16:01:48 <sesivany> #startmeeting FAmSCo 2014-07-15 16:01:48 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Jul 15 16:01:48 2014 UTC. The chair is sesivany. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:01:48 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:01:50 <sesivany> #meetingname famsco 16:01:50 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famsco' 16:01:56 <sesivany> #topic Roll Call 16:02:23 <sesivany> masta, yn_1v: pong 16:02:40 <sesivany> robyduck: ping 16:02:45 <sesivany> .fas eischmann 16:02:45 <zodbot> sesivany: eischmann 'Jiri Eischmann' <eischmann@redhat.com> 16:03:11 <yn_1v> .fas yn1v 16:03:12 <zodbot> yn_1v: yn1v 'Neville A. Cross' <yn1v@taygon.com> 16:03:37 <masta> hey folks, I'm half here... in another meeting 16:04:06 <masta> .fas parasense 16:04:06 <zodbot> masta: parasense 'Jon Disnard' <jdisnard@gmail.com> 16:04:45 <sesivany> masta: no problem, I'm still not sure if we're not going to cancel today's meeting. I saw a lot of regrets in the mailing list. 16:04:52 <sesivany> it's a holiday time :) 16:05:05 <sesivany> lbazan: ping 16:07:53 <sesivany> yn_1v: do you have any topic to discuss today? 16:08:00 <yn_1v> not really 16:09:23 <sesivany> ok, if no one else is going to show up in 5 minutes, let's cancel the meeting. 16:11:41 <tuanta_> .fas tuanta 16:11:42 <zodbot> tuanta_: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' <tuanta@iwayvietnam.com> 16:11:45 <tuanta_> sorry, I am late 16:11:47 * tuanta_ is trouble shooting my network :( 16:12:15 <sesivany> tuanta_: do you have any topic to discuss? There are just 3.5 of us today. 16:12:54 <tuanta_> how about drafting a new guidelines for Mentors? 16:13:20 <sesivany> #topic New guidelines for mentors 16:13:30 * tuanta_ is looking for link 16:13:48 <tuanta_> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/fama-mentors/2014-July/000047.html 16:13:54 <tuanta_> this is an idea 16:14:24 <tuanta_> and I would like to draft a guidelines then share to mentors for comments 16:14:44 <tuanta_> then we will have a common guidelines for mentors, especially new ones 16:14:53 <sesivany> tuanta_: that's actually a good idea. 16:15:29 <sesivany> tuanta_: how about creating an etherpad where everyone can put his/her rules and then we can pick the best ones? 16:15:32 <tuanta_> mentoring strategy could be different between mentors, but we could have common guidelines 16:15:44 <tuanta_> sesivany, that's a good idea 16:15:53 <tuanta_> I will create one, and draft something in 16:16:40 <tuanta_> #action tuanta to draft a new mentors guidelines and share them via Etherpad for people to comment in easier 16:16:48 <sesivany> #action tuanta to create an etherpad to collect rules for ambassador candidates 16:16:58 <sesivany> damn... you're faster 16:17:02 <sesivany> #undo 16:17:02 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by sesivany at 16:16:48 : tuanta to create an etherpad to collect rules for ambassador candidates 16:17:23 <tuanta_> actually, I have not much idea at this moment 16:17:52 <tuanta_> I will reserve a free time (about 1h) to think about this and wirte something down 16:18:01 <tuanta_> s/wirte/write 16:18:04 <sesivany> tuanta_: I'm quite busy with Flock, so I don't have an idea either. 16:18:19 <tuanta_> that's ok. I will do 16:18:20 <sesivany> but I will surely have some to chip in. 16:18:37 <tuanta_> it's also my topic at Flock 16:18:58 <sesivany> for example I require all candidates to attend at least one regional IRC meeting before they're accepted as ambassadors. 16:18:59 <tuanta_> I would like to collect some ideas before Flock 16:19:06 <sesivany> that could be a rule. 16:19:15 <tuanta_> yes, good 16:19:57 <tuanta_> in my mentoring work, I would like my mentees to do some real activities (or events) and I would support them 16:20:03 <tuanta_> support almost things 16:20:32 <tuanta_> give them necessary pages to understand how to do those tasks 16:20:40 <tuanta_> I meant wiki pages 16:20:45 <sesivany> yep 16:21:53 <tuanta_> we can think many things could be done before approve one to be a new ambassador. all for make sure they are ready with that new purose 16:21:54 <sesivany> otherwise we didn't receive much feedback from the mentors, did we? 16:22:07 <tuanta_> yes, not much 16:23:05 <tuanta_> but I will try to drive this. Hope they would have more attention 16:23:41 <tuanta_> let me draft something then we can discuss on mailing list and next meeting(s) 16:23:42 <sesivany> looks like mentors don't care much about the process. 16:23:56 <tuanta_> sesivany, maybe, I don't know 16:24:03 <yn_1v> there is no standard 16:24:17 <tuanta_> yes, that's true at this moment 16:24:22 <yn_1v> and I think is different across regions 16:24:40 <tuanta_> yes, but there are some common things at the same time 16:24:54 <tuanta_> I think so, yn_1v 16:25:21 <tuanta_> of course, we can have some specific stuffs for regions 16:25:47 <tuanta_> if we are sure that they could be specific for that region 16:26:09 <sesivany> yeah, there is some common base among regions. 16:26:31 <yn_1v> probably we sholud look as guidelines and not as rules 16:26:43 <tuanta_> yes, they are guidelines 16:27:41 <tuanta_> if you have any ideas for this, olease feel free to send me over the mailing list 16:27:41 <sesivany> yn_1v: sure, it was just bad wording from me. 16:27:58 <tuanta_> I will make sure they put in the first draft 16:28:20 <tuanta_> I have no more topic to discuss today 16:28:55 <sesivany> tuanta_: you should create a ticket, too, but we should gather ideas and brainstorm on an etherpad which is a better tool for this. 16:29:35 <tuanta_> ok, I will use both 16:29:48 <tuanta_> etherpad is better for drafting 16:30:10 <tuanta_> but ticket is more formal 16:31:04 <tuanta_> I may use wiki instead of etherpad for better tracking 16:31:12 <tuanta_> I will see 16:31:58 <sesivany> ok, is it all for today then? or do we have anything else to discuss? 16:32:12 <tuanta_> nope at my side 16:32:59 <sesivany> ok, let's end the meeting then. 16:33:32 <sesivany> thank you, guys, for coming and meet you next week and most importantly in person at Flock! 16:33:37 <tuanta_> thanks 16:34:17 <yn_1v> we are about three week away of flock 16:34:22 <yn_1v> aren't we? 16:34:38 <tuanta_> yes, yn_1v 16:34:48 <sesivany> yn_1v: the organization is getting serious, we still have a lot to finish. 16:34:49 <tuanta_> yn_1v, you are attending? 16:34:53 <yn_1v> yes 16:35:05 <tuanta_> great. see you there 16:35:21 <tuanta_> sesivany, I see 16:35:25 <tuanta_> thank you all 16:35:33 <sesivany> #endmeeting