going to OLF next week 01:22:07 <inode0> Does anyone want to discuss either of the other two agenda tickets this week? 01:22:15 <dan408> yes 01:22:19 <inode0> which one? 01:22:32 <kk4ewt> dan408 i have handled OLF for the last 4 years this year is time for someone else 01:22:33 <dan408> 36 01:22:35 <inode0> .famnaticket 36 01:22:36 <zodbot> inode0: #36 (Fedora Ambassador Day North America (FADNA)) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/36 01:22:45 <inode0> #info #36 (Fedora Ambassador Day North America (FADNA)) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/36 01:22:56 <inode0> #topic Fedora Ambassador Day North America (FADNA) 01:23:00 <dan408> kk4ewt: noted. 01:24:06 <inode0> dan408: go ahead :) 01:24:22 <dan408> i was wondering if we had decided on a location 01:24:27 <inode0> A link to the ticket would be helpful 01:24:33 <inode0> I mean the event page 01:24:52 <dan408> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Ambassador_Day_North_America_2012 01:24:53 <inode0> No, we haven't decided on an agenda either 01:25:02 <inode0> no decisions about anything related to this ticket 01:25:07 <dan408> yes 01:25:21 <dan408> i have made a serious proposal with no yays or nays 01:25:38 <dan408> i mean there were a few yays informally 01:26:04 <dan408> as for agenda I can come up with one. 01:26:10 <inode0> well, where is your serious proposal? 01:26:15 <dan408> in the ticket. 01:27:04 <inode0> ok, I was aware of that but it isn't very specific is it? 01:27:19 <inode0> which is fine at this point 01:27:24 <dan408> it's a specific as I can practically get at this point 01:27:31 <inode0> it is definitely more serious than any other location 01:28:12 <inode0> what we need no matter what is an agenda that produces valuable deliverables 01:28:12 <dan408> yes. and MarkDude informed me that the new ambassador Ryan Singer has contacts at Stanford and is supposed to give me a report when he gets back from Portland on more detailed logistics. 01:28:23 <inode0> without that there won't be a FAD 01:29:25 <dan408> understood. 01:29:45 <inode0> of course we also will need a list of ambassadors (and possibly others) who would be necessary to make that agenda happen 01:30:14 <inode0> armed with that we can begin to deal with what everything costs, when those contributors might actually be free to gather, etc. 01:31:10 <inode0> that is pretty much the normal evolution of this sort of event 01:32:26 <dan408> list of ambassadors locally to help: myself, MarkDude ryansinger, nixiepixel, sexycatsinhats 01:33:57 * kk4ewt will not be able to attend the proposed weekend 01:34:02 <inode0> so I think to make more progress we really need to focus on agenda next - we have two potential sites at least 01:34:20 <dan408> kk4ewt: the date is not set in stone yet. 01:34:25 * inode0 thinks it is unlikely we could arrange this by October but one never knows 01:34:43 <dan408> i think a good agenda to discuss would be Spherical Cow. 01:36:07 <inode0> It is also possible that we might want to consider attaching this to our visit to Lawrence in January, but really we need the agenda or we are wasting our time on location :) 01:36:07 * inode0 wishes kk4ewt came to the last one 01:36:08 <award3535> Evening everyone 01:36:35 <inode0> Ok, so thanks dan408 for getting some progress on location and keep at it 01:36:44 <inode0> hi award3535 01:36:55 <dan408> np inode0, working hard on it, want to make it happen sir. 01:37:28 <inode0> #topic Open Floor 01:37:48 <inode0> award3535: did suehle reach you about the 1st? 01:38:31 <award3535> inode0 she did send me an email with shipping info, I just walked thru the door and logged on 01:39:02 <inode0> ok, the question was whether you would still be there to receive the box/banners on the 1st 01:39:24 <inode0> but just reply to her - we don't need to know 01:39:40 <award3535> Inode0 the answer is yes, okay will do.... 01:40:05 <kk4ewt> award3535: and you had a package at the door 01:40:30 <award3535> kk4ewt I sure did and thanks for the support 01:40:54 <inode0> graphite6: and thanks in advance for your pictures and reports, they are always fun 01:41:12 <graphite6> inode0: thanks :D 01:42:23 <dramsey> +1 01:44:06 <inode0> short meeting? :) 01:44:13 <graphite6> works for me 01:44:25 * inode0 is tired, such an old man 01:44:44 <dan408> ! 01:44:47 <award3535> anything come up about TLF? 01:45:00 * kk4ewt thinks i should send inode0 a cattle prod 01:45:09 <inode0> thank you all for coming, we have budget now so we can start thinking about getting stuff (like t-shirts) 01:45:17 <dan408> tshirts are nice 01:45:30 <kk4ewt> we have budget ? 01:45:33 <inode0> award3535: yeah, we had a section on TXLF earlier 01:45:33 <award3535> +1 01:45:42 <dan408> speaking of which my question: have not received my kit, what is the status of vwbusguy shipping stuff out? 01:45:57 <dan408> should i take that to #ambassadors? 01:46:06 <award3535> I guess I can read it when it posts 01:46:09 <inode0> I don't know, ask nb or someone else who ships to take it 01:46:11 <kk4ewt> take it to the ticket 01:46:15 <dan408> ok, thanks. 01:46:17 <dan408> i did. 01:46:19 <dan408> no reply. 01:46:29 <dan408> i'll cc inode0 01:46:31 <dan408> thanks. 01:46:45 * inode0 doesn't have anything to send 01:46:46 <dramsey> +1 01:47:22 <inode0> we really should get shirts, but it would be nice to have a new design 01:47:35 <inode0> if not we can get more of the old kind 01:47:47 <kk4ewt> i have said i would gladly get pricing as soon as we have a design 01:48:10 <dan408> i burned a fedora dvd for someone today. 01:48:37 <inode0> ok, we have an offer to do half the work :) 01:49:32 <dan408> i would like to give out F17 DVD's. they are the best thing for new people to try fedora, they can choose from all the desktops vs a specific live cd and they don't have to download 3.4gb worth of data 01:49:34 <inode0> thanks again, that was just a reminder in case anyone wants to pick up shirt design and become famous like ianweller 01:50:01 <dan408> yeah, if only I was gimp expert. 01:50:08 <inode0> dan408: I would like to as well but no one is sending me any either 01:50:23 <dan408> we need to fix that, dont you think inode0 ? 01:50:29 <Sonar_Gal> dan408, you just have to wait like the rest of us 01:50:45 <inode0> I am not volunteering to ship again yet, so someone else needs to fix it :) 01:51:08 <dan408> ok what needs to be done for DVDs pricing? design? copying? 01:51:13 <dan408> and then shipping of course? 01:51:39 <inode0> you just need to ask for them to be shipped to you and hope they actually do get shipped 01:51:49 <kk4ewt> dan408: you are talking about the multi-live DVD 01:51:51 <inode0> they exist now 01:51:54 <dan408> LOL 01:52:11 <dan408> kk4ewt: no im talking about the DVD install off the webpage. 01:52:16 <dan408> non live. 01:52:29 <inode0> oh, we don't press the DVD installs 01:52:33 <dan408> here's anaconda, pick your desktop. 01:52:38 <kk4ewt> dan408: the mutli-live is actually better 01:52:39 <dan408> yes, we should 01:52:43 <inode0> so you can burn them yourself if you want 01:52:45 <dan408> kk4ewt: i'll check it out. 01:52:53 <inode0> no, we had good reasons to stop 01:53:17 <dan408> inode0: i burned my IT guy a Fedora 17 DVD, he doesn't know linux well. he is a windows guy. I'm going to teach him fedora. this is a great way for him to learn. 01:53:24 <inode0> what you described above sounded like you wanted the multi-live and we have those pressed 01:53:27 <dramsey> +1 01:53:49 <dan408> again, haven't used the multi-live and I'm not a huge fan of live cds in general. 01:53:50 <award3535> Well I was a windows guy 01:53:59 <dramsey> :) 01:54:11 <kk4ewt> dan408: i will have to let nb pick up your ticket i have 15 DVDs left 01:54:12 <inode0> it isn't about what you are a fan of though 01:54:26 <dan408> no it's not. 01:54:35 <inode0> if someone new wants to get the feel of Fedora with different desktops the multi-live rocks 01:54:37 <dan408> im making a suggestion and giving my reason why though. 01:54:52 <dan408> inode0: or you can just install all of them and login between them. 01:55:06 <dan408> hard drive space is cheap. 01:55:13 <kk4ewt> dan408: or just boot and try each without installing anything 01:55:25 <inode0> yeah, telling someone new who isn't sure that we need to install it on his hard drive is really nice :) 01:55:30 <dan408> meh, this is getting philosophical at this point. 01:55:58 <inode0> yeah, and old - we've had this discussion before and it is why we mostly switched to live 01:56:06 <kk4ewt> nope dan408 i see it at installfest and linux shows all the time 01:56:06 <dan408> k. 01:56:21 <dan408> it's moot. anaconda is being redesigned anyway. 01:56:57 <kk4ewt> anaconda is always in flux 01:57:07 <inode0> ok, I'm seriously ending this in 3 minutes for this week 01:57:27 <dan408> go ahead, can discuss dvds and livecds in #ambassadors 01:57:28 <dan408> thanks! 01:57:29 <inode0> if anyone wants to inject any last minute ambassador stuff 01:57:40 <inode0> now is your last chance 01:57:43 <award3535> nothing from me 01:57:50 <dramsey> inode0, thank you for chairing. ;) 01:58:12 <inode0> ok, thanks everyone for coming, see you next week 01:58:14 <Sonar_Gal> thanks everyone 01:58:18 <inode0> #endmeeting