01:01:47 #startmeeting 01:01:47 Meeting started Wed May 8 01:01:47 2013 UTC. The chair is suehle_afk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:01:47 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 01:01:57 #chair inode0 award3535 01:01:57 Current chairs: award3535 inode0 suehle_afk 01:02:00 there, somebody did it :D 01:02:13 thanks, meetingname famna please 01:02:22 here 01:02:29 kinda mobile 01:02:35 * j_dulaney waves from the workshop 01:02:37 #meetingname famna 01:02:37 The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 01:02:44 * inode0 can do it himself now 01:03:42 lets roll 01:03:42 #topic Roll Call 01:03:56 here on mobile 01:03:56 wish me luck on the drive home hopefully will be home in a few. 01:04:08 * suehle here 01:04:39 here 01:04:57 #chair suehle davdunc dan408 01:04:57 Current chairs: award3535 dan408 davdunc inode0 suehle suehle_afk 01:05:11 #chair j_dulaney 01:05:11 Current chairs: award3535 dan408 davdunc inode0 j_dulaney suehle suehle_afk 01:05:34 #topic Announcements 01:06:06 #info FAmNA thanks Ruth for taking care of TXLF sponsorship and all the other stuff she takes care of 01:06:07 nothing new from me 01:06:30 * rbergeron is sort of here but driving home with dinner 01:06:40 10m :D 01:06:49 Aw, thanks. Any other fests of Linux need paying this week? :D 01:06:51 plus one 01:07:10 we have three on the agenda 01:07:17 suehle: Is it too late to get a SELF sponsor badge thingy? 01:07:19 * kk4ewt here 01:07:25 waiting for more onILF 01:07:30 anyone want to make a Flock announcement before we move on? 01:07:35 j_dulaney, I'm pretty sure you had already emailed me for your name on it, hadn't you? 01:07:39 #chair kk4ewt 01:07:39 Current chairs: award3535 dan408 davdunc inode0 j_dulaney kk4ewt suehle suehle_afk 01:07:55 Register, submit a talk? :) I assume everyone's seen the email with details? 01:08:23 suehle: I can't remember if I had or not 01:09:20 #topic tickets 01:09:33 does the topic seem off tonight? 01:10:24 https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9 01:10:41 .famnaticket 50 01:10:42 inode0: #50 (LinuxFest NorthWest 2013, Apr 27-28, Bellingham, WA) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/50 01:11:01 * inode0 thinks someone should probably close or remove that from the agenda now 01:11:24 plus one 01:12:00 ack 01:12:10 +1 01:12:28 * inode0 closes it 01:12:36 .famnaticket 56 01:12:37 inode0: #56 (Indiana LinuxFest) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/56 01:12:46 award3535: you have the floor 01:12:56 no update yet 01:13:29 waiting on answers from organizers on rooms area and availble spaces 01:13:33 ;/me here. 01:14:05 suggest tabling until next week once i get mored info 01:14:10 nice to see the website has been updated a lot 01:14:16 http://www.indianalinux.org/ 01:14:24 that was my big concern last week 01:14:32 so the CFP is now open 01:15:29 ok 01:15:41 .famnaticket 58 01:15:41 cool, but they still havent answered me on availble rooms the hotel where the event is is not availble on thoses dates 01:15:42 inode0: #58 (Texas Linux Fest 2013, May 31 - June 1, Austin TX) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/58 01:16:35 so Ruth took care of the sponsorship this week and we are now proudly squished between a hackerspace and centos 01:16:59 boxes got shipped from lfnw as well 01:17:06 cool wish i could go this year 01:17:06 travel is all arranged 01:17:08 * rbergeron notes that the banners need love 01:17:18 we do need to work out some swag/media details still 01:17:28 more specifically the stands 01:17:41 we could buy a new set of banners I think 01:17:41 rbergeron: How so? 01:17:54 If the banners themselves are good, I could make new stands 01:17:57 I wonder if we can buy new stands?! 01:18:10 They're pretty cheap 01:18:11 the poles are slightly bent 01:18:14 wait a dang minute whats wrong with the banners 01:18:23 (And we have quite a bit of budget left over this quarter) 01:18:24 screws at bottom have ... issues 01:18:34 one of them was mangled a bit on the stand last time I saw them 01:18:39 i will fix that when i get it 01:18:51 if i can 01:19:00 so they lean forward a bit - which is rectified by putting something underneath the front 01:19:00 that is the newest set 01:19:31 sounds like the screw needs retacted 01:19:32 What are they made of? 01:19:42 * j_dulaney has a whole shop full of raw materials 01:19:50 The screws go into posts 01:19:58 masta is going to take inventory of whatever swag we have on hand and ask nb to send the rest of what we need 01:20:10 would be nice to actually have a new design, tbh - they say fedora at the bottom 01:20:17 and not really easy to see a lot of the time 01:20:28 and if there's only room for one stand it's extra goofy 01:20:57 hi 01:20:58 well, if we didn't have so dang many foundations they would fit on one banner! 01:20:59 +1 new banners 01:21:02 In that case, I'm +1 for whole new ones 01:21:08 everything from TLF should come to me and i will take a lookat the banners and see what can be done 01:21:20 plus one new banners 01:21:21 remove Freedom pretend we are Circle Jerk of Friends :D 01:21:41 kk4ewt, the event box shoudl too? 01:21:46 yep 01:22:20 i thought i was sending central event box 01:22:28 * j_dulaney thinks dust mask might have been a good idea 01:22:31 although /me isn't complaining if you want to keep it also 01:22:34 we need to recover one event box from mario but in that will take months now so we should recover the missing parts from the west coast box NOW 01:23:09 or am i just supposed to be sending swag and stuff to fill up the west coast box for TXLF? 01:23:32 no, you send a box full of swag/media to TXLF and it goes to SELF next 01:23:44 inode0, oh ok, so you don't need the box itself? 01:23:47 or to kk4ewt on the way to SELF the next weekend 01:23:52 the event box? just the media and swag? 01:24:00 or you do need the event box (with laptop and stuff) 01:24:05 whatever is left from TXLF 01:24:17 we want the event box 01:24:32 ok 01:24:39 i will also bring a demo laptop to self, one of my personal ones 01:24:39 oh ok, and then it is going to kk4ewt for SELF 01:24:42 makes sense now, sorry 01:25:12 * j_dulaney will have Chromebook for SELF 01:25:24 so MarkDude, what will it take to recover the laptop that belongs in the west coast event box? 01:25:27 * MarkDude is using the laptop for BAMF stuff. Would like to talk about it iff possible. 01:25:31 back 01:25:42 j_dulaney: +1 01:26:04 so you are saying there is nothing we can do to recover the laptop for the event box? 01:26:11 No 01:26:17 Not at all. 01:26:24 * MarkDude follows the rules 01:26:30 as well as what is asked 01:26:38 Even more so if nice about it 01:26:48 we have an utterly useless event box now because nothing is in and when we need it we can't get the stuff 01:26:50 Seriosly am using it for BAMF 01:26:56 Evening folks. Sorry I'm late. 01:27:07 welcome KyleYankan 01:27:18 KyleYankan: FOSScon in a few 01:27:31 Gotcha. 01:27:33 MarkDude, I just looked at the BAMF page on the wiki. Can we not have a page on the /Fedora wiki/ that says two releases sucked and you're waiting for the next?! 01:27:43 LOL 01:27:49 * nb thinks we need the west coast laptop back in the event box 01:27:52 Sure suehle 01:28:08 Thats partr of the reason for my later ticket for Pre 19 release party 01:28:13 Thanks. Seems... logical. :) 01:28:27 * MarkDude will make it say "make more awesome" 01:28:38 * MarkDude was feeling snarky, apologizes :D 01:29:01 Really excited about 19 tho 01:29:33 #proposal FAmNA requests that MarkDude send the west coast laptop to dan408 to put in the West Coast Event Box 01:29:34 inode0: lets do details on laptop after meeting. 01:29:44 you need to just get it to me 01:29:47 along with fixing the olpc 01:29:48 nb- You were still a dick 01:29:49 * inode0 is about to move on to SELF but would really like to see the west coast event box have the stuff it is supposed to have be in it for events 01:29:52 No need for thast 01:30:03 MarkDude, you said you would send the laptop if requested 01:30:08 * nb was asking that famna request that 01:30:13 inode0: 01:30:17 anyone but you 01:30:20 * nb requests votes on my proposal 01:30:23 'You act like Cartman 01:30:25 +1 01:30:33 inode0: lets do details on laptop after meeting. 01:30:37 as sadi earlier. 01:30:39 MarkDude, let's do it in the meeting 01:30:59 Do we need to cwg? 01:31:03 * j_dulaney is +1 laptop being in event box; that's where it belongs 01:31:04 relax dude 01:31:16 this is old news 01:31:20 key was NOT dealing with you nb 01:31:30 Next item 01:31:34 Lapto[p will be sent 01:31:38 lets move on folks 01:31:42 MarkDude get the olpc fixed and send me the laptop 01:31:42 +1 01:31:49 get your stuff together 01:31:51 and that's it 01:31:51 Cool dan408 01:31:57 MarkDude, great, thank you for agreeing to send the laptop. 01:32:13 * inode0 thinks about whether to move on or whether to make a commentary about the tone of this meeting 01:32:18 Sure, ty for being nice :) 01:32:24 #action MarkDude to get OLPC fixed ASAP and get dan408 the laptop that belongs in the west coast event box 01:32:50 .famnaticket 54 01:32:51 inode0: #54 (Southeast Linux Fest Budget) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/54 01:33:07 kk4ewt or anyone else have anything on SELF 01:33:25 * rbergeron is sad to report she may not be there 01:33:32 not that i know of,as far as I know 01:33:32 boo 01:33:37 rbergeron: **pout* 01:33:46 * inode0 slipped a little more into his funding request 01:33:46 yeah, i feel the same way 01:34:00 i am running a Amatuer Radio Testing Session at SELF again 01:34:05 i am going to try though 01:34:09 * j_dulaney needs to modify his funding request ammount 01:34:17 Nice work kk4ewt. I need to upgrade soon. Need to get on HF 01:34:24 * inode0 will be talking about pencils if he can sort all the complications out in time 01:35:03 inode0: Are you going? 01:35:10 but right now it looks like i have to be in boston the week before through friday and back in boston on sunday night 01:35:13 inode0: I have a room booked if you want to share 01:35:31 rbergeron: hey, we can fly back together :) 01:35:59 inode0: i hope you're on usairways :D 01:36:06 * inode0 is getting into BOS about 8pm Sunday 01:36:14 * inode0 doesn't recall 01:36:46 jetblue 01:37:39 we'll figure it out - i need to do some negotiating 01:38:10 ok, that is all the tickets on the agenda tonight 01:38:18 #topic Open Floor 01:38:24 Fosscon 01:38:36 inode0: had asked about hive last meeting 01:38:49 We have a Hive member here KyleYankan 01:38:55 a ticket would be nice so it is on the agenda but is there a wiki page now? 01:39:00 Yes 01:39:02 Heyo. 01:39:02 Sorry 01:39:10 Tell a bit about hive 01:39:14 * MarkDude gets link 01:39:35 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FOSSCON_2013 01:39:51 http://fosscon.org/speakers CFP 01:39:55 Hive76 is a hackerspace in Philadelphia, PA. We hack/make/build/futz with a wide array of stuff from 3D printers, software projects, pinball machines, microcontrollers, etc. 01:40:40 https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/60 01:40:41 We support other projects around us as well, we used to host the Philly LUG (PLUG), we help out with FOSSCON, teach classes, etc. 01:40:56 cool 01:41:14 Ubuntu group is also having a Distro agnostic install fest- Fedora also :) 01:41:16 So I really like the idea and background surrounding fosscon 01:41:29 We try to do the best we can supporting Open Source projects for the most part, but obviously most of out stuff is hacked together specific-purpose stuff. 01:41:43 do we attend as Fedora 01:41:52 what we need to make something happen though is Fedora people who can be there - I do believe Fedora people would fit right in 01:41:58 pinball machines? /me wonders if spot is aware 01:42:09 They do cool stuff 01:42:23 * MarkDude was hoping we could see about getting more than $500 for it 01:42:34 * rbergeron notes it is in the middle of flock 01:42:35 i cant open the link on phone what are the dates 01:42:46 sigh 01:42:49 * spot perks up 01:42:50 * MarkDude is not attending. Helping via knowing JonathanD from Geeknic 01:43:11 Fedora would fit in perfectly with FOSSCON. They're looking for speakers right now, as MarkDude pointed out. http://fosscon.org/speakers http://fosscon.org/speakers If you want to give a talk, even as an individual, please feel free to hit us up in #fosscon or the link included 01:43:15 * dan408 waves at spot 01:43:22 It's August 10th this year award3535 01:43:24 still some fedora people may have a one day fosscon work for them 01:43:41 Agreed. 01:43:56 Kyle: Fedora's new developer conference is Aug 9-12 :( 01:44:00 oops 01:44:04 Bah, humbug. 01:44:22 FlocktoFedora.com 01:44:28 .org 01:44:33 Oops 01:44:35 yes i will be attending the developers conf 01:44:37 KyleYankan: very sorry man, maybe next year. 01:44:49 We bought the .com as well, but I don't think the redirect is working. 01:44:51 But let's see if we can someone to fosscon who perhaps can't go to flock 01:45:01 suehle, i can check on it, and see if i can fix it maybe 01:45:03 Hive appears to be a place to ponder for future events also, IMHO 01:45:04 get someone 01:45:24 nb, awesome... by "not working," I really just meant, "nobody did it yet" :D 01:45:26 No reason to apoligize to me. :-) But if anyone can't make the dev conference, they're quite welcome at FOSSCON, and we have open houses every wednesday at Hive76 01:45:27 KyleYankan: where is fosscon? 01:45:47 kk4ewt: Center City Philadelphia, PA 01:45:51 The local Ubuntu group is rather Distro agnostic and easy to get along with, No Distro wars 01:46:02 And Wednesday is Amish breakfast day at Reading Terminal. :) I'd love to visit next time I'm up. 01:46:07 suehle, WFM\ 01:46:13 MarkDude: I'd like to promote Nerf Wars between ya'll, but only because Nerf is fun. 01:46:21 im glad you guys decided to shorten flock from 7 days 01:46:27 * j_dulaney met some Amish on the train coming back from Kansas; cool people 01:46:29 +1 nerf funding for Flock 01:46:31 maybe i might try to make it out 01:46:32 it is? Shoot, now sleeping in doesn't sound so good suehle 01:46:36 good times in January 01:46:49 was flock shortened? 01:46:51 KyleYankan: ok maybe i can run up and have a fedora booth 01:46:52 KyleYankan, you should definitely check it out. Worth getting up for. 01:47:06 oh am i sucking at math? 01:47:15 kk4ewt: JonathanD (in #fosscon) is the organizer and should be able to help you out with logistics 01:47:31 same distance to charleston as philly for me 01:47:34 dan408: we should talk later re: devopsdays in mountain view in late june - are you around for a bit? 01:47:35 no, only 4 days are advertised but there was talk of partying for one and two for hackfests as well 01:47:44 rbergeron: yes ma'am. 01:47:47 rbergeron: phone please 01:48:08 rbergeron: you got dem digitz 01:48:25 soon there will be a hockey game on 01:48:31 and i will be drunk 01:48:39 as we sweep the nucks 01:48:44 KyleYankan: we'll keep looking and the more we talk the more likely we'll hit on someone 01:49:34 Funding vote continued till we find a lead? 01:50:03 I'd rather not vote on any funding until I know whether Fedora will be there or not 01:50:11 * j_dulaney is still not sure if his hotel funding for SELF is approved or not 01:50:11 Sounds good, inode0. We're certainly open to any ideas and help. Thanks for the support either way. 01:50:22 Fair enough. 01:50:35 https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/61 01:50:42 j_dulaney: it was, stop worrying about it :) 01:50:46 * MarkDude wants to do 3 day event in June 01:51:01 biker: will be heading to EMEA soon 01:51:13 And we want to do a FAD, Fedora Hackfest 01:51:16 and geeknic 01:51:20 AFAIK FADs go through rbergeron and suehle 01:51:29 * MarkDude assumes he talks to rbergeron later this week? 01:51:35 Ok ty nb. 01:51:46 well 01:51:49 it's time for a hockey game 01:51:54 spot: go B's! 01:51:54 And can we talk about fundinjg for Pre 19 release party> 01:51:56 ? 01:52:09 inode0: In that case, cool 01:52:14 You can tell us about it anyway 01:52:23 budget and wiki page where ? 01:52:32 MarkDude: budget and wiki page where ? 01:52:36 * inode0 isn't really familiar with pre-release parties :) 01:52:38 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BAMF_Pi_FAD 01:52:53 Budget would be travel of Biker to Norcal 01:53:04 And 200$ for food for picnic 01:53:06 seriously 01:53:14 * dan408 facepalms 01:53:23 inode0: suggested I ask spot about getting Pis 01:53:41 dan408: its well known you dont like Pi 01:53:54 * MarkDude is building towards us doing ARm 01:53:58 More than Pi 01:54:01 great job dude 01:54:04 MarkDude: I don't have very many left. 01:54:05 Starting small and doable 01:54:13 2-3? 01:54:17 * suehle notes that whatever's left is also 25 01:54:19 256 01:54:43 In that case funding for ONE with 512 01:54:52 And request for 2 01:54:58 i will GIVE you one 01:55:01 i think I have 2 01:55:06 256 is fine for server :) 01:55:11 Fedora rox there 01:55:33 * biker here 01:55:36 o/ 01:55:39 so this FAD is you and biker? 01:55:47 No 01:55:51 Akkana Peck also 01:56:02 took a bit to get her 01:56:04 you guys gunna write some C code and do some kernel hacking? 01:56:13 you gunna recompile fedora on armv6 with HFP? 01:56:17 http://www.shallowsky.com/ 01:56:26 you guys engage seneca.ca at all? 01:56:39 deliverables are at bottom of page 01:56:44 right 01:57:07 sexycatsinhats: also- Callum also - 01:57:15 We have a few Ambassadors 01:57:27 * MarkDude is taking dan408 's name off of BAMF tho 01:57:29 dan408: Actually, the armv6 build works quite well 01:57:33 the rest of the list will be there 01:57:49 New via Koji 01:57:54 Armv6 01:58:01 Sounds better than 5 also 01:58:04 j_dulaney: you have a flashable MATE remix i can test? 01:58:12 MarkDude, reiterating dan's question -- how does your first deliverable work with Seneca's work, or are you trying to reinvent the wheel? 01:58:14 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BAMF 01:58:39 A specific Remix that has HTML files with docs 01:58:50 omg 01:58:52 * nb wonders if we can remove (We sorta took a break whilst F17-18 sorta sucked. We are looking forward to F19, as well as the armv6 for Pi) 01:58:57 As well as ALL the libs needed to work with is 01:59:05 Yes nb 01:59:06 nb, I made the same request earlier in this meeting; he said he would 01:59:09 ok thanks 01:59:19 I agreed with suehle earlier that was not right on my part 01:59:26 Sorry 01:59:31 ok thanks 01:59:35 so anyways 01:59:36 Cool 01:59:36 it's 7pm 01:59:38 outta time 01:59:46 or 10 from this perspective :) 02:00:16 suehle: get some rest 02:00:29 * MarkDude will follow up with suehle about FAd part 02:00:37 * dan408 puts on the hockey game 02:00:38 ask rbergeron about Pre aprty idea 02:00:39 * inode0 thinks we should wait and see if the FAD comes together before making decisions about surrounding extra activities 02:00:57 The Geeknic will happen 02:00:58 rbergeron: im available whenever you need me 02:01:01 as I have done 10 + 02:01:12 And its tabled 02:01:16 Sorry biker 02:01:22 MarkDude: :( 02:01:25 it's ok (: 02:01:39 dan408: 's name was ust removed from bamf :D 02:01:44 Its all good 02:01:48 * dan408 cries 02:01:48 eof 02:01:57 Enjoy the hockey 02:02:17 #endmeeting 02:02:40 #endmeeting