00:59:46 <award3535> #startmeeting FAmNA 00:59:46 <zodbot> Meeting started Fri Jun 6 00:59:46 2014 UTC. The chair is award3535. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 00:59:46 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 01:00:06 <award3535> #meetingname FAmNA 01:00:06 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 01:00:12 * MadBus 01:00:29 <award3535> #topic === FAmNA Roll Call === 01:00:46 <MadBus> Here (vwbusguy) 01:00:50 <inode0> long time no see 01:00:54 <LinuxKnight> here 01:00:55 * kk4ewt jbwillia 01:01:09 * LinuxKnight 01:01:13 <award3535> #current chairs 01:01:15 <MadBus> Heya inode0 01:01:28 <award3535> #chairs 01:02:19 * MadBus is at a high school graduation, so may be in and out 01:02:41 <kk4ewt> #chair MadBus inode0 kk4ewt 01:02:49 <kk4ewt> dothat award 01:03:08 <award3535> #chair MadBus inode0 kk4ewt award3535 01:03:08 <zodbot> Current chairs: MadBus award3535 inode0 kk4ewt 01:03:29 <award3535> #chair MadBus inode0 kk4ewt award3535 linuxknight 01:03:29 <zodbot> Current chairs: MadBus award3535 inode0 kk4ewt linuxknight 01:03:49 <award3535> #topic === Announcements === 01:04:00 <kk4ewt> I want to thank everyone for comingto this emergency meeting of FAMNA 01:04:15 <award3535> yes I second that 01:04:35 <award3535> there is lots of items we need to clear up 01:04:48 <award3535> any announcements 01:05:04 * masta looks in 01:05:11 <masta> howdy folks 01:05:28 <MadBus> #chair masta 01:05:28 <zodbot> Current chairs: MadBus award3535 inode0 kk4ewt linuxknight masta 01:05:31 <award3535> #chair MadBus inode0 kk4ewt award3535 linuxknight masta 01:05:31 <zodbot> Current chairs: MadBus award3535 inode0 kk4ewt linuxknight masta 01:05:39 <kk4ewt> i finally gotthe event box and banners back from mario 01:05:48 <award3535> that is good news 01:05:54 <masta> very good 01:05:56 <kk4ewt> banners are being shipped to masta for TLF 01:06:06 <award3535> that one will be going to SELF I presume 01:06:16 <award3535> or TLF first 01:06:19 <kk4ewt> then backfor SELF 01:06:26 <masta> they will turn around and ship to SELF, like last year 01:07:29 <kk4ewt> award3535: lets get started on tickets 01:07:31 <award3535> any other items before we look at tickets 01:07:55 <award3535> moving on 01:07:57 <award3535> #topic === Tickets === 01:08:12 <award3535> #link https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9 01:08:36 <award3535> take a quick look at the page please 01:09:36 <award3535> #73 01:09:59 <masta> .famnaticket 73 01:10:00 <zodbot> masta: #73 (Fedora T-Shirt design contest) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/73 01:10:13 <award3535> sorry forgot the preamble 01:10:23 <MadBus> We have a baby on the way and my wife has been busy in other projects 01:10:33 <MadBus> I'm not sure she's gonna be able to do it soon 01:10:41 <masta> so I think this is a great idea, but on the down side it's a major block on getting t-shirts right now. 01:10:45 <award3535> I have no idea what is going on with this ticket 01:11:01 <masta> so I think it's great, we should not wait on a contest to get t-shirts made. 01:11:30 <award3535> the last meeting the contest was being thrown around, and I agree we should not wait 01:11:32 <MadBus> masta +1 01:11:39 <award3535> +1 01:11:51 <LinuxKnight> +1 01:11:52 <masta> I will talk to the new FPL and see if we can get some email sent from on high and get this going, but lets not wait for t-shirts. 01:12:03 <award3535> we freed up a bunch of events to help with the cost 01:12:15 * inode0 suggests the simplest way to get them made fast will be to ask demonjester if he will help again 01:12:52 <award3535> any objections to inode0 suggestion 01:12:58 <kk4ewt> nope 01:13:14 <MadBus> Wfm 01:13:18 <masta> I agree with inode0 - we should engage demonjester ASAP 01:13:30 <award3535> +1 01:13:40 <masta> at best that one can take ownership, or provide valuable guidance 01:13:44 * inode0 hasn't heard from him in a long time but he has always helped when asked 01:14:11 <award3535> who is going to contact him 01:14:55 <kk4ewt> i hate to say this but inode0 is the man with the card 01:15:00 <masta> .fasinfo demonjester 01:15:01 <zodbot> masta: User "demonjester" doesn't exist 01:15:07 <masta> .fas demonjester 01:15:08 <kk4ewt> so inode0 please 01:15:10 <zodbot> masta: bpowell01 'Brian Powell' <bpowell01@gmail.com> 01:15:17 <inode0> kk4ewt: that hardly matters since they won't let me pay for them 01:15:39 <kk4ewt> so we have to do the PO route 01:15:49 <inode0> yes 01:16:08 <Cydrobolt> Hey Famna 01:16:37 <Cydrobolt> award3535, this is kind of off-topic, but are you able to take on any mentees right now? 01:17:01 <Cydrobolt> vwbusguy told me to ask you 01:17:05 <award3535> cydrobolt; yes 01:17:13 <Cydrobolt> .fas cydrobolt 01:17:14 <zodbot> Cydrobolt: cydrobolt 'Chaoyi Zha' <summermontreal@gmail.com> 01:17:41 <kk4ewt> can we move on to SELF and TLF since they were the reason for the Emergency meeting 01:17:55 <award3535> yes since they are hot 01:18:51 <award3535> There is no ticket for TLF, so what do we need to inode0 01:18:58 * suehle is here but didn't realize what time it was 01:19:07 <suehle> Looks like I picked the right time too :D 01:19:16 <kk4ewt> suehle: welcome 01:19:33 <award3535> on the budget sheet we have 1500 aloted 01:19:35 * inode0 isn't handling TXLF 01:19:42 <MadBus> Heya suehle 01:19:52 <inode0> but most of the expense was already approved and paid I think 01:20:03 <kk4ewt> masta has there been a budget proposed for tlf ? 01:20:07 <suehle> Yes, that PO was paid long ago. I'll double check. 01:20:24 <inode0> two things to remember about TXLF 01:20:31 <award3535> hmm, since I am to track this for use, I didnt know 01:20:42 <suehle> You guys approved $500 each for three things... I can look up the invoice 01:20:43 <inode0> 1 - we get a bag insert so something needs to be arranged for that 01:21:11 <inode0> 2 - we get a blurb of our choice read during the introductions for each talk in the room we sponsored 01:21:24 <masta> kk4ewt: um.. not sure.. I think we did. 01:21:26 <inode0> we need to think about what we would like to say 01:21:31 <suehle> Yeah, it was paid for back in February. 01:21:42 <masta> I think we approved $1,500 for tlf 01:21:54 <award3535> that is what is on my budget sheet 01:22:01 <award3535> 1500 01:22:03 <inode0> masta: that was just event sponsorship with the pieces mentioned above 01:22:29 <inode0> if you and others need any more I guess that should be documented/approved 01:22:54 <award3535> that is exactly why we needed to have a meeting 01:23:02 <suehle> ticket 69 I believe. 01:23:24 <award3535> there has been no discussion about it in the last month on meetings 01:23:29 <suehle> $500 each for community exhibitor, tote bag insert, and track sponsorship 01:24:20 <award3535> so is everything set for TXLF 01:24:43 <masta> I think so 01:25:05 <award3535> ok should we move on 01:25:21 <award3535> #famnaticket 83 01:25:27 <masta> I could probably expense my hotel, which I'm spiting with a friend... so maybe $300 in more expense. 01:25:45 <award3535> #.famnaticket 83 01:26:10 <award3535> # .famnaticket 83 01:26:22 <masta> remove the pound 01:26:32 <award3535> .famnaticket 83 01:26:33 <zodbot> award3535: #83 (SELF 2014 Buget) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/83 01:27:35 <kk4ewt> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SELF_2014 01:27:49 <MadBus> Is there an itemized version? 01:28:07 <MadBus> kk4ewt: thanks 01:28:26 <award3535> I took a rough budget for those who I know are traveling and yes its on the page 01:28:57 <inode0> how did I get on that list? 01:29:10 <award3535> I do not have exact numbers except for myself. Please edit, add, volunteer 01:29:13 <kk4ewt> and i will bedoing another VE session 01:29:15 <inode0> you can definitely remove me 01:29:33 <kk4ewt> inode0: you were on last years most likely 01:29:35 <award3535> inode0 you will not be there this year 01:29:43 <inode0> no 01:29:55 <award3535> Ok, I will remove you inode0 01:31:10 <award3535> that will drop the estimate about 450, which will bring us to approx $1650 as it stands, Jdulaney has asked for travel he has been there every year for the past 4 01:31:13 <inode0> I'm guessing dulaney is just left over from last year too 01:31:21 <kk4ewt> so drop the budget to by 515 01:31:31 <kk4ewt> dulaney is coming 01:31:42 <suehle> Safe to assume we're doing the $500 SELF sponsorship, and I can send the nice people some money? 01:31:52 <kk4ewt> yes 01:32:27 <award3535> bronze is correct 01:32:34 <kk4ewt> make the motion of $1700 for the total SELF Budget 01:32:42 <award3535> +1 01:32:59 <inode0> +1 01:33:26 <suehle> Booth staff should email me for the super sekrit registration code. 01:33:27 <kk4ewt> +1 01:33:38 <masta> sure +1 01:33:58 <award3535> suehle will do 01:35:20 <award3535> the rest of the tickets are inquiring about media, box and banners, kk4ewt I believe will 01:35:24 <award3535> bring media 01:35:44 <kk4ewt> yep 01:35:44 <award3535> box to follow from TXLF 01:35:54 <kk4ewt> ??? 01:36:13 <kk4ewt> no i have the box banners will come from TXLF 01:36:14 <award3535> kk4ewt is your box being sent to TXLF 01:36:49 <masta> ask Nick to send media for SELF to kk4ewt or anybody else helping SELF 01:36:54 <kk4ewt> no its a central event so the central box 01:37:01 <kk4ewt> masta i have media 01:37:04 <masta> ah! 01:37:25 <kk4ewt> masta i am the east coast distrubution point 01:37:44 <MadBus> I have to run 01:37:48 <masta> ok, if the central box is to ship to self... that is good to know. 01:37:50 <award3535> good, then I will close the remaining requests for the SELF event, I was not sure if you were going to get the east box back in time 01:37:50 * MadBus & 01:37:55 <masta> I thought SELF was eastern 01:38:09 <kk4ewt> masta no you will send me the banners back 01:38:18 <kk4ewt> and send nb the eventbox 01:38:23 <masta> kk4ewt: acknowledged, roger that 01:39:04 <kk4ewt> award i got yesterday 01:39:11 <award3535> I think we have this settled now, I will update the link for SELF with current budget and attendees 01:39:40 <kk4ewt> .action SELF Budget Approved 01:40:09 <award3535> kk4ewt; that is fantastic, was starting to worry 01:40:30 <award3535> # action SELF Budget Approved 01:40:43 <kk4ewt> award3535: i have been worried one week after LFNE 01:40:44 <award3535> #action SELF Budget Approved 01:41:16 <suehle> Can I insert a topic super fast before my battery dies? OSCON booth. 01:41:25 <award3535> suehle go 01:41:27 <LinuxKnight> ... yes please 01:41:43 <suehle> Same as the last few years, it's 5k. But if that sounds like too much, we can also share it with the new friends in the family, CentOS. 01:41:46 * LinuxKnight waiting on word about OSCON, I live in that area 01:44:21 <masta> suehle: I'd say share 01:44:23 <award3535> my budget sheet shows $1500 for participation costs and does not list sponsor 01:45:08 * inode0 would rather spend 5k at TXLF or SELF ... but people who still go to OSCON need to evaluate what we get out of being there since I haven't been there in many years 01:45:30 <kk4ewt> well i think it is fine but we need a wiki page 01:45:33 <suehle> The biggest thing about OSCON is if you're not there, the questions about why Fedora isn't there. It makes a bigger statement to not be there than to be. 01:46:16 <LinuxKnight> sharing with CentOS or no, as long as we fly the Fedora flag there, is what is important imho 01:46:40 <suehle> So sharing would bring it to $2,500. 01:47:44 <award3535> If I could go I would, too far to travel for me, but +1 01:47:51 * masta is +1 share 01:47:54 <award3535> to 2500 01:49:22 <award3535> is two enough to carry the vote or do we need one more 01:49:25 * LinuxKnight +1 to share 01:49:35 <kk4ewt> +1 01:49:40 <LinuxKnight> if my previous comment didn't count already ... ;) 01:50:13 <award3535> #action OSCON Budget $2500 approved 01:50:31 <award3535> #topic == Open Floor === 01:51:00 <award3535> any thing else that is out there that we can clear up 01:51:27 <kk4ewt> 1) I cannot attend OLF this year so someone else needs to plan for that 01:51:56 <award3535> is nb going to do so, if not I may be able to 01:52:20 <award3535> is there anyone else in the area 01:53:05 <inode0> There is someone in the area ... now who is it? 01:53:50 <inode0> bpepple? 01:54:00 <award3535> I dont normally attend this one, so I dont know who that is 01:54:57 <award3535> I will ask nb if he wants to do this one, if he says no, I will take it 01:55:05 <inode0> I'm sure he wouldn't want to do it solo anyway but would be worth touching base with him. 01:55:20 <award3535> I agree 01:55:46 <award3535> I will start the pages and take a look at what we need 01:58:15 <award3535> is there any thing else, I think we have covered what was needed in the short term 01:58:25 <inode0> suehle: send me an address if you want me to try to change the address associated with that UPS account please 01:58:44 <kk4ewt> we need to set next meeting 01:59:05 <suehle> inode0, sent 01:59:16 <kk4ewt> i motion we try thursday nights at 9pm 02:00:06 <inode0> that is as good as any night for me until football season starts :) 02:00:08 <suehle> Is there a reason for so late? 02:00:35 <kk4ewt> so people on the westcoast cangethomefromwork 02:00:35 <award3535> no objection with me 02:00:41 <inode0> that is 6pm west coast which can't comfortably be earlier 02:00:59 <inode0> they don't like it anyway though 02:01:02 <award3535> we tried earlier and they just stopped 02:01:41 <award3535> my frustration with making the effort to show up to the monday time frame and no one showed up 02:02:36 <award3535> I think either Tuesday or Thursday is fine, we just need to nail it down 02:02:47 <kk4ewt> +1 02:03:01 <award3535> which day do we want it 02:03:12 <kk4ewt> thursday fornow 02:03:38 <LinuxKnight> +1 thursday... I have commitment tuesday nights 02:03:50 <award3535> thursday 9pm east it will be, I will change the famna meeting page 02:03:52 <inode0> if someone could ask nirik to change .nextfamnameeting again that would be good ... maybe I just did 02:04:46 <inode0> there is also a fedocal thing - I'll try to change that, not sure who else can 02:05:07 <inode0> if this channel free then? 02:05:16 <kk4ewt> yes 02:05:24 <award3535> seems it was, no one but us were here 02:05:53 <inode0> that doesn't mean it is free every week 02:06:34 <kk4ewt> no one was scheduled for it 02:07:05 <inode0> ok, see you next Thursday 02:07:21 * inode0 didn't even know today was Thursday :( 02:07:44 <kk4ewt> inode0: you havingone of thos weeks too huh 02:08:16 <inode0> and it is repeating itself week after bloody week 02:09:07 <award3535> #agreed meetings for FAMNA Thursdays 9pm east 02:09:20 <award3535> any thing else tonight 02:10:29 <award3535> I will also change the budget sheet to reflect changes for OSCON 02:10:58 <award3535> if no one else has anything I will end it 02:11:17 <award3535> going once 02:11:25 <award3535> twice 02:11:37 <award3535> and thrice 02:11:53 <award3535> everyone thank you for showing up! 02:11:57 <award3535> #endmeeting