02:05:03 #startmeeting FAmNA 02:05:03 Meeting started Wed Nov 13 02:05:03 2013 UTC. The chair is masta. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 02:05:03 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 02:05:03 #meetingname FAmNA 02:05:03 The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 02:05:03 #topic === FAmNA Roll Call === 02:05:12 hello all 02:05:18 sorry for the late start 02:05:53 hi 02:06:13 hey 02:07:28 howdy folks 02:07:42 inode0: hola 02:07:51 inode0: i was telling masta about bbq 02:08:08 now I'm thinking about my empty freezer again! 02:08:23 that was the best year 02:08:39 :) i need to cook some soon 02:09:37 #chair inode0 wrnash1 dgilmore 02:09:37 Current chairs: dgilmore inode0 masta wrnash1 02:09:42 #topic === Announcements === 02:10:52 any announcements? 02:11:08 cool, moving on... 02:11:36 There is just one ticket, LISA 02:11:40 which is over 02:12:07 not worth much discussion, just waiting on the report 02:12:22 I don't know what exactly was sent there but if the event box was we should close the ticket once we get it back 02:12:34 #info LISA happened - waiting for event report 02:12:36 Since only RHT people went there probably won't be a report 02:13:01 inode0: that is a good point, but perhaps we can ask nicely 02:14:05 #action - masta to ask nicely for LISA report 02:14:47 ok, so moving on... 02:15:14 .famnaticket 68 02:15:15 masta: #68 (FAmNA Meeting Organization) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/68 02:15:42 #topic #68 (FAmNA Meeting Organization) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/68 02:15:54 inode0: you have the floor 02:16:32 Ticket should say it all - I'd like to try something different to get out of our rut 02:17:02 We keep talking about swag but not arranging it so let's just do it at a meeting 02:17:27 We could do one or two things a month for the rest of the year 02:18:14 I agree 100% 02:18:35 the meetings are not very effective anymore, and the attendance is probably just an effect 02:19:52 We could do something easy next week, like buttons 02:19:57 so we can make the meeting be less frequent, or perhaps trigger a meeting if there are meeting tickets that require a vote or whatever... 02:20:15 yea... so that is cool, we can switch to talking about swag 02:20:54 #idea - next meeting to be about swag, particularly buttons. 02:20:58 +1 02:21:17 Can be anything but will include actually ordering buttons 02:21:55 It is easy because we can re-use our old vendor and artwork for those 02:22:15 sounds good 02:22:26 Some research before the meeting finding those two items would be good 02:22:29 I'd like to be shown the process to purchase stuff 02:22:54 I used to go through it privately with people who helped out, let's just do it in public 02:23:54 Can we make a short list of the most desired stuff so we can start working through it? 02:24:02 yes 02:24:17 you mean desired swag, right? 02:24:21 Some things like pens/stickers are things StabbyMc will re-order on the side as needed. 02:25:00 Others like case badges we need to decide if we want the pain of POs in exchange for larger orders 02:25:17 Same would go for t-shirts now I guess 02:26:04 Still no one has told me anything about a limit I am expected to follow so I'm not really sure it applies to me but for now I'd like to keep mine under $1k just in case. 02:26:04 yea... those weird RH rules on POs is unfortunate. 02:26:36 inode0: under 1k is probably good idea 02:26:46 999.99 02:27:34 So another item will be push the PO process forward with our t-shirt and case badge vendors 02:27:54 Those are the most common $1k+ items we purchase without POs currently 02:28:13 ok so I suggest we urge Ruth to join next week if we decided to chat about the POs and the process to add a vendor 02:28:34 I think she just needs to do it but sure 02:28:51 we can gently nudge 02:28:55 we'll need to let her know who to do it for though 02:29:39 indeed 02:29:57 we should have that on the wiki somewhere now 02:30:00 ok, so this sounds like next week meeting will be fun 02:30:11 is there any action items we need to work on in the mean time? 02:30:30 (to get ready) 02:30:45 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Swag_vendors 02:31:00 Pure Buttons is our button vendor 02:31:03 would be kind of nice to know where our budget stands in respect to what we have left to order things with 02:31:14 LUSTRE-CAL is our case badge vendor 02:31:29 we have gobs'o'funds 02:32:22 * inode0 thinks Screen Printed Products is our t-shirt vendor but would like to check a receipt for that to make sure 02:33:11 I do have some small items planned but delayed from staples too 02:33:29 delayed by my not getting to them for months it seems 02:34:39 * masta remembers some thing about hats & visors 02:34:59 yeah, visors/coffee cups/something else 02:35:05 stress balls 02:35:30 cool 02:35:49 welp... sounds like a plan 02:35:49 I started but got bogged down on artwork - will try to get back to that 02:36:17 one of those I don't have artwork in an acceptable format for them 02:36:40 sounds like an easy fix 02:36:48 not for me unfortunately 02:37:39 mizmo is always willing to help me - I dropped the ball 02:37:49 and I really need stress balls 02:40:23 if you want I can help 02:40:37 (not with stress - image formats) 02:40:50 inode0: we need fedora stress balls 02:40:58 dgilmore: I know I do 02:41:00 inode0: i cold do with 20 of them right now 02:41:04 could 02:41:18 inode0: just to throw at someone 02:41:32 lol 02:41:33 masta: ok, we can talk, I can show you the stuff 02:41:56 artwork in hand it is all ery easy 02:42:33 I would put this vendor on the bad list but that might be objected to 02:42:52 my one experience with them so far was not good 02:43:15 hrm... welp plenty of fish in the sea 02:43:30 this is RHTs vendor now :) 02:43:32 I'm sure others would be happy to accept our payment instead 02:44:00 oh! gotcha... well not sure that means anyting... Fedora should be free to choose 02:44:20 but yea... probably easy to just fall in line 02:44:27 oh, we are, but they are easy so I am hoping my first experience was the exception 02:45:06 but for the record here is what happened 02:45:16 they took my order and gave me a delivery date 02:45:38 a few days later they sent me mail saying they couldn't deliver what I ordered on time 02:45:47 but if I paid more they could 02:46:06 inode0: :( thats lam 02:46:07 e 02:46:30 they claimed to be out of stock but could order more stock fast from someone else 02:46:59 geez! that is border line unethical... kinda... 02:47:17 they also gave me the option of changing colors to deliver on time without extra cost 02:47:28 but I did not want purple pencils 02:47:56 yeah, understandable... 02:48:39 anyway, it was a bit of a rush order - and they may well have just been doing their best to accommodate 02:49:04 we'll find out 02:50:58 alrighty... welp I'm going to move to open floor now 02:51:17 #topic === Open floor === 02:52:25 so here we are 02:52:33 Open Floor! 02:52:40 How about a badge for 'booth sitter'? 02:52:52 jsandys: great idea! 02:53:00 booth worker 02:53:31 number of years as a Fedora Ambassador badge 02:53:59 or number of events managed 02:54:16 chair a meeting 02:54:30 you can earn your 5 event badge. 02:54:30 meeting already have them don't they? 02:54:49 inode0: probably 02:55:39 https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/secretary-general 02:56:13 https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/speak-up! 02:56:19 thanks 02:56:46 jsandys: I think the booth worker/sitter badge is a great idea 02:57:06 jsandys: are you going to request that badge be created? 02:57:15 I'll submit it 02:57:20 perfect! 02:57:59 we should think of more 02:58:15 feel free to mention more at other meetings (next week or beyond) 02:58:18 deleting wiki pages! 02:58:39 haha 02:59:09 ok folks, this meeting is almost over 02:59:25 thanks so much for attending! 02:59:35 #endmeeting