00:32:35 #startmeeting FAmNA 00:32:35 #meetingname FAmNA 00:32:35 #topic === FAmNA Roll Call === 00:32:35 hrm... 00:32:35 zodbot: help? 00:32:35 zodbot: help 00:32:35 .coffee 00:32:35 ok folk, wait a bit while we get infro to poke zodbot 00:32:35 Meeting started Wed Aug 14 00:32:35 2013 UTC. The chair is masta. 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00:38:03 #topic === Tickets === 00:38:03 #link https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9 00:39:43 .famnaticket 63 00:39:45 masta: #63 (LINUXCON Budget Request) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/63 00:39:47 #topic >>> TICKET 63 (LINUXCON Budget Request) 00:40:25 award3535: your on 00:40:35 Ty 00:40:36 * handsome_pirate is +1 sending award3535 to LinuxCon 00:40:40 you're on 00:40:55 This is for room and travel, booth is already covered 00:41:21 rebergeron took care of the booth for us 00:41:35 is there a wiki page for the budget? 00:41:38 award3535: how many nights is that? 00:42:04 The cost is estimated for three nights sun, mon, tues, event ends wed 6pm 00:43:10 I usually come in under approved budget 00:43:12 Can you break this down a little? 00:43:50 We don't normally approve a single number without some idea what is what making up that number. 00:44:56 yep , it would be great to see a breakdown 00:45:11 room is 199 plus tax and parking for my car, the rest is for fuel round trip and if needed a spool of DVDs for media production 00:45:41 award3535: you need media? 00:45:56 there is plenty of pressed media floating around 00:46:12 so it that $600+ for a hotel? 00:46:31 yes, I need media, I also have media req tickets along with box and banners 00:46:42 Yes that is 6bills plus taxes 00:47:57 seems kinda alot 00:48:08 anyone else going? 00:48:13 New Orleans I guess 00:48:31 the rooms are normally 326 a night 00:48:50 Holy crap 00:48:59 That's London price 00:49:06 * nb proposes we approve Fuel/parking and room (Room cost $700.00 estimated) (Fuel $240.00 estimated) $990.00 from the wiki 00:49:08 Downtown New Orleans 00:49:15 that is any big city price 00:49:21 we don't need the $150 for media since we have plenty of pressed media 00:49:51 I know a few folks that have got to New Orleans for tech conf.... many have stayed a bit away from downtown or old district to save a bit, but generally the whole area is high priced 00:50:00 yeah 00:50:00 * inode0 would be a lot happier with another person - no one else wants to or can go? 00:50:01 proposed #agreed Approve award3535 $990 for LinuxCon 00:50:12 handsome_pirate, +1 00:50:18 * nb thinks award3535 does a good job at events 00:50:38 inode0: I'd like to, but I'd be extra cost on transport 00:50:55 Plus cost of attending 00:51:20 I don't question that award3535 does a great job. 00:51:48 I could go, but yeah the price is already so high 00:51:53 But it is probably twice as expensive as what we normally fund and is about 10% of our quarter's budget 00:52:03 that makes me pause and think is all 00:52:43 inode0: was this one of the items we made room for budget in the previous FAD ? 00:53:14 Yeah, I thought there was just over $1000 for this? 00:53:18 * inode0 would need to go look but since I don't remember it at the FAD 00:53:20 Maybe $1500 00:53:36 there was a good doc some place 00:53:36 Anyway 00:53:45 * handsome_pirate is +1 award3535 going 00:53:58 handsome_pirate: since you're quoting numbers, got a link to the doc? 00:54:23 so it is there as robyn 00:54:35 how much is the actual budget? 00:55:14 just found it, $1K 00:55:20 I can let you know that the standard booth is about 10,000 dollars, we are getting it for 0 00:55:21 This event is quite large and I think we should be present 00:55:21 +1 00:55:21 This will get lots of exposure 00:55:22 here is the link http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/linuxcon-north-america 00:55:46 ok then so I will +1 the $1,000 00:55:48 we aren't getting it for $0 00:56:05 Ruth will also be there 00:56:12 masta: I'm looking 00:56:40 but we pretty much kill anymore events this quarter if inode0 is correct on the 10% over budget (from above) 00:56:43 yes the booth will cost 0 00:57:11 Red Hat paid for the booth for us, no? 00:57:23 I'd say we shoudl consider increasing the cost estimate for this to 1.5k for the future... so two people can travel 00:57:31 masta, +1 00:57:37 assuming it stays in N.O. 00:58:06 +1 00:58:09 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApBrbq5j6NbOdG0zQzVvR3VqQ05NaE5xaDdLOWh3a0E&pli=1#gid=0 00:58:13 ok folks Please cost a vote 00:58:16 yes the booth was taken care of 00:58:17 +1 00:58:38 * inode0 would leave it up to robyn how to spend the $1k - she owns the event 00:59:04 nb, wrnash1, handsome_pirate have given positive votes 00:59:23 I believe the motion passes 00:59:24 All I did was put the wiki page together and enter some media requests Robyn and Ruth did everything else 00:59:26 We have budget for it, we need to use it 00:59:26 rbergeron: ping - as the owner please give some input 00:59:53 * handsome_pirate notes that a majority has voted +1 01:00:39 award3535: you seem to have approval, but I think it would be great to update the ticket with a breakdown of the cost estimates. 01:01:16 award3535: this event costing so much is not your fault btw, it's our fault for failling to plan the budget 01:01:29 * nb added actual cost for media to the spreadsheet 01:01:36 we were about 60 dollars over budget 01:02:15 ok, well i'm glad that is all set... sounds like a good event 01:02:37 moving on to OLF 01:02:49 .famnaticket 64 01:02:51 masta: #64 (OLF Budget Request) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/64 01:02:55 masta, you didn't #agreed it AFAIK 01:03:05 * inode0 isn't going to approve budget for that without the owner either :) 01:03:10 I thought I did break it down.... its at the bottom of the page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Linuxcon 01:03:14 #topic >>> TICKET 64 (OLF Budget Request) 01:03:40 award3535, i mean, you didn't #agreed linuxcon on irc 01:03:48 to put it in meetbot logs 01:03:53 oops 01:03:56 although yeah, i wish rbergeron was here to say her opinion 01:04:06 why can't it wait a week? 01:04:34 inode0, /me is +0 to waiting a week, either way is fine with me 01:04:56 #agree three +1's for the approval for LINUXCON budget - majority 01:05:10 masta, #agreed not #agree 01:05:11 gah 01:05:18 * rbergeron is in line at mcdonalds 01:05:29 #agreed three +1's for the approval for LINUXCON budget - majority 01:05:31 * rbergeron is happy to opinion 01:05:33 nb ty 01:05:46 rbergeron: Shoot 01:05:50 #info would be fabulous if rbergeron could chim in on the subject 01:05:51 rbergeron; yes please go 01:05:56 um 01:05:56 rbergeron: Just not me :) 01:06:48 rbergeron: the booth and event sponsorship, did that come out of our $1000 budget for the event, or from RH ? 01:07:10 so the booth - if its like in the past - is free for us 01:07:26 being nonprofit-ish and all that. 01:07:34 and passes come with booth. 01:08:00 rbergeron; I am now registered 01:08:02 ty 01:08:03 so basically we still have 1k for the event. 01:08:16 Then, in that case, we're good, and should move on 01:08:33 award3535: thank ruth, i am just here to ... be late because i'm eating? lol 01:08:38 rbergeron: ty for chiming in while out and about 01:08:52 ok moving on 01:08:57 handsome_pirate: your on 01:09:02 handsome_pirate: OLF 01:09:07 rbergeron; i will.... 01:09:12 you're even 01:09:19 Okay 01:09:32 So, simply put, my talk on Fedora ARM was accepted 01:09:39 I can't afford to go out of pocket 01:09:50 Cost of plane and hotel is detailed in ticket 01:10:41 If another Fedora person goes, I'll room share; I may also be able to room share with one of the hosts of The Linux Link Tech Show 01:10:53 That last is somewhat up in the air at this point 01:11:13 So, right now, I'm requesting the full ammount until I find a room mate 01:11:20 ^D 01:11:59 I believe last year we have multiple folks travel to OLF 01:12:09 Ben is planning to go to OLF 01:12:10 AFAIK 01:12:20 * rbergeron will note that she thinks it is fabulous to have moar ppl speaking about fedora at events 01:12:54 what ticket are we on now? 01:13:05 64 01:13:09 I agree, I spoke at ILF, had some really good reviews 01:13:29 inode0: 64 01:14:20 I am again of the opinion is not proper to approve such a big hunk of the event budget without the owner present. 01:14:51 handsome_pirate: so let me make sure I understand what is being proposed: 254 + 426 + tax ?? 01:14:56 And I again have no objection in principle 01:15:13 which is close to half of the budget 01:15:18 * nb moves to defer until next week 01:15:20 masta: Aye 01:15:33 inode0: If I can room share, the hotel bit will be less 01:15:35 inode0: though if others go - hotel can be split/shared 01:15:58 who is the event owner? 01:16:06 but nonetheless 01:16:27 although i am in favor of the request 01:16:37 My understanding is that it is or will be Ben 01:16:57 * rbergeron is favor of anything that will give her moral support for her kkkkkkkkeynote there 01:17:04 He mentioned it today on IRC 01:17:16 but should talk to ben :D 01:17:41 ok then, lets wait for Ben 01:17:50 #agreed defer until next week 01:18:29 #topic === OPEN FLOOR === 01:18:30 rbergeron: If my talk is prior to yours, I'll send peoples your way :) 01:18:57 you folks have 11 minutes until end of meeting 01:19:03 and open floor 01:19:11 bluehost had good swag at Flock 01:19:19 nb: yeah they did! 01:19:20 mini car usb charger things and charger cables 01:19:32 nb: and nice t-shirts too 01:19:37 * nb would like to look into getting some, price on usb charger things was about 1.50ish from what jared said 01:19:47 opinions (I'm not asking for votes, just thoughts) 01:19:53 PLanning on hosting a Linux event in Austin, stay tuned... 01:19:57 * handsome_pirate is sad that he lost the bottle opener usb stick 01:20:04 yeah, we can get them from staples if we want to follow the heard 01:20:07 * handsome_pirate thinks he handed it to someone and got distracted 01:20:12 nb: been seeing those car chargers alot recently 01:20:16 everyone seemed to be giving those away at TXLF 01:20:27 and also, /me also would like to look into microfiber cloths 01:20:27 nb: they seel at Fry's like $5 01:20:52 I think they were $1 or $2 from staples 01:20:55 /seel/sell/ 01:21:22 nb: the cables i got were all for iphone 5's 01:21:38 rbergeron, yeah, they had some for microusb also 01:21:38 Aye, that's all that was there 01:21:40 well if we can find them for really cheap I'd say lets get some and see how they go.... but I'd caution the novelty is wearing off quickly 01:21:47 Okay, maybe I'm worng 01:21:50 xm4n: tell us more! 01:21:56 s/worng/wrong 01:22:01 yes tell us 01:22:24 Texas is always on my plate! 01:23:09 xm4n ping 01:23:18 Scrolling back... To clarify, the LinuxCon booth has been arranged, and it was free. I think we have one more badge (rbergeron, do you need one?) and further ones after that can be had for 20% off. 01:23:32 Since the LUGs in Austin are popular I am deciding to hold an event that brings just the LUGs together. 01:23:45 suehle; I just registered TY 01:23:47 spot and I both have talks there and will be there as well 01:24:18 WE plan to contribute and try to make TXLF more exciting than it already is. 01:24:41 TXLF is great 01:24:55 yea TXLF was really good this last tiem around 01:24:55 I agree, and will be there next time! 01:25:31 suehle: yes, i need one - but if someone else winds up needing it i can buy mine. 01:25:40 ok 01:25:56 sdake is speaking and all that jazz 01:25:59 Well more details to come way later but I am also going to host a Fedora LUG meeting within the next 2 months. I have met numerous Fedora enthusiasts here in Austin and also I am already and Ambass. 01:26:01 rbergeron, unless you know of someone else in need, just use the same link in the email I sent to award3535 01:26:38 *already an ambassador 01:26:41 okay - i havent heard anyone else pipe up 01:29:16 ok folks 01:29:20 have a good night 01:29:23 3 01:29:24 2 01:29:25 1 01:29:29 #endmeeting