01:00:49 #startmeeting FAmNA 01:00:49 Meeting started Fri Jul 14 01:00:49 2017 UTC. The chair is award3535. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:00:49 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 01:00:49 The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 01:01:05 #meetingname FAmNA 01:01:05 The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 01:01:09 #topic === FAmNA Roll Call === 01:01:23 #chair bexelbie reher 01:01:23 Current chairs: award3535 bexelbie reher 01:01:48 evening reher 01:01:59 .hello bex 01:02:00 bexelbie: bex 'Brian (bex) Exelbierd' 01:02:21 hi award3535 01:02:30 I happen to be in a US appropriate timezone so I wanted to join 01:02:46 hopefully we will have more since there is another ticket 01:03:04 bexelbie, that is wonderful where are you at now 01:03:13 I am at the LATAM Organizational FAD - they have been discussing a lot of the same questions going on in NA - good stuff 01:03:16 * bexelbie is in Peru 01:03:25 cool 01:03:30 hello bexelbie 01:03:58 you must have some lomo saltado 01:04:02 It'd be great to see some cross-regional collaboration on the questions around how to evaluate what we do, etc. There may also be some event ideas that are useful 01:04:09 Hi reher 01:04:16 I'll ask some one here to help me with that :) 01:04:22 * bexelbie is not a Spanish speaker 01:04:35 * mikedep333 is here 01:04:45 Sorry, was replying to https://pagure.io/ambassadors-na/tasks/issue/181 01:04:48 #chair mikedep333 01:04:48 Current chairs: award3535 bexelbie mikedep333 reher 01:05:14 mikedep333 that was one of the items that I was going to cover tonight 01:05:36 #chair jsandys 01:05:36 Current chairs: award3535 bexelbie jsandys mikedep333 reher 01:05:40 computing al fresco 01:05:44 evening jsandys 01:06:08 ok moving on.... 01:06:13 #topic === Announcements === 01:07:08 #info If you didn't get a chance to read the SELF report 01:07:08 https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=4028&preview=1&_ppp=6ba9d39410 01:08:04 Does anyone have anything else for the announcements before I move on 01:09:08 ok I will post some things that are forth coming in planning events 01:10:14 The first item is going to be required in generation and budget tickets need to answer or cover the following 01:10:22 1. What is the focus of the event from a Fedora point of view? 01:10:42 2. How does our attendance at this event build users of or contributors to the Fedora platform overall? 01:11:10 3. How does our attendance at this event build users of or contributors to specific Fedora solutions — and why are those particular solutions strategically important? 01:11:27 4. How will success be measured? If the event doesn't meet its benchmarks, how will we adjust? 01:12:57 This is a new initiative that must be on your wiki page and included in your write up 01:13:11 Understood. 01:13:23 How will success be measured? 01:14:16 mikedep333 as you saw in the ticket that is the new format, more guidance to follow when the council gets the initiative documentation complete 01:14:21 Part of an event is intangible 'good will' 01:15:04 hello 01:15:13 jsandys that is what we need to come up with, for instance, I bring a survey sheet for visiting individuals to fill out and I put it thru the grinder 01:15:20 #chair juggler 01:15:20 Current chairs: award3535 bexelbie jsandys juggler mikedep333 reher 01:15:22 initiative documentation? URL? 01:15:41 jsandys its not ready yet 01:15:53 draft? 01:16:16 I was assured by mattdm that it was in the works 01:16:58 I also put myself on the council mailing list so that I would see the changes coming out 01:17:49 the bottom line is we as a group should be able to meet the requirements put forth by our leaders 01:18:05 * kk4ewt is here 01:18:14 #chair kk4ewt 01:18:14 Current chairs: award3535 bexelbie jsandys juggler kk4ewt mikedep333 reher 01:18:14 hello kk4ewt 01:18:33 bexelbie, do you have anything more you can add to this 01:18:44 sure 01:19:07 My understanding is that Matthew offered these questions as how he thinks about events 01:19:22 The council wants all ambassador groups to thinkabout events and evaluate them 01:19:30 we don't expect everything to be a 100% success 01:19:39 pushing yourself and trying new things is going to mean somethings don't work 01:20:00 knowing what you expected and then figuring out how to adjust is a natural process to think about for any event, even recurring ones 01:20:17 the other portion of this is trying to focus the majority of our effort on things that support hte mission 01:20:30 there will always be other events and ideas, but those should consume the majority of hte effort 01:20:48 If NA wants to use these 4 questions as a requirement to help event planners think about the events they suggest 01:20:49 that is fine 01:21:03 whatever helps NA and all the ambassadors together enjoy the greatest success 01:21:06 eom 01:22:07 mikedep333, you also need to create a wiki page for the event with these questions answered 01:22:55 ok moving on 01:22:58 #topic === Tickets === 01:23:14 https://pagure.io/ambassadors-na/tasks/issues 01:23:22 Understood 01:23:38 .famnaticket 181 01:23:39 award3535: Issue #181: FOSSCON 2017 - tasks - Pagure - https://pagure.io/ambassadors-na/tasks/issue/181 01:24:22 * bexelbie moves to his phone as the meeting is ending on site 01:24:52 mikedep333 no worries, I am also behind on mine as well, so once you get the page created and final budget completed, we have time 01:25:23 also its been a steep learning curve for me and the budget process, so you are not alone 01:25:26 Should I create it right now during the meeting? 01:26:07 mikedep333, its up to you, but we need a bottom line for budget and is anyone else attending other than you? 01:26:40 I reached out to linuxmodder, who was the owner for previous years. I have not heard back yet. 01:27:13 linuxmodder has another engagement, conflict, so probably not 01:27:24 Once we figure out the shipping costs and any media costs, and if I am the only one coming, then the budget can be finalized. 01:27:44 linuxmodder has stepped away for a while 01:28:06 i really think that for events we need to have at least 2 ambassadors at an event 01:28:18 Yeah, I understand. 01:28:26 and no ambassador should be one on one with anyone 01:28:29 mikedep333, before finalize put some invites out, cydrobolt is in that area as well 01:28:37 Oh, right. 01:28:42 I will reach out to him. 01:28:57 and yes there will be no single ambassador at anyevent 01:29:22 mikedep333, where you at the meeting when we discussed this 01:30:07 No 01:30:13 It makes perfect sense though. 01:30:29 <--laptop battery dying. will stay until I drop off. :( 01:31:10 mikedep333, here is what you missed, to protect all involved there will be no one on one event. 01:31:10 and no ambassador should be one on one with anyone? 01:31:20 correct 01:31:37 Understood 01:31:48 there can be one ambassador and two individuals, or two ambassadors with one individual 01:31:56 this protects all parties 01:32:02 offhand, was there some one on one incident historically? 01:32:10 jsandys basicly if know anything about Scouting its simulair to youth protection training 01:32:57 juggler, in a sense, but this is for everyones protection 01:33:12 it prevents issues in the long run 01:33:40 understood 01:33:52 moving on 01:34:03 .famnaticket 179 01:34:04 award3535: Issue #179: Ohio Linux Fest Budget request - tasks - Pagure - https://pagure.io/ambassadors-na/tasks/issue/179 01:34:49 The only information on this ticket is that I need to update the wiki and ticket with the questions and initiative information 01:36:07 ok moving to open 01:36:20 #topic == Open Floor === 01:37:14 happy F26 all 01:37:35 kk4ewt do you have anything to discuss? juggler roger! 01:37:51 will be loading it on my sisters laptop this weekend 01:38:18 Is there someone who could give a presentation on Python Classroom at SeaGL? 01:38:29 any positive experiences in-place upgrading F25->F26? thinking of doing so after bkp 01:39:32 juggler, i have heard of good and bad 01:40:12 ok, make a bkp definitely, check. :) 01:40:17 my suggestion is backup dnf update disable third party repos and have a live usb ready just in case 01:40:39 got it. 01:43:08 anything else folks 01:43:24 Python Classroom speaker? 01:44:17 I will be in Texas and Ohio, so I cannot 01:44:26 jsandys, the first person i think is possible adamw 01:44:38 what'd I do now 01:45:18 oh, i can't do that. i'll be in england during seagl. 01:45:23 adamw, I am going to my sons Air Force Pilot graduation 01:45:31 then off to Ohio 01:45:37 for OLF 01:46:01 adamw, I have not heard anything about TXLF 01:46:09 looking for a speaker on Python classroom for SeaGL in October 01:46:27 award3535: i dunno why you keep addressing things to me, i'm not in charge of anything here - i just got pinged by kk4ewt. 01:46:31 adamw, you can crash at my place. 01:46:45 that's okay, i'll be at my mum's. 01:47:05 okay, usually you are involved in TXLF 01:47:06 adamw, i know you proable good to it off the top your head 01:47:15 could 01:47:18 award3535: er, you may be confusing me with someone else. i've never been to texas. 01:47:23 adamw, do you want to submit a python classroom talk to SeaGL? 01:47:29 and you are alot closer than most of us 01:47:36 ....i just said, i'll be in england when seagl is happening. 01:47:52 mom = England 01:47:52 adamw, I think I am..... thought you were maxamillion 01:48:18 award3535: jeez, that guy. next time i see him i'm forcing him to change his name 01:48:21 :P 01:48:23 jsandys, put out a call on the amabassador list and the developers list 01:48:36 will do 01:50:00 ok, if there is nothing else I will close the meeting 01:50:09 I could also use some help with flask to get the beefy connection kiosk app working with a badge scanner. 01:51:19 I'll try vwbusguy the original author again 01:52:00 vwbusguy may be a good person for the y python lab 01:52:23 OK 01:53:00 I'm very interested in the python lab, but nowhere near ready to give a talk. 01:54:48 They will have some 20 minute talk slots at SeaGL 01:58:40 Thank you all for attending, Our next meeting will not be until the 28th of July 01:58:57 thanks 01:59:15 #topic == Open Floor === 01:59:29 #endmeeting