14:00:23 <mailga> #startmeeting FAmSCo 2016-01-27 14:00:23 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Jan 27 14:00:23 2016 UTC. The chair is mailga. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:23 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 14:00:23 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famsco_2016-01-27' 14:00:41 <mailga> #meetingname famsco 14:00:41 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famsco' 14:00:55 <mailga> #topic Roll Call 14:00:58 <mattdm> hi everyone! 14:01:07 <decauseWiTNYC> .hello decause 14:01:07 <mailga> .fas mailga 14:01:07 <zodbot> decauseWiTNYC: decause 'Remy DeCausemaker' <decause@redhat.com> 14:01:10 <zodbot> mailga: mailga 'Gabriele Trombini' <g.trombini@gmail.com> 14:01:21 <mattdm> I have another meeting in a few minutes but I wanted to stop by :) 14:01:22 <potty> .fas potty 14:01:22 <zodbot> potty: potty 'Abdel G. MartÃnez L.' <abdel.g.martinez.l@gmail.com> - radhakrishnanpotty 'S.Radhakrishnan' <radhakrishnanpotty@hotmail.com> 14:01:23 <mailga> hello mattdm & decauseWiTNYC 14:01:28 <tuanta> .fas tuanta 14:01:28 <zodbot> tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' <tuanta@iwayvietnam.com> 14:01:38 <tuanta> Hi all 14:01:51 <mailga> hello tuanta and potty 14:01:58 <potty> hello 14:02:09 <mailga> gnokii around? 14:02:52 <mailga> #chair potty tuanta mattdm decauseWiTNYC 14:02:52 <zodbot> Current chairs: decauseWiTNYC mailga mattdm potty tuanta 14:03:33 <mailga> lets wait five min for other people.. 14:03:39 <tuanta> and cwickert? do you know where he is? 14:05:30 <gnokii> yes 14:05:43 * decauseWiTNYC waves to gnokii :) 14:05:47 <gnokii> .fas gnokii 14:05:49 <zodbot> gnokii: gnokii 'Sirko Kemter' <buergermeister@karl-tux-stadt.de> 14:07:20 <mailga> ok seems we reached the quorum 14:07:45 <mailga> #info agenda https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/famsco/2016-January/001720.html 14:08:00 <mailga> #topic Chair Election 14:08:36 <mailga> another week is gone, no replies on the ML afaik. I'd like Christoph as chair, but if he's not able to attend meetings or send mails to the list, we should go ahead. 14:09:04 * mailga thinks giannsik is around the world 14:10:34 <potty> +1 14:11:43 <potty> mailga: how the chair will be elected? 14:11:50 <gnokii> whats a chair when he never attends nor says something on the ml 14:11:52 * decauseWiTNYC has another meeting in 20 mins, but has an agenda item too 14:13:43 <gnokii> wb mailga 14:14:05 <mailga> sorry connection fault 14:14:38 <mailga> I was saying that another week is gone, no replies on the ML afaik. I'd like Christoph as chair, but if he's not able to attend meetings or send mails to the list, we should go ahead. 14:15:20 <mailga> do we have any preference or we can vote as last time we said? No time left to wait anyone. 14:15:41 <potty> I think we should vote as last time. 14:15:44 <tuanta> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_election_rules#Election_of_the_Chairperson 14:15:46 <mailga> proposal was giannisk as chair and potty as vice-chair. 14:16:13 <tuanta> we should follow the pre-defined process 14:16:45 <mailga> my vote is +1 for giannisk chair and potty vice-chair 14:17:00 <gnokii> we should follow what? 14:17:21 <potty> tuanta: what is the pre-defined process? 14:17:46 <tuanta> I just paste a link above 14:17:53 <potty> kk 14:18:11 <gnokii> there is no pre-defined process, the only thing was is defined is the time frame and that we past long time ago 14:18:27 <tuanta> people can nominate themselves, or if you want to nominate a person, that person should confirm the nomination 14:19:03 <tuanta> that is a generic rule in Fedora election 14:19:10 <potty> we already nominate last week tuanta 14:19:26 <potty> giannisk and potty 14:19:28 * mattdm off to a meeting 14:19:49 <tuanta> chairperson will appoint vice chair 14:19:53 * mailga waves to mattdm 14:20:16 <tuanta> we just need to elect the chair person 14:20:41 <potty> According to that, we should elect chairperson between giannisk and potty 14:20:53 <potty> Then the winner will appoint his vicechairperson 14:21:47 * decauseWiTNYC has to go to another meeting too 14:22:13 * mailga was not aware of the chair appointment of the vice-chair 14:22:13 <tuanta> my internet connection at home is not good, I may be off suddenly, sorry 14:22:22 * mailga waves to decauseWiTNYC 14:22:36 <decauseWiTNYC> FYI, itamarjp from LATAM would like to take over as the new cardholder in LATAM from Neville Cross. I've told him to post to the FAMSCo list, so be on the lookout :) 14:22:36 <tuanta> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_election_rules#Appointment_of_Vice-Chairperson 14:22:40 <decauseWiTNYC> good luck new famsco 14:22:48 <potty> thanks decauseWiTNYC 14:23:06 <decauseWiTNYC> just let me know how I can help you folks going forward, I'm really glad to see ambassador leadership coming togehter again :) 14:23:06 <potty> tuanta: you are right. 14:23:25 * decauseWiTNYC & 14:27:39 <potty> ? 14:28:08 <mailga> if we don't have the whole attendance 14:28:26 <mailga> we cannot start the same discussion every week. 14:28:32 <gnokii> ++ 14:29:21 <mailga> so for me is a +1 for giannisk that's doing the same in the EMEA meetings. 14:29:45 <mailga> He knows he's candidate already. EOF 14:30:12 * potty is wondering if I can vote for myself? 14:30:50 <mailga> potty: yes you can, if I recall correctly. 14:31:44 <potty> +1 potty 14:32:07 <mailga> gnokii, tuanta? 14:32:23 <gnokii> for me its giannisk +1 14:33:21 <tuanta> +1 for potty 14:33:37 <mailga> well we're stuck! 14:33:48 <potty> lol 14:34:15 <mailga> so we need a ML discussion with votes from cwickert, giannisk and lbazan. 14:34:36 <potty> Yes 14:34:45 <potty> That would be interesting 14:35:08 <potty> Im calling lbazan but he is not available 14:35:37 <mailga> #action mailga sending mail to ML asking votes from giannisk cwickert and lbazan for the chairman election between giannisk and potty. 14:35:46 <mailga> going ahead. 14:36:29 <mailga> #topic Action items from previous meetings 14:37:11 <mailga> did potty asked LATAM about the extra $50 on RP? 14:37:39 <potty> Yes 14:37:49 <potty> It will be corrected 14:37:58 <potty> But peo 14:38:04 <potty> People asked me 14:38:19 <potty> For a reference 14:38:27 <gnokii> potty: its not about correct 14:39:41 <potty> The calculations are based on previous years experience. Some people had to rent a place for the meeting and that increased the final amount. 14:40:12 <potty> But i told them that the rule was pretty clear and have to adjust. 14:40:41 <gnokii> potty its not about clear rule either 14:41:12 <potty> gnokii: ? 14:41:33 <gnokii> its about why its higher 14:43:30 <potty> Example: if I have rent a place to do the RP, it will be $40 per hour. 3 hours event is $120. 14:44:16 <gnokii> i dont need examples 14:44:17 <potty> But it not necessary will be liked that 14:44:49 <potty> It is a economic estimation of what we would need in the worst case scenario 14:45:04 <gnokii> and with your example, I would clearly say the shall stick to the rule 14:45:05 <potty> Nothing more nothing less 14:45:42 * mailga checks we have 15 min left for the meeting, so many things to see.... 14:46:05 <potty> gnokii: ok 14:46:31 <mailga> do we want to use ML to discuss the question? 14:46:50 <gnokii> ++ 14:46:58 <potty> +1 14:47:44 <mailga> #action potty will send mail to ML about extra RP cost. 14:47:49 <mailga> right? 14:48:16 <potty> ok 14:48:22 <mailga> going ahead 14:48:42 <mailga> next topic 14:48:46 <mailga> #topic Wiki gardening 14:49:00 <mailga> #undo 14:49:00 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Topic object at 0x2ae74610> 14:49:05 <mailga> sorry 14:49:12 <mailga> next topic 14:49:21 <mailga> #topic Tickets 14:49:40 <mailga> we need to wipe the tickets, there are some that doesn't need any decision in order to close them. For the others the better way is updating the ticket asking for a quick answer about the status. If no one update the ticket in a week, we'll vote for it at the next meeting. 14:50:21 <mailga> who wants take care of this? 14:50:55 <gnokii> I wanted to take care of it last weekend but they kept me really busy with mentoring 14:51:26 <mailga> gnokii: are you still available for this in the week? 14:52:14 <gnokii> I can try, but can nt say I finish it this week, have an event on saturday 14:52:58 <mailga> gnokii: can you ping me if you're not able? I'll take care of that if you can't. 14:53:07 <gnokii> mailga: yes 14:54:05 <mailga> #action gnokii to check and wipe tickets, if not able mailga will support. 14:54:13 <mailga> going ahead 14:54:16 <mailga> next topic 14:54:29 <mailga> #topic Wiki gardening 14:54:41 <mailga> There are some pages needing updates: 14:54:54 <mailga> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Sponsoring_event_attendees 14:55:05 <mailga> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_tasks 14:55:40 <mailga> who wants check the updates? 14:56:17 <mailga> I can take care of. 14:56:29 <potty> (: 14:57:11 <mailga> #action mailga take care of the update of the wiki pages. 14:57:19 <mailga> ahead 14:57:28 <mailga> next topic, the most important. 14:57:44 <mailga> #topic FOSCo settlement planning 14:57:58 <mailga> Who's going to take care of the things to do to set up FOSCo? 14:58:21 <gnokii> me 14:58:56 <mailga> gnokii: ok, so we start to think about fosco. 14:59:42 <mailga> #action gnokii takes care of FOSCo settlement planning. 14:59:45 <gnokii> its not about thinking its more about taking action 14:59:57 <mailga> gnokii: +1 15:00:31 <mailga> do you think you'll have something ready for the next meeting? 15:00:42 <potty> +1 15:01:48 <gnokii> mailga: sure 15:02:01 <mailga> gnokii ++ 15:02:16 <mailga> gnokii++ 15:02:17 <zodbot> mailga: Karma for gnokii changed to 6 (for the f23 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 15:02:22 <mailga> :-D 15:02:37 <mailga> ok going ahead 15:02:50 <mailga> #topic Open floor 15:03:23 <mailga> we should change the meeting planning on fedocal 15:03:38 <mailga> #link https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/ 15:04:06 <mailga> #action mailga will open a ticket https://fedorahosted.org/fedocal/report 15:04:09 <mailga> eof 15:04:19 <mailga> anything else? 15:04:43 <potty> No 15:05:19 <gnokii> not from my side 15:05:57 <mailga> ok, we're 5 min late. 15:06:04 <mailga> #endmeeting