02:00:45 <award3535> #startmeeting FAmNA
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02:00:57 <award3535> #meetingname FAmNA
02:00:57 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famna'
02:01:07 <award3535> #topic === FAmNA Roll Call ===
02:01:12 <linuxmodder> .hello linuxmodder
02:01:15 <zodbot> linuxmodder: linuxmodder 'Corey W Sheldon' <sheldon.corey@openmailbox.org>
02:01:22 <award3535> #chair linuxmodder
02:01:22 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 linuxmodder
02:01:29 <jsandys> .hello jsandys
02:01:30 <zodbot> jsandys: jsandys 'Jeff Sandys' <jpsandys@gmail.com>
02:01:34 <danofsatx> .hello dmossor
02:01:36 <zodbot> danofsatx: dmossor 'Dan Mossor' <danofsatx@gmail.com>
02:01:42 <award3535> #chair jsandys
02:01:42 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 jsandys linuxmodder
02:01:56 <award3535> #chair danofsatx
02:01:56 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 danofsatx jsandys linuxmodder
02:02:02 * danofsatx is actually here tonight!
02:02:19 <award3535> yeah! you still in SC
02:02:27 <danofsatx> yep.
02:02:56 <linuxmodder> danofsatx,  re: your question in -respins during the ticket chat I'll elaborate
02:03:00 * danofsatx really needs to change the nick...
02:03:14 <linuxmodder> we all know danofsatx  tho :)
02:03:38 <award3535> ok moving right into the announcements got a lot tonight
02:03:40 <award3535> #topic === Announcements ===
02:03:57 <linuxmodder> ! has one for respins later
02:04:54 <award3535> #info === NoMoreAlpha: Fedora 27 and beyond may not include Alpha release ===
02:04:54 <award3535> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoMoreAlpha
02:04:54 <award3535> #info Starting in Fedora 27, there may not be any more Alpha releases as part of Fedora. Instead, people who want to try the latest and greatest are encouraged to install Rawhide and use that to help test and be a part of the release testing process.
02:05:45 <linuxmodder> that shall be fun:)
02:05:53 <award3535> #info === Fedora is participating in GSoC 2017! ===
02:05:53 <award3535> #link https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/5622162267308032/
02:05:54 <award3535> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/gsoc-2017-mentors-ideas-needed/
02:05:54 <award3535> #info On Monday, Fedora was officially announced as a participating organization of Google Summer of Code 2017. You can see more information about our program this year on the Google page, and you can also see a call for mentors and ideas on the Community Blog. If you know any students who might be interested in participating, this is a great program to point them at.
02:06:28 <award3535> #info === Fedorahosted is now retired ===
02:06:28 <award3535> #info Fedorahosted retired completely on this past Tuesday. As of now, all FedoraHosted sites and ticketing instances are no longer accessible. Remember that FAmNA has moved to Pagure for our main ticketing instance and also our requests instance, so please use those for future tickets.
02:07:19 <award3535> thats all that jflory7 had for us, any one else before I move on to tickets
02:08:07 <linuxmodder> New respins out 20170228 includign the Security lab this round for Scale
02:08:42 <linuxmodder> RESPINS SIG also created should have a commblog article and more info within a few weeks
02:09:43 <linuxmodder> #info Free-media SIG is asking any and all assisting to use these respins and also seeking more ambassadors for requests
02:09:54 <linuxmodder> nmmfm
02:10:19 * mikedep333_ is here
02:10:24 <award3535> ok moving to tickets
02:10:34 <award3535> #chair mikedep333
02:10:34 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 danofsatx jsandys linuxmodder mikedep333
02:10:43 <award3535> #topic === Tickets ===
02:10:54 <award3535> https://pagure.io/ambassadors-na/tasks/issues
02:11:13 <award3535> .famnaticket 170
02:11:14 <zodbot> award3535: Issue #170: Bitcamp 2017 - tasks - Pagure - https://pagure.io/ambassadors-na/tasks/issue/170
02:11:25 <award3535> linuxmodder your up
02:12:06 <linuxmodder> This is a second year appearance, looking at possible danofsatx  in attendance but looking for any other local ambassadors for attending
02:12:32 <mikedep333_> I can go.
02:12:41 <linuxmodder> the baseline sponsorship is $1K I originally asked for $1250 to cover sponsorship and shipping of EB
02:12:53 <linuxmodder> mikedep333_,  would love that
02:13:13 <award3535> you would need to add some travel exp for those coming out of area
02:13:19 <linuxmodder> been looking at possibly  bumping to a @k budget mostly for travel tho if there are no objections
02:13:30 <linuxmodder> 2K*
02:13:50 <danofsatx> I was only going to come if noone else stepped up.
02:14:08 <award3535> mikedep333 how close to the area are you
02:14:12 <linuxmodder> being the local guy I'm looking at <$50 for myself and ~$100 shipping so most of budget would be for travel
02:14:17 <mikedep333_> Well, I live in Princeton now.
02:14:26 <mikedep333_> But I can stay at my Dad's place in Annapolis.
02:14:51 <linuxmodder> mikedep333_,  this is same one we were with jflory7 and cydrobolt  last year
02:14:58 <mikedep333_> I know :)
02:15:24 <award3535> cydrobolt is in the Phili area
02:15:52 <linuxmodder> I pesonally have no issue with mikedep333_  or danofsatx  coming in so long as we are cool with up to $2k includign travel and can keep it under that
02:16:23 <linuxmodder> award3535,  prelim would a bump to $2k be fine budget wise
02:16:32 <award3535> +1 for 2K for Bitcamp 2017
02:16:43 <kk4ewt> +1 2K budget
02:17:01 <kk4ewt> .hello jbw
02:17:03 <linuxmodder> that would give us $1k sponsor and ~$100 shipping and ~ $900 for travela nd oh crap funds
02:17:03 <zodbot> kk4ewt: Sorry, but you don't exist
02:17:06 <kk4ewt> .hello jbwillia
02:17:07 <zodbot> kk4ewt: jbwillia 'Ben Williams' <vaioof@yahoo.com>
02:17:11 <award3535> #chair kk4ewt
02:17:11 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 danofsatx jsandys kk4ewt linuxmodder mikedep333
02:17:28 <danofsatx> +1 2k budget for BITCAMP
02:17:36 <mikedep333_> +1 2k budget for BITCAMP
02:17:47 <linuxmodder> kk4ewt,  I will let you know as soon as we get an address for shipping as its not same bldg on campus this year
02:18:02 <award3535> #agreed $2,000.00 budget for Bitcamp
02:18:05 <jsandys> +1
02:18:12 <linuxmodder> the table is a 3'x6' so 3-4 would be fine on table
02:18:26 <award3535> ok moving to next ticket
02:18:35 * danofsatx requires a shirt before he attends an event
02:18:43 <linuxmodder> kk4ewt,  XO is still in the EB ? it was a major hit with youngsters with parents / brothers here last year
02:18:57 <linuxmodder> nb should have one iirc danofsatx
02:19:09 <kk4ewt> yes
02:19:19 * linuxmodder needs to find his too :(
02:19:32 <award3535> danofsatx contact nb...
02:19:39 <danofsatx> roger, wilco
02:19:47 <linuxmodder> I'll update the ticket tonight after mtg
02:19:47 <award3535> .famnaticket 169
02:19:48 <zodbot> award3535: Issue #169: Proposal for FAmNA Requests Trac migration - tasks - Pagure - https://pagure.io/ambassadors-na/tasks/issue/169
02:19:58 <award3535> this one will be quick
02:20:26 <award3535> the system has been fixed from private tickets for reimbursements and things of that nature
02:20:31 <linuxmodder> isn't this already done?
02:20:48 <award3535> wasnt tested yet but now its complete
02:21:12 <danofsatx> +1 close ticket
02:21:14 <jsandys> I think it would be best to keep the budget info in pagure and not on the wiki page.
02:21:38 <kk4ewt> jsandys,  expalin that please
02:21:43 <kk4ewt> explain
02:21:57 <jsandys> The wiki can have a link to the pagure ticket.
02:22:19 <linuxmodder> again why not have a mere mention on wiki ho is my question
02:22:29 <jsandys> Anyone can read the wiki, pagure is closed
02:22:36 <award3535> budget will be placed there once i get the amount
02:22:47 <kk4ewt> and we are a open source and we belive in open
02:22:52 <linuxmodder> wiki pages are still needed unless you are suggessting all things go on pagure including event pages
02:22:59 <jsandys> OK
02:23:19 <linuxmodder> addys and such will for sure stay private
02:23:32 <kk4ewt> now money going to people needs to be kept private
02:23:39 <linuxmodder> ^^
02:23:54 <award3535> yes the money part will be private
02:24:14 <award3535> only admin bex can see those tickets
02:24:25 <award3535> that includes nb
02:24:44 <kk4ewt> and hopefully you
02:24:53 <award3535> and of course the person that puts the ticket in can see
02:25:06 <award3535> and yes I am part of the admins group
02:25:48 <kk4ewt> ok admins and bex
02:26:02 <award3535> .famnaticket 167
02:26:04 <zodbot> award3535: Issue #167: LFNW2017 May 6-7 - tasks - Pagure - https://pagure.io/ambassadors-na/tasks/issue/167
02:26:19 <jsandys> I submitted a updated budget.
02:26:20 <jsandys> $2150 total, Tier 1 sponsor $1500, Swag $500, Shipping $150
02:26:20 <jsandys> Does not include travel.
02:26:41 <linuxmodder> jsandys,  are yopu still wanting the security-lab for that event?
02:27:01 <jsandys> I would like to feature it.
02:27:05 <award3535> jsandys my only question is for the swag, did the items go through media team for approval
02:27:23 <award3535> since you are generating specific items
02:27:24 <jsandys> not yet
02:27:29 <linuxmodder> jsandys,  ping me or kk4ewt  the week of and one of us should be able to get a updated sec lab for you
02:27:42 <jsandys> I would like to get laser engraved logo dice  ($210 for 500) so guests can generate a passphrase.
02:27:42 <kk4ewt> the week before please
02:28:08 <kk4ewt> F25-20170228 updated live isos are available at http://tinyurl.com/Live-respins2
02:28:13 <linuxmodder> jsandys,  for a passphrase how many sides are these dice?
02:28:17 <kk4ewt> proof it can be done
02:28:25 <linuxmodder> jsandys,  those have sec-lab as is
02:28:42 <jsandys> 6 sided dice, with fedora logo for the one
02:29:04 <jsandys> using the eff pass phase lists
02:29:40 <linuxmodder> hum..
02:29:42 <award3535> jsandys since we have time on this I would like the design team/media approve this
02:29:53 <jsandys> of course
02:29:58 <linuxmodder> +1 on media approval
02:30:40 <award3535> I think its a good idea, but we need to have the nob from design/media
02:30:48 <linuxmodder> mikedep333_,  hit me up on email or pm after mtg re: bitcamp pls
02:31:07 <mikedep333_> linuxmodder: Let's discuss tomorrow. Need sleep.
02:31:12 <jsandys> Can we approve budget for the table
02:31:12 <linuxmodder> kk
02:31:43 <kk4ewt> propose 2.5K for budget
02:32:07 <award3535> jsandys is there a smaller table, 10Ft is larger than we normally have
02:32:08 <linuxmodder> fo rlfnw still?
02:32:18 <danofsatx> +1, LFNW is one of the premier events.
02:32:30 <kk4ewt> yes
02:32:41 <linuxmodder> 5' or 6' table is preferred imo too
02:33:00 <danofsatx> I humbly request y'all get an interview with Linux Action Show and put them on the spot about their hate of RHEL & CentOS
02:33:01 <kk4ewt> linuxmodder,  10' booth area
02:33:37 <linuxmodder> I was reading as 10' table not booth
02:33:41 <jsandys> The 5 foot tables are difficult to interact with guests, because of size and location when the crouds hit.
02:34:22 <jsandys> it is a booth 10x8
02:35:22 <linuxmodder> jsandys,  had little issue at bitcamp last year on a 6'
02:35:30 <award3535> +1 for 1.5K booth area
02:35:40 <linuxmodder> and we stayed busy same at LISA
02:36:13 <kk4ewt> linuxmodder,  ok different events and different pricing models
02:36:53 <award3535> we can revisit swag and travel but would also follow kk4ewt for 2.5K for the event
02:37:16 <linuxmodder> overall of 2.5k is +1 from me
02:37:24 <award3535> I would move to vote on $2,500.00
02:37:33 <award3535> +1 2.5k
02:37:37 <jsandys> +1 2.5k
02:37:39 <linuxmodder> +1 at 2.5k
02:37:45 <kk4ewt> +1
02:38:01 <award3535> one more vote...
02:38:08 <mikedep333_> +1
02:38:12 <linuxmodder> mikedep333_,  still here?
02:38:22 <mikedep333_> Sorry, IRC client was acting up.
02:38:32 <award3535> #agreed LFNW budget $2,500.00
02:38:45 <jsandys> Thank you.
02:38:58 <award3535> jsandys this will require a purchase order from bex, you may want to start the process now!
02:39:23 <jsandys> bex?
02:39:37 <award3535> linuxmodder and jsandys ensure you update pagure with information
02:39:38 <linuxmodder> bexelbie == bex
02:39:52 <award3535> Brian Exelbie
02:39:53 <linuxmodder> award3535,  already did will hit up wiki tonight
02:40:00 <award3535> cool
02:40:02 <jsandys> Will do
02:40:06 <award3535> and thank you
02:40:09 <kk4ewt> .fasinfo bex
02:40:10 <zodbot> kk4ewt: User: bex, Name: Brian (bex) Exelbierd, email: bex@pobox.com, Creation: 2014-06-12, IRC Nick: bexelbie, Timezone: Europe/Prague, Locale: en, GPG key ID: CE92EA393146330034BCAA4984733A2DBF0CAA95, Status: active
02:40:13 <zodbot> kk4ewt: Approved Groups: packager gitfedora-web web cla_fpca cla_done docs fedorabugs docs-writers
02:40:16 <jsandys> I would like an ambassador with security experience to join me.
02:40:16 <jsandys> I can put someone up a day or two before or after if you come to Seattle.
02:40:17 <jsandys> The Bellingham airport is near the hotel I will be using.
02:40:37 <linuxmodder> I have no personal budget for that or I'd be game to
02:41:02 <award3535> and I will be on travel for Govmt Job
02:41:03 <linuxmodder> not if I stick to going to SELF
02:41:23 <jsandys> OK
02:41:27 * danofsatx has been in IT security for 20 years
02:41:42 <linuxmodder> jsandys,  if its possible at booth I'd be game for a remote demo or something like that
02:42:02 <jsandys> interesting
02:42:03 <danofsatx> more on the defense side, though, than the offense.
02:42:26 <linuxmodder> much the same here mostly closing up things not breaking hem
02:42:57 <award3535> I only have to take the ceh test and I will be certified
02:43:09 <linuxmodder> jsandys,  I can possibly even work with you on a custom sec-lab  image for the lappy
02:43:19 <award3535> and pretty much the same , more defensive
02:43:27 <linuxmodder> cissp or ocsp or go home :)
02:43:36 <linuxmodder> oscp*
02:43:47 <award3535> cissp in the works now
02:43:58 <jsandys> I think it would be valuable for us to experience the different fest around the country
02:44:08 <linuxmodder> doing my  rhcsa /rhcse myself
02:44:13 <danofsatx> SSCP next Wednesday, RHCE after that, then CISSP.
02:44:23 <mikedep333_> I can provide a horror story of a CISSP misconfiguring systems.
02:44:35 <linuxmodder> on ML maybe :)
02:44:36 <danofsatx> I have plenty of those ;)
02:44:50 <linuxmodder> 15 mins left folks
02:45:01 <award3535> Cissps should be configuring anything, but oversight
02:45:11 <danofsatx> exactly.
02:45:15 <award3535> #topic == Open Floor ===
02:45:19 <danofsatx> Tickets are done, go linuxmodder
02:45:48 <kk4ewt> ok award3535  do we want to get SELF approved
02:45:53 <award3535> danofsatx will you be at SELF this year
02:46:07 <linuxmodder> as some may know Respins-SIG was created last week, if you have custom iso requests hit us up in #fedora-respins
02:46:16 <danofsatx> not this year, that's the timeframe I'm moving the family up here from SATX
02:46:21 <award3535> kk4ewt we dont have the ticket in pagure yet
02:46:48 <kk4ewt> award3535,  the ticket should be pagure
02:46:57 <danofsatx> it's not
02:47:04 <kk4ewt> then where is it
02:47:09 <linuxmodder> I will also be working on trying to centralize the process and get a github page /  gitlab page as a wiki if you were
02:47:33 <danofsatx> it's not even closed
02:47:36 <linuxmodder> kk4ewt,  maybe on the sunset'ed trac
02:47:53 <kk4ewt> and that was suppose to be transferred
02:48:15 <linuxmodder> best laid plans ( i can look later too )
02:48:27 <award3535> kk4ewt I can generate one quickly
02:48:40 <linuxmodder> award3535,  I WILL be at SELF
02:49:23 <danofsatx> ...although, I could time it so we come through Charlotte that weekend....
02:49:51 <award3535> kk4ewt did you want the same amount listed
02:50:24 <kk4ewt> yes 2.5K
02:51:19 <kk4ewt> i have start the duplicator  and so we will need media because of course F26 is due Tuesday after the event
02:53:02 <kk4ewt> wiki page is up https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SELF_2017
02:53:03 <linuxmodder> who has the duplicaror atm ?
02:53:12 <award3535> ok ticket created and i will populate it later
02:53:41 <kk4ewt> spot
02:53:55 <jsandys> I put a note on the marketing mail list about Spin your Exhibit  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Spin_Your_Exhibit
02:54:31 <jsandys> now to join the 6AM Tuesday IRC meeting
02:54:32 <linuxmodder> jsandys,  wqill look at later nice
02:54:40 <award3535> do we have an approval for 2.5k, booth is only $500 and I can pay that with the card
02:54:41 <danofsatx> huh, I don't subscribe to that list...
02:54:58 <award3535> +1 for SELF at 2.5K
02:54:58 <danofsatx> +1 $2500 for SELF
02:54:59 <linuxmodder> for self I'm +1 on 2.5k
02:55:19 <kk4ewt> +1
02:55:27 <award3535> mikedep333?
02:55:40 <jsandys> +1 (thought we apvd SELF)
02:56:03 <mikedep333_> +1
02:56:06 <award3535> #agreed $2,500.00 For SELF
02:56:23 <kk4ewt> jsandys,  i thought i did a pagure for it and marked as meeting but no one can find it
02:56:46 <award3535> jsandys not unless it was during the week I was gone to the Local Lug meeting
02:58:11 <award3535> ok any thing else before I end the meeting tonight
02:58:24 <danofsatx> EOF from me
02:58:41 <linuxmodder> nnfm
02:59:42 <award3535> ok folks thank you for attending, good meeting we accomplished alot tonight. next meeting will be 9 Mar 2017 2100 east
02:59:56 <danofsatx> roger out
03:00:02 <award3535> #endmeeting