02:00:11 #startmeeting FAmNA 02:00:11 Meeting started Fri Jan 29 02:00:11 2016 UTC. The chair is award3535. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 02:00:11 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 02:00:11 The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 02:00:21 #meetingname FAmNA 02:00:21 The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 02:00:33 #topic === FAmNA Roll Call === 02:00:36 .hello jflory7 02:00:37 jflory7: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' 02:00:45 Hi everyone 02:00:50 #chair jflory7wrnash 02:00:50 Current chairs: award3535 jflory7wrnash 02:00:56 Hello wrnash! 02:01:14 \o 02:01:35 ALL Hail Tux the Magnificent! 02:01:49 #chair MarkDuke 02:01:49 Current chairs: MarkDuke award3535 jflory7wrnash 02:02:03 #chair MarkDude 02:02:03 Current chairs: MarkDude MarkDuke award3535 jflory7wrnash 02:02:32 #topic === Announcements === 02:02:39 anyone have anything 02:02:48 o/ 02:02:48 I have a few. 02:02:54 #chair juggler 02:02:54 Current chairs: MarkDude MarkDuke award3535 jflory7wrnash juggler 02:03:08 go jflory7 02:03:12 sorry, I was in the *other* room :) 02:03:17 heh 02:03:46 award3535: Oh, could you chair me again so I can #info? wrnash and I are clumped together. 02:03:48 Hi juggler! 02:03:54 #chair jflory7 02:03:54 Current chairs: MarkDude MarkDuke award3535 jflory7 jflory7wrnash juggler 02:04:04 juggler: Thanks! 02:04:07 #chair wrnash 02:04:07 Current chairs: MarkDude MarkDuke award3535 jflory7 jflory7wrnash juggler wrnash 02:04:10 #chair jflory7 02:04:10 Current chairs: MarkDude MarkDuke award3535 jflory7 jflory7wrnash juggler wrnash 02:04:23 * kk4ewt 02:04:28 #info FAmNA published their Year in Review on the Community Blog. award3535 wrote up our highlights of 2015 and some goals for 2016. 02:04:30 #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/ambassadors-north-america-year-review/ 02:04:36 #chair -jflory7wrnash 02:04:36 Current chairs: -jflory7wrnash MarkDude MarkDuke award3535 jflory7 jflory7wrnash juggler wrnash 02:04:39 #chair kk4ewt 02:04:39 Current chairs: -jflory7wrnash MarkDude MarkDuke award3535 jflory7 jflory7wrnash juggler kk4ewt wrnash 02:04:49 well guess that directive doesn't work :) 02:05:28 #info Other sub-projects in Fedora are also publishing their Year in Reviews -- this is a good way to get an idea of what's going on in the Project. Read some of the following posts to get a feel of what's going on inside of Fedora this past year and in 2016. 02:05:45 #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/tag/year-in-review-2015/ 02:05:56 #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/commops-year-in-review/ 02:06:04 #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/marketing-year-in-review/ 02:06:33 #info More to come soon. 02:07:00 That's all I have. 02:07:11 any other announcements 02:07:11 Thanks jflory7 02:07:34 No problem. 02:07:34 #topic === Tickets === 02:07:41 Submitted my blog draft for SCaLE 14x. 02:07:51 Should be releasing this Monday... 02:07:52 #link https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9 02:08:02 juggler++ 02:08:06 juggler can you post the link 02:08:24 hang on while i cut/paste 02:08:35 .hello corey84 02:08:36 linuxmodder: corey84 'Corey Sheldon' 02:08:37 Oh, and there is one more big announcement I forgot! 02:08:42 #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/wp-admin/post.php?post=868 02:08:48 Not sure if that is live yet 02:08:49 #chair linuxmodder 02:08:49 Current chairs: -jflory7wrnash MarkDude MarkDuke award3535 jflory7 jflory7wrnash juggler kk4ewt linuxmodder wrnash 02:09:02 juggler: Not yet, but if someone logs into the CommBlog, they should be able to see it. 02:09:20 ah 02:09:37 tell us about your announcement...is it the Friday announcement you mentioned earlier? 02:09:37 #info One last late announcement: tomorrow, a big announcement is coming on the Community Blog about the annual Fedora contributor conference, Flock 2016! Watch communityblog.fedoraproject.org for more info about the dates and location this year. 02:09:43 juggler: It is :) 02:09:51 excellent 02:10:03 juggler is apparently still penning on it :) 02:10:08 per the dashboard 02:10:11 .famnaticket 119 02:10:12 award3535: #119 (OSCON 2016 booth) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/119 02:10:30 linuxmodder ... hmm..I hit the submit button. lemme log out and see if that fixes things... 02:10:32 ok back on track, 02:10:42 * jflory7 nods 02:10:43 lets look at the ticket 02:11:05 linuxmodder.. just logged out. what does it say now? 02:11:34 my feelings on this ticket is we should give the TX ambassadors a shot at this one 02:11:40 OSCON, cost is now $7500 02:11:51 award3535: I was thinking so too 02:12:12 Is Ubuntu/Canonical gonna be there? And if so, are they there in an easier fashion? 02:12:18 * jflory7 checked the dates and he wouldn't be able to attend unfortunately 02:12:35 easier fashion? 02:12:40 MarkDude: I would imagine they would have a presence, at the least 02:12:44 * juggler checked and hasn't seen a proposal page yet for OSCON 2016..? 02:12:47 * MarkDude is going to OSCON, but at some poin the cost for booth vs us having actual FEdorans there comes into play 02:12:49 ruth has already been looking at the PO process 02:13:25 we have been at oscon before (portland i beleive) 02:13:37 OSCON is always a thing. One year I got our and Ubuntu's booth, lacfieor paid for them to ship media up (for Ubntu) 02:13:53 * MarkDude has gone for like 8 of last 10 years 02:13:55 We go 02:14:13 Looks like this is the first year it is in Texas too. 02:14:15 We can work with OSCON. Reach out to Tim 02:14:19 that is why we need to offer it up to the TX ambassadors 02:14:32 +1 for approving the event for our TX Ambassadors 02:14:40 Sure, in addition to Fedorans having gone for half a decade 02:14:45 +1 02:14:49 masta and danofsaTX is in the area 02:14:52 +1 02:14:52 Just sayin' continuity 02:15:15 I'm in the area also. I will need to check my schedule 02:15:16 now if the TX ambassadors do not want to take this on, I will 02:15:44 This is prime FOSS event 02:15:46 +1 for tx ambass priority from me 02:15:50 I should know if I can do it soon 02:15:57 * MarkDude is willing to help in any way possible, plans on going 02:16:20 we also have maxamillion in the area as well 02:16:20 TX should take lead of course, Im willing to intro, and get ball rolling if need be 02:16:39 We should definitely reach out to him and see if he already plans on going too 02:16:39 likewise, I can volunteer for it and possibly speak there informally or formally 02:16:47 I can help out 02:17:00 We can get a lightning spot or two, but speaking slots are full 02:17:01 who would be the event owner for OSCON2016? 02:17:35 we do have some time on this, we also need to get a event wiki started as well 02:18:12 So it sounds like an approval for beginning the process and we definitely want to make this happen 02:18:23 any native TX designees for event owner? :) 02:18:54 masta, danofsatx and wrnash 02:19:29 Unless we get a lead tonight, I can do it and hand off to person. We always wait til last minute on OSCON 02:19:30 might anyone like to be the prime? 02:19:48 And this is why we wait til last minute :D 02:19:58 MarkDude, if no one else tonight lets let award3535 take it 02:20:07 MarkDude please go ahead and start the wiki 02:20:14 * MarkDude is in Cali, does OSCON when it was in Portland and even San Jose 02:20:14 nm 02:20:15 I will let you know next week if I can be prime. 02:20:26 wrnash++ 02:20:38 Will do, and let TX know they can have help, its not like we will leave them on their own 02:20:39 I'm not at a place I can check my schedule 02:21:00 kk4ewt masta is closest to the event 02:21:39 * MarkDude will start wiki, copypasta earlier, and go from there. award3535 will get someone more local, he has the skillz 02:22:31 +1 for beginning the process and checking in next week with others 02:22:37 $7500 is big chunk of money, but Fedora Next will be seen by many for the 1st time there 02:22:54 Hi lord_drachenblut! 02:23:00 hey lord_d! 02:23:04 #chair lord_drachenblut 02:23:04 Current chairs: -jflory7wrnash MarkDude MarkDuke award3535 jflory7 jflory7wrnash juggler kk4ewt linuxmodder lord_drachenblut wrnash 02:23:09 Evening everyone. Sorry I'm late. Just waking up 02:23:10 Lord D \o 02:23:22 no prob...glad you're here 02:23:23 Yo markDude 02:23:38 Sorting OSCON in TX, 02:23:49 Awesome 02:23:50 Have not done Scale yet I think 02:23:59 Awesome 02:24:09 hi everyone, I am alick, studing in College Station, TX now. 02:24:17 welcome alick 02:24:21 * MarkDude +1 what jflory7 and hopes award3535 finds another 02:24:46 Hi alick! 02:24:57 alick, you wanna be a helper person for event? You have any wiki skills? 02:25:00 glad to know OSCON will be in TX. But mid May... I might have to rearrange my summer plan to attend it, hmm 02:25:14 juggler: jflory7 hi thx 02:25:15 o/ 02:25:19 hey alick 02:25:22 from what I hear alick, it is worth it. :) 02:25:37 I think we can move onto next ticket for now, seems like we'll be able to decide more once we know the status of our Texas Ambassadors next week, and MarkDude can get rolling on the wiki. 02:25:37 ok i think we can continue on to the next ticket, I will also contact ruth and find out what we are doing 02:25:42 +1 award3535 02:25:53 #chair cydrobolt 02:25:53 Current chairs: -jflory7wrnash MarkDude MarkDuke award3535 cydrobolt jflory7 jflory7wrnash juggler kk4ewt linuxmodder lord_drachenblut wrnash 02:25:59 +1 02:26:04 MarkDude: I've edited quite a few wiki pages. Only a bit busy these days. 02:26:05 +1 award3535 02:26:10 * linuxmodder nods 02:26:12 .famnaticket 123 02:26:13 award3535: #123 (Reviving the Campus Ambassador program) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/123 02:26:24 did we skip 120? 02:26:39 No problem, welcome, feel free to PM if you have questions you may not want to ask in meeting :) 02:26:55 linuxmodder saw you did some work on this already 02:27:11 award3535, had a article that is still in the works yes 02:28:07 whoever started the wiki in my absence did nice work thanks 02:28:17 * MarkDude thinks Campus has many options, but in many ways it has some possiblity for being the magic thing we need now: glue 02:28:32 agree MarkDude 02:28:59 Glue that holds things together. It lowers the bar for entry, but with people willng to teach/mentoring it keeps Fedora bar high 02:29:00 +1 02:29:14 So, there was a discussion we had about this before-- 02:29:21 but the key is involvement as well 02:29:24 I think we need to try to get instructors hooked into this 02:29:26 entry low expectations high is great plan imo 02:29:33 People are concerned it may thin our brand. But by having folks like nb and people on campus, we have feedbback loop 02:29:42 (Firstly, there is a channel for Campus Ambassadors specifically, feel free to join #fedora-campusamb) 02:30:05 We have buy in from original owners bierte and rrix 02:30:06 A discussion nb, MarkDude, and I had was about how Campus Ambassadors relate to the rest of Ambassadors. 02:30:19 Currently, Campus Ambassadors has a prerequisite of being a regular Ambassador 02:30:37 However, we weren't sure that was the best way to go about it. 02:30:38 if we have no input of new users (younger especially) how can we evolve is what my anser to the thin out arg is 02:30:44 * hardwyrd asking if I'm allowed in here ? 02:31:00 yes its an open meeting 02:31:03 Folks like hardwyrd have been doing FOSS work on campus for years, doing a balance of meeting at school space, and coffe shops, food/fun 02:31:08 hardwyrd, new ambassador right ? 02:31:14 hi all :) 02:31:20 Videos for hardwyrd 02:31:47 Seeing how his experience with ITG can help with this. 02:31:54 linuxmodder: yes :) MarkDude's recruit :D 02:32:12 Fedora magazine was big time draw for mktg, we can avoid that by making more folks to help, IMHO 02:32:35 being an ambass to start campus amb may be much mentors surely should be 02:32:55 I personally think that for Campus Ambassadors to succeed, it should actually be a little bit the other way around. Campus Ambassadors and regular Ambassadors could be seen at the same level. A student could either opt to become a Campus Ambassador or become a regular Ambassador. Campus Ambassadors would work on tasks and events *specific* to education, such as organizing local hackathons / install parties and also try to attend events relating 02:32:55 to Fedora but with a specific spin on education. For example, they could possibly go with their school. 02:33:06 thinking a 3-9 month involvement requires reg amba for contining tho 02:33:29 But to go to events, for example, like OSCON, that would require being a regular Ambassador as it would be less of an education-focused task and more on Fedora as a whole. 02:33:38 * MarkDude is using ITG as model for redoing BAMF effforts, his methods can be done easier. One of his deliverables is HOW they do it in PH 02:33:44 There would also be an easy track for a Campus Ambassador to become a full Ambassador too. 02:33:53 as it stands at the moment if someone wants to be an ambassador they can and skip Campus Ambassadors 02:34:04 specifiaclly soas jflory7 ? or just education period so like robotics and design 02:34:25 i think Fedora Campus Ambassadors are similar to Google Student Ambassadors (GSA) 02:34:31 But ideally, the entire point is for Campus Ambassadors to be a lower bar of entry than regular Ambassadors, but still maintain the high degree of quality and professionalism being an Ambassador demands. 02:34:36 i think exactly same way 02:35:08 kk4ewt: Not quite, the current way it works is Ambassadors is a required pre-requisite to become a Campus Ambassador, or at least in FAS 02:35:35 linuxmodder: I mean general education, can be engineering / robotics / design / etc. 02:35:44 jflory7, initially that seems a non starting block 02:36:03 linuxmodder: Yeah, it can easily be changed, all that has to be done is change a few settings. 02:36:10 jflory7, +1 02:36:40 more like a probie ambass for first few months like the current full ambass vetting and if doing events a sponsor should have to vouch for them the way I see it working 02:36:44 Anyways, that's all I have to say about this for now. I think we should start thinking of the infrastructural approach to how we would want to revive the program. 02:36:53 * jflory7 will add his thoughts to the ticket after the meeting. 02:37:09 me same 02:37:11 #action jflory7 Add thoughts and ideas about Campus Ambassador infrastructure to the ticket after the meeting 02:37:20 And to avoid the time drain that magazine was for mktg 02:37:24 #unchair -jflory7wrnash jflory7wrnash MarkDuke 02:37:24 Current chairs: MarkDude award3535 cydrobolt jflory7 juggler kk4ewt linuxmodder lord_drachenblut wrnash 02:37:42 juggler: Figured it out :) 02:37:48 yay 02:37:56 Any obligations we make be additons not taking away for Ambadassadors. eof 02:38:21 +1 MarkDude 02:38:33 moving on 02:38:34 +1 02:38:38 .famnaticket 131 02:38:39 award3535: #131 (BrickHack 2016) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/131 02:39:20 Looks cool, makes me want to think of a reason Fedora should send me (but cant.) 02:39:44 This is my ticket too. I was hoping to propose a new event to FAmNA with this. 02:40:11 jflory7 do you have any more information on the event such as how many sponsors can attend, usually there is a limit 02:40:39 I'm game for attending myself 02:40:40 award3535: I've asked an organizer that I know and there is definitely allowed to be more sponsors. 02:40:56 So if we choose to sponsor, we could definitely have a spot 02:40:58 Also-- 02:41:27 so how many ambassadors are allowed to attend 02:41:38 To actually have a table and other things requires a sponsorship of greater than $3k. However, I was able to talk down the sponsorship cost to $1.2k for a table, branding on merchandise, and we are allowed to bring mentors. 02:41:42 * MarkDude thinks a local person helping jflory7 would be of great use. Regional person 02:42:08 I can find that out. As far as I know, there is no immediate limit, but I would say... maybe seven max? I walked around the area it will be hosted today, and it's a good, decent size. 02:42:14 I would also like to have a few extra hands. :) 02:42:36 There is also a chance decauseAirplanes will be able to attend this as well. He was already planning on attending prior to this ticket, but his attendance is not yet confirmed or definite. 02:43:38 award3535: I just got confirmation that there would be no limit for the number we can bring 02:43:47 count me in jflory7 02:43:53 this event also is on the new budget as well 02:44:01 FY17 02:44:16 Or... maybe near definite confirmation. The organizer I know doesn't think there is a limit but he is checking with the sponsor team now for me. 02:44:28 linuxmodder: Would love to have some more hands up here! :) 02:44:33 * MarkDude is willing to bet they know of decauseAirplanes see if that sweetens it up for them (with his blessing of course.) 02:44:46 MarkDude: They definitely know about him. 02:45:00 In fact, I think they were planning on seeing if he could specifically be a mentor, but I don't think they've contacted him 02:45:16 If he happens to already be going, it would be great to have him there as a mentor representing Fedora. 02:45:18 Oh, also!! 02:45:27 +1 for putting effort into this event. And some other names might be interested. Rock it jflory7 get some more folks 02:45:38 I also was able to confirm that for the $1.2k price, we could be the sponsors of the "open source" category at the event. 02:45:49 So we would have a direct correlation to the open source hacking at the event. 02:45:53 what about travel 02:46:06 (Confirmed that there is no limit on number of people we can bring.) 02:46:29 award3535: The Rochester International Airport (ROC) is in the same city as the event. About a 15 minute drive from airport to the campus. 02:46:53 What other info do we need to have for travel? I assume nearby hotels? I can look up hotels and their rates for the week of the event and add it to the wiki. 02:47:12 yes, is anyone attending out of area 02:47:24 I am a local, so it's no cost for me to travel 02:47:36 Asuming we can get locals, but award3535 wants us to figure travel ideas. This event seems worth sending folks relevant and in region. And maybe some Daddy Shadowman love to. 02:47:55 I am not aware of any other locals except for possibly decauseAirplanes, but he is not confirmed 02:48:26 mattdm is close a few hours drive away 02:48:27 * MarkDude assumes we could cover $500 for local stuff, trains etc to get idea. decauseAirplanes may have other funding 02:48:31 I know a friend on campus so while out of area lodging on mine would be nominal 02:49:13 Budget would be more, but by assuming at least $500 (with getting specific approvals) you can gauge who can go, and may be able to get more 02:49:28 Oh yeah, I forgot mattdm might be in the area... it would be great to see if this was an event he would be willing or able to go to! 02:49:30 hi all...gotta run to my 7p meeting. My ticket # is 392 for a reimbursement request. have a good evening all. I do hope you enjoy my SCaLE 14x report when that shows up on the blog :) 02:49:33 With these local folks, we may be loking at rooms and gas 02:49:46 My expenses would be about same as Fosscon (less than $75) 02:49:49 juggler: Have a good evening, looking forward to seeing the report published on Monday!! 02:49:52 juggler++ 02:50:12 be well all! 02:50:13 Rock on juggler 02:50:48 I think we should table this one more week to see if any one else would like to attend and get the proper funding moving 02:51:10 It would be great to have a list of others who might want to attend. 02:51:17 Should they add their info to the wiki? 02:51:31 (assuming they are willing + interested in going) 02:51:35 Yep, I can wiki advice after meeting 02:51:55 either way on the wiki or emailing for you to update as well 02:52:09 I can send an email to the list 02:52:09 * MarkDude agrees with award3535 +1 for event though, looks fun 02:52:17 jflory7, plan to see me there (will add myself to wiki tonight or tomorrow) 02:52:20 Might be easiest for some who couldn't make it to the meeting tonight 02:52:31 linuxmodder: Fantastic, sounds great!! 02:52:38 ok moving on... 02:52:40 #topic == Open Floor === 02:52:41 Do email, and we got this as easier folow up next wek 02:52:52 jflory7, after meeting maybe set up some MAGIC tour stuff then 02:52:52 #action jflory7 Send announcement to mailing list about BrickHack 2016 02:53:06 linuxmodder: Might be able to see what I can do :) 02:54:52 quiet for Open floor ? that is odd 02:54:57 As for Open Floor, I have nothing else. I will make sure to get on the details for BrickHack 02:54:59 Reminders, Fedora Magazine is aweome, write for it, its easy 02:55:10 MarkDude: And writing for the CommBlog too. ;) 02:55:22 The metric are on rise, we have real numbers, real eyeballs 02:55:33 +1 Community Ops 02:55:52 Anyways, unless someone has something else to bring up, I motion to close the meeting 02:56:00 Also, be creative folks, what sorta ways can we promote Fedora, to under 30s 02:56:05 nothing from me 02:56:08 maybe let me do some more introduction? 02:56:11 Not my beard runs Linux crowd 02:56:16 alick: Sure! Now is a good time. :) 02:56:23 :) 02:56:31 alick, you are a newcomer? 02:56:32 .fasinfo alick 02:56:33 alick: User: alick, Name: None, email: alick9188@gmail.com, Creation: 2010-02-18, IRC Nick: None, Timezone: None, Locale: None, GPG key ID: None, Status: active 02:56:36 alick: Approved Groups: docs docs-writers fedorabugs docs-publishers cla_fedora cla_done cvsl10n cla_fpca ambassadors 02:56:43 * MarkDude has one of those beards at times. 02:56:45 I am a newcomer to US, yes... 02:57:12 not a newcomer to Fedora. I was in APAC. 02:57:22 And you write. jflory7 grab him for Magazine or blog, or I'll try to get him in Campus Ambassadors :D 02:57:22 alick++ Welcome to FAmNA! 02:57:22 jflory7: Karma for alick changed to 1 (for the f23 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 02:57:26 welcome to the NA continent 02:57:42 Just came to US fall 2015 for phd study. 02:57:52 on what subject? 02:58:04 Haven't found a linux group yet in A&M 02:58:06 alick: Excellent, what university are you at? Texas A&M, I gather, seeing you're in College Station? 02:58:10 Beat me to it :) 02:58:12 will try to start one if necessary. 02:58:15 Alright... I'm off for the evening. Catch you all soon 02:58:15 Texas A&M ? 02:58:20 good night, lord_drachenblut! 02:58:21 alick, you're a badass, I thought your name sounds familar 02:58:34 linuxmodder: ECE, basically networking stuff. 02:58:41 #chair alick 02:58:41 Current chairs: MarkDude alick award3535 cydrobolt jflory7 juggler kk4ewt linuxmodder lord_drachenblut wrnash 02:58:51 Even though it's the end. :P 02:58:52 alick is a doer of things, lots and lots of them https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Alick 02:59:05 chat up danofsatx alick about a local lug 02:59:11 yes Texas A&M 02:59:15 Ask him about events, we have someone that has been part of some cool stuff. 02:59:17 Well, we're glad to have you in the region, alick! :) 02:59:18 Eof. 03:00:06 ok folks we are about done, welcome alick you are more than welcome to help out with FAMNA 03:00:18 Anyone familiar with super tux kart? 03:00:24 +1 to close 03:00:33 jsandys: Familiar about it, but never played it. 03:00:34 indeed 03:00:36 I want to run a tourny at lfnw. 03:00:40 +1 to close 03:01:00 +1 to close 03:01:02 +1 close 03:01:08 +1 close 03:01:09 #endmeeting