01:02:49 <inode0> #startmeeting FAmNA 01:02:49 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Aug 8 01:02:49 2012 UTC. The chair is inode0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:02:49 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 01:02:58 <inode0> #meetingname FAmNA 01:02:58 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 01:03:12 <inode0> #chair rbergeron 01:03:12 <zodbot> Current chairs: inode0 rbergeron 01:03:21 <inode0> #topic Roll Call 01:03:33 * masta is here 01:03:36 * graphite6 is here 01:03:37 * jaysonr is here 01:03:40 * lh is here 01:03:40 * CubedRoot is here 01:03:41 * PatStein Is here 01:04:05 <inode0> #chair masta graphite6 jaysonr CubedRoot PatStein lh kk4ewt Sonar_Gal 01:04:05 <zodbot> Current chairs: CubedRoot PatStein Sonar_Gal graphite6 inode0 jaysonr kk4ewt lh masta rbergeron 01:04:17 * Sonar_Gal 01:04:50 <inode0> #topic Announcements 01:05:27 <inode0> this is where everyone makes announcements :) 01:05:29 <dan408> hey im here 01:05:39 * ianweller announces that he has no announcements 01:05:41 <dan408> in the middle of a production incident so cant talk much 01:05:45 <inode0> #chair dan408 ianweller 01:05:45 <zodbot> Current chairs: CubedRoot PatStein Sonar_Gal dan408 graphite6 ianweller inode0 jaysonr kk4ewt lh masta rbergeron 01:06:27 * inode0 is stalling a bit for kk4ewt to arrive 01:06:35 <masta> I'd like to introduce myself - noob Ambassador - got my trainning wheels on 01:06:40 <masta> .fas parasense 01:06:41 <zodbot> masta: parasense '' <jdisnard@gmail.com> 01:06:56 * masta waves at the crowd 01:06:58 * kk4ewt 01:07:01 <dramsey> :) 01:07:08 <inode0> masta will be helping with the SFD in DFW among other things 01:07:17 <graphite6> Hi masta and welcome! 01:07:18 <CubedRoot> I will introduce myself as well. New Ambassador, just got the green light this week :) Looking forward to it! 01:07:19 <jaysonr> masta: welcome 01:07:35 <farmerrob> congrats 01:07:38 <dramsey> :) masta and CubedRoot, Welcome!!! :) 01:07:58 <jaysonr> CubedRoot: welcome! 01:08:07 <inode0> Here is our agenda link as always ... 01:08:09 <inode0> #link https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9 01:08:19 <graphite6> CubedRoot: w00t! Welcome! 01:08:22 <inode0> #topic Tickets 01:08:50 <inode0> .famnaticket 10 01:08:51 <zodbot> inode0: #10 (Texas Linux Fest 2012, Aug 3-4, San Antonio, TX) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/10 01:09:02 <inode0> #topic Texas Linux Fest 2012, Aug 3-4, San Antonio, TX 01:09:17 <inode0> #info #10 (Texas Linux Fest 2012, Aug 3-4, San Antonio, TX) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/10 01:09:22 <MarkDude> Greetings CubedRoot 01:09:30 * inode0 hopes he did that in the correct order this week 01:09:57 * MarkDude did not add items to agenda (will wait for open floor) time depending... 01:10:15 <farmerrob> Hello all 01:10:17 <inode0> So we are waiting on inode0 and award3535 to submit event reports on this yet 01:10:45 <inode0> #task inode0 to submit event report on TXLF 01:10:51 <inode0> #task award3535 to submit event report on TXLF 01:11:05 <inode0> award3535 isn't back from it yet so he has a good excuse 01:11:17 <graphite6> Did you have fun and have some good steak? 01:11:26 <inode0> The event was fantastic, I believe close to 500 attendees this year 01:11:35 <graphite6> Awesome! 01:11:40 <jaysonr> w00t 01:11:42 <inode0> We blew through all of our media and swag 01:12:01 <inode0> Fedora and Rackspace seemed to have the two high traffic booths 01:12:02 <PatStein> I wasn't able to make it this year. :( Maybe next year... 01:12:11 <farmerrob> nice 01:12:46 <inode0> Made some great contacts, one attendee is already contributing this week to both infra and the ambassadors 01:13:02 * MarkDude apologizes for any hassles on his part for not getting Beefy Miracle there :( 01:13:40 <kk4ewt> markdude you didnt do anything wrong 01:13:43 <inode0> and I think we were both under budget by a bit 01:14:09 * inode0 will send more to the ambassador list after recovering a bit 01:14:30 <inode0> .famnaticket 23 01:14:32 <zodbot> inode0: #23 (Community Leadership Summit 2012, Jul 14-15, Portland, OR) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/23 01:14:39 <inode0> #topic Community Leadership Summit 2012, Jul 14-15, Portland, OR 01:14:51 <inode0> #info #23 (Community Leadership Summit 2012, Jul 14-15, Portland, OR) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/23 01:15:09 <inode0> yes this is the segment of our program where we nag people into submissioni 01:15:22 <MarkDude> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_Leadership_Summit_2012 01:16:00 <inode0> #task 5 attendees to submit event reports 01:16:18 * MarkDude put some info on there- has receipts- is going to blank out names on them - can send them tonight if needed (minus hotels- that should be tomoroow 01:16:19 * graphite6 still owes all her reports for cls and oscon, got further delayed by a family issue that required time off these last two days 01:16:21 <inode0> please do it so I can stop nagging and close the ticket 01:17:03 <MarkDude> Yes. Does Nixie's video count as her report? 01:17:23 <inode0> nothing counts for anything without links on the event page 01:17:44 <MarkDude> Yes two things there- her video and my pics 01:17:45 <inode0> just put links so we can show those paying the bills we were there doing stuff 01:17:50 <MarkDude> Soon graphite6 's also 01:18:10 <inode0> .famnaticket 24 01:18:11 <zodbot> inode0: #24 (OSCON 2012, Jul 16-20, Portland, OR) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/24 01:18:18 <inode0> #topic OSCON 2012, Jul 16-20, Portland, OR 01:18:29 <inode0> #info #24 (OSCON 2012, Jul 16-20, Portland, OR) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/24 01:18:40 <inode0> #task ditto for the same 5 attendees 01:19:09 * inode0 suggests combining them if you like, write one report and link to it both places 01:19:42 <MarkDude> Sounds even better 01:19:45 <inode0> now something that isn't nagging :) 01:19:53 <inode0> .famnaticket 26 01:19:55 <zodbot> inode0: #26 (Ohio LinuxFest 2012, Sep 28-30, Columbus, OH) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/26 01:20:02 <MarkDude> Nagging is deserved :D 01:20:08 <inode0> #topic Ohio LinuxFest 2012, Sep 28-30, Columbus, OH 01:20:14 * nb is around now sorry for being late 01:20:18 <inode0> #info #26 (Ohio LinuxFest 2012, Sep 28-30, Columbus, OH) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/26 01:20:34 <inode0> kk4ewt has the floor for this I think 01:20:39 <graphite6> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ohio_Linux_Fest_2012 <-event page 01:20:52 * inode0 notes we should approve some budget for OLF tonight 01:21:03 <graphite6> no, I think that's me 01:21:13 <kk4ewt> graphite is the lead 01:21:15 <inode0> either way 01:21:21 <inode0> whoever, run with it 01:21:23 <kk4ewt> (for a change) 01:21:45 <kk4ewt> graphite6: please check the wiki page 01:21:45 <graphite6> on the ticket I attached the contract, and copied in the prospectus text 01:22:14 <graphite6> kk4ewt: yeah! awesome! 01:22:18 <inode0> graphite6: do you need anything for your travel? 01:22:49 <graphite6> I haven't budgeted that out yet, but I would like to vote on the sponsorship funding for OFL 01:22:51 <kk4ewt> i make the motion the budget for OLF be $750 as per the wiki page 01:23:05 <inode0> I second kk4ewt's motion 01:23:14 <kk4ewt> graphite6: do you need hotel room 01:23:20 <inode0> and note that more can be added later 01:23:35 <kk4ewt> or travel 01:23:43 <graphite6> is $750 for sponsorship + travel or just sponsorship? 01:24:05 <kk4ewt> 500 sponsorship + my room 01:24:08 <inode0> it is sponsorship of the event at $500 plus hotel for kk4ewt & son 01:24:32 <graphite6> for sponsorship, I recommend bronze ($500) and OLF said they'd throw in electricity for free since we're a nonprofit (ish) 01:24:33 <inode0> we can add other attendee funding next week 01:24:37 <kk4ewt> bronze sponsorship 01:24:44 <inode0> that is the motion 01:24:49 <dan408> yay 01:24:51 <dan408> incident over 01:24:54 <inode0> anyone else want to +1 it? 01:25:07 <dan408> +1 01:25:08 <graphite6> +1 the motion 01:25:11 <dan408> yes i read it 01:25:12 <jaysonr> +1 01:25:18 <kk4ewt> +1 01:25:18 <nb> +1 01:25:40 <inode0> this is pretty much a no brainer 01:25:44 <graphite6> I'll try and nail down my travel plans next week so I can give the group a number 01:26:11 <inode0> #agreed Funding for OLF sponsorship and hotel for kk4ewt & son 01:26:34 <graphite6> so can I fill out the contract, but who provides the financial info (credit card info) 01:26:59 <inode0> #agreed $750 Funding allocated to OLF tonight with the understanding there will be additional travel expenses to come next week 01:27:18 <inode0> graphite6: ask ruth to handle the contract and payment 01:27:24 <graphite6> gotcha 01:27:42 * inode0 thinks RHT folks should do all the contracts when possible 01:27:47 <MarkDude> OLF is much fun. 01:28:45 <inode0> OLF would only be more fun if I was going :) 01:29:11 * graphite6 is sad inode0 isn't going :( 01:29:18 * MarkDude has a hotdog suit he could wear for more fun 01:29:32 <inode0> thus far it doesn't seem inode0 and graphite6 are allowed to attend the same conference 01:29:34 <farmerrob> lol 01:29:54 <rbergeron> why aren't you going to olf? 01:30:04 <rbergeron> i tought you were speaking 01:30:08 <inode0> me? 01:30:13 <graphite6> inode0: we're an unrequited love story, the drama! they tragedy! 01:30:15 <rbergeron> yes you :) 01:30:38 <inode0> If they had accepted my talk I would be speaking but alas they did not. 01:30:49 <rbergeron> oh. i must be smoking crack 01:30:59 <graphite6> I'm speaking about Arquillian's community adventures 01:31:08 <graphite6> at OLF 01:31:41 * inode0 thinks it is great we are having an uptick in Fedora people speaking lately though 01:31:50 <dan408> im stopping by costco tonight to pick up a beefy miracle 01:31:51 <inode0> the more the merrier 01:32:01 <MarkDude> rbergeron, you should say you are engaging the crack community- sounds better :D 01:32:06 * jaysonr timidly asks as a new ambassador how does one get funding to go to a conference? 01:32:36 <inode0> shall I digress here to answer that one? 01:32:47 <inode0> good question 01:32:51 <graphite6> sure 01:33:00 * CubedRoot would like to know as well :) 01:33:24 <inode0> but I'm muddled a little as there are quite a few things to consider 01:33:36 <inode0> how about we put it on the agenda for some time next week? 01:33:38 * lh is another timid new ambassador who would like to know when to bring up open event ticket or if she did not know where to look for an agenda 01:33:52 <jaysonr> inode0: sounds good to me 01:34:11 <MarkDude> lh we can do yours during open floor :) 01:34:20 <lh> MarkDude: got it 01:34:27 <inode0> ok, we do have a lot of new folks - we'll have more orientation stuff on the agenda next week to help everyone get their bearings 01:34:35 <MarkDude> +1 01:34:40 <graphite6> +1 01:34:43 <CubedRoot> +1 01:34:45 <farmerrob> sweet 01:35:04 <dramsey> +1 01:35:05 <inode0> someone kick me please if it doesn't show up on the agenda before next week 01:35:16 * Sonar_Gal can do that!! 01:35:25 <inode0> #task inode0 to add new ambassador orientation to the agenda for next week's meeting 01:35:46 <inode0> ok, anything more on OLF before we move on? 01:36:28 <inode0> .famnaticket 36 01:36:30 <zodbot> inode0: #36 (Fedora Ambassador Day North America (FADNA)) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/36 01:36:41 <inode0> #topic Fedora Ambassador Day North America (FADNA) 01:36:53 <inode0> #info #36 (Fedora Ambassador Day North America (FADNA)) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/36 01:37:04 <inode0> what's new here? 01:37:15 <MarkDude> We have a few locations to pick from 01:37:22 <masta> we should have that at disney land 01:37:25 <MarkDude> That is second to agenda 01:37:30 * masta jokes 01:37:33 <MarkDude> Bay area has 4 locations 01:38:04 <Sonar_Gal> ATL or Orlando!! 01:38:07 <inode0> masta: wherever 10 ambassadors get together it is disneyland 01:38:09 <CubedRoot> Atlanta is my vote 01:38:11 <MarkDude> that can be sorted- but it looks like if we go with this location- we canb do some great Ambassadors work 01:38:16 <lh> Orlanda FTW 01:38:17 <lh> cheaper 01:38:20 <farmerrob> How about NC near RH 01:38:21 * MarkDude put some on wiki page 01:38:28 <inode0> here we go again 01:38:32 <MarkDude> ML had requests for locations 01:38:38 <MarkDude> None were put in 01:38:43 <Sonar_Gal> ATL would probably be easiest for most 01:38:44 * MarkDude has it inode0 01:38:51 <MarkDude> There was a post to ML 01:38:52 <farmerrob> yes 01:39:00 <MarkDude> asking for folks to submit 01:39:14 <MarkDude> only response with work done so far is BAy Area 01:39:15 <inode0> well, anyone can propose a location BUT there really isn't any point without an AGENDA 01:39:22 <MarkDude> 4 Ambassadors 01:39:26 <farmerrob> true 01:39:30 <MarkDude> Agenda is on page 01:39:41 <inode0> Lawrence was also proposed for the record 01:39:59 <inode0> we need to agree to an agenda which we haven't done 01:40:00 <lh> MarkDude: link to discussed wiki page please? 01:40:03 <MarkDude> Wanted to see if folks think part of it being about local Fedora community, and ways to create it 01:40:04 <rbergeron> woo lawrence 01:40:14 <inode0> sort out what people are important to make that agenda happen 01:40:20 * rbergeron could almost propose phoenix 01:40:22 <MarkDude> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Ambassador_Day_North_America_2012 01:40:30 <inode0> find the best place to get those people in the same spot to do it 01:40:35 <masta> so can we do some plus-one's for the locations and whichever few rise to the top becomes the short list? 01:40:38 <dan408> The agenda will be similar to 2010 + more additions 01:40:43 <MarkDude> Well the 4 that have stepped up to help are on the list 01:40:55 <MarkDude> Yay, dan408 say stuff here :D 01:40:57 <dan408> who is attending? 01:41:05 <dan408> do we have a list of people that want to speak? 01:41:07 <dan408> is herlo coming? 01:41:14 <dan408> obviously you and robyn are coming right? 01:41:18 <inode0> did anyone listen to what I just said 01:41:32 <dan408> you said you want an agenda 01:41:32 <MarkDude> herlo most likely 01:41:33 <dan408> right? 01:41:47 <inode0> AGENDA -> People to make it happen -> Place for them to make it happen 01:41:53 <dan408> this is a chicken egg thing right now. 01:41:59 <dan408> first of all who plans to attend? 01:41:59 <inode0> we keep starting at the wrong spot 01:42:00 <MarkDude> No its not 01:42:03 <dan408> and what do they want to talk about? 01:42:26 <dan408> we have determined 2 viable dates 30 days before release date of Spherical Cow is preferred as per Robyn 01:42:28 <MarkDude> Ryan singer and overlap of mktg and being Ambassador 01:42:37 <dan408> 1 30 days after as less preferred 01:42:42 <CubedRoot> I can help make it happen if its somewhere in the south east or east 01:42:59 <dan408> We'd like to have this happen in Silicon Valley. 01:43:02 <Sonar_Gal> CubedRoot, Atl would be easiest for me 01:43:17 <dan408> as per discussion with inode0 a lot of names have been thrown around 1 being Stanford Univeristy, 1 being Google. 01:43:19 * MarkDude is willing to a huge amount of work on this 01:43:23 <lh> How much do we care about PR value for location? Hosting at Stanford means better opportunities for press coverage. 01:43:25 <CubedRoot> I am about 1 hour north of ATL so its really easy for me 01:43:26 <farmerrob> Atl is do able for me 01:43:32 <MarkDude> Looks like location is still ------ sumthin' 01:43:37 <farmerrob> NC here 01:43:43 <dan408> again, people proposing locations 01:43:51 <dan408> please see me email to the ambassdors list 01:43:54 <dan408> and make a serious proposal 01:43:55 * lh refuses to get yet another tech conference going in portland, or 01:43:57 <rbergeron> we don't need PR for a fad 01:44:00 <MarkDude> let me know when I know I am just not asking non-local folks about ideas- taht depend on them being able to travel 01:44:03 <dan408> before we start discussing locations 01:44:08 <rbergeron> lh: it's a get together of a small group to actually do things. 01:44:14 <lh> rbergeron: oh never mind 01:44:16 <rbergeron> like, usually 8-10-15 people, at the most. 01:44:19 * lh goes back to listening 01:44:21 <rbergeron> think hackfest :) 01:44:24 <lh> rbergeron: gotcha 01:44:37 <dan408> so after getting the right link on to FADNA day 2010 01:44:40 <dan408> and reading the agenda 01:44:42 <dan408> and the speakers 01:44:57 <dan408> the ageneda would be quite similar with some additions from the local bay area crew. 01:44:58 <kk4ewt> dan408: no speakers 01:45:05 <dan408> talks 01:45:09 <dan408> whatever you want to call them 01:45:09 <kk4ewt> no talks 01:45:10 <MarkDude> Discussion 01:45:16 <rbergeron> it's nice to have a person in the town, who is willing to do the work to organize and etc. 01:45:27 <rbergeron> not to find a place that looks awesome. :) 01:45:29 <rbergeron> no talks. 01:45:35 * jaysonr assumes Florence, SC isn't an option :) 01:45:41 <dan408> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Ambassador_Day_North_America_2010#Agenda_Table_-_Ideas_and_Deliverables 01:45:48 <dan408> "agenda table - ideas and deliverables" 01:45:54 <dan408> is that accurate enough? 01:46:01 <kk4ewt> dan408: nope 01:46:09 <MarkDude> +1 no talks 01:46:12 <dan408> what is it then kk4ewt? please set the record straight. 01:46:44 <dan408> are we talking about a detailed agenda with a schedule? 01:46:44 <kk4ewt> we have to come up with something to work on and make a deliverable from that 01:46:47 <dan408> which is right below it? 01:47:15 <rbergeron> yes. "we want to work together ona plan for the upcoming year," "make a standard slide deck for ambassadors," "assemble new demos and make sure we can all use them," 01:47:21 <rbergeron> etc. 01:47:21 <dan408> yeah and? I see that a lot of the issues Fedora faced in 2010 are faced by Fedora in 2012. 01:47:32 <rbergeron> we're getting together to do shit. 01:47:36 <dan408> and im talking ambasaddor specific 01:48:26 * MarkDude is willing to do work on this. Could we please narrow this down to 2-3 locations- so we have less variables 01:48:40 <rbergeron> jaysonr: there's nothing wrong with florence, SC :) 01:48:55 <dan408> right so we would like to work together to better plan our budget, swag procurment and distribution, growth of regional leadership, marketing materials, event planning, etc. etc. 01:49:06 <kk4ewt> jaysonr: if someone wants to organize its fine 01:49:09 <jaysonr> rbergeron: I'm sure I could host the event where I work (would have to check, but 99.9% sure I could get us a room) 01:49:24 <rbergeron> jaysonr: see if it's possible and we can add it to the list :) 01:49:35 <jaysonr> rbergeron: will do - is it just one day? 01:49:38 <dan408> getting us a room anywhere is not hard 01:49:46 <MarkDude> 3 days 01:49:49 <CubedRoot> I can do Florence, SC jaysonr 01:49:50 <inode0> jaysonr: the last one was in Ames, IA so anywhere is possible :) 01:49:52 <rbergeron> dunno. usually 2, usually on a weekend, if that makes it easier, sometimes 3 days 01:49:55 <jaysonr> MarkDude: ok - thanks 01:50:09 <dan408> what seems to be hard is the confusion of what is needed, as of last night the 2012 FADNA day wiki page linked to FAD 2009 01:50:14 <jaysonr> I will check and see if I can get us a room reserved at work 01:50:24 <dramsey> :) +1 01:50:52 <dan408> so I have made a serious proposal of location, with logistics, dates, planning, we have a core group of locals who are willing to make this happen 01:51:01 <dan408> now I just provided with a basic agenda 01:51:08 <CubedRoot> I havea conference room that is outside my data center that is available. Its in Knoxville, TN. I can get the conference room for free with a short notice. 01:51:13 <inode0> it can be 1-3 days depending on the agenda and other factors 01:51:36 <kk4ewt> dan408: one person local 01:51:41 <dan408> one person? 01:51:46 <dan408> actually we have 4 01:51:49 <dan408> probably more 01:51:49 <kk4ewt> that is all that is needed 01:51:55 <dan408> 4 are official ambassadors 01:52:42 <MarkDude> question: how hard is it being the only person setting up FADNA? 01:52:45 <dan408> i mean 01:52:46 <MarkDude> inode0, ? 01:52:51 <dan408> did my email even reach the mailing list? 01:52:51 <rbergeron> not hard, easier if you are onsite 01:53:05 <dan408> for people proposing locations please read this http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2012-August/020067.html 01:53:07 <inode0> it was not an insignificant amount of work for me 01:53:08 <dan408> because nobody replied 01:53:12 <MarkDude> dan408, let regroup and do it later 01:53:33 <MarkDude> this is clustery at this point- we can phonecall after meeting 01:53:40 <dan408> yup 01:53:45 <dan408> i'm still at work 01:53:51 <dan408> production incident is over 01:53:52 <MarkDude> Can we at least get this to 3 possible locations by next week 01:53:59 <MarkDude> Please :) 01:54:08 <inode0> mostly a lot of busy work making sure everything is set, getting people where they need to be, arranging some fun/interesting things to do along with the work, etc. 01:54:08 <dan408> 3 possible silicon valley locations? :) 01:54:28 <MarkDude> We have 4 Bay Area choices at least dan408 01:54:32 <dan408> jesus christ if it's really about a conference room I'll host you all at my office 01:54:46 <inode0> it is really about an agenda 01:54:48 * MarkDude was just hoping it can be narrowed to 3 01:54:53 <dan408> okay 01:55:05 <inode0> we can get a free place to meet about a billion different places 01:55:10 <dan408> and inode0 according to kk4ewt the agenda from 2010 is not what I should base the 2012 agenda on? 01:55:18 <MarkDude> dan408, its about the agenda- we nuke the page do it again, and let folks look over it ahead of time 01:55:33 <inode0> the best location is the one that fits the needs of those who are critical to the success of the agenda to be honest 01:55:44 <farmerrob> where are most Ambassadors located west or east? 01:55:58 <dan408> well the agenda for 2010 was budgets, wiki, swag, event planning, etc. 01:55:58 <kk4ewt> really doesnt matter 01:56:03 * inode0 has no idea and doesn't think it matters 01:56:04 * CubedRoot is in East (TN-GA area) 01:56:06 <dan408> i mean you can have that agenda anywhere 01:56:14 <farmerrob> NC 01:56:25 <MarkDude> inode0, as in working with Google could help build sumthin? 01:56:26 <inode0> ok, time to move on 01:56:40 <MarkDude> Relevance in other owrds :) 01:56:51 <farmerrob> Maybe we could have an east coast and a west coast meeting 01:56:58 <kk4ewt> all who want it someplace else make proposals on the mailing list now 01:57:01 <farmerrob> telecom the two together 01:57:15 <dan408> no. 01:57:25 <farmerrob> just an idea 01:57:27 <inode0> google in my mind is an attractive location for reasons having nothing to do with FADNA 01:57:32 <dan408> that's the whole point of FADNA 01:57:34 <MarkDude> Next agenda- if not I have a request for someone near Philly 01:57:41 <MarkDude> Moving on.... 01:57:43 <dan408> is to stop talking to each other over the internet and get us all in one room and have a good time 01:58:07 <inode0> improving contacts with them could pay off in a variety of ways long term 01:58:21 <MarkDude> Ty 01:58:24 <dan408> +1 on google inode0 01:58:30 <lh> inode0: Google is not motivated to help Fedora 01:58:37 <inode0> not so far 01:58:39 <dan408> why not? 01:58:45 <inode0> but that doesn't mean not ever :) 01:58:55 <kk4ewt> we are at 1 hour already people 01:58:59 <lh> dan408: how does it benefit them? also, i am sorry, i derailed this meeting. i can discuss at length later. 01:59:01 <kk4ewt> next 01:59:16 <inode0> #topic Open Floor 01:59:19 <dan408> lh: well considering android is linux based, and you know the rest.. 01:59:23 <dan408> okay moving right along 01:59:25 <MarkDude> https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/38 01:59:28 <lh> dan408: later 01:59:34 <dan408> yep 01:59:36 * inode0 plans to end at 9:10 unless something really good comes up here :) 01:59:39 * MarkDude was gonna give talk at FOSScon in Philly 01:59:51 <MarkDude> cant make it now- they will be playing my video 02:00:02 <MarkDude> which has Fedora stuff in it 02:00:24 <MarkDude> Can someone ship a simple envelope to Philly with stickers- and maybe media? 02:00:31 <MarkDude> If not I will ship tomorrow 02:00:45 <MarkDude> eof! 02:00:55 * inode0 suggested earlier making a request on the famnarequests trac where we always make media/swag requests 02:01:19 <inode0> assign it to the nearest person and see if they can help 02:01:23 <MarkDude> - oooh I forgot to ask if we have anyone nearby there that could attend 02:01:34 <inode0> with 3 or 4 days until the event it might not happen 02:01:37 <MarkDude> Will do. 02:01:50 <dan408> oh 02:01:54 <dan408> my business cards came today! 02:01:55 <MarkDude> Moving on ... lh has ticket 02:01:58 <dan408> im going home 02:02:02 <kk4ewt> MarkDude: when is the event 02:02:10 <inode0> the 11th 02:02:15 <MarkDude> This weekend - the 11th 02:02:15 <lh> It's ticket #296 but I don't see it in the FAMNA trac 02:02:33 <nb> 296 sounds like a number from famnarequests 02:02:40 <inode0> lh: we have two tracs, I'll talk about that next week if not sooner :) 02:02:43 <kk4ewt> it is 02:02:54 <lh> inode0: gotcha, thank you. 02:03:02 <lh> nb: link to famnarequests please, will find ticket link 02:03:13 <nb> http://fedorahosted.org/famnarequests 02:03:23 <nb> you won't be able to see the ticket unless you are the requestor or have TICKET_VIEW 02:03:27 <nb> which is generally only the shippers 02:03:39 <lh> ah ha 02:03:41 <lh> https://fedorahosted.org/famnarequests/ticket/296 02:03:41 <inode0> lh: how about a quick summary here? 02:03:48 <lh> inode0: you got it 02:03:50 <inode0> since most people can't read that ticket 02:04:16 <lh> 15 September 2012 - we have a request from Georgia Tech Research Institute to provide 200 DVDs to a group of high school students there for an installfest + stickers 02:04:18 <nb> I can ship some media, but IDK about 200 medias 02:04:32 <nb> media is all screwed up for f17 02:04:36 <lh> and it would also be truly phenomenal if we could send a nice fedora human along to help at the installfest 02:04:43 <kk4ewt> install media doesnt exist livemedia that you can install from does 02:04:48 <lh> nb: i have heard. is there a workaround? 02:04:55 <dramsey> +1 kk4ewt 02:05:04 <lh> kk4ewt: what is the difference? 02:05:08 * lh waits to gain clue 02:05:11 <kk4ewt> package set 02:05:15 <kk4ewt> later 02:05:17 <lh> kk4ewt: gotcha 02:05:21 <kk4ewt> where in GA 02:05:22 <lh> anyway, that's what we need. 02:05:25 * MarkDude will give lh 2 Fedora usb drives next week for this event- and can put that on ticket if need be (got some drives after OSCON) 02:05:25 <inode0> live media can be used to install - it is fine for a high school installfest 02:05:42 <nb> lh, you might talk to andrew ward 02:05:44 <kk4ewt> where in GA 02:05:46 <nb> he is from GA i think 02:05:46 <lh> kk4ewt: at Georgia Tech Research Institute in Atlanta 02:05:56 <lh> nb: cool beans, thanks for the tip 02:06:08 <inode0> StabbyMc would be great if he is available 02:06:26 <lh> inode0: thank you, will also follow up with Mr. Stabby 02:06:29 <CubedRoot> I work about an hour or so from GA Tech. 02:06:32 <kk4ewt> if you want me to fly down and put me up in a hotel room i amwilling 02:06:42 * lh does not know how this process works 02:07:09 <lh> I think it is worth the cost of a hotel room for one night for getting our hands on some of the best and brightest kids in an area where we have great conference representation 02:07:11 <kk4ewt> CubedRoot: do you think you can handle a class of high school students 02:07:13 <lh> aka SELF 02:07:18 <inode0> I don't recall us ever flying someone to help with an installfest - locals should be able to handle that IMO 02:07:29 <CubedRoot> Hmm.. I think I might be able to. :) 02:07:40 <lh> CubedRoot: ^5 02:07:57 <nb> hotel room i'd be willing to approve 02:07:58 <CubedRoot> I am still very new to being an Ambassador, so I would like to have someone to work with me on how to best represent Fedora before I go down though. 02:08:01 <kk4ewt> cuberoot and stabbymc would be good 02:08:21 <lh> Do we usually cover hotel requests for needing to arrive at a decent hour? I would assume so but I am new here. A flight for an installfest seems like too much cash. 02:08:46 <nb> lh, personally I think a hotel would be fine, but not a flight 02:08:50 * nb would vote like that 02:08:53 <inode0> we fund what needs to be funded if we have the money and think it is worthwhile 02:08:55 <lh> nb: I agree with you. 02:08:56 <kk4ewt> CubedRoot: basicly run them through the install then deal with any issues like wireless and such 02:08:59 <lh> inode0: noted 02:09:13 <lh> CubedRoot: and gently explain software freedom and why it is important 02:09:15 <lh> :) 02:09:29 <CubedRoot> I think I can handle that :) 02:09:30 <kk4ewt> i will get with CubedRoot and we can discuss this out of meeting 02:09:30 <inode0> let's see if Scott can do it, he lives there and is great 02:09:51 <nb> should we go ahead and motion to approve a hotel room? 02:09:55 <nb> or wait until next week or so? 02:09:55 <inode0> no 02:09:59 <nb> ok 02:10:03 <kk4ewt> we have time 02:10:05 <lh> kk4ewt: excellent, thank you 02:10:12 <lh> inode0: is Scott Mr. Stabby? 02:10:16 <nb> lh, yes 02:10:17 <inode0> yes 02:10:23 <lh> nb, inode0 thanks 02:10:27 <kk4ewt> CubedRoot: and stabbymc i think would be great 02:10:40 <lh> inode0: is the process for me to ping stabbymc to confirm his availability or how do we go forward from here? 02:11:14 <inode0> I would drop him an email with the details and ask if he could help out 02:11:15 <CubedRoot> I can do the trip for free, and I'd be happy to do it. 02:11:27 <graphite6> kk4ewt: +1 CubedRoot and stabbymc team would be fab! 02:11:28 <lh> inode0: will do 02:11:30 <inode0> good 02:11:32 <lh> CubedRoot: will cc you 02:11:32 <CubedRoot> Has stabby done an install fest before? 02:11:33 <inode0> thanks CubedRoot 02:11:34 <Sonar_Gal> CubedRoot, Let me know if you need help I am a few hours south of ATL 02:11:39 <lh> And agreed that you two together would do great. 02:11:46 <inode0> StabbyMc has done everything 02:11:48 <lh> Sonar_Gal: shall I also add you to the email? 02:11:57 <Sonar_Gal> lh, Please do 02:12:04 <lh> Sonar_Gal: shall do 02:12:04 <CubedRoot> excellent! that would be awesome to have someone with me for guidance 02:12:13 <CubedRoot> since this will be my first Fedora *event* 02:12:29 <Sonar_Gal> CubedRoot, I am also a newer ambassador not here but a few months 02:12:43 <CubedRoot> Thanks Sonar_Gal will be in contact with ta 02:12:51 <Sonar_Gal> :D 02:13:11 <inode0> ok, we have some contacts now to work with and see if we can get this nicely covered 02:13:31 <inode0> who has media to send - we definitely have plenty of stickers 02:13:42 * nb has some media 02:13:56 <nb> I don't know if I can get them quite 200 02:13:59 <inode0> and I think sending media to this is fine 02:14:00 <nb> but probably close to that 02:14:19 <CubedRoot> I have a CD DVD duplicator if we dont care to use plain old media 02:14:28 * lh grumps at her internet connectivity 02:15:01 <inode0> lh: ping me later and I'll help you get this on the agenda for next week to followup 02:15:04 <kk4ewt> nb get on the media folks 02:15:14 <nb> kk4ewt, yeah, i'll send them a followup 02:15:15 <lh> inode0: excellent, shall do 02:15:24 * nb wonders if we have a bad vendors list yet 02:15:31 <nb> because I'm sure about ready to put AMS on it 02:15:43 <inode0> ok, that was good enough to run over - last call 02:16:23 <inode0> thank you all for coming - next week we'll do some orientation for new contributors 02:16:30 <inode0> #endmeeting