01:00:03 #startmeeting FAmNA 01:00:03 Meeting started Fri May 29 01:00:03 2015 UTC. The chair is award3535. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:00:03 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 01:00:11 #meetingname FAmNA 01:00:11 The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 01:00:28 #topic === FAmNA Roll Call === 01:01:06 anyone here yet 01:01:06 Hey all 01:01:21 I'm on my phone. 01:01:23 chair ParadoxGuitarist 01:01:37 #chair ParadoxGuitarist 01:01:37 Current chairs: ParadoxGuitarist award3535 01:01:48 boy Im with it tonight 01:02:00 Have to go on a walk with my prego wife 01:02:33 hmm, I am all done having children, 4 and the youngest is 25 01:02:46 all moved out and empty 01:03:05 Nice. We're expecting our first 01:03:15 BTY Track is down 01:03:34 BTW that is 01:03:49 congrats on having the first 01:04:04 but its no fun with only one 01:04:06 Thanks 01:04:48 Thanks haha I'll keep that in mind. He won't be too far away in age from my godson 01:05:13 like I said its no fun with only one 01:05:50 So... I went looking at USB drives 01:05:50 we will give it a few more minutes to see if any one else shows up 01:06:01 ok 01:06:46 #topic === Announcements === 01:07:16 I have been looking into the USB ticket, found a few other questions we need to ask 01:08:25 * masta looks in 01:08:31 howdy folks 01:08:33 evening masta 01:08:40 #chair masta 01:08:40 Current chairs: ParadoxGuitarist award3535 masta 01:09:21 nb: hey, I got the Central box. 01:09:29 for the record ^^ 01:09:30 I have no announcements 01:09:33 hi 01:09:35 cool 01:09:41 #chair nb 01:09:41 Current chairs: ParadoxGuitarist award3535 masta nb 01:09:41 masta, can you ship to me? 01:10:13 evening nb 01:10:18 hi all 01:10:28 nb: yep, but I'll need it again in August. I'll ship to you in the morning if we can get a label. 01:10:54 masta, dont worry about T shirts for August I will be bringing them with me 01:11:16 award3535: yeah, I figure d you would be. =) 01:11:35 masta, pm me a from address 01:11:36 Only found one place that prloads data. The cost goes up by data size. 01:11:40 please 01:11:47 nb: I'm glad to get rid of it, it's been in my garage nearly 10 months. 01:12:04 * nb has a quote for media and would like to get it approved tonight 01:12:09 we are hoping to have some done before SELF 01:12:19 although I plan to look for new quotes before F23 01:12:29 seems like we could get it cheaper, although getting new vendors added is hell 01:12:41 $6,000 for 5,000 DVDs 01:12:56 we are currently looking into the usb arena as well 01:13:14 #topic === Tickets === 01:13:24 yeah, good idea, but we need to stick with DVD for F22 at least 01:13:26 since it's already out 01:13:54 #link https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9 01:14:08 .famnaticket 106 01:14:09 award3535: #106 (Replacing DVD media with USB key for event distribution) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/106 01:14:19 trac is down right now 01:14:40 but I agree with nb we need to go with media now for f22 01:15:03 nb your up 01:15:28 Quote is $6,000 for 5,000 DVDs, same vendor as before 01:15:36 nb I agree I just think its a waste since we can't reuse them they go bad after 6 months and fewer and fewer computers come with CD drives 01:15:54 I thin it would be nice to switch to USB, possibly starting with next release 01:15:59 but not enough time for F22 01:16:07 hello 01:16:17 * Cydrobolt is here, but is busy with another important task 01:16:18 #chair Cydrobolt 01:16:18 Current chairs: Cydrobolt ParadoxGuitarist award3535 masta nb 01:17:00 +1 for DVD media F22 release 6K for 5K of media 01:17:48 we need two more vots 01:17:50 votes 01:17:57 +1 01:18:17 masta will be back in a few minutes, went to take the central event box to his vehicle 01:18:26 * masta is back 01:19:00 still need one more vote 01:19:14 * masta is +1 5k piece media at $6k USD 01:19:45 +1 01:19:56 #agreed $6,000.00 for 5K of media F22 01:19:59 sorry. Walking. 01:20:06 actually I'm +1 at $6k plus/minus a few hundred USD, understanding it's approximate 01:21:01 ParadoxGuitarist I believe that we could actually move to usb for F23 01:21:06 So Southern_Gentlem has generated the ISO, or do we still need that done? 01:21:20 which iso? 01:21:24 we use the official iso? 01:21:59 oh I thought he generated the multidesktop media himself 01:22:14 It might be nice to get a request to update USB-creator to do more than one at a time 01:22:37 I have looked into several companies and still looking at more 01:22:51 award3535, what kind of pricing are you getting? 01:23:20 nb, anywhere from 3.16 to 3.69 for more than 500 at a time 01:23:36 ParadoxGuitarist: things have advanced since.... there is a new tool to do parallel plexed writes to massive usb hubs with a bunch of thumb drives. 01:23:38 the lowest I found was 2.79 01:23:52 https://github.com/spotrh/multiboot-media-creator https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Multi_Boot_Media_SOP I just built 3 01:24:10 yeah, that 01:24:11 I only found one with predataload and it was around $6 01:24:20 satellit_e++ 01:24:44 for how big Andrew? 01:24:59 it's an activity an ambassador can do at the table 01:25:02 so the next question would be if we bought them and loaded them ourselves at events 01:25:18 ParadoxGuitartist they were 2GB 01:25:23 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_21#MultiWriter works for me 01:26:06 * satellit_e f21 and f22 01:26:12 Ah. I was only looking at 8gb 01:26:45 the smallest was 1GB not large enough though 01:26:56 Yeah 01:27:36 I would also check spin sizes and make sure they all fit. 01:27:59 * nb has one more proposal 01:28:11 SELF2015. We might have media, we might not. Depending on when they get done 01:28:25 * nb would like approval to spend, IDK, $200 or so on media 01:28:34 (media as in DVD+R and sleeves) 01:28:46 if we need to 01:29:02 nb I think there is enough room in the budget proposal to do such 01:29:13 yeah, i just want a +1 from FAmNA 01:29:17 +1 01:29:36 and make sure we list that in the ticket when trac comes back up 01:29:54 +1 01:30:35 need one more vote 01:30:57 * nb abstains since it was his request 01:31:07 ParadoxGuitarist, satellit_e Cydrobolt 01:31:10 ParadoxGuitarist? 01:31:17 Hi nb 01:31:20 * Cydrobolt reads 01:31:23 +1 01:31:25 +1 01:31:42 thanks 01:32:09 #agreed nb might spend money ~$200 or so on DVD+R, etc for SELF if pressed media is not available in time 01:32:29 thanks nb was typing it 01:32:51 your approved budget has enough room in it anyway 01:32:54 yeah 01:33:22 #topic == Open Floor === 01:33:33 So, who is planning on going to Flock? 01:33:49 * nb just received notification that my "FAmNA Brainstorming" workshop was accepted 01:33:53 * nb would like to have people come to it :) 01:34:01 where and when, havent seen it yet 01:34:22 i got an email from rsuehle 01:34:29 * nb doesn't think the list of sessions has been announced yet 01:34:32 but they emailed the speakers 01:34:41 or do you mean when and where is flock? 01:34:41 nb: I'd like to go to flock but haven't even registered yet 01:34:48 it's in August in Rochester, NY 01:35:11 August I am in Texas 01:35:56 here is link to fedora Mult-Boot fyi http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/releases/22/Multi/ 01:35:59 August is the worst time of the year for me work wise. school is just starting up. 01:36:02 ug 12-15 it looks like 01:36:29 so we have a multiboot iso for f22. interesting 01:36:30 that is the week before TXLF 01:36:35 * nb did not know we were going to make any anymore 01:37:59 yeah 01:38:07 I didn't think we were either 01:38:32 How big is it? 01:39:19 so that leads into the question I had before should we be creating usb media at events and giving out usb drives and making local DVDs for those who request it 01:39:25 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/thumb/7/78/Multi-Desktop.JPG/750px-Multi-Desktop.JPG 01:39:33 shown main menu 01:39:43 seems like that is what the Ubuntu guys did in Fossetcon last year 01:41:04 We tend to have left over Fedora USBs after RH summit 01:41:14 like giant boxes of them 01:41:40 So we could load them with the latest release as well at events 01:41:41 so perhaps if we ask spot for left overs 01:41:47 there is no gnome/workstation on that iso? 01:41:47 I would say before events would be best 01:42:22 we should probably buy three large USB hubs for the event boxen. 01:42:30 to serve as multi-writers 01:42:31 before events is perfered 01:43:03 and yes a large usb hub would also help 01:43:38 There's enough mayhem at events to forgo adding imaging USB drives at the table or in the booths 01:44:28 but I like masta's idea, ask spot for the left overs and get them distributed to us for imaging preparing for events 01:44:39 ParadoxGuitarist: oh contrary... it's a table magnet. The activity looks interesting and draws attention. 01:44:59 but it's usually better to have two booth workers 01:45:12 yes two booth workers is best 01:45:37 * ParadoxGuitarist has always been swamped at booth work. Probably because he was doing music demos. 01:45:38 masta we could try this at TXLF if you wish 01:46:10 award3535: that's what I always do, fyi... I have always setup a usb write station at events (and past txlf's) 01:46:20 as a test platform 01:46:34 Alright. I have to get going. I'm in favor of all of it. 01:46:45 cya paradox =) 01:46:57 I have only made one TXLF when it was in San Antonio, it was inode0 and I 01:48:36 Anybody seen inode0 lately? 01:49:35 masta last I knew he was promoted and it takes up all of his time, got an email a few weeks ago from him 01:50:19 ok cool, just curious. He was my mentor and haven't seen him around lately. 01:50:43 yeah, he was kind of mine along with kk4ewt 01:51:19 in fact he suggested that I attend the Linuxcon in New Orleans that time to represent us 01:52:18 well does anyone have anything else 01:52:30 ok folks, I got a good deal of chaos here at the house putting food on the table for my family, so I'm going to wonder off now. Thanks for running the meeting award3535 =) 01:52:44 no problem 01:52:44 * masta wonders off 01:52:59 #endmeeting