01:00:17 <masta> #startmeeting FAmNA 01:00:17 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Mar 20 01:00:17 2013 UTC. The chair is masta. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:00:17 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 01:00:17 <masta> #meetingname FAmNA 01:00:17 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 01:00:17 <masta> #topic === FAmNA Roll Call === 01:00:33 <award3535> present 01:00:40 <masta> howdy 01:00:55 <award3535> evening masta 01:01:43 <award3535> in know inode0 is here 01:01:51 <dan408> here 01:01:57 <masta> award3535: he might be busy 01:01:57 <chanchito> present 01:02:17 <masta> =) 01:02:22 <inode0> I should be able to pay attention tonight if I can stay connected 01:03:12 <masta> we will start soon 01:03:37 <masta> #chair dan408 inode0 award3535 chanchito 01:03:37 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 chanchito dan408 inode0 masta 01:03:49 <masta> #topic === Announcements === 01:04:29 <award3535> anyone have anything 01:04:46 <masta> #topic === Tickets === 01:04:47 <masta> #link https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9 01:05:29 <masta> looks like some tickets need to start the process to close 01:05:38 <award3535> I agree 01:06:14 <masta> looks like PyCon is happening right now? 01:06:28 <masta> anybody here at PyCon ? 01:06:34 <dan408> pycon is over 01:06:37 <dan408> close it out 01:06:44 <dan408> herlo can deal with funding on his own 01:06:46 <award3535> +1 01:06:54 <dan408> here 01:06:56 <dan408> ill update it 01:07:07 <award3535> NELF finished last weekend also 01:07:24 <dan408> any reports for PyCon should come from abadger1999 or herlo 01:08:00 <masta> looks like herlo has a sep ticket for pycon hotel, etc 01:08:01 <dan408> media was there.. for the expo 01:08:10 <dan408> yep which should go to famarequests 01:08:17 <inode0> herlo, if abadger1999 reports that is a bonus 01:08:23 <masta> so we can move to close #48 and #49 once they have reports 01:08:30 <inode0> we usually close tickets after reports 01:08:35 <chanchito> the NELF report has been posted to the event ticket, the link to the blog is there 01:08:45 <chanchito> all set 01:08:57 <chanchito> i wanted to raise one issue before we close tonight 01:09:01 <dan408> have herlo write a report before you reimburse him then :) 01:09:25 <masta> chanchito: great, will you be closing that ticket #49 ? 01:09:37 <chanchito> i guess so, sure, might as well 01:09:38 <masta> dan408: +1 01:09:42 <chanchito> +1 01:09:50 <masta> report before reimburst 01:09:57 <masta> nice incentive 01:10:01 <dan408> ticket closed. 01:10:05 <inode0> shrug, just mark the ticket without the meeting tag if it bothers you 01:10:07 <award3535> thats the way it works 01:10:18 <dan408> i did my job 01:10:38 <dramsey> :) 01:10:40 <masta> ok, so I'm going to gloss oveer tickets tonight 01:10:40 <dramsey> +1 dan408 01:11:13 <masta> #topic == Who will be the next FAmNA meeting chair? == 01:11:15 <award3535> next week I will be looking to get things moving for SELT 01:11:29 <award3535> SELF that is 01:11:34 <dan408> we aren't done with tickets 01:12:06 <masta> #undo 01:12:06 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Topic object at 0x270d1d10> 01:12:36 <masta> dan408: what do you want to chat about? 01:12:39 <dan408> .famnaticket 52 01:12:41 <zodbot> dan408: #52 (Sponsorship for Hotel at PyCon) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/52 01:12:46 <dan408> updated the ticket 01:12:50 <dan408> on herlo 01:12:56 <dan408> .famnaticket 49 01:12:58 <zodbot> dan408: #49 (Northeast LinuxFest 2013, March 16 - 17, Harvard) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/49 01:13:12 <dan408> #topic Northeast LinuxFest 2013, March 16 - 17, Harvard 01:13:21 <masta> dan408: NELF was to be closed out 01:13:28 <dan408> i see a ticket.. 01:13:41 <masta> dan408: chanchito just said he would close that one 01:13:54 <dan408> ChanServ: did you receive a reply from rbergeron and inode0? 01:13:56 <masta> that leaves #50 01:14:03 <dan408> err 01:14:05 <dan408> chanchito* 01:14:14 <dan408> okay event over? 01:14:17 <dan408> sweet 01:14:28 <dan408> .famnaticket 50 01:14:30 <zodbot> dan408: #50 (LinuxFest NorthWest 2013, Apr 27-28, Bellingham, WA) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/50 01:14:37 <dan408> .topic LinuxFest NorthWest 2013, Apr 27-28, Bellingham, WA 01:14:40 <inode0> I don't see a report in #48 01:14:49 <inode0> or #49 01:15:10 <chanchito> it says i dont have ticket_view privileges to see/edit ticket #49 01:15:28 <dan408> chanchito: click login 01:15:34 <chanchito> i was logged in 01:15:39 <chanchito> still am 01:15:45 <dan408> https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/49 01:15:47 <dan408> works for me 01:15:58 <dan408> comment:4 Changed 7 days ago by chanchito 01:15:58 <dan408> Max Mether has confirmed he will be speaking at the NELF as well. 01:16:23 <dan408> got it? 01:16:32 <dan408> you were having browser issues last week too iirc 01:16:37 <dan408> oh 01:16:42 <dan408> #announcement trac email should be fixed 01:17:10 <dan408> there was a setting on the backend that was also causing issues with famna trac 01:17:38 <dan408> still though 01:17:45 <dan408> i didnt get an email about the trac ticket i just closed 01:17:50 <dan408> so ill continue to work with infra on that 01:18:01 <inode0> or the fact that I just reopened it :) 01:18:09 <dan408> regardless 01:18:10 <dan408> 0 email 01:18:12 <inode0> I didn't get mail either 01:18:13 <masta> ok, so the plan is for tickets $48 and #49 to be closed by their owners once they have reports. 01:18:26 <award3535> +1 01:18:39 <inode0> anyone who can can close them once reports are in 01:18:39 <masta> shall we talk about #50 ? 01:18:43 * inode0 usually does it 01:19:15 <masta> #info ticket #48 & #49 to be closed as soon as they have event reports 01:19:21 <inode0> Is anyone going to LFNW here? 01:19:31 <award3535> nope too far for me 01:19:33 <dan408> rbergeron 01:19:34 <davdunc> inode0, I am in the area. 01:19:36 <masta> I think Robyn said she was 01:19:42 <davdunc> I'll be going. 01:19:52 <dan408> davdunc: where you at? 01:19:57 <davdunc> Seattle. 01:19:59 <dan408> davdunc: hi 01:20:02 <dan408> davdunc: welcome 01:20:07 <inode0> I just asked because unless someone going wants to talk about it I'm not sure what we can talk about. 01:20:11 <davdunc> dan408, thanks. 01:20:12 <award3535> yes welcome davdun 01:20:28 <dan408> there's really not much to talk about 01:20:32 <inode0> davdunc: culture shock? 01:20:38 <dan408> it's in 3 months 01:20:39 <masta> ok..... moving on 01:20:41 <davdunc> inode0, you know it. 01:20:45 <chanchito> OK closed 01:20:58 <masta> chanchito: thanks! 01:21:04 <davdunc> k. if there is a need for a local poc, I am glad to help with it. 01:21:06 <award3535> seattle is cool place lived there in the 80s 01:21:10 <chanchito> i need #326 closed, same event 01:21:27 <inode0> davdunc: there definitely is need and it is a great event 01:21:28 <dan408> 326? 01:21:32 <dan408> is that in famarequests? 01:21:40 <chanchito> there were two tickets for that event 01:21:49 <chanchito> someone else owns 326 01:21:50 <inode0> yes, ben will close the ticket when it is ready 01:21:55 <masta> .famnaticket 50 01:21:55 <chanchito> i can only comment in it, 01:21:56 <zodbot> masta: #50 (LinuxFest NorthWest 2013, Apr 27-28, Bellingham, WA) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/50 01:22:13 <dan408> #action rbergeron to update ticket 01:22:19 <dan408> davdunc: who is mentoring you? 01:22:21 <masta> davdunc: we can use any help we can get for LFNW 01:22:33 <davdunc> dan408, I have been around for a while. 01:22:50 <davdunc> just lost touch after moving across the country twice in the last 12 mos. 01:22:58 <dan408> oh ok 01:23:19 <award3535> can relate to that, although i dont move any more 01:23:35 <masta> ok so we can move on now 01:23:42 <award3535> yes please 01:23:49 <masta> #topic == Who will be the next FAmNA meeting chair? == 01:23:53 <dan408> so davdunc: go ahead and add yourself to that ticket 01:24:07 <dan408> I'll do it next week 01:24:07 <davdunc> dan408, will do. 01:24:14 <masta> I elect dan408 to chair the next meeting 01:24:21 <award3535> =1 01:24:44 * rbergeron is here now 01:24:44 <rbergeron> sorry 01:24:45 <dan408> k 01:24:49 <rbergeron> and yes, we can use help for lfnw because otherwise the booth staff is thin 01:24:58 * rbergeron just picked up kids and had to eat dinner 01:25:04 <dan408> rbergeron: please update ticket 50 when you have time. thanks. 01:25:11 <rbergeron> dan408: ack 01:25:15 <dan408> davdunc has volunteered. 01:25:41 * rbergeron did make an event page, she recalls 01:25:46 <davdunc> :-) I am booth trained and a veteran of many events. 01:25:47 <dan408> yeah 01:25:50 <dan408> just need an update on trac 01:25:56 <rbergeron> kk 01:26:06 <dan408> which, coincidentally is still having issues with notifications 01:27:30 <dan408> probably same issue 01:27:39 <award3535> anything else on LFNW 01:27:44 <dan408> nope 01:27:59 <dan408> since there are more people here 01:28:02 <dan408> this week 01:28:19 <dan408> can we move to open floor or did you have anything masta? 01:28:22 <masta> #topic == Open Floor === 01:28:27 <rbergeron> not offhand - i need to basically propose some budget-y things and move forward 01:28:29 <dan408> okay 01:28:43 <masta> rbergeron: ok go ahead 01:28:45 <dan408> im going to be proposing a vote for a new FAmNA meeting time to the list 01:28:51 <dan408> please make your votes 01:28:53 <dan408> err 01:28:55 <dan408> proposals 01:28:57 <dan408> and we can vote 01:29:08 <dan408> i know nb's and inode0's preference already 01:29:41 <dan408> i would prefer friday evening or saturday early afternoon / late morning 01:30:11 <award3535> well Friday and saturday dont work for me 01:30:22 <dan408> okay so propose your time 01:30:25 <dan408> i'll add it to the list 01:30:34 <award3535> 10pm EST 01:30:43 <dan408> day? 01:30:46 <award3535> any day excpet for fri or sat 01:30:58 <rbergeron> dan408: maybe a whenisgood invite would be more effective 01:31:08 <dan408> rbergeron: im doing that 01:31:09 <rbergeron> not that it helps 01:31:09 <rbergeron> lol 01:31:17 <dan408> rbergeron: trying to figure out what to put here 01:31:20 <dan408> rbergeron: suggestions? 01:31:30 <award3535> when you porpose sat late aft would that be EST or PST 01:31:35 <dan408> rbergeron: rotating meetings have been thrown around too 01:32:08 <chanchito> i like rotation, as long as we have a page that shows the days we rotate, otherwise, like mister magoo, i will forget 01:32:12 <dan408> award: im talking like 10 or 11AM PST saturday morning / 1/2pm est 01:32:35 <dan408> chanchito: that's true. 01:32:47 <chanchito> im old 01:32:49 <dan408> well 01:32:54 <award3535> see that takes my whole day away on sat, I am usually not at home either 01:33:02 <dan408> i know that i have attended more apac meetings than famna meetings 01:33:04 <dan408> that's for sure 01:33:10 <chanchito> wow 01:33:23 <chanchito> i want to start attending the marketing meetings 01:33:29 <dan408> well 01:33:32 <dan408> let's keep it on topic 01:33:39 <dan408> do you have a time/day to throw in the hat? 01:33:43 <dan408> or i will start randomizing 01:33:53 <chanchito> i offered the idea of a rotating schedule last week 01:34:01 <dan408> if not rotating 01:34:06 <dan408> what would be the perfect time day 01:34:09 <dan408> you too rbergeron 01:34:33 <award3535> later in the evening is good for me on EST 01:34:41 <dan408> award3535: no specific day 01:34:42 <dan408> ? 01:34:43 <chanchito> evenings work better since i work late every day 01:35:04 <dan408> i think mornings are bad for everyone unless it's the weekend 01:35:34 <chanchito> i wont be able to make morning meetings, im at work before 8AM and not home until around 8PM 01:35:47 <dan408> okay 01:35:51 <chanchito> i could do a sunday meeting 01:35:53 <dan408> and on weekends? 01:35:56 <chanchito> i could do a saturday meeting 01:36:07 <dan408> noted 01:36:10 <chanchito> if we found a time that works for the majority, minus some exceptions 01:36:17 <dan408> the whole goal here: increase participation 01:36:23 <chanchito> there won't be one perfect time, impossible 01:36:27 <chanchito> exactly 01:36:50 <dan408> we might just want to do multiple meetings 01:37:05 <award3535> now that is a good idea 01:37:15 <chanchito> i used to watch Creature-Double-Feature saturday afternoon horror shows on channel 56, but i can skip that for meetings 01:37:32 <dan408> you can watch TV and type at the same time :P 01:37:36 <chanchito> yes 01:37:57 <dan408> rbergeron? 01:38:02 <chanchito> two meetings could be good, but the groups might be smaller as well 01:38:08 <award3535> I noticed most of the members are on the west coast, so more than one meeting with a bi-weekly with everyone would work 01:38:09 <rbergeron> hmm? 01:38:12 * rbergeron looks up 01:38:17 <dan408> rbergeron: what time/day is good for you? 01:38:19 <chanchito> imagine a west coast FAMNA and an east coast FAMNA 01:38:20 <dan408> for rbergeron 01:38:29 <chanchito> or north and south 01:38:29 <rbergeron> dan408: tell me whento show up and i'll come 01:38:36 <dan408> rbergeron: k 01:38:53 <rbergeron> but IMO - you increase participation by offering sometihng more interesting, not by having a better meeting time :) 01:38:54 <chanchito> when is the vernal equinox this year? :-) 01:39:00 <chanchito> true 01:39:04 <chanchito> very true 01:39:07 <dan408> rbergeron: sounds like a personal problem 01:39:08 <award3535> west and east with a main meeting at least once a month for big ticket items would also work 01:39:35 <rbergeron> yeah 01:39:47 <chanchito> i agree, besides periodic time changes, to share the inconveniences, we should improve our meetings too 01:39:49 <dan408> rbergeron: oh how can i count the ways to fix that problem 01:39:57 <rbergeron> but i will say - lots of people do work travel stuff on m and f 01:40:12 <rbergeron> t/w/th seem to be reasonable days - i don't know about the weekend thing - i think it cuts both ways 01:40:28 <dan408> i'll make a list of times 01:40:30 <dan408> people vote 01:40:39 <award3535> I have been attending the meetings for quite a while on Tuesdays now, I am usually here so as long as its feisable for me to attend I will be there 01:40:40 <dan408> im just trying to figure out what to put here 01:40:42 <chanchito> wednesday, middle of the week, hump dat 01:40:45 <chanchito> hump day 01:41:05 <chanchito> longest name of the week too 01:41:13 <chanchito> makes sense, right in the middle 01:41:37 <chanchito> tuesday night is garbage night here, so the meeting helps me remember to take the garbage out 01:41:37 <dan408> the people shall vote 01:41:41 <dan408> enough 01:41:47 <masta> thursday is good for me 01:41:56 <dan408> thursday what time 01:42:10 <masta> I like biz hours 01:42:24 <dan408> give me 1 exact 1 hour block 01:42:29 <dan408> and time zone 01:42:34 <dan408> and it will be put on the list 01:42:51 <masta> so demanding... how about a range from 10am EST to 4pm EST 01:43:01 <chanchito> EST - 10PM, CST - 9PM, MST - 8PM, PST - 7PM 01:43:12 <dan408> sigh 01:43:18 <dan408> okay 01:43:19 <dan408> noted 01:43:26 <chanchito> or 4-3-2-1 01:43:34 <dan408> nobody can say 1 specific time or day 01:43:35 <dan408> ? 01:43:37 <chanchito> if the 10-9-8-7 doesnt work 01:43:48 <award3535> I sugest a ticket be generated for this... 01:43:49 <chanchito> 10-9-8-7 01:43:53 <dan408> stop 01:43:58 <chanchito> all 4 time zones 01:44:07 <chanchito> sorry 01:44:09 <dan408> we're gunna do this by EST and PST 01:44:14 <dan408> i.e. 01:44:20 <dan408> Tuesday 6PM PST / 9PM EST 01:44:21 <dan408> or 01:44:28 <dan408> Friday 7PM PST / 10PM EST 01:44:54 <dan408> or Thursday 3PM PST / 6PM EST 01:45:01 <dan408> anyone have suggestions like that 01:45:02 <dan408> make them 01:45:06 <dan408> otherwise let's move on 01:45:23 <award3535> okay heres mine Tuesday 7PM PST / 10PM EST 01:45:27 <dan408> okay 01:45:28 <dan408> got it. 01:45:53 * inode0 blesses any time the people who most want to work can get together to work 01:46:03 <dan408> i want to work 01:46:04 <chanchito> +1 01:46:05 <masta> +1 01:46:08 <dan408> but i dont want to work while at work 01:46:25 <award3535> I agree, its distracting' 01:46:28 <chanchito> i cant anyway, IRC is blocked at work 01:46:36 <dan408> okay so there's a +2 01:46:37 <award3535> so is mine 01:46:47 <dan408> next open floor topic 01:46:49 <dan408> media 01:46:52 <inode0> at the moment I just have no time at work 01:47:02 * inode0 misses the old days 01:47:06 <dan408> should various people open various trac tickets for various shippers? 01:47:33 <chanchito> i will be returning the event box and banners back to Ben Williams at VT tomorrow evening 01:47:43 <chanchito> via UPS 01:47:52 <award3535> I thought for media we had regions, ours here on the east coast is ben williams 01:48:27 <dan408> we do. 01:49:38 <dan408> trac having email notification issuies is not helping 01:50:47 <award3535> well we should have the communications issues fixed in the mean time I have no problem sending a separte email letting people know whats going on 01:51:01 <dan408> please do 01:51:05 <dan408> the list is dead 01:51:24 <award3535> what list are you refering to 01:51:27 <dan408> #action dan408 to have a time and date to vote on for a new official meeting time if not the same one 01:51:33 <dan408> award3535: ambassadors@ 01:52:13 <dramsey> +1 01:53:04 <chanchito> FYI, the NELF organizers are still waiting for the PayPal invoice to be paid for the event, before I forget 01:53:07 <chanchito> sorry just a reminder 01:53:20 <chanchito> forgot to mention it earlier 01:53:37 <dan408> chanchito: i was going to ask you if you got a reply from inode0 and rbergeron 01:53:43 <dan408> ping inode0 + rbergeron 01:54:01 <chanchito> thx dan, inode0, rbergeron 01:54:25 <dan408> well 01:54:26 <dan408> i meant 01:54:29 <nb> i am kinda here 01:54:36 <dan408> ping inode0 rbergeron answer chanchito please 01:54:42 <dan408> hi nb 01:55:09 <inode0> I don't know who anyone might have got a reply from other than not me 01:55:34 <dan408> wat 01:55:41 <award3535> ??? 01:55:49 <inode0> I did not reply - I can't speak for anyone else 01:56:06 <dan408> you're not inode0? 01:56:15 <inode0> ok 01:56:50 <award3535> ? 01:57:20 <chanchito> i gotta split in 3 mins, apologies, im on call this week, and have to get on a bridge, thanks for all the help, be safe and talk to everyone next week, adios! 01:57:25 <dan408> inode0: chanchito is awaiting a reply from either you or rbergeron 01:57:42 <inode0> ok 01:59:15 <masta> one more min 01:59:40 <dan408> okayi got notifications on a new ticket i opened 01:59:43 <dan408> whatever 01:59:48 <dan408> trac we'll deal with another dya 02:00:03 <award3535> until next week, everyone have a great evening 02:00:08 <masta> #endmeeting