01:01:12 #startmeeting FAmNA 01:01:12 Meeting started Wed Oct 23 01:01:12 2013 UTC. The chair is masta. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:01:12 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 01:01:12 #meetingname FAmNA 01:01:12 #topic === FAmNA Roll Call === 01:01:12 The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 01:01:19 here 01:01:29 here 01:02:24 looks like a small short meeting 01:02:34 so let us get going 01:02:43 #topic === Announcements === 01:03:04 anything? 01:03:39 #topic === Tickets === 01:03:39 #link https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9 01:03:53 .famnaticket 67 01:03:54 masta: #67 (Fedora booth at USENIX LISA) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/67 01:04:31 #topic #67 (Fedora booth at USENIX LISA) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/67 01:05:06 Pretty much this is happening, I had asked the guy to setup a ticket so we can talk about it... but that person is not here 01:05:26 cool 01:05:31 It was talk about some on the last meeting. 01:05:54 #info Fedora @ LISA will be zero cost to Fedora 01:06:05 mostly a logistical thing 01:06:20 we need to send swag or whatever, so would be nice if the event owner would join. 01:06:33 I agree 01:06:36 maybe email them? 01:06:48 #info to send swag the event owner needs to ensure ticket is setup with the east coast shipper, and get stuff shipped. 01:07:19 #info Please ensure we have FamnaRequest ticket in trac setup. 01:07:45 email would be good 01:08:10 #topic == Open Floor === 01:08:25 Our fav part of the meeting 01:08:37 hmm 01:08:59 i dont really have anything 01:09:17 anything new that i should know about? 01:09:26 Have noticed participation is going down lately =( 01:09:34 yes way down 01:09:50 any ideas to remedy that? 01:10:21 Maybe recruit new ambassadors from the community? 01:10:32 A marketing campaign on the front page of fedora.org? 01:10:40 or make it more interesting to current and former ambassadors 01:10:49 StabbyMc_: not a bad idea 01:11:12 masta: my biggest issue personally was lack of accessibility really 01:11:17 it's a huge turn off 01:11:23 make it a requirement for ambassadors. you must attend this number of meetings to be current 01:11:47 sometimes stuff happens IRL... 01:11:54 but for me it doesn't really matter because im still out of commission for a while 01:12:03 what about other options for the meetings. like video chat. conference bridge. 01:12:07 but yea... after a period of long term inactivity, perhaps deactivate 01:12:26 masta: then we have a LONG list 01:12:50 i mean we have new people that have joined that have done nothing 01:13:01 Has anyone given them direction? 01:13:11 well... for now it would be great to spark more interest... we can consider cleaning out the cruft later 01:13:18 That was a problem when I was new. I didn't know what to do. 01:13:22 StabbyMc_: dont want to name names but i would hope so 01:13:30 That's why we started the whole mentor thing. 01:13:43 my mentor was pretty bad :D 01:14:37 Yeah I think we should maybe look at where we have ambassadors, and try too coordinate them to visit their local LUG to pass out DVD media or whatever.... give them a push so to say... 01:15:03 people join thinking it's a great way to join the community, but then find nothing to do... 01:15:33 but it does entail a lot of work by somebody willing 01:15:44 i think we need to make the program more attractive 01:15:47 Is it just the three of us tonight? 01:15:53 yes 01:15:57 instead of it being like "oh yeah go to these events and pass out swag" 01:16:03 #chair dan408 wrnash1 StabbyMc_ 01:16:03 Current chairs: StabbyMc_ dan408 masta wrnash1 01:16:04 it needs to be more rewarding than that 01:16:05 could we send some DVD or swag to each ambassador for each release. I normally leave a DVD here and there for people to grab 01:16:38 like OLPCs or raspberry pis or something for ambassadors 01:16:42 (active ones) 01:16:54 I left a couple Fedora 19 DVD at the airport when I travel to Atl this week. 01:17:49 speaking of which 01:17:58 masta since i missed the last few weeks 01:18:07 We need to address the grass roots efforts more than the technical conferences... which we more or less got covered... a big incentive it seems is people being sent to some place, they like that... but passing around swag at a lug is not so glamorous... but (in my opinion) worth it... and it would make small town ambassadors more active. 01:18:07 did you guys go over the new budget? 01:18:32 i've spoken at LUGs 01:18:39 but that's because I have something to talk about 01:18:59 and because I like hearing my own voice 01:19:11 I think LUGs would be a good place to recruit people actually 01:19:20 I like hearing you ramble on and on ... and on.. dan408 01:19:28 i love you too masta 01:19:29 ;-) 01:19:54 look 01:20:10 I have some expenditures I need approved tonight, if we have anyone that can do that? 01:20:15 on idea to recruit people, maybe we can get a list of computer science programs around the USA, and send a letter to them asking for help... get the student involved? 01:20:21 i think StabbyMc_'s idea of getting a marketing campaign going is a good idea 01:20:29 StabbyMc_: what do you need approved? 01:20:34 campus ambassadors? 01:20:37 masta: let's get whatever StabbyMc_ needs taken care of 01:20:38 We need pens. 01:20:42 ok 01:20:46 +1 for pens 01:20:52 +1 Pens 01:20:58 I have a couple of other ideas for stuff, but need to be given a ballpark budget. 01:21:11 masta: +1 on pens? 01:21:16 StabbyMc_: how many pens are we talking about? we are running low on those 01:21:34 The warehouse, aka my basement, is bare. 01:21:55 VileGent asked for a couple of boxes for a show, but I have none to send. 01:21:58 ok, I think we need to make a purchase order 01:22:18 im pretty much +1 on whatever StabbyMc_ needs 01:22:22 nb: you around? 01:22:48 Usually we do 5000 units for about $2800 bucks. 01:22:58 yes 01:23:01 I'm inclined to +1 but is this to have somebody ship more or order more StabbyMc_ ? 01:23:14 order 01:23:14 at this point I think it might become a PO 01:23:32 nb: how much was our last order of ink pens? 01:23:42 masta, StabbyMc_ did it 01:23:49 oh!! 01:23:54 lol 01:23:55 StabbyMc_: the question goes to you 01:23:57 masta: this is to do a bulk order. I then ship 500'ish to the regional ambs and keep stock here to drop replenishment or shows. 01:24:02 * nb hopes we can do it without a PO 01:24:09 getting new vendors added is a bitch 01:24:21 wrnash1, if you need swag, request it on famnarequests 01:24:25 new vendors into RH's system? 01:24:26 StabbyMc_: got any numbers to share on the expense? 01:24:27 we can certainly send you some DVDs and stuff 01:24:29 StabbyMc_, yes 01:24:46 nb: I can get vendors added pretty easy, as long as they fill out the electronic paperwork. 01:25:02 oh 01:25:10 masta: it's generally about $2800 01:25:26 StabbyMc_, hopefully you will have more luck than suehle does 01:25:28 StabbyMc_: ok that is probably going to eat all our budget 01:25:33 masta: and they last us about a year. 01:25:34 we are trying to get case badge vendor added 01:25:35 NB I'm waiting for Fedora 20 to be release before ordering more swag. 01:26:23 ok, on 2nd thought... I got more in our swag budget than I thought 01:26:28 StabbyMc_: +1 01:26:40 but anyway, +1 to ordering pens again 01:26:46 +1 01:26:47 even if we do have to make a PO 01:26:57 +1 again 01:27:03 #info StabbyMc_ proposed we order more ink pens 01:27:23 #agree four plus-one's to ordering new ink pens 01:27:32 it's agreed 01:27:43 #agreed four plus-one's to ordering new ink pens 01:27:52 my bad 01:28:11 StabbyMc_: do we need anything else? 01:28:23 we need case badges 01:28:32 yeah nb is working on that no? 01:28:41 and we need to start thinking about f20 media order 01:28:45 masta, it was already approved i thought 01:29:00 to order 10k for 2,000 01:29:06 nb: yea.. but last I remember it was red-tape all over 01:29:19 masta, same red tape as we will have for ink pens 01:29:32 since apparently it isn't as easy to get large cc charges approved now with osas as it was with commarch 01:30:03 so we have $12,250 for the year to purchase swag, at this point not sure how much we have spent... 01:30:24 Yeah, badges. 01:30:24 I have some ideas for some new items, but before I start working quotes, need to know what kind of budget I'm working with. 01:31:27 we really need to get somebody to play the role of treasurer with our budget. 01:32:13 masta: are you volunteering? :0 01:32:16 :) 01:33:01 maybe for next year, perhaps... will see 01:33:59 ok folks, anything else? 01:34:15 nah 01:34:38 Next Year I might can be the treasurer. I will need to see how things go 01:34:38 alright then 01:34:45 nothing else for me 01:34:48 oh one thing 01:34:58 did the working groups thing affect us? 01:35:51 um... that is all technical I believe 01:36:10 (could be wrong) 01:37:02 dan408: we are impacted in terms of knowing what is going on with the project and being able to speak about that ... which I'm obviously failing at.. 01:37:05 " 01:37:05 We would like each group to also have representation from other major 01:37:06 areas of Fedora - Quality Assurance, Infrastructure, Release 01:37:06 Engineering, Documentation, Design, Websites, Ambassadors, Feature 01:37:06 Wrangler, Marketing. We don't intend for this to be additional work to 01:37:06 current members of those teams; working group members should interact 01:37:07 with and augment the existing subprojects." 01:37:21 oh that... 01:37:24 http://www.spinics.net/lists/fedora-devel/msg188693.html 01:37:36 yea... so ambassadors are eligible to join those technical groups 01:37:56 just because you're members of an elite group 01:38:35 I believe I joined the core group... 01:38:38 tuanta is nominated 01:38:50 so i guess we're covered 01:39:08 and yes i see your name there 01:39:10 cool 01:40:08 ok then 01:40:11 it's a wrap 01:40:16 thanks! 01:40:18 three 01:40:20 two 01:40:21 one 01:40:25 #endmeeting