21:00:03 #startmeeting FAmNA 21:00:03 Meeting started Mon Apr 7 21:00:03 2014 UTC. The chair is dan408_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:00:03 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 21:00:15 #meetingname FAmNA 21:00:15 The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 21:00:20 #topic Roll Call 21:00:34 so let's see how attendance is this week.. 21:00:36 * inode0 is here at least 21:00:39 here 21:00:45 #chair inode0 award3535 rbergeron 21:00:45 Current chairs: award3535 dan408_ inode0 rbergeron 21:00:54 #chair nb 21:00:55 Current chairs: award3535 dan408_ inode0 nb rbergeron 21:01:09 * masta is here 21:01:14 oh hey it's famsco boy! 21:01:17 #chair masta 21:01:17 Current chairs: award3535 dan408_ inode0 masta nb rbergeron 21:01:32 i dont have the pin for the conf otherwise i would have started it 21:01:37 I think we can do without it this week 21:02:01 no problem was kinda enjoying the music 21:02:14 lol me too 21:02:52 #topic Announcements 21:02:56 Hi there 21:03:01 hi wrnash 21:03:03 #chair wrnash 21:03:03 Current chairs: award3535 dan408_ inode0 masta nb rbergeron wrnash 21:03:06 If we want i have a conference bridge we can use 21:03:26 we can skip it this week, im at work 21:03:36 i dont think there are many updates this week anyway 21:03:39 ok I am haning up 21:03:40 hey jsandys 21:03:49 Hello 21:04:00 so shall we get to it? 21:04:13 Ok 21:04:17 ok 21:04:28 yes 21:04:32 lets go 21:04:45 #link https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9 21:04:52 #topic Tickets 21:05:19 .famnaticket 68 21:05:20 dan408_: #68 (FAmNA Meeting Organization) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/68 21:05:42 so far i think the new meeting time is working 21:05:53 but I don't really see much of a difference in attendance 21:06:07 i don't really know what we can do about that 21:06:25 Is call active? 21:06:36 If not I can start it in about 5 mins 21:06:43 no 21:06:43 those who care about doing what they enjoy what they do will be here 21:06:50 we dont need it today 21:07:04 meeting time is okay with me 21:07:08 i think we can do the conf thing every other week 21:07:20 +1 to every other week 21:07:27 nb_ maybe you could get me the pin so I can start it if you're not here 21:07:50 dan408_: Ask Ruth. It's not my pin to give out 21:07:53 k 21:07:57 I have no objections 21:08:13 so back to ticket 68 21:08:19 anyone have anything else to add? 21:08:25 otherwise im going to close this ticket out 21:08:52 +1 to closing it, I like the conf call 21:09:25 I have a conference bridge with no code 21:09:34 we can use it without any issues 21:09:34 thanks wrnash 21:09:41 we'll use it next week probably 21:09:48 can you pm it to me 21:10:03 877-340-2147 pc 6106721 21:10:58 thanks 21:11:00 noted 21:11:14 .famnaticket 72 21:11:15 dan408_: #72 (LFNW 2014 Budget) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/72 21:11:29 Need a quarter page ad 21:11:40 Isnt this all wrapped up now 21:11:42 so last week I told Ruth to go ahead and order playing cards for you 21:11:48 but I don't know what the status is 21:11:54 so I'll email her asking for an update 21:12:10 jsandys: what do you mean you need a quarter page ad? 21:12:18 Great it we get cards 21:12:28 hey ParadoxGuitarist! 21:12:30 Hey all, sorry I'm late 21:12:31 glad you could make it 21:12:34 Me too! 21:12:34 #chair ParadoxGuitarist 21:12:34 Current chairs: ParadoxGuitarist award3535 dan408_ inode0 masta nb rbergeron wrnash 21:12:45 where there's a will there's a way ParadoxGuitarist 21:12:47 Part of the red hat perk is the ad, 21:13:00 jsandys: so you need an ad designed? 21:13:03 Joe says we can have it 21:13:26 Or reuse existing ad 21:13:45 i'll create a design team ticket and update the famna ticket 21:14:09 Thanks, ill support 21:14:10 can you give us the info on where to send the ad to? 21:14:27 Yes 21:14:44 Ill add it to the ticket 21:15:13 so this is for the LFNW conference magazine or whatever? 21:15:17 I forget what they call those things 21:15:42 brochure? Program? 21:15:42 oh 21:15:46 "brochure" 21:15:47 im an idiot 21:16:04 =) 21:16:05 Yes 21:16:33 sorry I'm late 21:17:29 hello Scott 21:17:33 heya dan408_ 21:17:34 #chair vwbusguy 21:17:34 Current chairs: ParadoxGuitarist award3535 dan408_ inode0 masta nb rbergeron vwbusguy wrnash 21:17:47 wow good attendance today! 21:17:52 jsandys: https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/325 21:18:00 related to this ticket, but slightly unrelated... 21:18:05 yes 21:18:06 I need to get the event box shipped 21:18:06 Thanks 21:18:19 no rush ParadoxGuitarist, just need to get it there by Apr 24 21:18:33 For now should I gen a UPS label for him? 21:18:49 yes please 21:18:55 all the info is in the ticket 21:18:55 I don't have an account with UPS, but would it be posible to get one lined up soon? 21:19:06 vwbusguy will take care of it for you 21:19:10 Cool 21:19:18 I need to get stuff from his house anyways. 21:19:19 Banners included, shipped separate or ? 21:19:22 i have one. Nb can help you with that down the road 21:19:40 The banners were missing from my box 21:19:49 we didn't get banners from east coast 21:19:51 yeah I didnt have the banners when I gave them to ParadoxGuitarist 21:19:56 err, that one 21:19:57 banners aren't in boxes 21:20:08 yeah they dont fit in boxes lol 21:20:12 They were too big for the box 21:20:39 masta: do you have banners you could ship to jsandys? 21:21:06 dan408_: nope, sry no banners here =( 21:21:13 k 21:21:18 jsandys you can live without them right? 21:21:46 we need to get the banner thing sorted out though 21:21:47 Banners are nice but not necessary 21:22:20 I think the last I had banners they shipped to Southern_Gentlem for his event, no idea where they are now. 21:22:23 ill create a separate ticket to figure out who/what/where re: banners 21:22:34 hello herlo 21:22:55 hi dan408_ 21:22:58 Yes 21:23:00 #chair herlo 21:23:00 Current chairs: ParadoxGuitarist award3535 dan408_ herlo inode0 masta nb rbergeron vwbusguy wrnash 21:23:01 * herlo is just lurking and working 21:23:02 good to see you 21:23:05 cool 21:23:05 Yes 21:23:11 dan408_: glad to be seen. 21:23:23 Yes? 21:23:49 jsandys: So we'll get you a box, trac ticket created for ad for brochure, will get an update on playing cards from Ruth 21:24:13 .famnaticket 73 21:24:14 dan408_: #73 (Fedora T-Shirt design contest) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/73 21:24:29 So not much to update on this 21:24:32 I think it will be slow going 21:24:57 .famnaticket 74 21:24:59 dan408_: #74 (FAmNA budget for 2014) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/74 21:25:13 So we agreed that award3535 is the treasurer 21:25:38 and I think we also agreed that we'll probably copy pasta the budget from last year 21:25:44 yes, but I need to have some agreement on what we are going to track 21:25:44 ok, award3535, where is the money? 21:26:07 wish I had it, but my pockets are empty 21:26:11 Tracking money is a good idea +1 =P 21:26:46 ok where is the 2013 budget? 21:27:11 let's just rename it 2014 and move on 21:27:40 hey StabbyMc 21:27:42 #chair StabbyMc 21:27:42 Current chairs: ParadoxGuitarist StabbyMc award3535 dan408_ herlo inode0 masta nb rbergeron vwbusguy wrnash 21:28:31 ParadoxGuitarist, i think the consensus for now was to ask you to get vwbusguy to make you ups labes when you need them for now 21:28:34 we weren't going to add additional people to our ups website account for now 21:28:36 we discussed it last week 21:28:38 one banner is missing 21:29:03 nb: ok 21:29:22 * inode0 will mention we might make some other changes to the UPS account affecting everyone - details as they become known 21:29:51 um 21:29:54 nothing sinister going on - just discussing cleaning things up and sort of starting fresh 21:29:54 so about the budget thing 21:30:15 inode0, oh 21:30:17 ok 21:30:18 give me a number 21:30:47 im trying to find the budget doc 21:30:56 does anyone have a link to it? 21:32:15 you know whats funny 21:32:26 we've been disscussing fy14 budget since JAnuary 2013 21:32:53 02:02:04 #info Proposed FY14 budget is here 21:32:53 try google famna budget doc - don't know why anyone else needs to do it :) 21:32:53 02:02:14 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApBrbq5j6NbOdG0zQzVvR3VqQ05NaE5xaDdLOWh3a0E&pli=1#gid=0 21:33:01 that is a very long time 21:33:12 putting that info in the ticket 21:33:36 getting it out of google would be a good thing too 21:33:37 award3535: so change the 2013 to 2014 and move on 21:33:48 got it, now that I have a number I will move on 21:33:48 inode0: Should we put it on the wiki? 21:33:53 ty 21:33:56 np 21:34:05 yes 21:34:17 award3535: get it on the wiki pls 21:34:25 #action award3535 to put fy14 budget on wiki 21:34:30 no problem 21:34:43 .famnaticket 75 21:34:44 dan408_: #75 (Swag for 2014) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/75 21:35:09 so I don't really have any update on this 21:35:22 nb were you able to get a quote from Ruth for headphones? 21:36:32 dan408_, yes....... i mentioned it last week, just a minute 21:36:46 k 21:37:00 so what does everyone think about headphones? 21:37:02 im +1 21:37:20 Oh those are cool 21:37:22 for $6-$7 I'm not enthusiastic 21:37:31 need to play with them first to see how they work. 21:37:35 ParadoxGuitarist: got your suggestion, thanks 21:37:40 inode0: yeah that's right 21:37:41 What do they sound like? 21:37:47 nb: is there any way you can find something cheaper? 21:38:21 branding really tiny stuff isn't very effective either I'm afraid 21:38:35 well, the branding is on the case for them 21:38:41 i think i shared photos last week 21:38:51 which no one uses or sees 21:38:52 inode0, it depends. My HP buds look very generic. The Spotify ones stand out more 21:38:55 http://nb.fedorapeople.org/photo.JPG 21:38:57 http://nb.fedorapeople.org/photo2.JPG 21:39:20 how about we just get the case and I can put my own headphones in it? :D 21:39:30 Oh, last week I promised an image of the tumbler: http://imgur.com/x0di3EO 21:39:30 I have expensive studio monitor headphones heh 21:39:41 StabbyMc: that looks cool 21:40:10 StabbyMc, love it 21:40:22 how much were the tumblers? 21:40:58 I would like to see fedora become the premier linux distribution 21:41:12 For music 21:41:18 They're spendy though, depending on how much you order, 100-300 is almost $13 ea :-( 21:41:25 jsandys: there is a Fedora Jam spin 21:41:33 StabbyMc: yeah that is spendy 21:41:34 I would too jsandys 21:41:45 whoa 21:41:57 that said, I think they have a lot more staying power than earbuds... 21:41:58 * vwbusguy wishes jsandys was at SCaLE this year then ;-) 21:42:00 StabbyMc: that's alot =( 21:42:02 jsandys: that is the sort of thing that could conceivably be a product in the future 21:42:18 oh yeah great work on SCaLE ParadoxGuitarist and vwbusguy 21:42:31 and herlo 21:42:39 Headphones would be a link 21:42:50 dan408_, thx :-) 21:43:25 so 21:43:35 the only thing we can agree on was playing cards 21:43:43 what about lanyards? 21:43:52 I really love my Fedora lanyard nb. How much were they? 21:43:52 everyone does lanyards 21:44:07 Yeah but I love mine because it says Fedora on it 21:44:09 I'm wearing it right now 21:44:18 =) 21:44:27 dan408_: I don't recall exactly but I think in the $3-$4 ballpark 21:44:28 laynards seem nice. 21:44:45 we need lanyards with the breakaway things 21:44:49 more safe 21:45:03 people like me can't wear the fedora ones at work because they don't have that 21:45:05 too many fedora people getting injured by them? 21:45:15 i got choked last week.. 21:45:16 fedora crash helmets 21:45:22 * nb would love to wear a fedora lanyard every day to promote fedora 21:45:26 motorcycle and hockey helmets 21:45:40 nb: can you get a price? I think we can all agree on lanyards 21:45:48 the last ones were really well done 21:45:52 dan408_: don't bet on it 21:45:56 they do cost more than you might expect, but not too bad 21:46:03 inode0: dont be so negative! 21:46:20 the problem with lanyards isn't in giving them to fedora people - but they are rotten swag for the general public 21:46:27 i think on swag we may just need to eat a little budget 21:46:28 inode0, true 21:46:35 inode0: yes 21:46:40 so let's order a small quantity 21:46:41 * nb still wants headphones. but i know they are expensive 21:46:45 and not give them out like candhy 21:46:59 nb: get us a price anyway 21:47:01 We were bump caps, breakeaway laynards are msnditory at my work. 21:47:05 if we all understand they aren't swag and are something for fedora contributors I don't have a problem with getting more of them 21:47:23 inode0: +1 21:47:32 inode0, +1 21:47:42 ok 21:47:42 dan408_, wed have a price. $6.50 each for 700something of them AFAIK 21:47:44 moving on 21:47:45 * nb looks to be sure 21:47:59 is 700 minimum order? 21:48:06 Yes 21:48:35 well like I said, we may just want to eat it 21:48:49 #fedora-mktg_20140325.log:[17:06:50] They were $6.50 each for an order of 750, plus a $50 setup fee. 21:49:02 we are going to have some pricy budget items but if we order a lot of them they will last us a long time 21:49:21 nb: ok I updated the trac ticket 21:49:22 we should order sooner than later 21:49:30 Jvc gumy and marshmallow are reasonsble sound quslity st 10-15 retail 21:49:51 $4,925 for 750 earbuds 21:50:08 lanyards were the same price 21:50:14 well a little cheaper 21:50:18 $4550 21:50:28 actually nm 21:50:32 about the same 21:50:46 anyways, let's revisit it next week 21:50:51 .famnaticket 76 21:50:52 dan408_: #76 (Joining forces with CentOS?) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/76 21:50:54 * StabbyMc would vote lanyards vs. earbuds. 21:51:03 StabbyMc: +1 21:51:12 inode0: did you have an update on this? 21:51:15 Lanyards 21:51:28 I spoke briefly with Evolution and some others in #centos-devel 21:51:43 I don't really know if all the logistics would work out on this 21:52:05 no, I haven't spoken any more with them 21:53:03 I can't imagine why a group can't form to do most of the tedious swag procurement though 21:54:03 unless there just aren't people interested in doing it which is very possible 21:54:55 inode0: I think there are people that want to keep CentOS separate 21:55:15 inode0: And they've kinda been just doing their own thing, from what I was told since day 1. 21:55:32 inode0: They dont really have meetings to discuss it. I think they have their own "swag guy" 21:55:36 yes, but now they will need to do things within the Red Hat framework like we do 21:56:00 inode0: alright well see if you can follow up again with him this week please? 21:56:01 at least I would think 21:56:18 not likely, busy week before heading your direction 21:56:24 oh, right 21:56:24 perhaps I'll see him there 21:56:36 I still need to reg 21:57:00 #topic Open Floor 21:57:54 https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/77 21:57:58 we should know more about txlf in two weeks after talks get decided 21:58:11 cool 21:58:41 StabbyMc: in the future setting milestone to meeting adds those tickets to the agenda automatically 21:58:55 ^ 21:59:10 and there is a famnarequests ticket for that too isn't there? 21:59:31 inode0: there is, but I got a shipment notification, so I'm guessing that's been satisfied. 21:59:40 or didn't Ben already do that? 21:59:43 yeah 22:00:05 so here we are looking for a person again? 22:00:31 Indeed, that was my intent on bringing up the ticket again ;-) 22:00:33 award3535: can you work that in and come up with a reasonable expense approximation? 22:01:05 Inode0 will do give me a few days to sort this all out 22:01:36 is there a date in there I am missing? 22:01:48 oh, 4/26 22:01:58 sure, then 22:05:30 so what's going on with this ticket? 22:06:19 StabbyMc: so who is going to work this event? 22:06:20 I've got stickers and some pens and media (on its way), but I won't be able to be a physical presence here. 22:06:27 award3535 will check on things and if we can afford it we'll ship him down there :) 22:06:30 So I'm looking for someone to work the event. 22:06:44 well nobody here is really in your area 22:06:52 understood. 22:06:55 and he should know if we can afford it since he is the treasurer 22:07:08 award3535 is in the same state at least 22:07:19 I can probably show up for a bit in the morning to help with setup and the like, but I can't do a full day. 22:08:01 i would help but I'd need to work on my Fedora dual boot expertise 22:08:19 I would be glad to help, I am off that day and have to be in SC the next day, so works good for me 22:08:49 Let me check on the budget thing I should have an answer with the next day or two 22:08:55 oh award3535 is in GA I had him pinned elsewhere for some reason 22:08:58 you're in luck! 22:11:14 got to go folks, see you all next week 22:11:27 inode0: is there something we can do to modify the trac to allow people to be cced? 22:11:35 award3535: thanks can I put your name on this trac ticket? 22:11:45 okay thanks 22:11:56 good night everyone 22:12:06 cya award3535 22:12:21 welp 22:12:21 didn't think there was a problem with that 22:12:36 inode0: well at least *I* can't add people to CC, just myself 22:12:57 * inode0 is looking 22:13:13 so 22:13:20 you can only do this when you create a new ticket 22:13:50 i guess it's a "feature" 22:13:51 should be able to modify ticket and add there 22:14:03 all I get is 22:14:07 "Add to Cc: dan.mashal@fedoraproject.org " 22:14:10 with a checkbox 22:14:24 like last week I reassigned the ticket to ParadoxGuitarist because there was no cc 22:14:40 oh, let me look 22:15:33 I'm guessing if you authenticate you should be able to 22:15:40 im authenticated 22:15:44 maybe you have rights i dont have 22:15:54 i'll ask #fedora-admin about it 22:16:03 I do have rights you don't but ticket_modify is authenticated user 22:16:17 no worries 22:16:21 i'll ask them 22:16:26 maybe it's some other right 22:16:53 so I think we should call it 22:17:00 already 16 minutes over 22:17:01 The events page on the wiki looks crazy, fiscal quarters and dates seem weird, should I write a ticket or try to fix it myself? 22:17:13 jsandys: write a ticket 22:17:19 Ok 22:17:22 jsandys: write exactly what's crazy about it too 22:17:28 jsandys: and set the meeting milestone to "meeting" 22:17:49 so anyways 22:17:53 thanks for coming everyone 22:18:13 5 22:18:13 4 22:18:14 3 22:18:14 2 22:18:15 1 22:18:16 #endmeeting