01:58:38 #startmeeting FAmNA 01:58:38 Meeting started Wed Jan 23 01:58:38 2013 UTC. The chair is inode0. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:58:38 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 01:58:42 #meetingname FAmNA 01:58:42 The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 01:58:55 #topic Roll Call 01:59:00 present 01:59:04 * inode0 is starting a minute early tonight 01:59:10 here 01:59:15 no pr9oblems 01:59:57 #topic Announcements 02:00:24 inode0 kk4ewt nb i have the banners 02:00:28 Texas linux fest is may 31 jun 1 02:00:45 hi 02:00:46 SELF is 7-9 Jun 02:00:47 dan408_: good 02:00:56 k 02:00:56 * graphite6 is here 02:01:04 dan408_, ok good 02:01:16 other announcements? 02:01:22 FUDCon happened 02:01:26 FAMNA happened 02:01:28 they were good. 02:01:29 EOF 02:01:30 FADNA Happen 02:01:44 pleasire meeting everyone 02:01:48 #topic FADNA Information 02:02:04 #info Proposed FY14 budget is here 02:02:14 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApBrbq5j6NbOdG0zQzVvR3VqQ05NaE5xaDdLOWh3a0E&pli=1#gid=0 02:02:37 Please review quickly to see if anyone has any comments/concerns before we informally approve it 02:02:48 are we adding those neat coasters? 02:03:21 no idea what you are talking about dan408_ 02:03:28 Brief list of agreed on core events, event owners, and SOPs to write are on the FADNA page 02:03:31 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Ambassador_Day_North_America_2013#FADNA_Results 02:03:35 the coasters some UK guy gave us at FUDCon 02:03:39 that have the foundations on them 02:03:55 * inode0 hasn't seen them or heard of them so no 02:04:15 swag 02:04:33 ill take a pic and get the info 02:05:03 #link FADNA recording part 1 https://plus.google.com/u/0/100952077644304838223/posts/XgHi4ouePWx 02:05:05 swag can always be pitched but it certainly isn't in the budget proposal and won't be without a vendor and someone willing to do it 02:05:20 any comments on the budget? 02:05:45 this is about a 50% increase over what we have spent in recent years 02:05:49 gimme a min 02:05:49 #link FADNA recording part 2 https://plus.google.com/u/0/100952077644304838223/posts/S1KJEjwMDtb 02:05:52 #proposal send it to famsco as our proposal 02:06:27 Yay, FAMNA 02:06:42 +1 to nb's proposal 02:07:04 +1 to nb's proposal 02:07:13 +1 02:07:14 would like to add amend the swag to add coasters and lanyards 02:07:16 +1 02:07:28 rbergeron was interested in the coasters for sure 02:07:37 dan408_: pitch them later when they aren't just a dream 02:07:47 yessir 02:07:47 just because it proposed doesnt mean its going to be granted 02:08:10 dan408_: one problem no voice symbol 02:08:15 hearing no dissent 02:08:16 next 02:08:19 plus 1 02:08:54 #agreed FAmNA approves the proposed budget from FADNA and nb will send it on to FAmSCo 02:09:04 #info thank you to herlo for setting up the hangout/youtube recordings of the FADNA meeting 02:09:13 Agreed. 02:09:33 graphite6: would you link the two main wiki pages we worked on just so people can see how they look now? 02:09:39 I will watch it later, and yes thanks for the links 02:09:53 inode0: yes, just a sec 02:10:23 #link Updated main ambassador page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors 02:10:51 #link Update FAmNA page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Ambassadors_North_America_(FAMNA) 02:11:50 #info Event owners for major events identified with the exceptions of TXLF, ILF, and OLF 02:11:55 At FAmNA we worked through the two pages above and removed old info, added a region map and what we do section 02:12:22 I updated the main events page with the FY14 quarters and the core events we're interested in sponsoring 02:12:29 * MarkDude takes exception to local budget amount. Will bring it at another time 02:12:53 what is the objection? 02:12:54 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events?rd=FedoraEvents 02:13:52 Well, I was under the impression BAMF costs would be under local 02:14:07 I mean, normally we are the only ones to do parties 02:14:29 release parties or parties in general? 02:14:39 But the ideas of BAMF would most likely take a sub-meeting 02:14:39 BAMF 02:14:43 when you propse them we can cover them at later meeting,should we pay for every bamf meeting no 02:14:59 ? 02:15:05 eof 02:15:15 give me a rough number what you think BAMF needs from us? 02:15:40 guess of $2000+ 02:15:44 guess 02:15:55 EVERYTHING would be done in $300 increments 02:15:57 does that include media/swag? 02:15:59 EVERY 02:16:12 Well thats the detaislIm not sure of 02:16:36 I want to make sure I can show local Fedora works, but do it in a manner that lets folks see it 02:16:48 well, $2000 is just a number from the sky in my mind - I have no idea what that $2000 will be spent on 02:16:58 And make sure each step involving money is done in steps 02:17:04 Just saying factor it in 02:17:28 And it sounds like NOTHING was mentioned there. I THOUGHT someone brough tthis up there 02:17:51 nothing was mentioned but $5k is way more than we have ever spent on lugs and release parties 02:17:57 * MarkDude is actually surprised, and dont want to take the whole meeting 02:18:11 Possible objection 02:18:20 Just voicing it- 02:18:25 and of course that number isn't swag/media 02:18:27 inode0: ok- makes sense 02:18:31 eof 02:18:33 brb switching clients 02:18:37 there is no point to object without any basis for objecting 02:18:44 Ok 02:19:08 Lets stop the meeting to go over local merits of Fedora- that were discussed at FUDcon I went to? 02:19:22 lets dont 02:19:23 what? 02:19:26 I mean- am I able to voice I *may* ov=bject? 02:19:31 yes kk4ewt 02:19:39 POSSIBLE objection 02:19:45 Let me look at details 02:20:12 But - as I said lets move on 02:20:20 MarkDude: you can certainly lobby for a change - please don't object without any basis and who says that $2k of that $5k couldn't go to your area? 02:20:42 We haven't been told what you need or want so we can't budget it in specifically at this point. 02:21:15 table it. 02:21:20 Will bring it up later 02:21:38 Ping me if VWbus is not here for Scale part :) 02:21:42 the budget can not be tabled it has to be sent 02:21:45 #info MarkDude reserves the right to object to the budget later after it has been set in stone :) 02:21:48 Send it 02:22:10 ok, anyone want to add anything more about FADNA? 02:22:35 We have a list of SOPs developed or being developed - shall we try to go over them one per week maybe? 02:22:46 +1 02:22:46 inode0: I like that idea 02:22:50 +1 02:22:56 #link SOP list https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Ambassador_Day_North_America_2013#SOPs 02:23:19 ok, could someone pick one and drop it on next week's agenda? 02:23:22 Above is the list of SOPs to find (see if they exist), update if so, or write 02:24:15 * inode0 is about to move on to tickets 02:24:21 +1 02:24:24 #tickets 02:24:26 https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9 02:25:06 * inode0 isn't quite sure which need to be dealt with though 02:25:20 .famnaticket 33 02:25:24 inode0: #33 (2012 Fedora Merchandise Order) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/33 02:25:42 Is there anything more to be done with this ticket? 02:25:43 shirts arrived, still need to be paid for though 02:26:09 I'll close this ticket after getting payment squared away I guess. 02:26:17 sweet about the arrival, bummer about the bill :D 02:26:24 +1 02:26:31 .famnaticket 36 02:26:33 inode0: #36 (Fedora Ambassador Day North America (FADNA)) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/36 02:26:45 we can close that one finally 02:26:58 Writing my event report as we speak 02:27:01 this can be closed now I think unless people would like to link in some reporting 02:27:27 we should link in reports - can we do that before next week and close it then? 02:27:30 working on mine as well 02:27:40 inode0: +1 02:27:49 * dan408 will looks at others reports and draft his own 02:28:03 #action link your FADNA event report to ticket by next week's meeting 02:28:04 I look forward to reading them 02:28:08 .famnaticket 47 02:28:10 inode0: #47 (New Events for FY14) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/47 02:28:35 MarkDude: did you create a ticket for CLS West 2013? 02:28:40 this one I think we might keep open in case we have more ideas but we can remove it from the agenda 02:28:48 obviously not 02:28:52 inode0: agreed 02:29:16 ok, we have two event tickets 02:29:23 .famnaticket 48 02:29:24 Waiting to do that 02:29:27 inode0: #48 (PyCon 2013 March 13 - 21, Santa Clara, CA) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/48 02:29:39 Grant was unable to make it- no big costs there anyway 02:29:53 Let's talk about pycon now please 02:30:13 I added this ticket today with links to the sponsorship prospectus and b/c registration is open 02:30:21 Red Hat is a major sponsor of this event and we are too late it appears to get a free OSS booth 02:30:21 * masta is here 02:30:39 Should I reach out to Toshio to see 1. if he will own it, and 2. what he needs from us? 02:31:05 abadger1999: ^^^ 02:31:11 * inode0 reaches out right now :0 02:31:12 * dan408 may do 1 day for PyCon but seriously doubt it 02:31:21 oops, lol 02:31:38 btw, Pycon Expo floor dates have been extended 02:31:40 normally we send some media and swag to toshio to take with him 02:31:48 I also updated the attendance estimate 02:32:10 from 1000 attendees to 2500+ (according to the pycon website) 02:32:19 on the events page 02:32:26 he mentioned whatever we sent last year was about perfect so if we can recover that information we should make a care package for him before the event 02:32:46 * dan408 proposes that we should do a local meetup for PyCon attendees on a Friday or saturday night if they are interested 02:33:44 #info It is too late to get a free OSS booth at PyCon 02:33:50 other than that im perfectly fine with toshio taking care of it on his own 02:33:56 and graphite6 02:34:27 I think we should note to attend to this event earlier next year as I think a booth would be nice to try 02:34:43 #info Determine amount of media and swag we sent last year and do a repeat care package for abadger1999 this year 02:34:44 problem is it's a week long+ event 02:35:16 that is a bit much 02:35:27 #action attend to PyCon earlier next year as a booth would be nice 02:35:28 with planning that might not be a big problem and we don't have to be there the entire week 02:35:46 +1 inode0 02:35:52 #idea do a local meetup for PyCon attendees on a Friday or saturday night if they are interested 02:35:55 anyway, that can be discussed for next year 02:36:32 dan408: ping abadger1999 about when that might work for the people going 02:36:55 next? 02:37:02 an event page also needs to be set up 02:37:24 and I'm not it :) 02:37:29 dan408: ^^^ :) 02:37:45 you seem nearby 02:37:53 dan IS 02:37:57 :D 02:38:20 inode0: ok 02:38:25 thanks 02:38:50 #action dan408 will ping abadger1999 about PyCon meetup 02:38:52 #action dan408 to set up event page for pycon and look into a meetup with Fedora attendees and locals 02:39:19 a double action for our superhero 02:39:20 * graphite6 semi-jinx 02:39:33 .famnaticket 49 02:39:35 inode0: #49 (Northeast LinuxFest 2013, March 16 - 17, Harvard) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/49 02:39:46 chanchito: ping-a-ling 02:39:53 :) 02:40:01 I set this ticket up since this event is also pretty soon 02:40:10 hey folks 02:40:13 greetings all 02:40:16 #info NELF registration is open 02:40:24 welcome back chanchito 02:40:30 chanchito: Hi, we missed you! 02:40:40 yes i am in contact with the organizer, jonathan nadeau regularly via email and podcast 02:40:41 * masta waves 02:41:14 we have been promised gold level sponsorship 02:41:20 by who? 02:41:28 the organizer 02:41:37 jonathan nadeau 02:41:41 for free? 02:41:55 i offered to give several talks, and povide an event booth, on site installs, etc 02:42:05 this year we're at harvard, and MIT is down the street 02:42:16 so students from both CS schools will be there 02:42:23 what can we do to make NELF happy? 02:42:31 we need to make a splash 02:42:35 what is the deal on the sponsorship? 02:42:37 event booth, banners, 02:42:53 jonathan said we can have gold level sponsorship 02:43:04 * inode0 can't parse that precisely 02:43:05 cost? 02:43:09 we just need to make a good splash, he wants us to be extremely visibile 02:43:30 can just have because he likes us? or we can pony up $2k for it? 02:43:37 * MarkDude says chanchito covers his personal expenses- and will make a splash for sure. 02:43:42 bronze level for $500 will get us GOLD level 02:43:53 thats better 02:43:54 ok, that is wonderful 02:44:11 taht is a great deal 02:44:15 *that 02:44:18 I agree 02:44:22 * MarkDude asks that chanchito see if he can record some. Seeing him in action is good for Fedora in general 02:44:22 so we get the full page ad, premium placement, dedicated classrooms just for fedora talks and demos 02:44:30 w00t! 02:44:38 :) 02:44:59 chanchito: I saw the tentative schedule, what does the 2 full days of 'Fedora camp' entail? 02:45:01 he asked that we deliver talks on virtualization (in progress) and accessibility 02:45:10 Are papers still open? 02:45:15 yes 02:45:32 #info NELF call for papers is open 02:45:33 Is there a link or by invitation or what? 02:45:36 the fedora camp is going to be a promotional/recruitment type scene, 02:45:42 * inode0 can't find where to propose a talk 02:45:52 there is a page for listing speakers 02:45:54 inode0: it's the same link as registration 02:46:03 ill update the event page and post all the info 02:46:06 probably this weekend 02:46:08 you register and submit a talk in tandem 02:46:38 well, i dont have to submit mine, i just need to list the title of my talks about fedora, and the rooms will be labeled and marked 02:46:56 we are getting the entire computer science building at hardvard for this event 02:46:59 for two days 02:47:00 hrm 02:47:02 #info at the bronze level sponsorship price of $500, Fedora will get Gold level level 02:47:03 ok 02:47:06 yes 02:47:37 #info NELF sponsorship includes full page ad, premium placement, dedicated classrooms just for fedora talks and demos 02:47:54 i am willing to split the cost of sponsorship with fedora, in return for lots of shirts, to hand out ONLY to qualified interested students, protential volunteers 02:48:06 Thanks chanchito, we'll need to keep on top of this to make sure we have a great event this year. 02:48:13 we will 02:48:15 very excited 02:48:20 #info fedora camp is going to be a promotional/recruitment type scene 02:48:23 im recruiting some student volunteers as well 02:48:28 correct 02:48:54 We do need to move on tonight because open floor is bound to be packed with events not on the agenda 02:49:00 sorry 02:49:07 no problem 02:49:08 please continue sir 02:49:40 NELF will stay on the agenda in upcoming weeks 02:49:53 #topic Open Floor 02:49:57 ok thx a million! appreciate the spotlight for it 02:50:10 So vw did NOT file a ticket for SCALE? 02:50:15 * masta will see if any of the MIT crowd wouldbe interested in giving a fedora talk 02:50:23 at NELF 02:50:25 masta: +1 02:50:52 Not sure what to do- I filed the ticket with him I was asked to- for the 75cds 02:50:57 OK please coordinate with me, since i have to submit a list of speakers and organize which classrooms and times, and also make sure the event booth is manned 02:50:58 might be a good place for some arm folks 02:51:58 75 cds? 02:52:03 We are getting closer to Scale, and some details concern me- like do we have a screen for the Pis- biker MAY bring one 02:52:29 there is an event page, there is no tracking ticket for the meeting 02:52:30 Yes inode0 Orv from Scale asked for that many for a Linux class they are having 02:52:30 MarkDude, for what pis? 02:52:41 Nb shut the hell up 02:52:41 MarkDude, we have no cds 02:52:44 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SCALE_11X_Event 02:52:50 * MarkDude will deal with you later :) 02:52:59 * MarkDude is confused at this point 02:52:59 MarkDude, umm, why don't you act civil 02:53:08 Ok Cartman 02:53:18 #endmeeting