01:59:33 #startmeeting FAmNA 01:59:33 Meeting started Fri Dec 2 01:59:33 2016 UTC. The chair is award3535. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:59:33 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 01:59:33 The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 01:59:35 #meetingname FAmNA 01:59:35 The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 01:59:47 #topic === FAmNA Roll Call === 01:59:54 #chair juggler 01:59:55 Current chairs: award3535 juggler 02:00:00 evening juggler 02:00:05 Perry Rivera 02:00:14 hello award! 02:00:43 .hello jflory7 02:00:44 jflory7: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' 02:00:52 #chair jflory7 02:00:52 Current chairs: award3535 jflory7 juggler 02:01:07 hey jf 02:01:18 evening jflory7 02:01:36 I hope everyones holiday was joyous 02:01:56 yes indeed. yours? 02:02:03 Evening, all! 02:02:25 good and sad, lost two of my friends over the past few weeks 02:02:54 oh my. :\ you have my condolences. 02:03:33 no worries, both unexpected, but moving on....and thank you juggler 02:03:37 Hmm, wonder if jsandys is having connectivity problems. 02:03:44 here 02:03:50 makes you think as you get older 02:03:52 * juggler nods 02:03:57 #chair jsandys 02:03:57 Current chairs: award3535 jflory7 jsandys juggler 02:04:02 I let my laptop battery die 02:04:19 Hey juggler, hey award3535! Same wishes to you. Hope you had a chance to enjoy a day with family. :) 02:04:44 I did 02:05:12 ok moving on 02:05:13 #topic === Announcements === 02:05:30 jflory7 I know you always have something... 02:05:45 big elephant in the room: F25 ;) 02:05:55 yes... 02:06:05 there also is a badge for release parties now 02:06:06 juggler: Home was a little far for me this year, but I held a small celebration with some friends in Rochester as well. 02:06:29 jflory7 saw the pictures.... 02:06:31 award3535: I'm sorry to hear that... that's tough... you have my condolences as well. 02:06:47 yeah looked like a great celebration jf 02:06:54 I'll be visiting the Python group. 02:07:13 We ran f25 on a rpi3 at seagl 02:07:48 .hello jbwillia 02:07:49 kk4ewt: jbwillia 'Ben Williams' 02:07:52 nice 02:08:01 jsandys speaking of the event, I have not seen any reimbursement requests or reports 02:08:06 #chair kk4ewt 02:08:06 Current chairs: award3535 jflory7 jsandys juggler kk4ewt 02:08:20 one of my friends was pretty excited about F25 on rpiv2/3. 02:08:27 jsandys: Evening! 02:08:32 was -> is 02:08:59 I forwarded the invoices to award 02:09:16 what is the protocol 02:09:42 Jsandys i got those, please follow this link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Reimbursements 02:09:52 Oops, I think my IRC client is lagging a bit, just got a lot of lines at once. 02:09:59 Yes, I do have some announcements. One second... 02:10:06 kk4ewt: Evening! 02:10:26 #info === Fedora 25 is here! === 02:10:44 #link https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-25-released/ 02:11:14 F24-20161130 updated live isos are available at http://tinyurl.com/Live-respins2 02:11:15 jsandys I still need formal tickets and attached documents to support tracking and other folks that have eyes on the process 02:11:32 #info On. Nov. 22, the latest version of Fedora, Fedora 25, was released. Read the announcement for more info, and see the Talking Points to know what's new in Fedora to share with people who ask you questions! 02:11:39 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_25_talking_points 02:11:46 kk4ewt...is that F24 or F25? 02:11:52 #info === "Flock Stories 2016, Episode 5: Haïkel Guémar" === 02:11:57 #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/flock-stories-2016-haikel-guemar/ 02:12:02 #info Haïkel Guémar (hguemar / number80) is a long-time Fedora contributor passionate about on-boarding new users into Fedora. Learn more in his interview with Chris Ward as the last episode of the Flock Stories 2016 series! 02:12:05 I had 4 additional shirts made, one for Joe who helped and one for a winner, and 2 XLs 02:12:06 .hello dmossor 02:12:07 danofsatx: dmossor 'Dan Mossor' 02:12:39 I'll follow the reimbursements page 02:12:43 #info === "New! Fedora 25 Release Partygoer badge" === 02:12:46 #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/ambassadors@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/HK3ZMAYSFYFU4JYFDVGU4TGVYYCUOMQV/ 02:13:17 #info New for Fedora 25, if you are organizing a release party, you can share a badge for attendees to claim and add to their account. See more information in the mailing list thread. 02:13:17 #chair danofsatx 02:13:17 Current chairs: award3535 danofsatx jflory7 jsandys juggler kk4ewt 02:13:20 eof 02:13:27 That's all the announcements I have. 02:13:49 anyone else? 02:13:51 Oh, other than a general heads-up that some of the pesky Pagure bugs we noticed should be fixed in the coming week. 02:14:04 Newest version of Pagure should be hitting production very soon 02:14:18 now that is good news! 02:14:27 yeah 02:14:50 what about adding a tag to the subject to fix client filtering rules when update emails are sent? 02:15:43 jsandys, you may want to place the ticket in pagure as well for reimbursements 02:15:43 danofsatx: Not a bad idea – could file a ticket for in Pagure. You should get a response back pretty quickly. :) 02:16:02 * jflory7 also has big news about BrickHack, but will save it for tickets 02:16:39 jflory7 that also should apply for me when someone puts a reimbursement request in that i get an email alerting me 02:17:06 award3535: That we can make sure to have set up! 02:17:22 #topic === Tickets === 02:17:35 https://pagure.io/ambassadors-na/tasks/issue/%s 02:18:09 .famnaticket 157 02:18:13 award3535: Issue #157: BrickHack @ RIT - 2017 Feb. 11-12 - tasks - Pagure - https://pagure.io/ambassadors-na/tasks/issue/157 02:18:22 jflory7 your up 02:18:28 Sure... 02:18:52 I click on award's link and I get: Bad Request 02:18:58 hmm 02:19:20 try this one https://pagure.io/ambassadors-na/tasks/issues?status=all&tags=event 02:19:21 ah the 157 link works 02:19:33 that one works too, thx 02:19:43 So I heard back from the BrickHack organizers earlier. I was trying to negotiate a much smaller sponsorship rate than last year since it comes at the end of the fiscal year and we're also hoping to attend another hackathon in the area in the same month. 02:20:14 how did that go 02:20:15 The three things I called essential for Fedora to sponsor were (1) table / booth in main space, (2) self-introduction at start of event, (3) tech talk during the event. 02:20:21 I asked for a $500 sponsorship 02:20:33 (normally these things were at the $1k or $2k level) 02:21:33 They offered a sponsorship slot at $600 with all of the things I asked for, provided that Fedora has: (1) at least three mentors on-site to help students working on open source projects, (2) Fedora supplies a prize for the open source category, and (3) the open source category is branded as a BrickHack category, with Fedora judging and presenting it. 02:22:09 I thought this was a pretty good offer, provided that I can try to make some connections with friends of Fedora for the prizes. 02:22:36 I have two locals confirmed for the event, Ralph Bean (threebean) and cprofitt. 02:22:47 I'm hoping to get one or two more locals in attendance as well 02:23:16 threebean, never heard of him in the ambassador areas 02:23:27 is he RH 02:23:27 But since I won't be in Rochester at the time of event, it may be helpful for someone nearby to attend the event. I know nb isn't *too* far, so I was wondering if this might be something interesting to him. 02:24:01 nb is far away illionis 02:24:04 award3535: He's not very active as an Ambassador, but he is an active developer in Fedora (and also a Red Hatter). He would be able to attend only for Saturday too. He was with us last year at BrickHack for one day too. 02:24:45 * jflory7 was trying to think of more Ambassadors in New England who may be closer 02:24:49 no worries, but when it comes to paying the bills I have to ask, and more than likely he will use the RH card vice the Fedora card 02:25:15 award3535: I believe that's right. 02:25:17 who helped you and corey at the one in washingotn 02:25:33 cydrodolt? 02:25:37 That was cydrobolt, but he was between places at the time – as far as I know, he is currently in Canada. 02:25:58 Not sure exactly, though - if he's close, cydrobolt would be great to have too. :) 02:26:02 that would explain why we havent heard much from him 02:26:11 who else do we have in boston 02:26:18 mattdm 02:26:22 There's mattdm, but I know he's a busy man 02:26:24 he is in boston 02:26:35 what about remy 02:26:56 I was going to reach out to him, but I'm not sure if he knows yet where he will be in February 02:27:13 He's in Rochester this week, so I will reach out to him. 02:27:43 there is still plenty of time.... and we can make more decisions later as they come up 02:28:01 I can try following up with cydrobolt, mattdm, and decause for now and see where that goes. 02:28:33 But anyways, does the sponsorship cost for the event sound like something we are willing to agree on? 02:29:25 jflory7 it is more reasonable, but what are we looking at for bottom line 02:29:53 yeah, is there a wiki for est costs? 02:30:13 It will ultimately depend on who all we can get to the event. With the current attendee list, we have a $0 lodging cost and maybe $15-20 in gas for the weekend or less. 02:30:29 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RIT_BrickHack/2017 02:30:52 I have not yet updated the wiki page with the latest sponsorship info 02:31:09 And for the prizes, I'm going to try seeing who might be willing to donate a prize on behalf of Fedora 02:31:20 jflory7 what about the prize, we would need to make it reasonable, and if we could get RH to cough up something may cost us minimal 02:31:25 Maybe bexelbie could help us be a little more prepped for it this time around too 02:31:50 award3535: +1. The lesson I learned from last year is that I would like to attend with the prizes in hand instead of shipping them out after the event. 02:32:09 We had a lot of trouble with that (although part of it was that Remy left right when we were starting to ship things) 02:32:46 jflory7 get a little more solid answers and pitch it next week. 02:33:03 we also have LISA 2016 that will cost us about 1k 02:33:09 Cool, sounds good – I will keep reaching out 02:34:13 #action jflory7 Gather more information for BrickHack 2017 total costs (attendees, prizes) and bring more info next week 02:34:29 .famnaticket 162 02:34:30 award3535: Issue #162: LISA 16 - December 8-9 - tasks - Pagure - https://pagure.io/ambassadors-na/tasks/issue/162 02:34:41 Even though it's worth noting that I won't be able to make the meetings for the next two weeks - I am traveling next week and I am in my finals week the week after. So I will post any updates to the ticket 02:35:18 jflory7 that is good, just email me when you get them added and I can pitch for you 02:35:25 Will do! 02:36:10 famnarequest ticket updated with shipping 02:36:26 LISA 2016 ticket has no updates from linuxmodder or mikedep333 02:37:15 and its just around the corner 02:37:18 * jflory7 remembers them talking about in channel sometime in the past week, but can't remember what was said or which day it was 02:38:32 Let me check the trac ticket 02:38:54 would you like me to PM mikedep333 to request a ticket status update? 02:39:31 nb is attanding as well 02:39:36 juggler sure 02:40:04 but as it stands right now, famna has not approved the expense according to the ticket 02:40:38 i thought we had done that 02:40:52 this is exactly why I push to update tickets 02:41:10 will do...be back in 2m 02:41:18 We hadn't ever voted on a final amount 02:41:32 kk4ewt i thought so too, but if someone were to challenge that there is no link or approval date 02:42:55 I remember discussing the room rate and that it was different because the deadline was not met for booking and there was some disparity of taxes and final costs 02:43:32 let me check mote 02:43:53 and nb attending on his uni dime 02:44:07 kk4ewt I do remember that 02:44:17 sent a PM over to 333 02:44:20 but the rest I do not have a clear picture on 02:44:23 well what is the budgeted amount needed 02:44:40 i was thinking we approved 1k 02:44:41 hopefully the ticket gets updated within the next 24h 02:44:56 kk4ewt checking mote now 02:45:08 what is mote? 02:45:19 ? 02:45:19 Where the Meetbot logs live 02:45:22 ah 02:46:12 mote errors when i select FAMNA 02:46:36 hi folks...gotta run soon. I hope to get something more on Pagure for SCALE15x by the next couple of meets. :) 02:46:54 award3535: Try this: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/famna/ 02:47:08 juggler++ Awesome! I forgot, that's just around the corner 02:47:09 jflory7: Karma for juggler changed to 1 (for the f25 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 02:47:42 thanks. :) 02:47:57 i male the motion to approve lisa event for 1K 02:48:07 it does get busy here, but please remind me in case I slip. ;) 02:48:11 good ight all. 02:48:14 make 02:48:54 seconded 02:49:09 +1 02:49:14 +1 02:49:18 +1 02:49:18 +1 02:49:26 agreed $1,000 for Lisa2016 02:49:59 .agreed $1,000 for Lisa2016 budget 02:50:06 #agreed $1,000 for Lisa2016 02:50:51 that solves that issue 02:50:57 ok, I added it a couple of weeks ago as 1k on the budget sheet, although I cannot find it. 02:51:32 moving to open floor 02:51:34 #topic == Open Floor === 02:51:44 I do have one thing.... 02:52:30 I have a couple short items 02:52:43 15 December I will be unavailable, then the following week is too close to christmas I would like to move that next week, 8 December we hold a meeting 02:52:43 http://www.southeastlinuxfest.org/ seems to be borked. Does anyone know the date? 02:53:52 asking the organizer 02:53:54 I just tried the link is down 02:54:00 i think the second weekend 02:54:18 of? 02:54:23 june 02:54:33 k, thanks 02:55:06 award3535: So you're proposing the last meeting of the month for Dec. 8? 02:55:37 +1 02:55:40 15 December I will be unavailable, then the following week is too close to christmas I would like to move that next week, 8 December we hold a meeting, then if someone can chair on the 15th, I move that we break until the 29th of December 02:56:09 +1 to that plan 02:56:25 i think with the holidays we hit next week and start back up in january 5th 02:56:26 If no one can chair on the 15th we move to the 29th and weekly there on 02:56:47 I to am ok with 5 Jan 02:56:56 I will let the group decide 02:57:00 I think with SCaLE in January, a meeting on the 29th will be helpful... I don't have specific dates on SCaLE 02:57:35 But seeing as we're less than two months and don't have a ticket or wiki page, I think that's a little concerning. I'm not sure how long or much it will take to negotiate all of that 02:57:57 the event organizer should have already contacted brian for a PO, January will be too late 02:58:25 It would be helpful to have some sort of update about what's happening with SCaLE because as far as I know, we're all in the dark 02:58:36 Scale is in march 02:58:40 I would hate to wait until January 5 to figure out what we're doing for that 02:58:44 Oh, March...? 02:58:56 LinuxFest NorthWest is May 6th and 7th, 2017. 02:58:57 These are the sponsorship levels: 02:58:57 Title-$4000, 02:58:57 10'-$1500, 02:58:57 5'-$750, 02:58:57 Friday/Saturday Night/Lanyards/Conference Bags-$2000, 02:58:59 Full Page Ad/Room Name-$500 02:59:01 MArch 2-5 2017 02:59:22 Scale is in January 02:59:25 Oh, okay, that's much later than I realized 02:59:31 #link https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/15x/ 02:59:46 That even puts this in FY18... 03:00:03 ok they moved it 03:00:09 Weird, I wonder why they moved it by two months 03:00:59 so, depending on what we get for funds, may able to accomidate the other events 03:01:22 and maybe banners and tableclothes 03:01:27 Cool, that's good to know... 03:01:37 yes, we need those kk4ewt 03:01:52 #info SCaLE 15x is not in January 2017 this year - it is moved to March 2-5, 2017, which also places it in FY18 03:02:21 +1 for banners / tablecloths 03:02:28 This reminds me too– 03:02:37 jflory7 we will have to see what we can spend, depending on the approved budget 03:03:01 Bexelbie told me to hold off UFN for FY18 03:03:18 EMEA was looking at ordering the same thing. Since I was going to Europe in January, there is a chance we could try ordering our things together to save on total costs, and I could bring something with me over to Europe for the EMEA Ambassadors 03:03:31 Err, tablecloths, anyways, not sure about banners 03:04:51 jflory7 if we do that, it takes away from our allotted budget, we are already showing that we can keep costs down but we need to expand and get a few things as well 03:04:51 Maybe we need alternate signage than the pop up banners? 03:05:26 these are things we need to discuss after the first of the year 03:05:29 award3535: Sorry, to clarify, they would pay for theirs, we pay for ours. But it might save to order multiple than just one is what I meant 03:05:42 jflory7 got it... 03:06:37 I would like a 10' table and invite one of the Designers to feature the design spin at LFNW. 03:06:37 before we go, I need to know what we are going to agree on for meetings taking a break after 8 Dec to 29 Dec or 8 Dec to 5 Jan 03:06:38 jsandys, myself we have had a lot of people to comment they like our banners at shows 03:06:51 award3535, +1 03:07:08 I will be unavailable myself for much of December for one reason or another. 03:07:17 Since SCaLE is in March, I see no issue with taking off until Jan. 5 03:07:22 Oops, didn't realize it got so late 03:07:26 I do too, but the metal hardware is bulky and sometimes not need. 03:07:49 +1 for 8dec to 5 jan 03:07:57 +1 03:08:20 +1 03:08:25 kk4ewt already gave a +1 for those dates 03:08:54 danofsatx, vote 03:09:15 +1 03:09:19 #agreed FAmNA meeting on 8 December 2016, next meeting will be on 5 January after the holidays 03:09:26 sorry, was typing in another window... 03:09:26 kk4ewt: Linode rebooted the host and the security upgrade to mysql broke the config file 03:09:26 le sigh 03:09:26 kk4ewt: dates are 2nd weekend in June 03:09:26 9-11 03:09:36 SELF ^^ 03:10:02 I tried the Hawaii desktop on the rpi3 with F25. It is pretty snappy but many apps don't open in it. It uses QTquick and Wayland. 03:10:13 I am working on the 'beefy-connection' kiosk app read the LFNW QR-code badges. Maybe using the rpi3 with Hawaii. 03:10:21 danofsatx, I hope you can attend SELF with us this year 03:10:24 since I'm moving to SC next week, I've already convinced my new employer to let me go to SELF, as well as LinuxCon 03:10:43 jsandys: That sounds like it would be cool. 03:10:45 I'm still working on Flock 03:11:10 danofsatx: Whoa, already out of Florida? 03:11:24 ok we got to give up the channel 03:11:32 Ah, yeah, it is getting late 03:11:43 * jflory7 has nothing else for the meeting 03:11:53 no one else is knocking on the door 03:11:54 I can't seem to make a good spec file to put pure data into COPR. 03:11:54 http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.html 03:11:54 The INSTALL.txt instructions work, I've been running it. 03:11:54 Is someone good at spec files who could help? 03:12:00 motion to close 03:12:10 already there 03:12:16 #endmeeting