01:00:01 #startmeeting FAmNA 01:00:01 Meeting started Wed Jun 26 01:00:01 2013 UTC. The chair is masta. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:00:01 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 01:00:01 #meetingname FAmNA 01:00:01 The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 01:00:01 #topic === FAmNA Roll Call === 01:00:11 hello 01:00:42 Welcome to the weekly Fedora North America Ambassadors IRC meet 01:00:42 * inode0 waves 01:01:08 .chair inode0 01:01:08 inode0 is seated in a chair with a nice view of a placid lake, unsuspecting that another chair is about to be slammed into them. 01:01:14 lol 01:01:27 #chair inode 01:01:27 Current chairs: inode masta 01:02:10 Will wait till 5 after the hour to allow others to join 01:02:30 * handsome_pirate wavs 01:02:38 hey there handsome_pirate 01:02:41 s/wavs/waves 01:03:07 sorry I am a late 01:03:25 no worries 01:03:34 #chair handsome_pirate award3535 01:03:34 Current chairs: award3535 handsome_pirate inode masta 01:03:51 we will get started in a short bit 01:04:59 #topic === Announcements === 01:05:45 I believe we have elections recently 01:06:15 * masta suspects this will be a short meeting 01:06:35 only one big item on the list and its mine 01:06:51 hi 01:06:55 #topic === Tickets === 01:07:01 evening dan408 01:07:13 #link https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9 01:07:44 .famnaticket 56 01:07:45 masta: #56 (Indiana LinuxFest) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/56 01:07:48 hello 01:08:03 that one is the one I am working on 01:08:09 #topic >>> #56 (Indiana LinuxFest) - FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/56 01:08:21 #chair dan408 01:08:21 Current chairs: award3535 dan408 handsome_pirate inode masta 01:08:35 award3535: you have the floor 01:08:53 everything seems to be going on track with ILF. they are aware the web site is a little lacking 01:09:00 thanks 01:09:01 Talks close on friday 01:09:36 I let them know that for the next year to make the site a little more appealing and easier to use 01:10:10 award3535: is there anything we need to decide for ILF? 01:10:15 the SELF folks are right on with their site, I referenced that one to them. 01:10:24 * nb would like to discuss media tonight 01:10:28 Nope, funding approved already 01:10:29 although i forgot to put it on the agenda 01:10:39 just waiting for sponsor payment 01:11:14 dont know who is going to pick up the tab for sponsor yet 01:11:31 * nb suggests inode0 or suehle 01:11:40 * nb is not aware of lh's current status, but she can if she is still around? 01:11:42 * masta 2nds that 01:11:48 they are aware of it 01:11:52 i thing 01:12:01 oops think 01:12:05 since it almost always requires agreeing to some terms I suggest Ruth or someone else who works for Red Hat 01:12:34 I agree, if she needs contact information I have it 01:13:13 I motion that award3535 harass Ruth until she pays 01:13:22 * handsome_pirate seconds 01:13:35 * nb thirds 01:13:41 okay i will get the information to her 01:14:20 #action award3535 to harass suehle for payment of ILF sponsorship 01:14:31 that is the last thing I need to ILF, unless nb could spare a few shirts for me to give out 01:14:38 award3535, I could. 01:14:41 file me a ticket 01:14:50 s/me a ticket/a ticket and assign it to me/ 01:15:03 okay will do nb 01:15:28 #action award3535 to setup a swag ticket to have NB send t-shirts 01:15:45 award3535: if you need any help let us know? 01:16:14 okay, thanks 01:16:22 sure 01:16:40 Is there anything more for ILF, may we move on? 01:16:48 nope good to go 01:16:52 thx 01:17:01 sorry on the phone here at work 01:17:10 alright that is all for tickets, we have two open that are pending reports to close 01:18:01 #topic media 01:18:07 So, I sent out an email to our media supplier asking for quotes for F19 media, but I think they didn't get the email, because normally they reply ASAP. I would like to go ahead and ask FAmNA to approve ordering 5,000 of the multi-live DVD-9's like we did last time, provided they come up with a quote that is similar to before, $1.10 each, total cost of $5,500 01:18:34 * handsome_pirate is +1 01:18:59 +1 01:19:01 tentativly agree 01:19:11 That way I don't have to wait another week to ask FAmNA to approve it, which will delay it another 2 weeks (because then we have to ask FAmSCo to approve it, which meets on Mondays) 01:19:16 would like to see more solid price, but the general area of 5.5k is good for me 01:19:31 so assuming i get a quote similar to last time (or hopefully cheaper), I can go ahead and ask FAmSCo to approve it this next Monday 01:19:53 why do we need to ask FAmSCo? it was in our regional budget 01:20:08 inode0, it is over 2k, which i think requires approval? 01:20:10 or maybe not 01:20:24 * inode0 thinks this is all ridiculous 01:20:31 proposal: a little bit of QA on the multi-lives, don't use the GA to compose the multi-lives 01:20:39 eitherway +1 01:20:45 All budget requests over $2000 need to be approved by FAmSCo. Regions deal with requests up to $2000 and each one has its own guidelines and rules for budget requests and reimbursements: 01:20:51 I thought media was a default approved expense? 01:20:59 or does that mean that only putting it in our budget requires approval, that actually spending it doesn't? 01:21:05 * inode0 considers it approved when our budget was approved containing it 01:21:09 inode0, good point 01:21:11 as long as it stays the same parameters as before 01:21:12 inode0, i do not object 01:21:21 wise inode0 01:21:38 yo quaid! 01:21:53 how many +1's do e have? 01:21:54 yo danO 01:21:58 4 +1's 01:21:59 +1 01:22:06 just a proposal 01:22:14 ok then 01:22:20 seems to pass 01:22:27 ack 01:22:35 dan408, I think it would be nice if someone could ask dgilmore to make a test multi-live 01:23:06 nb: I'll do that tomorrow 01:23:09 we don't necessarily have to have one for each RC, but to have something ahead of time to make sure alll the EFI and secure boot and all that fun stuff work ok still 01:23:13 nb: i was wondering today what we should actually put on it 01:23:25 i think i can compose one myself cant i dgilmore? 01:23:28 Ok, nvm then :) 01:23:31 nb: I'll ask him 01:23:43 dgilmore is here folks :P 01:24:15 #agree ordering 5,000 of the multi-live DVD-9's like we did last time, provided they come up with a quote that is similar to before, $1.10 each, total cost of $5,500 01:24:40 dgilmore, Desktop, KDE, LXDE, XFCE, MATE, SoaS (I'm not sure, is it usually on there?) I think? what were you thinking? 01:24:50 I think we usually put all of the desktops? 01:25:13 nb yep 01:25:21 All the desktops? 01:25:23 nb: SoaS is usually on, Mate is new 01:25:30 and i dont know all 6 will fit 01:25:32 So, where's Fluxbox been :) 01:25:47 handsome_pirate: the security spin is flux 01:25:50 my personal thought would be add MATE, as long as it doesn't make us oversize 01:25:56 which is like 8.something GB 01:26:10 you can skip Cinnamon probably but Cinnamon is only like 3 packages 01:26:23 dan408, i don't think we have a cinnamon spin do we? 01:26:27 or not one on the RC link at least 01:26:30 oh 01:26:32 no we dont 01:26:38 nevermind 01:27:24 dgilmore: we know you are busy, if you got time when would be the earliest we can expect to see an ISO image? 01:27:29 nb: inode0 suspect we will have to choose between mate and SoaS 01:27:38 i suspect even 01:27:41 sorry inode0 01:28:12 SoaS is for OLPCs 01:28:18 what's the point of including it on a multilive? 01:29:24 Because OLPC is one of the biggest installers of Fedora? 01:29:26 ok, this is now hard 01:29:29 I hate to pick favorite children. If a gun were pointed to my head, I'd choose to have MATE 01:29:55 SoaS is something people do enjoy looking at to get the feel of an XO 01:30:01 dan408, i guess to show it to people, and to tell them that it is based off of Fedora. I am kind of indifferent about which to keep, i think I kind of am leaning towards MATE, since it might be the most useful to people having the multilive images, but I would like to have SoaS because it shows off how Fedora is what sugar is based on 01:30:28 I'm not sure this is a decision that should be made in FamNA meeting 01:30:31 I'm not sure it is for FAmNA to decide 01:30:39 #proposal bring this up on mailing list since EMEA uses the multilive image also 01:30:48 ok, I'm sure it isn't for FAmNA to decide :) 01:30:59 Sounds like a FESCo punt to me 01:31:01 nb: ill make one with all 6 and see where we are size wise 01:31:03 i agree 01:31:09 We can go ahead with getting the PO started since we approved funding for media, even if we aren't sure what image to put on it yet 01:31:12 dgilmore, ok great 01:31:13 thank you 01:31:21 thing is how would I take a live SoaS and install it on an OLPC? 01:31:36 dan408, you can't, at least not on 1.75 01:31:39 #info we are talking about the multi ISO image, fitting all the desktop spins, and which ones we keep if space is an issue. 01:31:40 that isn't what happens with it dan408 01:32:06 olpc 1.75 is arm, multilive media is not 01:32:35 * handsome_pirate just had a glasses malfunction 01:34:07 ok, so anything else to say about media? 01:34:22 not from me 01:34:59 #topic == Open Floor === 01:36:13 anybody have anything 01:36:20 * inode0 wonders if it is time to drop dual arch from that media 01:37:00 * handsome_pirate is +1 for dropping 32 bit 01:37:13 * nb doesn't know 01:37:20 award3535, I need your address on that ticket 01:37:33 I would rather have more examples of Fedora products and fewer architectures 01:37:33 okay will modify it 01:37:33 or did i ship you something else recently? I think i may have it somewhere 01:38:50 This meeting will end in less than two minutes 01:39:07 inode0: How do you mean? 01:39:12 Also, FYI I'll chair the next week meeting 01:39:42 I mean I would rather have just 64-bit with both SoaS and MATE than both 64-bit and 32-bit and lose one of them 01:40:15 #endmeeting