01:01:10 #startmeeting FAmNA 01:01:10 Meeting started Fri Sep 4 01:01:10 2015 UTC. The chair is award3535. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:01:10 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 01:01:22 #meetingname FAmNA 01:01:22 The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 01:01:34 #topic === FAmNA Roll Call === 01:01:41 .hello corey84 01:01:42 linux-modder: corey84 'Corey Sheldon' 01:01:57 .hello paradoxguitarist 01:01:58 ParadoxGuitarist: paradoxguitarist 'Brian Monroe' 01:01:59 evening all 01:02:17 #chair Cydorbolt wrnash1 ParadoxGuitarist linux-modder 01:02:17 Current chairs: Cydorbolt ParadoxGuitarist award3535 linux-modder wrnash1 01:02:27 Wonder how many will show up tonight due to football 01:02:33 nice showing tonight 01:02:38 #topic === Announcements === 01:02:41 * kk4ewt 01:02:53 #chair kk4ewt 01:02:53 Current chairs: Cydorbolt ParadoxGuitarist award3535 kk4ewt linux-modder wrnash1 01:03:18 announcements anyone 01:03:50 I have something to bring up 01:04:01 Will be going to DevFestDc 11-12 th had a few requests for demos 01:04:23 *** F22-20150826 updated lives are available at http://tinyurl.com/Live-respins *** 01:05:07 we as ambassadors need to adhere to the guidelines set forth for tickets and requesting funding 01:05:57 ??? 01:06:14 which ticket are you talking about? 01:06:24 ruth and I spoke about some things going on with funding (and Budget) 01:06:54 none in particular, its the ones that dont get placed in tickets 01:07:13 Like Tablecloths? 01:07:14 ah so more of a ticket or no funding thing 01:07:41 you got it, we cant track it if there is no ticket 01:07:47 ok 01:07:49 Ah, recent tablecloth quotes 01:08:16 last i saw from the ml was ~$400 for fedora blue or did that change 01:08:21 those can be entered since we talked about it, but they need tickets created 01:08:31 To raise an a counterpoint, we had a ticket for tableclosths at one point. 01:08:39 that applies to events as well 01:09:42 table cloths we did 01:09:53 I agree that a ticket will need to be created if someone is going to do some researching 01:10:04 105 01:10:40 and i think the banners we did 01:11:00 yes but those were not the problem 01:13:01 I also think, it would be good to always have our budget in front of us. 01:13:08 * danofsatx-lt is here 01:13:09 I don't think I've ever seen our budget 01:13:16 class is over, but I'll stick around for a bit 01:13:18 What I need to have happen, is before anything is brought for a vote for funds there needs to be a ticket created and updated each time 01:13:42 award3535: Is it already posted somewhere online? 01:13:44 ParadoxGuitarist I didnt even get the number to start 01:13:49 jeff joins late 01:13:58 award3535: THAT IS A HUGE DEAL 01:14:11 #chair danofsatx-It jsandys 01:14:11 Current chairs: Cydorbolt ParadoxGuitarist award3535 danofsatx-It jsandys kk4ewt linux-modder wrnash1 01:15:02 No kidding, the items I cannot track if one, I dont have a ticket to reference, two the final expenses sent to me, so keeping a budget is 01:15:12 completely impossible 01:15:29 Was Ruth able to share it with us? 01:15:49 I have tried several times to get final costs of events, etc, emailed to me and only a handful get to me 01:16:28 Once ruth and I get the funds nailed down (next week) I will share the remaining budget with all concerned 01:16:57 I'm all for hainvg us all look at the budget before each item we vote on 01:17:10 same here 01:17:14 so just like the requirements for requesting reembursment 01:17:24 i agree totally 01:17:27 there will be the same requesting it 01:17:41 more than fair 01:18:23 I think we should go over the budget first before going to tickets 01:18:30 Agreed 01:18:40 So as your budget guy once we get this nailed down, I will prior to each item voted on, give the remaining funds in each area 01:19:13 sounds good 01:19:20 This is related, they want some swag for an event up in the Bay area. 01:19:31 Do we have the budget to send that? 01:19:46 right now there are only a couple of items out there that really does not effect some smaller items 01:20:23 shipping as long as we keep the expense down with no two day or overnight stuff yes 01:20:32 planning planning planning 01:20:35 is the key 01:21:07 They ask for two day, so I'll deny it then 01:21:10 well planning went out the door for myself and nb afte Flock i was working 15 hours days and it slipped up on my 01:21:13 me 01:21:33 some things are not avoidable 01:22:06 TXLF was in flux right up until the event 01:22:15 then i dropped the box off in time for 2 day shipping at ground rate and the person said it would go out at 5pm the next moring it was still there so i had to do overnite 01:22:18 I will talk off line about it 01:25:31 ok tablecloths 01:25:32 If we go with a stock color (like white or "blue"), this is the pricing: 01:25:32 6 ft. - $205.00 01:25:32 8 ft. - $225.00 01:25:33 Set-up fee - $40.00 01:25:33 If we do a pantone color match ("fedora blue"), this is the pricing: 01:25:34 6 ft - $390.00 01:25:36 8 ft. - $410.00 01:25:38 Set-up - $40.00 01:25:47 I'm for Black 01:25:50 cheaper. 01:25:57 Plus should last us longer 01:26:06 +1 for black 01:26:11 i see the time as same 01:26:19 +1 Black 01:26:28 +1 black 01:26:28 +1 black 8 foot 01:26:33 -1 01:27:07 what's your concern kk4ewt? 01:27:07 8 foot cloth will fit a 6 foot table but not the other way around. 01:27:25 jsandys: My thoughts exactly. 01:27:30 gives us options but how many events need 8' 01:27:33 does these have fedora logo on it 01:27:40 all of them 01:27:40 kk4ewt: Yes 01:27:53 then white shows that the best 01:28:08 kk4ewt: White also get dirty the quickest 01:28:09 and makes our booth stand out 01:28:21 Washing it reduce it's life. 01:28:22 thats why they make washing machines 01:28:30 kk4ewt, does have a point 01:28:52 white is nice but needs cleaning, blue would be ok, but color match is not worth it IMHO. 01:28:54 ParadoxGuitarist, how many time will it be washed a year 1-3 01:29:12 to keep the system on track I am going to shift to open floor 01:29:24 #topic === Tickets === 01:29:28 Should it be dry clean 01:29:29 and when they get used 4-5 times a year 01:29:35 #link https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9 01:29:38 hopefully 01:29:41 not 01:29:42 NO Tickets 01:29:48 kk4ewt: one spill or dirty hand on the first day of an multi-day event and we we go from sticking-out to stay away. 01:29:53 #topic == Open Floor === 01:29:57 the one we have is machine wshable 01:30:07 keep the conversation going 01:30:16 ParadoxGuitarist, and block show dirt as bad 01:30:21 black 01:30:26 honestly tho all drinks should be off the cloth tho no? 01:30:27 I don't think so 01:30:39 ParadoxGuitarist, it does 01:30:51 linux-modder: doesn't stop folks walking around with their free beer as they visit the booth 01:30:53 all dust and eveything shows up 01:31:07 Dust yes, but not as obviously 01:31:12 forgot about that 01:31:17 ParadoxGuitarist, my wife does direct sales and her black clothes show more dirt 01:31:43 * ParadoxGuitarist shrugs. I guess it depends on dye job. 01:31:44 dust shows up on black, everything else shows up on white. I say blue - the one we used at TXLF stayed presentable throughout the weekend. 01:32:26 The ones that they use at my Univeristy don't show on the black. 01:32:37 light blue, with dark blue and black or white print? 01:32:41 Probably depends on the material as well. 01:32:44 ParadoxGuitarist, and she does 2-3 shows a week 01:32:57 i will go with blue 01:33:19 is it navy blue or fedora blue if we go solid color 01:33:20 i highly suggest no black 01:33:35 I'm in favor of blue over white 01:33:52 Blue over white with me as well 01:33:56 the shows we work the brighter the color the better 01:33:56 black or blue 01:34:14 colors stand out, black is easiest to deal with 01:34:30 makes the booth stand out verse the other booths at a event 01:34:51 and standing out likely means more visits 01:35:02 well, it's hard to stand out when you're directly opposite Rackspace and Ubuntu. 01:35:24 doesn't mean we can't try 01:35:38 Screw that. I had music. Rackspace was visiting my booth. 01:35:42 I'd be game for blue 01:35:52 =) 01:36:25 jsandys was there. 01:36:37 =1 music 01:36:45 Ok blue? 01:37:11 Blue. 01:37:30 +1 blue i guess makes more sense than black 01:37:36 3 of the standard blue is still cheaper than 2 fedora blue. 01:37:43 can we see samples of the stock colors? 01:37:50 Light blue, Dark blue 01:37:55 what's the company name? 01:38:02 we dont know 01:38:02 who gave the quote? 01:38:09 *grumble* 01:38:10 spot 01:38:18 spot: !!!!!!!!!!!!! 01:38:24 look in your ambassdor enmail 01:38:40 yes spot gave us the information, the quote was from the same folks that take care of RH 01:38:54 initial subject was NA --tablecloth qoute iirc 01:39:43 No, the banner one had the vendor 01:39:50 yes we need 8' thats a given 01:40:50 ok at this point we need to ask to see the stock colors then go from there 01:41:17 ParadoxGuitarist, di you see the request for swag for the eventt of the 9th 01:41:33 from Matt \ 01:42:06 +1 see stock colors 01:42:30 kk4ewt: that was one I brought up earlier 01:42:38 they're requesting two day shipping 01:42:41 I'd be for darker blue but seeing stock is best 01:45:25 http://cdn.displays2go.com/images/bgd8rc24hr.rw.jpg 01:45:40 if it's like these colors I'm in favor of the medium blue 01:46:01 Listed PMS 300 01:47:54 ParadoxGuitarist where is the ticket for the Bay area you were discussing, I did not see it 01:48:24 i would go lighter, 292, so dark text and logo stands out 01:48:41 jsandys, that is what my wife picked as well 01:48:48 ParadoxGuitarist I just PM'd you with another question 01:48:53 award3535: it's in famnarequests 01:49:15 id be for 292 or 300 01:49:37 292 she siad is closer to the fedora color 01:50:05 but then again we have to wait to see what the budget says 01:50:09 when is the SF event? 01:50:17 9-9 01:50:45 What is needed? 01:51:48 https://fedorahosted.org/famnarequests/ticket/382 01:53:07 kk4ewt am on it, puzzled why project leader would put a 2 day request in knowing that my ears were burning from inode0 on the cost 01:53:48 and inode0 approved it in the board meeting 01:54:11 cause i guess he thought it was close that ground would work 01:54:17 So I'm sending it? 01:54:27 send it please 01:54:32 I think so 01:54:35 I didn't find out for how many people until this morning 01:54:40 I'll send it tomorrow. 01:54:48 Sending DVDs and stickers 01:55:05 anything you can 01:55:11 please update the ticket as well ParadoxGuitarist 01:55:23 will do 01:55:28 TY 01:55:55 Two day or ground? 01:55:58 It's in CA 01:56:29 I'm in southern california, and it's going to the bay area 01:56:50 two day what apparently approved 01:56:57 Ok 01:57:14 I'll take it to the UPS store 01:57:48 and I'll bug vwbusguy to print me out a shipping label 01:58:58 open floor? 01:59:26 we are already there i shifted to open floor awhile ago 01:59:37 College Ambassadors, what can we do? It was a topic that came up at flock. 02:00:09 I have one on the hook right now at michigan 02:00:18 I am his mentor 02:00:22 I would love to set up a program here at my Uni. 02:01:02 I think the key to this is faculty engagement. 02:01:21 and the willingness of the individual as well 02:01:38 ParadoxGuitarist, contact me in the morning and i will kick you out a label 02:02:12 jsandys, it has been tried several times and has fallen flat 02:02:26 I've dropped off disks at half a dozen local campuses over SoCal, had conversations, left my card, offered to sponsor events, and haven't heard back from a single person. 02:03:13 I'll make a wiki page of my ideas for discussion. 02:03:18 I have as well, even tried the high schools in my area with computer clubs 02:03:27 Then we have people that get called in for HackRU and they just kill it. 02:04:00 Cydrobolt did that event last year 02:04:13 Hey 02:04:16 What's going on? 02:04:19 yeah, and he got engaged there! 02:04:34 he did a great job 02:04:35 well i have a installfest with the VTLUUG on sunday 02:04:37 Cydrobolt: Just talking about how you were tearing it up at HackRU last year 02:04:45 ParadoxGuitarist, HackRU was the best 02:04:53 ITT Technical has a Fedora class, but they're on version 15 or 16 and the professors won't call me back. 02:05:58 that is the same problem I run into as well, the classes wont leave or update curriculum 02:06:22 I offered to just come in and talk about Fedora. 02:06:25 that would require updating and correcting 02:07:15 jsandys can I identify you as action on the wiki page discussion 02:07:41 Sure 02:08:00 i do a yearly day long class in the local high school "intro to linux" 02:08:18 kk4ewt: That's awesome 02:08:44 kk4ewt: You should poll all the android users and send them home. ;) 02:08:57 #action jsandys to create wiki discussion page for college ambassador program 02:09:26 ParadoxGuitarist, as with a lot of schools 02:10:16 ok folks we are out of time infact 10 minutes over 02:10:59 ParadoxGuitarist, there is an ITT tech near me I can see 02:11:00 we have to end the meeting any thing else before we go 02:11:22 not I 02:11:35 nothing 02:11:47 linux-modder: I've visited 4 since I travel all over SoCal for work. 02:12:03 this is east coast 02:12:26 I've got to run...are we voting on anything? 02:12:29 please move any discussions that you wish to continue to the ambassadors irc 02:12:30 linux-modder: I really hope they take advantage of you. 02:12:32 brother was best buds with the CS folks 02:12:35 I'm done 02:12:43 Good meeting all. 02:12:54 great meeting tonight !! 02:13:09 see you all next week 02:13:13 #endmeeting