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02:00:13 <linuxmodder> .hello corey84
02:00:14 <zodbot> linuxmodder: corey84 'Corey Sheldon' <sheldon.corey@gmail.com>
02:00:22 <award3535> #topic === FAmNA Roll Call ===
02:00:27 <jflory7> .hello jflory7
02:00:28 <zodbot> jflory7: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' <me@justinwflory.com>
02:00:31 <jflory7> Evening all!
02:00:47 <award3535> #chair linuxmodder jflory7
02:00:47 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 jflory7 linuxmodder
02:00:51 <cydrobolt> o/
02:00:51 <linuxmodder> award3535,  evening how was your holidays
02:01:11 <award3535> linuxmodder busy and stressful
02:01:17 <cydrobolt> hello award3535
02:01:18 <award3535> but all better now
02:01:22 <linuxmodder> cydrobolt,  thanks for earlier  fix  too btw
02:01:27 <cydrobolt> linuxmodder, np
02:01:29 <linuxmodder> award3535,  sounds like mine
02:01:41 <award3535> #chair cydrobolt
02:01:41 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 cydrobolt jflory7 linuxmodder
02:02:01 <linuxmodder> jflory7, award3535  might be  pushing that  youth |campus ambass article back a week as result
02:02:09 <juggler> o/
02:02:18 <linuxmodder> eveing
02:02:18 <award3535> jflory7 i approved your ambassador status and will close the ticket on once i speak with you
02:02:36 <juggler> congratulations jflory7
02:02:36 <jflory7> linuxmodder: No worries - the holidays probably would've been a hard to collaborate + publish anyways. We'll work on it. :)
02:02:43 <jflory7> award3535: Thank you! Sounds good to me!
02:02:47 <award3535> no problem linuxmodder
02:02:48 <jflory7> juggler: Thanks!
02:03:03 <linuxmodder> award3535,  btw nice  writeup re:email
02:03:32 <award3535> linuxmodder ty, I always try to write good stuff
02:03:36 <award3535> #topic === Announcements ===
02:04:05 <award3535> I would like to formally announce our latest ambassador jflory7
02:04:11 <linuxmodder> jflory7,  pm \email em after mtg  please  regarding  MAGIC lab
02:04:21 <linuxmodder> welcome jflory7
02:04:34 <award3535> #chair juggler
02:04:34 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 cydrobolt jflory7 juggler linuxmodder
02:04:36 <jflory7> award3535: Thank you. :)
02:04:52 <jflory7> linuxmodder: Okay, will do - I will be here after the meeting for a while so we can chat then.
02:05:02 <linuxmodder> kk
02:05:02 <jflory7> linuxmodder: And thanks! :)
02:05:09 <cydrobolt> welcome jflory7 !
02:05:16 <jflory7> Thanks cydrobolt!
02:05:27 <award3535> hopefully the folks that will be running scale are present tonight
02:05:29 <AndChat|266961> Jsandys is having trouble logging in
02:05:55 <award3535> jsandys, having some login issues?
02:06:24 <jflory7> I also have one announcement once you finish yours, award3535
02:06:27 <juggler> scale attendee here
02:06:30 <juggler> <
02:06:46 <juggler> not sure about paradoxguitarist being here tho
02:06:50 <award3535> juggler did you have any information to add to scale
02:07:28 <award3535> jflory7 go ahead
02:07:38 <jflory7> Okay--
02:08:13 <juggler> does anyone know if paradox has req'd any Fedora media for the event?
02:08:30 <jflory7> #info The CommOps team is helping all of the different subgroups of Fedora write a "Year in Review" article about 2015 (three highlights?) and a goal for 2016 - Ambassadors included!
02:08:32 <award3535> i have seen no tickets for media
02:08:33 <jflory7> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/share-your-year-in-review-with-fedora/
02:09:03 <juggler> hm... ok. what's a good number to ask for these types of events?
02:09:20 <linuxmodder> how many  were expected again juggler ?
02:09:27 <jflory7> There is a template that we could use to easily make an article - what we need to discuss is three highlights of this past year, such as any events of note, and maybe a goal we have for 2016 as FAmNA
02:10:08 <award3535> this will be a great tool for us to get more in the budget if it is executed well
02:10:18 <linuxmodder> like to see campus | youth ambassador  initiative  rebooted personally
02:10:24 <juggler> modder...not sure
02:10:32 <jflory7> I think that would be a good 2016 goal, linuxmodder.
02:10:38 <jflory7> Agreed, award3535.
02:10:41 <award3535> linuxmodder that is great for a goal
02:10:50 <jflory7> If decause is around, he might be able to say a few words on it too, but he may be away right now.
02:11:05 <linuxmodder> not like  we don't have a few in that space  or  working on that  :)
02:11:36 <award3535> I would like to move on to tickets, then we can discuss this topic in open floor
02:11:50 <linuxmodder> jflory7,  does magic lab still do outside campus open source  workshops?
02:12:03 <linuxmodder> onward then :)
02:12:04 <jflory7> award3535: +1
02:12:20 <award3535> #topic === Tickets ===
02:12:30 <award3535> #link https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9
02:12:43 <award3535> take a minute to review what is there
02:12:50 <juggler> modder got my last msg?
02:13:21 <cydrobolt> I agree
02:13:53 <cydrobolt> I'd like to help spread out Fedora to a student crowd, but I'm not sure our current budget is great at juggling the different types of outreach we're trying to accomplish
02:14:28 <award3535> cydrobolt lets hold that topic for open floor
02:14:33 <award3535> .famnaticket 118
02:14:34 <cydrobolt> right
02:14:35 <zodbot> award3535: #118 (LFNW 2016) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/118
02:14:56 <award3535> this event is scheduled for april 2016
02:15:26 <award3535> there is some information that needs a little explanation, will require jsandys
02:15:59 <award3535> and since this falls into next years budget, I have some questions as well
02:17:37 <award3535> we have lots of time on this ticket, I would recommend keeping an eye on this until jsandys is available
02:18:31 <AndChat|266961> Jsandys is trying a different computer
02:19:39 <linuxmodder> juggler,  no i didnt
02:20:01 <award3535> jsandys we will revisit your ticket when you are able to log on
02:20:15 <award3535> .famnaticket 119
02:20:16 <zodbot> award3535: #119 (OSCON 2016 booth) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/119
02:20:47 <award3535> .famnaticket 118
02:20:48 <zodbot> award3535: #118 (LFNW 2016) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/118
02:20:56 <award3535> #chair jsandys
02:20:56 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 cydrobolt jflory7 jsandys juggler linuxmodder
02:21:02 <jsandys> jsandys is thankful for his old computer
02:21:08 <award3535> yeah
02:21:18 <linuxmodder> great for those  pinch issues
02:21:26 <award3535> jsandys the ticket is back on the table
02:22:17 <award3535> jsandys your up...
02:22:17 <jsandys> Good, Bill is holding game night for us until next week
02:22:38 <jsandys> Game night sponsorship is $1000
02:24:01 <jsandys> We should also commit to a gold sponsorship
02:24:52 <award3535> jsandys the ticket lists the game night as title for 3k as well or is that 1.5k per sponsor
02:25:12 <jsandys> http://linuxfestnorthwest.org/2016/sponsor/packages
02:26:00 <jsandys> Now this year is Title sponsor for $3000, I don't think we should do that.
02:26:00 <award3535> I am good with gold level sponsor
02:26:11 <jsandys> New this year ...
02:26:18 <award3535> ok got it
02:26:33 <award3535> what about rooms, travel, etc....
02:27:02 <jsandys> Last year we did both Gold and Game Night for $2000 total
02:27:55 <jsandys> I pay my own travel and room, but I put $500 for it in the budget for others
02:28:09 * linuxmodder has to boogy early  tonight folks  see you next week
02:28:38 <juggler> cya modder
02:28:56 <award3535> jsandys does 3K cover the costs?
02:29:06 <linuxmodder> juggler,  I'll follow up with that pm later tonight kk?
02:29:26 <juggler> thx modd
02:29:39 <jflory7> linuxmodder: Will you be around later?
02:30:13 <linuxmodder> yeah just  got a  call in client  to deal with a printer issue  is all
02:30:23 <award3535> I move to set a budget of 3K for LFNW
02:30:41 <award3535> we can visit the amount later if needed
02:30:57 <jsandys> 2K will cover the registration leaving 1K for travel, hotel, swag and the box shipping.
02:31:25 <award3535> +1 for 3K LFNW
02:31:37 <award3535> juggler?
02:31:46 <award3535> jflory7?
02:31:47 <juggler> yep
02:31:56 <kk4ewt> +1
02:32:04 <jsandys> We were less than 3000 last year even with flying paradoxguitar up.
02:32:04 <juggler> +1
02:32:08 <jsandys> +1
02:32:09 <award3535> #chair kk4ewt
02:32:09 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 cydrobolt jflory7 jsandys juggler kk4ewt linuxmodder
02:32:10 <jflory7> +1
02:32:38 <award3535> #agreed 3K for LFNW
02:32:51 <award3535> .famnaticket 117
02:32:53 <zodbot> award3535: #117 (SCaLE Event Budget) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/117
02:33:05 <jsandys> How does Ruth get this info to handle the billing?
02:33:46 <award3535> jsandys email her with the specifics on who to contact, she will complete a PO and get things moving
02:34:04 <jflory7> award3535: Was there any new info about this ticket? I think we mentioned it at our last meeting but we didn't have much to discuss since it mostly budget info which we didn't have at the time.
02:34:36 <award3535> jsandys also update the ticket with approval by FAMNA and todays date
02:35:39 <award3535> jflory7 we will have a budget by april
02:35:45 <jsandys> Thank you
02:35:59 <jflory7> award3535: Okay, that's good news.
02:36:12 <jflory7> Is there something we can do with #117 in the meanwhile?
02:36:23 <award3535> jflory7 this will be the first event for us as well using the new system and reports
02:36:48 * jflory7 nods
02:36:56 <jflory7> So a lot of important things associated with this event.
02:37:41 <award3535> jflory7 we most likely will have to set an emergency meeting to get this moving, I have only two ambassadors attending so far and possibly a third and no information on booth, costs, etc....
02:39:08 <jflory7> Ouch. Yes, definitely - I forgot that this in a couple of weeks. I was swapping the dates with something else.
02:39:47 <jflory7> What would be the next step to help expedite this process?
02:39:52 <award3535> the link shows 3K (2799.00)
02:40:36 <award3535> I think we should vote on 3K to cover the cost, and then get the information to ruth for processing
02:40:58 <kk4ewt> -1
02:41:21 <award3535> kk4ewt thoughts
02:42:16 <kk4ewt> if they cant come to the meeting to propose the budget for the event they want to do then, i dont think he should give them a check to continue
02:42:43 <kk4ewt> (past events for scale where we have gotten no reports )
02:43:43 <juggler> hmm...does that mean i won't get reimbursed when all is said and done?
02:43:45 <award3535> reasonable, since the only representative here is the new ambassador juggler who has not planned an event yet
02:43:58 <award3535> juggler, that is correct
02:44:13 <award3535> so I would hold off on spending any money
02:44:17 <juggler> bummer... considering i'm at least making some effort here
02:44:43 <kk4ewt> juggler,  yes you are making an effort but you are not the event organizer are you?
02:44:48 <juggler> well i've spent money as it's on my credit card and i will need to present at the conference.
02:44:50 <juggler> :)
02:44:58 <juggler> nope
02:45:08 <juggler> just helping out where i can
02:45:26 <award3535> I think we should contact the event organizer and find out what is going on
02:45:31 <juggler> afaik i'm not the organizer
02:45:41 <jflory7> ParadoxGuitarist is the event organizer, correct?
02:45:49 <kk4ewt> ok this is for scale we need to check the older meeting logs we might have already approved this budget
02:45:50 <jflory7> Or is this someone else?
02:46:02 <juggler> yeah, where is that detail...the event organizer info?
02:46:25 <kk4ewt> i am thinking that we did one night that award wasnt here
02:46:37 <jflory7> I see Paradox reported the ticket for budgeting, but I can't see where that info is.
02:46:55 <jflory7> If it was the last meeting in December, I don't know if we approved that budget since it was a low attendance meeting.
02:47:28 <award3535> no tickets were updated as well, and i didnt remember seeing anything about scale in the logs
02:47:49 <jsandys> This event is in two weeks, can we approve juggler's expense today?  Or wait till next week?
02:48:18 <kk4ewt> i am thinking we have approved this
02:48:46 <award3535> checking now
02:48:48 <kk4ewt> aso yes i agree that we go ahead and do $3k
02:49:06 <jflory7> http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-12-18/famna.2015-12-18-02.00.html
02:49:40 <jflory7> Last meeting was mostly Tickets #117-119 and the Campus Ambassadors discussion
02:49:56 <juggler> offhand, we may also want to do a future note to ourselves somewhere to square these details for scale around novemberish in light of the flurry of the holidays.
02:50:04 <juggler> just a thought
02:50:31 <jflory7> juggler: Yeah, the time immediately after the holidays is always a little bit sluggish while people are catching up on everything.
02:51:06 <kk4ewt> jflory7,  i am talking around the time award was away for fossetcon in orloado
02:51:17 <kk4ewt> award what was the date for orlando
02:51:31 <kk4ewt> juggler ^^
02:52:35 <award3535> just reviewed the logs from 12/18 no budget even discussed with ticket 117
02:53:02 <juggler> kk4ewt yes? did i miss a question? i'm sorry
02:53:02 <jflory7> kk4ewt: That would have been Nov. 19th
02:53:36 <jsandys> Are we voting on a $3000 budget for SCALE?
02:53:50 <award3535> jsandys it is in discussion
02:54:47 <award3535> there is no logs posted for nov19th
02:55:45 <juggler> ok...so our path forward is...?
02:56:01 <award3535> so unless someone can produce logs, there is no record of this
02:56:34 <jflory7> award3535: Do we know who the event coordinator is?
02:56:39 <jflory7> That's one detail I am still unsure of
02:56:55 <juggler> ^agree
02:57:09 <jflory7> And then, after that, the other question I have is what information do we need / require from them about this specifically?
02:57:28 <jflory7> If we have no specific questions or concerns to be answered, I don't see non-attendance as a reason to reject the budget approval
02:57:32 <jsandys> Budget is 8 nights lodging ($989), parking $40, sponsorship $750, and two flights $1020
02:57:48 <jsandys> Flights for aacosta ($700), Flights for Lorddrachenblut ($320)
02:57:50 <award3535> yes, we need to get ahold of the event organizer and have him pitch the event
02:58:05 <jflory7> Is that ParadoxGuitarist?
02:58:14 <award3535> jflory7 yes
02:58:15 <kk4ewt> motion we approve 3K for now
02:58:21 <award3535> +1
02:58:24 <juggler> +1
02:58:26 <kk4ewt> +1
02:58:40 <jsandys> +1
02:58:40 <award3535> jflory7?
02:59:07 <kk4ewt> jflory7,  according to the wiki page yes
02:59:20 <cydrobolt> +1
02:59:22 <jflory7> +1 for approving.
02:59:31 <award3535> #agreed budget for Scale 3K
02:59:58 <jsandys> Who is aacosta, they are not listed as an event volunteer?
03:00:12 <juggler> *shrug*
03:00:23 <award3535> .famnaticket 119
03:00:24 <zodbot> award3535: #119 (OSCON 2016 booth) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/119
03:00:34 <kk4ewt> juggler,  be sure to do your blog posts about the event and be sure award gets the reciepts please
03:00:46 <award3535> I move that we discuss this next week
03:01:20 <award3535> yes please, you may not get reimbursed unless I see your reports/blogs and receipts
03:01:22 <juggler> kk4 will do. may need help in figuring out how to do the blog posts the first time later, but absolutely :)
03:01:26 <jflory7> This was the email I sent to the list last meeting about that ticket: https://i.j-f.co/u/7fb1e72aae55e6e621a7707fe44e4e58.png
03:01:35 <jflory7> Going to try to find the ML link
03:02:00 <award3535> jflory7 I read the logs, no budget approval
03:02:06 <jflory7> award3535: Right.
03:02:17 <juggler> need to head off shortly...any other items for my attention?
03:02:39 <jsandys> I started a wiki page for College Ambassadors, I like Campus Ambassadors better.
03:02:44 <jsandys> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/College_Ambassadors
03:03:54 <jflory7> jsandys: Campus Ambassadors has a little bit of history with it - something that started up in 2009, but it was before my time.
03:04:15 <jflory7> Not sure at what point it stagnated.
03:04:28 <jflory7> I think it will be a good topic for next meeting since we're running short on time
03:04:50 <award3535> I agree, also ticket 119 OSCon
03:05:12 <jsandys> Flesh out some ideas on the wiki.
03:05:17 <juggler> well all, i will be off to my next meeting. happy new year all.
03:05:52 <award3535> yes I will push agenda for next meeting. everyone have a great night
03:05:55 <jflory7> See you, juggler!
03:06:13 <jflory7> I am reluctant to say much on #119 without knowing more about the budget
03:06:22 <jflory7> I know Paradox said it was an event he thought he could attend
03:06:27 <jflory7> Or was that wrnash?
03:06:36 <jflory7> Actually, I think it was wrnash
03:06:58 <jflory7> I don't necessarily see any other downsides to it, however
03:07:14 <jflory7> Just cost is my concern, and I don't know if I have the information / experience to make a good call on that one
03:07:28 <juggler> see you jflory7, all
03:08:38 <award3535> jflory7 I may attend as well to oscon
03:09:12 <award3535> #endmeeting