01:00:17 #startmeeting FAmNA 01:00:17 Meeting started Wed Mar 20 01:00:17 2013 UTC. The chair is masta. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:00:17 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 01:00:17 #meetingname FAmNA 01:00:17 The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 01:00:17 #topic === FAmNA Roll Call === 01:00:33 present 01:00:40 howdy 01:00:55 evening masta 01:01:43 in know inode0 is here 01:01:51 here 01:01:57 award3535: he might be busy 01:01:57 present 01:02:17 =) 01:02:22 I should be able to pay attention tonight if I can stay connected 01:03:12 we will start soon 01:03:37 #chair dan408 inode0 award3535 chanchito 01:03:37 Current chairs: award3535 chanchito dan408 inode0 masta 01:03:49 #topic === Announcements === 01:04:29 anyone have anything 01:04:46 #topic === Tickets === 01:04:47 #link https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9 01:05:29 looks like some tickets need to start the process to close 01:05:38 I agree 01:06:14 looks like PyCon is happening right now? 01:06:28 anybody here at PyCon ? 01:06:34 pycon is over 01:06:37 close it out 01:06:44 herlo can deal with funding on his own 01:06:46 +1 01:06:54 here 01:06:56 ill update it 01:07:07 NELF finished last weekend also 01:07:24 any reports for PyCon should come from abadger1999 or herlo 01:08:00 looks like herlo has a sep ticket for pycon hotel, etc 01:08:01 media was there.. for the expo 01:08:10 yep which should go to famarequests 01:08:17 herlo, if abadger1999 reports that is a bonus 01:08:23 so we can move to close #48 and #49 once they have reports 01:08:30 we usually close tickets after reports 01:08:35 the NELF report has been posted to the event ticket, the link to the blog is there 01:08:45 all set 01:08:57 i wanted to raise one issue before we close tonight 01:09:01 have herlo write a report before you reimburse him then :) 01:09:25 chanchito: great, will you be closing that ticket #49 ? 01:09:37 i guess so, sure, might as well 01:09:38 dan408: +1 01:09:42 +1 01:09:50 report before reimburst 01:09:57 nice incentive 01:10:01 ticket closed. 01:10:05 shrug, just mark the ticket without the meeting tag if it bothers you 01:10:07 thats the way it works 01:10:18 i did my job 01:10:38 :) 01:10:40 ok, so I'm going to gloss oveer tickets tonight 01:10:40 +1 dan408 01:11:13 #topic == Who will be the next FAmNA meeting chair? == 01:11:15 next week I will be looking to get things moving for SELT 01:11:29 SELF that is 01:11:34 we aren't done with tickets 01:12:06 #undo 01:12:06 Removing item from minutes: 01:12:36 dan408: what do you want to chat about? 01:12:39 .famnaticket 52 01:12:41 dan408: #52 (Sponsorship for Hotel at PyCon) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/52 01:12:46 updated the ticket 01:12:50 on herlo 01:12:56 .famnaticket 49 01:12:58 dan408: #49 (Northeast LinuxFest 2013, March 16 - 17, Harvard) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/49 01:13:12 #topic Northeast LinuxFest 2013, March 16 - 17, Harvard 01:13:21 dan408: NELF was to be closed out 01:13:28 i see a ticket.. 01:13:41 dan408: chanchito just said he would close that one 01:13:54 ChanServ: did you receive a reply from rbergeron and inode0? 01:13:56 that leaves #50 01:14:03 err 01:14:05 chanchito* 01:14:14 okay event over? 01:14:17 sweet 01:14:28 .famnaticket 50 01:14:30 dan408: #50 (LinuxFest NorthWest 2013, Apr 27-28, Bellingham, WA) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/50 01:14:37 .topic LinuxFest NorthWest 2013, Apr 27-28, Bellingham, WA 01:14:40 I don't see a report in #48 01:14:49 or #49 01:15:10 it says i dont have ticket_view privileges to see/edit ticket #49 01:15:28 chanchito: click login 01:15:34 i was logged in 01:15:39 still am 01:15:45 https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/49 01:15:47 works for me 01:15:58 comment:4 Changed 7 days ago by chanchito 01:15:58 Max Mether has confirmed he will be speaking at the NELF as well. 01:16:23 got it? 01:16:32 you were having browser issues last week too iirc 01:16:37 oh 01:16:42 #announcement trac email should be fixed 01:17:10 there was a setting on the backend that was also causing issues with famna trac 01:17:38 still though 01:17:45 i didnt get an email about the trac ticket i just closed 01:17:50 so ill continue to work with infra on that 01:18:01 or the fact that I just reopened it :) 01:18:09 regardless 01:18:10 0 email 01:18:12 I didn't get mail either 01:18:13 ok, so the plan is for tickets $48 and #49 to be closed by their owners once they have reports. 01:18:26 +1 01:18:39 anyone who can can close them once reports are in 01:18:39 shall we talk about #50 ? 01:18:43 * inode0 usually does it 01:19:15 #info ticket #48 & #49 to be closed as soon as they have event reports 01:19:21 Is anyone going to LFNW here? 01:19:31 nope too far for me 01:19:33 rbergeron 01:19:34 inode0, I am in the area. 01:19:36 I think Robyn said she was 01:19:42 I'll be going. 01:19:52 davdunc: where you at? 01:19:57 Seattle. 01:19:59 davdunc: hi 01:20:02 davdunc: welcome 01:20:07 I just asked because unless someone going wants to talk about it I'm not sure what we can talk about. 01:20:11 dan408, thanks. 01:20:12 yes welcome davdun 01:20:28 there's really not much to talk about 01:20:32 davdunc: culture shock? 01:20:38 it's in 3 months 01:20:39 ok..... moving on 01:20:41 inode0, you know it. 01:20:45 OK closed 01:20:58 chanchito: thanks! 01:21:04 k. if there is a need for a local poc, I am glad to help with it. 01:21:06 seattle is cool place lived there in the 80s 01:21:10 i need #326 closed, same event 01:21:27 davdunc: there definitely is need and it is a great event 01:21:28 326? 01:21:32 is that in famarequests? 01:21:40 there were two tickets for that event 01:21:49 someone else owns 326 01:21:50 yes, ben will close the ticket when it is ready 01:21:55 .famnaticket 50 01:21:55 i can only comment in it, 01:21:56 masta: #50 (LinuxFest NorthWest 2013, Apr 27-28, Bellingham, WA) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/50 01:22:13 #action rbergeron to update ticket 01:22:19 davdunc: who is mentoring you? 01:22:21 davdunc: we can use any help we can get for LFNW 01:22:33 dan408, I have been around for a while. 01:22:50 just lost touch after moving across the country twice in the last 12 mos. 01:22:58 oh ok 01:23:19 can relate to that, although i dont move any more 01:23:35 ok so we can move on now 01:23:42 yes please 01:23:49 #topic == Who will be the next FAmNA meeting chair? == 01:23:53 so davdunc: go ahead and add yourself to that ticket 01:24:07 I'll do it next week 01:24:07 dan408, will do. 01:24:14 I elect dan408 to chair the next meeting 01:24:21 =1 01:24:44 * rbergeron is here now 01:24:44 sorry 01:24:45 k 01:24:49 and yes, we can use help for lfnw because otherwise the booth staff is thin 01:24:58 * rbergeron just picked up kids and had to eat dinner 01:25:04 rbergeron: please update ticket 50 when you have time. thanks. 01:25:11 dan408: ack 01:25:15 davdunc has volunteered. 01:25:41 * rbergeron did make an event page, she recalls 01:25:46 :-) I am booth trained and a veteran of many events. 01:25:47 yeah 01:25:50 just need an update on trac 01:25:56 kk 01:26:06 which, coincidentally is still having issues with notifications 01:27:30 probably same issue 01:27:39 anything else on LFNW 01:27:44 nope 01:27:59 since there are more people here 01:28:02 this week 01:28:19 can we move to open floor or did you have anything masta? 01:28:22 #topic == Open Floor === 01:28:27 not offhand - i need to basically propose some budget-y things and move forward 01:28:29 okay 01:28:43 rbergeron: ok go ahead 01:28:45 im going to be proposing a vote for a new FAmNA meeting time to the list 01:28:51 please make your votes 01:28:53 err 01:28:55 proposals 01:28:57 and we can vote 01:29:08 i know nb's and inode0's preference already 01:29:41 i would prefer friday evening or saturday early afternoon / late morning 01:30:11 well Friday and saturday dont work for me 01:30:22 okay so propose your time 01:30:25 i'll add it to the list 01:30:34 10pm EST 01:30:43 day? 01:30:46 any day excpet for fri or sat 01:30:58 dan408: maybe a whenisgood invite would be more effective 01:31:08 rbergeron: im doing that 01:31:09 not that it helps 01:31:09 lol 01:31:17 rbergeron: trying to figure out what to put here 01:31:20 rbergeron: suggestions? 01:31:30 when you porpose sat late aft would that be EST or PST 01:31:35 rbergeron: rotating meetings have been thrown around too 01:32:08 i like rotation, as long as we have a page that shows the days we rotate, otherwise, like mister magoo, i will forget 01:32:12 award: im talking like 10 or 11AM PST saturday morning / 1/2pm est 01:32:35 chanchito: that's true. 01:32:47 im old 01:32:49 well 01:32:54 see that takes my whole day away on sat, I am usually not at home either 01:33:02 i know that i have attended more apac meetings than famna meetings 01:33:04 that's for sure 01:33:10 wow 01:33:23 i want to start attending the marketing meetings 01:33:29 well 01:33:32 let's keep it on topic 01:33:39 do you have a time/day to throw in the hat? 01:33:43 or i will start randomizing 01:33:53 i offered the idea of a rotating schedule last week 01:34:01 if not rotating 01:34:06 what would be the perfect time day 01:34:09 you too rbergeron 01:34:33 later in the evening is good for me on EST 01:34:41 award3535: no specific day 01:34:42 ? 01:34:43 evenings work better since i work late every day 01:35:04 i think mornings are bad for everyone unless it's the weekend 01:35:34 i wont be able to make morning meetings, im at work before 8AM and not home until around 8PM 01:35:47 okay 01:35:51 i could do a sunday meeting 01:35:53 and on weekends? 01:35:56 i could do a saturday meeting 01:36:07 noted 01:36:10 if we found a time that works for the majority, minus some exceptions 01:36:17 the whole goal here: increase participation 01:36:23 there won't be one perfect time, impossible 01:36:27 exactly 01:36:50 we might just want to do multiple meetings 01:37:05 now that is a good idea 01:37:15 i used to watch Creature-Double-Feature saturday afternoon horror shows on channel 56, but i can skip that for meetings 01:37:32 you can watch TV and type at the same time :P 01:37:36 yes 01:37:57 rbergeron? 01:38:02 two meetings could be good, but the groups might be smaller as well 01:38:08 I noticed most of the members are on the west coast, so more than one meeting with a bi-weekly with everyone would work 01:38:09 hmm? 01:38:12 * rbergeron looks up 01:38:17 rbergeron: what time/day is good for you? 01:38:19 imagine a west coast FAMNA and an east coast FAMNA 01:38:20 for rbergeron 01:38:29 or north and south 01:38:29 dan408: tell me whento show up and i'll come 01:38:36 rbergeron: k 01:38:53 but IMO - you increase participation by offering sometihng more interesting, not by having a better meeting time :) 01:38:54 when is the vernal equinox this year? :-) 01:39:00 true 01:39:04 very true 01:39:07 rbergeron: sounds like a personal problem 01:39:08 west and east with a main meeting at least once a month for big ticket items would also work 01:39:35 yeah 01:39:47 i agree, besides periodic time changes, to share the inconveniences, we should improve our meetings too 01:39:49 rbergeron: oh how can i count the ways to fix that problem 01:39:57 but i will say - lots of people do work travel stuff on m and f 01:40:12 t/w/th seem to be reasonable days - i don't know about the weekend thing - i think it cuts both ways 01:40:28 i'll make a list of times 01:40:30 people vote 01:40:39 I have been attending the meetings for quite a while on Tuesdays now, I am usually here so as long as its feisable for me to attend I will be there 01:40:40 im just trying to figure out what to put here 01:40:42 wednesday, middle of the week, hump dat 01:40:45 hump day 01:41:05 longest name of the week too 01:41:13 makes sense, right in the middle 01:41:37 tuesday night is garbage night here, so the meeting helps me remember to take the garbage out 01:41:37 the people shall vote 01:41:41 enough 01:41:47 thursday is good for me 01:41:56 thursday what time 01:42:10 I like biz hours 01:42:24 give me 1 exact 1 hour block 01:42:29 and time zone 01:42:34 and it will be put on the list 01:42:51 so demanding... how about a range from 10am EST to 4pm EST 01:43:01 EST - 10PM, CST - 9PM, MST - 8PM, PST - 7PM 01:43:12 sigh 01:43:18 okay 01:43:19 noted 01:43:26 or 4-3-2-1 01:43:34 nobody can say 1 specific time or day 01:43:35 ? 01:43:37 if the 10-9-8-7 doesnt work 01:43:48 I sugest a ticket be generated for this... 01:43:49 10-9-8-7 01:43:53 stop 01:43:58 all 4 time zones 01:44:07 sorry 01:44:09 we're gunna do this by EST and PST 01:44:14 i.e. 01:44:20 Tuesday 6PM PST / 9PM EST 01:44:21 or 01:44:28 Friday 7PM PST / 10PM EST 01:44:54 or Thursday 3PM PST / 6PM EST 01:45:01 anyone have suggestions like that 01:45:02 make them 01:45:06 otherwise let's move on 01:45:23 okay heres mine Tuesday 7PM PST / 10PM EST 01:45:27 okay 01:45:28 got it. 01:45:53 * inode0 blesses any time the people who most want to work can get together to work 01:46:03 i want to work 01:46:04 +1 01:46:05 +1 01:46:08 but i dont want to work while at work 01:46:25 I agree, its distracting' 01:46:28 i cant anyway, IRC is blocked at work 01:46:36 okay so there's a +2 01:46:37 so is mine 01:46:47 next open floor topic 01:46:49 media 01:46:52 at the moment I just have no time at work 01:47:02 * inode0 misses the old days 01:47:06 should various people open various trac tickets for various shippers? 01:47:33 i will be returning the event box and banners back to Ben Williams at VT tomorrow evening 01:47:43 via UPS 01:47:52 I thought for media we had regions, ours here on the east coast is ben williams 01:48:27 we do. 01:49:38 trac having email notification issuies is not helping 01:50:47 well we should have the communications issues fixed in the mean time I have no problem sending a separte email letting people know whats going on 01:51:01 please do 01:51:05 the list is dead 01:51:24 what list are you refering to 01:51:27 #action dan408 to have a time and date to vote on for a new official meeting time if not the same one 01:51:33 award3535: ambassadors@ 01:52:13 +1 01:53:04 FYI, the NELF organizers are still waiting for the PayPal invoice to be paid for the event, before I forget 01:53:07 sorry just a reminder 01:53:20 forgot to mention it earlier 01:53:37 chanchito: i was going to ask you if you got a reply from inode0 and rbergeron 01:53:43 ping inode0 + rbergeron 01:54:01 thx dan, inode0, rbergeron 01:54:25 well 01:54:26 i meant 01:54:29 i am kinda here 01:54:36 ping inode0 rbergeron answer chanchito please 01:54:42 hi nb 01:55:09 I don't know who anyone might have got a reply from other than not me 01:55:34 wat 01:55:41 ??? 01:55:49 I did not reply - I can't speak for anyone else 01:56:06 you're not inode0? 01:56:15 ok 01:56:50 ? 01:57:20 i gotta split in 3 mins, apologies, im on call this week, and have to get on a bridge, thanks for all the help, be safe and talk to everyone next week, adios! 01:57:25 inode0: chanchito is awaiting a reply from either you or rbergeron 01:57:42 ok 01:59:15 one more min 01:59:40 okayi got notifications on a new ticket i opened 01:59:43 whatever 01:59:48 trac we'll deal with another dya 02:00:03 until next week, everyone have a great evening 02:00:08 #endmeeting