01:59:41 #startmeeting FAmNA 01:59:41 Meeting started Fri Feb 10 01:59:41 2017 UTC. The chair is award3535. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:59:41 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 01:59:41 The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 01:59:44 #meetingname FAmNA 01:59:44 The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 01:59:54 #topic === FAmNA Roll Call === 02:00:08 .name lajuggler 02:00:16 o/ 02:00:22 #chair juggler 02:00:22 Current chairs: award3535 juggler 02:00:31 here 02:00:40 hello award, jsandys 02:00:42 #chair jsandys 02:00:42 Current chairs: award3535 jsandys juggler 02:00:58 * kk4ewt 02:01:07 #chair kk4ewt 02:01:07 Current chairs: award3535 jsandys juggler kk4ewt 02:01:16 kk4ewt just tried calling you 02:01:45 in the car 02:01:51 the phone that is 02:01:57 ok 02:02:03 .hello nb 02:02:04 nb: nb 'Nick Bebout' 02:02:09 #chair nb 02:02:09 Current chairs: award3535 jsandys juggler kk4ewt nb 02:02:14 .hello lajuggler 02:02:15 juggler: lajuggler 'Perry Rivera' 02:03:26 Hi all! 02:03:37 #chair reher 02:03:37 Current chairs: award3535 jsandys juggler kk4ewt nb reher 02:03:45 evening everyone 02:03:50 #topic === Announcements === 02:03:55 hi back all 02:04:25 any announcements 02:05:08 none here..just some open discussion later 02:05:15 I just have a small one 02:05:31 go for it award 02:06:00 Look for the Year in review write up once jflory7 and I get done with it, should hit the blog officially in the next few days 02:06:31 hopeful for that. jflory7 may have hit a snag with his laptop... :\ 02:06:46 he's hoping the problem self-corrects 02:07:38 yes I saw that port...... since I am a hardware and security guy, more than likely the CMOS hung either on an update or the system bd/hd is bad 02:07:45 any one else 02:08:17 yeah hopefully it starts up ok... *crossing fingers* 02:08:27 ok moving on 02:08:29 #topic === Tickets === 02:08:46 https://pagure.io/ambassadors-na/tasks/issues 02:09:15 .famnaticket 161 02:09:18 award3535: Issue #161: New Table Cloths for FAmNA - tasks - Pagure - https://pagure.io/ambassadors-na/tasks/issue/161 02:09:56 I got ahold of the original vendor, spoke with him today, he will be getting some quotes to me 02:10:38 I would like to propose a darker background such as a black cloth with fedora blue lettering 02:11:09 we need to decide the colors and quanity 02:11:22 sounds good..it would show dirt a lot less :) 02:11:26 .hello linuxmodder 02:11:27 linuxmodder: linuxmodder 'Corey W Sheldon' 02:11:29 sorry for late arrival 02:11:30 that is before we vote on purchase 02:11:36 #chair linuxmodder 02:11:36 Current chairs: award3535 jsandys juggler kk4ewt linuxmodder nb reher 02:11:43 award3535, GSoC ideas open 02:11:51 do we have an idea what the current qty is for the legacy tablecloths? 02:12:09 juggler, 2 02:12:19 I think there was originally two 02:12:49 historically has that been sufficient for nationwide use? 02:12:59 yes 02:13:00 juggler so far ues 02:13:02 yes 02:13:04 one per event box 02:13:13 untill one got lost 02:13:14 we have three event boxes 02:13:24 aww bummer for the loss. 02:13:37 how much of a pain and cost is it to remake a new one? 02:13:41 so dont lose this one 02:13:42 masta has the third, I talked to him last week 02:13:42 west central and east indeed 02:13:56 event box that is 02:14:09 sent to NB 02:14:21 #chair 02:14:21 Current chairs: award3535 jsandys juggler kk4ewt linuxmodder nb reher 02:14:22 masta 02:14:24 good 02:14:25 * masta sent the central box to nb 02:14:33 #chair masta 02:14:33 Current chairs: award3535 jsandys juggler kk4ewt linuxmodder masta nb reher 02:14:37 evening masta 02:14:42 howdy all 02:14:51 evening back! 02:14:52 masta thank you for shipping it back 02:15:38 I'd like to recommend 2. if a 3rd isn't too expensive, perhaps a 3rd "just in case" 02:15:43 so keep the thought in the back of your head for table cloths 02:16:12 Do we have a estimate for 3 table cloths 02:16:19 think the black background like the last t shirts we had 02:16:24 juggler, if the prices are what i think they will be like 600 each 2 is plenty 02:16:38 wow..yikes! :) 02:16:38 I really don't know if there is a need for a 3rd event box. my event box gets used like once a year 02:16:45 2 sounds good 02:16:46 kk4ewt, I have not got the quote back yet 02:16:52 kk4ewt, yeah, i would tend to agree. 2 02:17:17 or have the third (event box) on standby (officially) 02:17:24 nb, we can use that box as a backup 02:17:28 award3535, yeah 02:17:31 exactly 02:17:40 are the table cloth made of vinyl ? 02:17:42 Black with blue logo? 02:17:58 curious, when we were down a tablecloth, how bad a showstopper was it, if any? 02:18:01 masta no think of a hotel tablecloth 02:18:03 jsandys yes, masta no 02:18:19 juggler, no budget 02:18:35 bummer... they get dirty.. so a vinyl kind woudl be easy no-mess clean 02:18:57 so, I have an update about the keychains & patches --- probably going to be cancelled. mizmo thinks the embroidery does not look professional 02:18:58 yeah, but vinyl feels weird over a long day 02:18:59 masta that is why I like the black base 02:19:05 Do you need a motion? 02:19:10 which, it's not as good as I would like, but i thought it was acceptable 02:19:16 No to vinyl. 02:19:23 Yes to cloth 02:19:25 Yes to 2 02:19:26 * nb thinks we need cloth 02:19:31 hey nb 02:19:46 oh wow... a vote on cloth vs vinyl.. haha 02:19:50 yes, I will update everyone once I receive the quote and images 02:20:03 vinyl is best for records ;) lol 02:20:10 each event can go to the dollar store and get $1 vinyal table cover if they are going to eat at the table 02:20:41 nb, do we need to officially drop the embroidered swag ticket 02:21:12 here's another question...do we retire the legacy tablecloths or use them until they are threadbare? 02:21:32 award3535, it's not 100% sure yet, but they are going to try to see if they can redigitize the logo to make it look better but they don't think they can 02:21:41 juggler, we only have 1 i think, right? 02:21:48 we could send it for me to put in the central/backup event box 02:21:50 juggler we can ship them to nb for the back up box 02:21:55 juggler, i am going to take it and get dry cleaned and send it to nb for the central box 02:21:59 nb I think we have 2 total, based on the convo history 02:22:10 award sounds good 02:22:30 kk4ewt excellent 02:22:49 juggler, we had 2, one was lost somewhere on the west coast, so now we are getting 2 02:22:53 * nb moves we reimburse kk4ewt for drycleaning expense 02:23:12 Once I hear from the vendor again which should be in the next couple of days I will get an email out 02:23:18 nb++ 02:23:18 juggler: Karma for nb changed to 7 (for the f25 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 02:23:30 er didn't mean to do that... sorry! 02:23:50 nb, that would include me as well since I tried to get it cleaned 02:24:04 award3535, oh ok 02:24:12 * nb moves we reimburse kk4ewt AND award3535 for drycleaning 02:24:26 +1 02:24:27 second 02:24:33 * masta +1 02:24:34 +1 for kk4ewt 02:24:35 +1 02:24:38 +1 02:25:05 #agreed reimbursement for drycleaning costs for Fedora table cloths 02:25:22 kk4ewt do you have any receipts for the dry cleaning? 02:25:51 I will need a copy of that to go with the credit card statement 02:26:16 i have done it yet 02:26:24 not 02:26:46 kk4ewt no worries just keep a copy and get it to me... 02:26:51 ok lets move on 02:26:56 .famnaticket 164 02:26:57 award3535: Issue #164: Event Box Request - tasks - Pagure - https://pagure.io/ambassadors-na/tasks/issue/164 02:27:24 juggler is this ticket still needed for meeting or can I move it to open 02:27:41 probably open 02:27:44 168 please 02:28:05 .famnaticket 168 02:28:06 award3535: Issue #168: Vertical Banners - tasks - Pagure - https://pagure.io/ambassadors-na/tasks/issue/168 02:28:11 kk4ewt go 02:29:30 ok i got the resized graphics from mizmo today and i then contacted the vender for a quote as instructed, i got an email back that i was suppose to get a quote by 330 today but it never showed so hopefully first thing in the morning we shaould have a quote 02:30:02 the total for both banners should be around $700 (658+shipping) 02:30:18 kk4ewt thank you, but I will be standing by to call and pay when the vendor is ready 02:30:22 when i get the quote i will forward it to award3535 so he can get them ordered 02:30:47 did we already vote on it?\ 02:30:58 yes 02:30:58 nb, yes 02:31:01 ok good 02:31:24 I will email out when I get them paid for and ordered 02:32:07 will SCaLE be using the new banners or legacy banners? guessing legacy right? 02:32:21 juggler, new 02:32:23 juggler, banners are OOC 02:32:28 legacy that is 02:32:34 OOC ? 02:32:42 old banner are borked 02:32:43 out of commission 02:32:48 OOC 02:32:54 ah 02:33:00 usable in dire emergency 02:33:03 hey there 02:33:03 got it 02:33:12 cydrobolt, long time 02:33:13 cydrobolt!! 02:33:17 yeah :) 02:33:19 #chair cydrobolt 02:33:19 Current chairs: award3535 cydrobolt jsandys juggler kk4ewt linuxmodder masta nb reher 02:33:23 been busy with classes recently 02:34:05 hopefully the new banners are manufactured and shipped to us before the event. otherwise, I guess we set up a popup dryboard? :) 02:34:14 ok moving to open floor 02:34:16 #topic == Open Floor === 02:34:26 I have a few q's 02:34:36 juggler, in dire emergency i will ship the old banners out 02:34:42 but we still have time 02:34:44 ticket 167 02:34:54 *crossing fingers* thx kk4ewt 02:35:13 is jsandys going ahead? 02:35:33 jsandys, you are still a ways out 02:35:40 but something you need 02:35:42 can i reserve a ten foot table for $1500 for LFNW2017 02:36:14 jsandys, is there anything less? I'd prefer we spend more like $500 on a sponsorship 02:36:14 hopefully its alot more than a 10' table 02:36:40 like a 10' x 10' booth 02:36:57 the same folks that run that event also do texas, and the pricing is steep 02:36:59 there is a 5' table for liek $750 iirc 02:37:04 yes, and Bill gives use a premium location 02:37:14 * nb would suggest 5' Table - $750 (Logo on Tier 2 of Sponsor Page) 02:37:58 iirc my suggestion was 5' table up to $500 shipping/travel 02:38:21 It is hard to interact with the public in a 5 foot booth IMHO 02:38:33 how so 02:38:51 if you have like 6-8 contribs on table sure 02:38:59 We have been setting up interactive booths 02:39:28 jsandys, btw I'm working on a updated security lab spin iso for you r folks 02:39:45 if you want any specific configs on one prebuilt let me know 02:40:03 also kk4ewt and I were thinking of doing a multi with sec lab for lfnw 02:40:03 Still looking for a security expert to attend 02:40:16 I'd be down if we had budget 02:40:55 that is the problem taking one of us from the east coast to west coast with lodging and flights would spend most of the budget 02:41:08 but travel alone would be nearly 500 for me to come out 02:41:13 it looks like they have went up in price this year 02:41:19 was 1000 for sponsorship last year 02:41:45 Yes, and the friday night party is $2000 02:41:48 jsandys, make your budget and we can look at it, 02:41:59 what does the party get us 02:42:05 which we are not going to sponsor this year 02:42:13 no game nights tho if any of us have any chance of coming from east coast 02:43:06 jsandys, i wonder if they would negotiate any on their price? 02:43:09 like maybe 1000? 02:43:18 to get the larger size booth 02:43:21 the government employs me to information security and protection of networks 02:44:07 I can ask about a discount. 02:44:47 could we discuss tkt 166? 02:45:15 jsandys I would really like to minimize the expense, there are many other events that we are looking into in the midwest 02:45:24 juggler what do you need 02:46:01 166: will SCaLE be covering a room for me? that did not seem evident from last week's logs 02:46:21 the original plan was for me and Alex to share a room..but the plan apparently has changed 02:46:23 ? 02:46:53 juggler, do you mean SCALE is comping you a room or fedora is paying for a roon 02:47:07 the latter 02:47:11 correction 02:47:15 :) 02:47:29 so how many rooms are needed now 02:47:34 juggler, I think we are all confused about who needs a room, someone, maybe paradox? was saying that you live very close to scale, and actually closer than him 02:47:40 if i am not mistaken 02:47:57 nb beat me to it 02:48:45 not close to scale. it's about an hour commute in and out from where I live. 02:48:56 and not near any mass transit either. 02:49:02 distance in miles? 02:49:08 or traffic 02:49:17 traffic, driving and foot 02:49:41 thats far enough for me to say ok to a room 02:49:49 I wouldn't ask for it if I didn't feel I needed it. :) 02:49:59 and if we can share it with another ambassador is even better 02:50:10 that's fine.. 02:50:11 then do we need to bump the budget up 02:50:36 I can readjust as necessary. 02:50:46 is the budget up to date on the site 02:51:00 I may not end up able to go it's looking like 02:51:01 gimme about 2d pls... 02:51:07 * nb really wants to go, but personal reasons might not be able to 02:51:12 nb oh :\ 02:51:13 (I haven't bought ticket yet) 02:51:23 * juggler is hopeful 02:51:24 juggler, not sure, hoping to figure out this weekend if i will be coming 02:51:26 the voted amount was $2, 500.00 02:51:40 nb pls keep me advised... :) 02:51:49 i will 02:52:06 btw, regarding tkt 164, does someone have an action to send a tablecloth? 02:52:21 nb thx 02:52:33 * nb hates plane ticket prices 02:52:54 juggler, it will happen either a new one or the old one 02:52:55 i was just looking and now they've went up, so if i flew to BUR, it'd be like $630 and have like a 12 hour trip 02:53:07 so do we need to vote on a budget increase? 02:53:08 LAX is around 400, but you said that takes a logn time to get there and back 02:53:24 you or paradox, i forget which said not to go to LAX 02:54:00 nb yeah, best to fly into burbank 02:54:11 juggler, well see if nb comes out, then you 2 can share a room 02:54:12 Ok this ticket needs to be re-evaluated. Lets get the correct numbers listed and propose a budget! 02:54:14 award3535 not yet 02:54:17 award3535, I think we still would be within budget 02:54:20 within the 2500 02:54:41 we talking about lfnw or scale now? 02:54:47 how about the tablecloth issue for scale? 02:54:47 scale 02:54:50 modder scale 02:55:03 table cloth should be in the west coast box 02:55:05 award3535, I don't think the budget will need to be increased 02:55:19 1834+~600 for second room still leaves some room for my ticket to be more expensive 02:55:21 award it is? tkt164 seems to describe otherwise...? 02:55:28 new table cloths will more than likely not be done by the event 02:56:13 any table cloth is fine, we will just need one.. 02:56:31 pg's message on the ticket seems to suggest that he is still in need of one.. 02:57:07 I do have one thing to bring up, next week is my Local LUG meeting and I will not be here to chair the meeting.... so any volunteers 02:57:17 I thought west coast didn't have a tablecloth? 02:57:59 well, if there is not one in the event box, then where did it go 02:58:00 so we should go the vinyl route...? :) 02:58:20 seems like the same for the laptop that was lost out there 02:58:26 award3535, lost years ago 02:58:41 kk4ewt yes 02:58:43 juggler, what did i say earlier 02:58:52 well, I guess we'll see whatever's in the box.. 02:59:17 nb when we got tablecloths origionally we got 2 02:59:23 so anyone up for chairing next week 02:59:31 juggler, if the new one doesn't get there in time, then kk4ewt will send you the old one 02:59:35 i will be out next week 02:59:54 nb thx 02:59:56 nb, did you get the mid box back 03:00:00 I may be here, but it sounds like we may not have a quorum anyway 03:00:12 nb, check those tickets I am seeing under $200 roundtrip to scale ( lax) from dc 03:00:19 linuxmodder, BUR 03:00:21 not LAX 03:00:31 award3535, it was shipped yesterday 03:00:49 yeah I wouldn't make nb suffer by flying into LAX ;) 03:00:54 you may want to get that table cloth to juggler 03:01:20 award3535, looks like it should be delivered Monday 03:01:26 well our plan b if we don't see a table cloth is to pick up something at the dollar store..lol 03:01:27 so are we not going to have a meeting next week since I will not be there nor will kk4ewt 03:01:42 linuxmodder, flying into lax would be like you flying into greensboro 03:02:02 award3535, I could chair, but idk if we can make many decisions with you two gone 03:02:04 or richmond 03:02:17 nb if you have a quorum you can 03:02:33 even then under 400 rt 03:02:37 i should be here its the week after i will not 03:02:37 what is a quorum defined as 03:02:42 linuxmodder, check EVV to BUR 03:02:43 5 03:03:05 kk4ewt, ok, one of us can chair thne 03:03:10 525 rt from evv nb 03:03:12 If something comes up I can send it to the ambassadors list 03:03:13 since you will be here next week 03:03:17 with stops in clt and ohx 03:03:20 what's the command to check our attendees here? 03:03:34 #chair 03:03:34 Current chairs: award3535 cydrobolt jsandys juggler kk4ewt linuxmodder masta nb reher 03:03:39 juggler, what day should i arrive and depart 03:03:41 thx kk4ewt 03:03:45 juggler, 3/2 to 3/5? 03:04:09 nb, that is assuming arriving the 1st and departing late on the 5th 03:04:18 nb that sounds correct. double check it against the dates of the conf, pls. 03:05:07 ok folks, anything else from me? I gotta run to another volunteer meeting.. 03:06:11 I will keep the meeting on the schedule, but if no one chairs it will be a bust. but also dont forget to update all the tickets discussed tonight 03:06:43 as long as I'm not scheduled to work that night, I should be able to pop in for the first half. 03:06:47 also if there is a meeting ensure you send the email out after the meeting 03:07:34 anything else tonight 03:07:45 good here 03:07:54 I think modder had something 03:08:01 about lfnw? 03:08:36 linuxmodder..... 03:08:42 ? 03:08:42 oh modder..... 03:08:56 going 1x... 03:09:18 #endmeeting