01:00:05 #startmeeting FAmNA 01:00:05 Meeting started Fri Oct 28 01:00:05 2016 UTC. The chair is award3535. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:00:05 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 01:00:05 The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 01:00:10 #meetingname FAmNA 01:00:10 The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 01:00:24 #topic === FAmNA Roll Call === 01:00:25 mikedep333-work: Sounds like an exciting job. Awesome! 01:00:27 .hello jflory7 01:00:28 jflory7: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' 01:00:38 #chair reher jflory7 mikedep333 01:00:38 Current chairs: award3535 jflory7 mikedep333 reher 01:00:43 .hello jsandys 01:00:44 jsandys: jsandys 'Jeff Sandys' 01:00:55 #chair jsandys 01:00:55 Current chairs: award3535 jflory7 jsandys mikedep333 reher 01:01:20 jsandys, I believe the bill in question was paid 01:01:26 jflory7, yeah, the scientists use a supercomputer to study climate change 01:01:30 anyway 01:01:50 hi 01:01:59 hey there 01:02:06 #chair cydrobolt 01:02:06 Current chairs: award3535 cydrobolt jflory7 jsandys mikedep333 reher 01:02:10 .hello dmossor 01:02:11 danofsatx: dmossor 'Dan Mossor' 01:02:11 OK, I will check with Bill Wright (LFNW) 01:02:20 mikedep333++ 01:02:20 jflory7: Karma for mikedep333 changed to 1 (for the f24 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 01:02:34 :) 01:02:52 jsandys, there was some emails that floated back and forth from me and jzb 01:03:06 and from what I understand it is taken care of 01:03:21 #chair danofsatx 01:03:21 Current chairs: award3535 cydrobolt danofsatx jflory7 jsandys mikedep333 reher 01:03:37 #topic === Announcements === 01:03:52 jflory7 i know you have announcements 01:03:55 Yep! 01:04:01 #info === "Fedora 25 supplemental wallpapers" === 01:04:03 #link https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-25-supplemental-wallpapers/ 01:04:13 #info The Fedora 25 Supplemental Wallpapers were selected this week. You can see what will be included in the upcoming release of Fedora 25 in this post. 01:04:26 #info === "Fedora at Ohio Linuxfest 2016" === 01:04:30 #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-ohio-linuxfest-2016/ 01:04:53 #info We recently attended Ohio Linuxfest 2016. Read more about the event in Southern_Gentlem / kk4ewt's event report on the Community Blog! 01:05:14 #info === "Raspberry Pi (2 and 3) support in Fedora 25 Beta!" === 01:05:18 #link https://fedoramagazine.org/raspberry-pi-support-fedora-25-beta/ 01:05:51 #info Fedora 25 will support Raspberry Pis (2 and 3). This is great news for hobbyists and definitely something to be aware of for the coming Fedora release! 01:06:09 #info === Don't forget release party plans! === 01:06:11 I'm trying to set up a Pi2 for SeaGL 01:06:15 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/ReleaseEvents 01:06:20 #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/tag/release-party/ 01:06:41 #info Fedora 25 is currently slated for November 15. Don't forget to keep any planning or organizing in mind for Fedora 25 in coming weeks if you would like to organize something locally. Badges included! 01:06:45 eof 01:06:53 jsandys++ Awesome! That would be a cool thing to have. 01:07:51 jflory7 why the releaseevents link 01:08:06 nevermind.... 01:08:28 anything else before we move on.... 01:08:41 * jflory7 is good 01:09:04 #topic === Tickets === 01:09:15 #link https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9 01:09:29 .famnaticket 154 01:09:31 award3535: #154 (FAmNA Budget sheet) – FAmNA Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/154 01:09:47 latest sheet updated for end of month 01:10:27 award3535++ 01:10:35 * jflory7 goes to take a quick lookover 01:12:04 What are the 3 dollar columns? 01:12:16 award3535: Just double-checking, allocated budget for the FY was $25,374, and we've currently spent / allocated $22,090, right? 01:13:03 jflory7 so far yes but lets not forget we need to replace banners for events and get some new table cloths as well 01:13:12 The third column on the right was "adjusted", if I remembered correctly, but it's sort of confusing for me too 01:13:16 Right. 01:13:52 That leaves us with $3284 for new banners and the cloth, which I imagine will likely dip into that a fair bit... 01:13:55 jsandys, I dont like the sheet and I will change it for next year, they have some sort of margin that they like to use for expenses 01:15:00 jflory7 if you look at the very bottom of the sheet you will see what we have allocated and what we have spent so far 01:15:02 I assume the left column is budget, and one of the columns should be actuals 01:15:03 award3535: Not sure if you saw my tickets for BrickHack and WiCHacks in February. I'm trying to negotiate a partnership with Red Hat and possibly other groups to spread the cost, but I am waiting for feedback right now 01:15:04 * jflory7 nods 01:15:56 jsandys: Middle-column looks like actuals 01:16:13 I see now, you're right, jsandys 01:16:22 And award3535 01:16:29 Okay, so a little bit more, but not by too much 01:16:30 jflory7 yes, and we may have some funds for them depending on what actual costs 01:17:30 Awesome. I'm hoping to get the BrickHack sponsorship cost lower than last year, and hopefully a no-sponsorship cost for WiCHacks... still doing research but once I start hearing back, I will update the tickets accordingly 01:17:33 SeaGL middle column says $1,780, should be $500 actual so far 01:18:06 jsandys jflory7 the middle colom has a formula that adjusts it for a margin difference 01:19:26 since there is no actual cost placed in the actual colom it screws up the center colom. Next year that colom is gone. We only need the approved amount and the actual expenses 01:19:49 Good 01:20:15 +1 to that, will make it easier to read. 01:20:20 jsandys I left the actual amount out until we get your final total as long as you dont exceed the approved amount 01:20:48 hey 01:20:55 * nb forgot to file ticket but i have something 01:21:09 OK, has SeaGL been paid the $500 01:21:19 for the table 01:21:48 jsandys, jflory7 the sheet was a Remy sheet and that is what he liked showed accounting terms of the center margin as the target 01:22:06 jsandys the booth for SeaGL has been paid! 01:22:16 Great! 01:22:19 I paid it 01:22:35 in September that is.... 01:22:51 nb is this a pitch for media production 01:23:03 yes 01:23:05 #chair nb 01:23:05 Current chairs: award3535 cydrobolt danofsatx jflory7 jsandys mikedep333 nb reher 01:23:15 .famnaticket 158 01:23:17 nb: #158 (Fedora 25 media) – FAmNA Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/158 01:23:25 requesting approval for $2,048.80 for 2,500 DVD media (including shipping) 01:23:35 same price as f24 01:23:49 f24 cost us 1900 01:24:07 award3535, nope 01:24:11 award3535, 1900 + shipping 01:24:52 award3535, I'll email you the final invoice for f24, i thought I already had 01:24:53 I did not see the shipping cost so I need to adjust the sheet..... that is exactly why I need the invoice 01:25:10 Given how less common DVD drives are becoming, should we really be buying as many DVDs as last year? 01:25:12 award3535, sent 01:25:19 mikedep333-work, yes, we are still giving out plenty 01:25:26 OK 01:25:28 mikedep333-work, although 2,500 is a lot less than we used to give out 01:25:31 nb I never got the final piece 01:25:38 we used to order significantly more media 01:25:44 award3535, I just sent you the final invoice for f24 01:25:55 $2,048.80 01:26:20 shit, i should not have attached the pdf quote to the famna ticket, it has our addresses in it 01:26:25 I didn't realize that 01:27:21 * nb requests approval for 2,500 DVDs for Fedora 25 at a total cost of $2,048.80 01:27:27 unless people have more discussion? 01:28:05 all 64bit workstation flavor? 01:28:13 +1 01:28:14 jsandys, yes 01:28:17 +1 01:28:19 +1 01:28:21 +1 01:29:02 jflory7, Southern_Gentlem kk4ewt ping 01:29:31 I adjusted the budget sheet 01:29:59 +1, although it might be a good idea to cut back even a smaller amount in the future 01:30:26 jflory7 we used to order 5k everytime so we have cut back 01:31:06 and we have switched suppliers to save 30-50% of the price 01:31:12 award3535, media will be in Q4 01:31:19 award3535, media will be in Q3, sorry, unless we slip a lot 01:31:31 ;) 01:31:35 I guess it depends on the event, but some places I struggle to give them out. People have laughed at me when I offer the DVDs or turned them down because they don't have the drives. I know this isn't anything new and I don't want to beat a dead horse. 01:31:52 I also realize that most of my events in the past year are at a different type of place than a traditional Linux conference too 01:31:55 #agreed nb to order 2.5K media F25 01:32:41 I just wonder if for F25, we could get away with an even smaller order... just my 2¢ 01:32:43 nb I will move it to Q3, since last year it was later in Q4 01:32:48 jflory7, I don't think so. 01:32:52 Errr, F26, I guess 01:32:56 I am -1 to reducing the media order, at least for f24 01:33:01 s/f24/f25/ 01:33:08 jflory7, we will evaluate how much f25 we give out 01:33:12 Sorry, my comment just now was for F26 01:33:15 oh ok 01:33:29 nb: Yeah, I think we should pay extra close attention to distribution of the DVDs this round 01:34:21 award3535, oh, I added $100 to our stamps.com account 01:34:29 * jflory7 thinks we could probably save money by ordering fewer and still have the same impact, just putting some strategy behind how many discs we send to what events 01:34:32 does that go to your cc or ruth's? I think it still goes to ruth's 01:36:41 nb that is a good question my thoughts its on ruths 01:37:08 so i'm not sure if it'll end up getting charged to our budget or to ruth's..... I sent her the receipt and never heard anything back 01:38:30 nb complete a reimbursement ticket and flag me, please ensure receipt is attached 01:39:09 award3535, there is nothing to reimburse? It was charged directly to her 01:39:15 or do you mean just so you can track it? 01:40:04 it should go to here, but if she says it belongs to Fedora I will add it, send me the receipt just in case 01:40:17 oh ok 01:40:58 jflory7, to be truthful i think we have found our magic # for the media 01:42:21 moving to open floor 01:42:23 #topic == Open Floor === 01:42:37 * jflory7 shrugs 01:42:41 award3535: I do have one thing to share 01:43:02 I will submit the order for 15 Fedora Loves Python tee-shirts. The invoice amount will be about $280 ($250 budgeted) 01:43:03 go 01:43:31 jsandys just make sure I get all receipts 01:43:36 5 of these shirts are to satisify my promise to some LFNW attendees listed in https://fedorahosted.org/famnarequests/ticket/410 01:44:08 I also ordered 200 one inch buttons with the Fedora Loves Python logo for $49. 01:44:23 I will eat the cost on this if not approved. 01:44:34 A few days ago, the developer of the pagure-importer tool found the bug that was blocking me from looking further into the migration from Trac to Pagure. I'm playing around with the migration now, and I should have a definite proposal or plan ready to share by next week. 01:45:01 Although I haven't had time to play with it yet (just moments ago pushed the raw data from the importer), the first run should be visible here: 01:45:02 https://stg.pagure.io/stg-famna/issues 01:45:10 jsandys, +1 to approve it, although I think we should look into ordering bigger quantities and distriuting them to our shippers to have for different events 01:45:20 award3535, how is the budget looking overall? 01:45:51 jsandys, as long as its under your approved budget we discussed that as event coord detailed to specific needs it was ok 01:46:07 Thanks 01:46:09 * jflory7 likes the idea of promoting the "Fedora <3 Python" campaign 01:46:13 I have something to discuss. 01:46:49 nb with all proposed events we have just over 4K, but we need to replace banners 01:47:06 mikedep333 go 01:47:22 linuxmodder, reached out to me about LISA16. He and mattdm are planning on attending it, and they would like me to join. The event lasts all week, but they only intend to attend (or only need me) from 12/8 through 12/9. 01:47:43 However, I checked the wiki moments ago, and LISA16 isn't listed at all. 01:48:14 I also couldn't find it on the wiki when I looked 01:49:11 mikedep333, LISA is not listed because mattdm is there to represent RH and linuxmodder is local to the area, so there are no costs, thus no event on wiki for Fedora 01:49:14 award3535, and that is accounting for the media that we are ordering as well correct 01:49:24 kk4ewt yes 01:49:25 hmm 01:49:37 linuxmodder is not local. he is like 300 miles away. 01:49:50 award3535, mikedep333-work --- FWIW, mattdm is local to the area :) 01:50:08 yeah, you Red Hatters in the Boston area :) 01:50:22 I am willing to go on my own dime if I have to. 01:50:25 LISA in boston this year, last year in DC 01:50:25 I *think* linuxmodder said he was going to make a wiki page, but I hadn't checked 01:50:38 I can make the wiki page. 01:50:44 #chair mattdm 01:50:44 Current chairs: award3535 cydrobolt danofsatx jflory7 jsandys mattdm mikedep333 nb reher 01:50:48 mikedep333-work awesome. 01:50:59 mattdm: o/ 01:51:04 mattdm, welcome go to see you 01:51:27 However, I would like to know if it is possible to get reimbursed for my travel/lodging, or if it is too late for that. I assume linuxmodder wants to know as well. 01:51:32 RH has a very limited number of conference passes, and I think we can get expo/booth passes no problem 01:52:04 the travel/lodging part is up to ambassadors, of course 01:52:18 understood 01:52:24 mikedep333 that is where those who are going to plan the event need to create and present the expenses 01:52:41 OK 01:52:44 famnarequest have been made for media and the event box 01:52:51 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAMNA_event_owner_guidelines 01:53:07 I generated this link to help with the process 01:53:16 * mattdm can't stay -- just dropped in when I heard my name :) 01:53:16 mikedep333-work, if you do the event page go ahead and do shipping for $200 please 01:53:18 award3535++ 01:53:18 mattdm: Karma for award3535 changed to 6 (for the f24 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 01:53:33 * mattdm waves 01:53:37 mattdm: Good night! 01:53:50 mattdm, good night! 01:54:20 mikedep333 when is LISA 01:54:43 The entire week of 12/4 - 12/9. 01:54:47 mikedep333-work, how much are you asking for? 01:55:05 But again, linuxmodder asked me to only attend 12/8 & 12/9. 01:55:09 just to warn, lodging in boston is not cheap 01:55:31 According to my quick research, my travel costs by amtrak/NJ Transit are $70-$100. 01:55:38 Lodging, I haven't checked yet. 01:56:36 2 can share a room 01:56:51 one second 01:56:54 mikedep333, you have some time, please follow the link above and propose 01:56:56 banners i think will top out at 600 01:56:59 it says $210/night, let me confirm that is for 2 beds 01:57:17 will do, I should have it all done by next week's meeting 01:58:09 yeah, 2 beds for 2 nights is $420 + charges & taxes = $460.69 at the conference venue 01:58:31 perhaps I should look for someplace cheaper? 01:59:22 mikedep333 you have some time..... then throw the pitch at the next meeting..... 01:59:48 OK 02:00:08 ok folks, time to give up the channel, good meeting... 02:00:13 Laura Abbott agreed to help at the SeaGl booth, thanks 02:00:54 see everyone next week.... 02:00:56 #endmeeting