14:00:27 <cwickert> #startmeeting FAmSCo 2016-07-12
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14:00:35 <cwickert> #meetingname famsco
14:00:35 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famsco'
14:00:42 <tuanta> .fas tuanta
14:00:43 <cwickert> #topic Roll call
14:00:43 <zodbot> tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' <tuanta@iwayvietnam.com>
14:00:48 <cwickert> .fas cwickert
14:00:49 <zodbot> cwickert: cwickert 'Christoph Wickert' <christoph.wickert@gmail.com>
14:01:16 <cwickert> #chair tuanta giannisk potty lbazan mailga gnokii
14:01:16 <zodbot> Current chairs: cwickert giannisk gnokii lbazan mailga potty tuanta
14:01:29 <tuanta> Hi cwickert
14:01:34 * cwickert waits a bit for the others to show up
14:01:41 <tuanta> +1
14:01:56 <potty> Hi cwickert tuanta
14:02:04 <tuanta> Hi potty
14:03:25 <giannisk> .fas giannisk
14:03:25 <zodbot> giannisk: giannisk 'Giannis Konstantinidis' <giannis@konstantinidis.cc>
14:03:31 * giannisk waves at everyone
14:04:00 * cwickert counts
14:04:08 <cwickert> anything from the others?
14:04:56 <potty> No
14:05:11 <cwickert> info 4/7 famsco members present and responsive, no regrets from the others
14:05:23 <cwickert> #info 4/7 famsco members present and responsive, no regrets from the others
14:05:38 * cwickert looks at the agenda
14:05:54 <giannisk> !
14:06:03 <cwickert> giannisk: speak up
14:06:25 <giannisk> I'm going to need FAmSCo's help to review tickets submitted for the EMEA Flock Sponsorship Program. :)
14:06:52 <giannisk> eof
14:07:28 <cwickert> giannisk: I need your help, too
14:07:38 <cwickert> giannisk: you said there were problems with the budget in EMEA
14:07:51 <giannisk> cwickert: correct, we're very tight
14:07:52 <cwickert> I looked through the meeting logs but couldn't find anything
14:08:08 <cwickert> giannisk: can you provide me with the relevant logs and tickets?
14:08:22 <giannisk> cwickert: surely, i can pm you later
14:08:25 <cwickert> thanks
14:09:04 <cwickert> #action giannisk to provide cwickert tickets and meeting logs about the budget problems in EMEA
14:09:12 <cwickert> ok, then on to our favorite topic
14:09:19 <cwickert> #topic FOSCo
14:09:20 <potty> Fosco?
14:09:24 <cwickert> .famsco 373
14:09:24 <zodbot> https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/373
14:09:42 <cwickert> so, I started a poll for a meeting slot
14:10:13 <cwickert> hi gnokii
14:10:18 <cwickert> the results are at http://whenisgood.net/fosco/results/gzbp7xk
14:10:23 <gnokii> he
14:10:23 <cwickert> so far 8 people responded
14:10:35 <cwickert> #info 5/7 members present
14:10:52 <gnokii> .fas gnokii
14:10:53 <zodbot> gnokii: gnokii 'Sirko Kemter' <buergermeister@karl-tux-stadt.de>
14:10:54 <cwickert> gnokii: we were just talking about FOSCo and the poll for a meeting
14:11:11 <cwickert> gnokii: you did not cast your vote yet. can you please do this now?
14:11:17 <cwickert> at http://whenisgood.net/fosco/
14:11:58 <cwickert> so far we did not find a slot that works for everybody
14:12:13 <cwickert> hi gnokii
14:12:52 <cwickert> so what you usually do when you cannot find a slot is to exclude the least flexible participants
14:13:20 <cwickert> means the ones who marked the least slots
14:13:31 <cwickert> and that is tuanta and potty. Sorry guys!
14:13:43 <cwickert> if we exclude these two, we have some slots
14:13:58 <potty> Which are the time slots now?
14:14:06 <tuanta> Which ones?
14:14:06 <cwickert> hold on
14:14:41 <cwickert> if we exclude only tuanta, then we can do it Monday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday at 15:00 local time
14:15:06 <cwickert> that should be 13:00 UTC if I'm not mistaken
14:15:37 <potty> It works for me. I will be from the mobile but able to attend.
14:15:51 <tuanta> It may work for me
14:16:25 <cwickert> and if we exclude noriko, we could do it Monday  to Friday at 14 UTC
14:16:37 <tuanta> I will get out of work sooner than usual
14:16:39 <cwickert> however I would prefer to not exclude her
14:16:49 <potty> Inam
14:16:55 <cwickert> but rather one of us as we have many FAmSCo people present
14:16:58 <potty> I am sorry who is noriko
14:17:48 <cwickert> potty: representative of l10n
14:17:54 <potty> Oh ok
14:18:04 <potty> I think we should not exclude representatived
14:18:08 <cwickert> so if we exclude her, we would exclude the wile team
14:18:13 <cwickert> right
14:18:14 <potty> If someone have to sacrifice must be us
14:18:24 <potty> Like some of us
14:18:29 <tuanta> 13:00 UTC seems be ok
14:18:32 <potty> But I am sure we all are going to make it
14:18:49 <tuanta> In a particular day
14:19:18 <cwickert> tuanta: any day you prefer?
14:19:56 <tuanta> Monday, cwickert
14:20:18 <cwickert> gnokii: guess you are traveling or otherwise have a flaky connection. we appreciate you keep trying. Do you have time on Monday 20:00?
14:20:51 <gnokii> yes, I should and no I dont travel not yet
14:21:09 <cwickert> gnokii: ok, thanks
14:22:05 <cwickert> #info the FOSCo brainstorming meeting will take place on Monday, July 18th at 13:00 UTC
14:22:16 <giannisk> cwickert++
14:22:18 <zodbot> giannisk: Karma for cwickert changed to 1 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
14:22:22 <cwickert> glad we were able to find a slot that works for all of us :)
14:22:38 <cwickert> #action cwickert to invite the greater public to the meeting
14:22:43 <potty> cwickert: good work!
14:22:54 <cwickert> #action cwickert to report progress to the council
14:23:02 <cwickert> ok, anything else on this?
14:23:08 <potty> cwickert: which is the greater public?
14:23:33 <cwickert> potty: the relevant teams in question by mail to their list
14:23:51 <potty> Ok
14:23:57 <potty> Understood
14:26:33 <giannisk> Moving on?
14:26:58 <cwickert> yes, sorry, got distracted by my boss :)
14:27:15 <giannisk> cwickert: np
14:27:19 <cwickert> #link https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Report_a_YaST_bug
14:27:35 <cwickert> anything you want to discuss in particular?
14:28:19 <cwickert> #topic Request to step down as mentor
14:28:24 <cwickert> .fas 395
14:28:26 <zodbot> cwickert: omni395 'Dmitriy' <contactmail@list.ru> - patrickm 'P M' <4371240395140312305615614104f3f3t34tg@mt2015.com> - sj403951 'john mark' <sj403951@gmail.com> - atulk2395 'Manoj Nirala' <atulk2395@gmail.com> - mark39550 'mark mary' <mark39550@gmail.com> - mrvon 'FengQiujun' <395228675@qq.com> - mrcool3951 'Jim Hall' <mrcool3951@gmail.com> - snk395 'steven kaplan' <snk395@gmail.com> - sxmiko 'miko song' (2 more messages)
14:28:32 <cwickert> oops
14:28:36 <cwickert> .famsco 395
14:28:36 <zodbot> https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/395
14:29:00 <cwickert> unfortunately I was not yet able to talk to robyduck
14:29:11 <cwickert> but I hope I can catch him this week
14:29:25 <tuanta> +1 cwickert
14:29:26 <cwickert> giannisk: thanks for commenting on that ticket btw
14:29:47 <cwickert> #action cwickert to talk to robyduck about #395
14:29:48 <giannisk> cwickert: took me some time, as I had totally forgotten about it, sorry
14:30:20 <cwickert> np
14:30:29 <cwickert> #topic Solution for over regional sponsoring
14:30:35 <cwickert> .famsco 394
14:30:35 <zodbot> https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/394
14:31:03 <cwickert> I'm afraid we dropped the ball there
14:32:05 <giannisk> I don't see why we try to over-complicate things
14:32:07 <cwickert> so, who is going to take the lead here?
14:32:11 <cwickert> giannisk++
14:32:11 <zodbot> cwickert: Karma for giannisk changed to 2 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
14:32:28 <potty> cwickert: i can
14:32:34 <giannisk> If there's an event within APAC, the budget should come from APAC.
14:32:41 <giannisk> ^For example.
14:32:48 <gnokii> haha
14:33:56 <giannisk> Does an EMEA contributor wish to travel to APAC to speak at an event? His/her funding would come from APAC's budget.
14:34:22 <giannisk> And so forth.
14:35:18 <potty> Following that line of thinking. If APAC does not have the budget, EMEA may sponsor or the contributor will not go to the event?
14:36:24 <potty> Now. Other thing. If we are having tight budget issues in all regions... From which budget are going to sponsor a contributor that wants to go the another region.
14:36:25 <giannisk> potty: We can surely have some sort of fail-safe, but the first place we're going to look would be the host region's budget.
14:36:41 <cwickert> the problem I see here
14:36:43 <cwickert> is
14:36:52 <gnokii> says the man who says I am not aware whats going on in EMEA, I hope you explain then kital that APAC cant afford his trip always to India
14:37:17 <cwickert> gnokii: I'm having problems following you
14:37:33 <cwickert> I think it's impossible to discuss this here right now
14:38:09 <cwickert> it seems most of us are in favor of not changing anything and deal with the cases individually
14:38:28 <potty> cwickert: it is difficult. As I mentioned before, we should set like 3 possible options and then vote on them.
14:38:37 <cwickert> only gnokii is strongly opposed, but he cannot really discuss with us due to his bad internet connection
14:38:53 <potty> Example: 1. The money come from the regiom holding the event
14:38:59 <potty> 2. The money come from
14:39:12 <potty> the region which contributor want to go
14:39:29 <potty> 3. The money come from a equally distributed pool.
14:39:58 <potty> From these 3 options I see exceptions for option 1 and 2
14:40:20 <potty> But it is as simple as that, i think....
14:41:17 <potty> Eof
14:41:39 <giannisk> potty: On option 3: you're referring to a pool for all kind of regional expenses? for both local and cross-regional?
14:42:01 <cwickert> can we stick to the proposals in the ticket?
14:42:32 * cwickert just commented on the ticket to answer mailga's question
14:43:01 <cwickert> I think we should continue in the ticket as gnokii is not here
14:43:06 <potty> cwickert: ok
14:43:16 <cwickert> just to give us a quick impression
14:43:23 <giannisk> Yes, we cannot reach an agreement right now
14:43:39 <potty> :)
14:43:42 <cwickert> who is in favor of what proposal right now?
14:43:53 * cwickert is for option #3 (case-by-case)
14:44:16 <cwickert> or "rule of thumb" if you will
14:44:19 <giannisk> cwickert: Shall we repeat/summarize the options again?
14:44:44 <cwickert> giannisk: let's stick to the descriptions and numbers from the ticket
14:45:03 <cwickert> this is not the final vote, I just want to get a rough overview of what most people think
14:45:15 <giannisk> #link https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/394#comment:11
14:45:45 <cwickert> thanks giannisk
14:46:07 <giannisk> Case-by-case works best for now, I believe.
14:46:08 <cwickert> potty, tuanta, giannisk: which of the options listed there would you prefer?
14:46:20 <giannisk> We don't have that many cross-regional spendings.
14:47:35 <potty> Rule of thumb
14:47:51 <tuanta> As I said in the ticket, I prefer #3
14:48:01 <cwickert> that is rule of thumb, too
14:48:09 <potty> Well we are mostly following option 3
14:48:12 <cwickert> seems we mostly agree
14:48:22 <potty> Should we vote on that on the ticket
14:48:23 <cwickert> therefor I suggest we call for a vote
14:48:27 <potty> And then document it
14:48:40 <potty> I would like to make the wiki page for that
14:48:51 <cwickert> yes, let's vote and tell the others to speak up if they want another solution
14:49:11 <tuanta> +1
14:49:19 <potty> +1
14:49:23 <cwickert> if gnokii wants the 50:50 thing, he has to come up with a clearly defined proposal on how it works
14:49:45 <cwickert> same goes for mailga's suggestion of the mutual fond
14:50:08 <potty> cwickert: deadline for voting?
14:50:21 <potty> And for gnokii and mailga suggestions
14:50:21 <cwickert> potty: one week I'd say
14:50:32 <tuanta> +1 a week
14:50:36 <potty> Starting from?
14:50:50 <cwickert> after this meeting, say 10 minutes + one week :)
14:51:03 <tuanta> :-)
14:51:22 <potty> :)
14:51:33 <potty> Jajaja
14:52:15 <cwickert> #agreed cast votes in the ticket with lazy consensus until 2016-07-19 15:00 UTC. During this week, mailga and gnokii can elaborate their proposals.
14:52:55 <cwickert> #topic Fedora 24 Ambassadors Team Tasks
14:53:01 <cwickert> .famsco 392
14:53:01 <zodbot> https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/392
14:53:07 <cwickert> potty: any updates?
14:53:16 <cwickert> anything we need to do?
14:53:28 <cwickert> I think we can just close this, F24 has been released
14:53:51 <giannisk> +1, in favor of closing
14:53:59 <potty> This should be closed
14:54:00 <cwickert> KISS
14:54:21 <tuanta> +1
14:54:27 <potty> +1
14:54:34 <cwickert> closed
14:54:39 <potty> Thank you
14:55:03 <cwickert> #topic FUDCon Latam Puno 2016
14:55:09 <cwickert> .famsco 388
14:55:09 <zodbot> https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/388
14:55:20 <cwickert> again I think this can be closed, can't it?
14:55:27 <potty> It will happen. So close it.
14:55:50 <tuanta> +1
14:55:56 <cwickert> potty: please close it and add a link to the ticket where the council approved it
14:56:08 <cwickert> #action potty to update #388 and close it
14:56:17 <potty> Ok
14:56:20 <giannisk> +1 for closing
14:56:52 <cwickert> #topic New CardHolder for Fedora-Latam
14:56:59 <cwickert> .famsco 385
14:56:59 <zodbot> https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/385
14:57:02 <potty> Close it
14:57:22 <potty> Because someone commented they would like only one card holder per region
14:57:30 <giannisk> potty: So the current cardholder remains? Is he able to fulfill his duties?
14:57:37 <potty> And the current one, Neville, is doing good his job
14:57:46 <giannisk> potty: Perfect :)
14:57:55 <potty> Thank you
14:57:56 <cwickert> we tried to get a 2nd card for EMEA and it was not possible, so I don't see a chance for LATAM either
14:58:07 <cwickert> who takes care of updating the ticket?
14:58:19 <potty> Me
14:58:28 <cwickert> cool, thanks
14:58:30 <giannisk> potty++
14:58:30 <zodbot> giannisk: Karma for potty changed to 1 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
14:58:37 <cwickert> #action potty to update #385 and close it
14:58:51 <potty> :)
14:59:00 <cwickert> #info current cardholder will continue, there will be no additional card
14:59:07 <tuanta> We cleanup a lot today :)
14:59:12 <cwickert> ok, I think that's enough for today
14:59:23 <cwickert> there are some more old tickets, but we can clean them up later
14:59:23 <potty> cwickert: is the ticket laundry master
14:59:31 <cwickert> in fact, giannisk is
14:59:44 <cwickert> giannisk: thanks for your constant nagging in the tickets!
14:59:56 <giannisk> cwickert: my pleasure
14:59:57 <potty> You are correct. He always naggs on them!
15:00:04 <potty> giannisk++
15:00:05 <zodbot> potty: Karma for giannisk changed to 3 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
15:00:06 <cwickert> ok, anything else for today?
15:00:13 <giannisk> !
15:00:20 <cwickert> oh, sorry giannisk
15:00:23 <cwickert> go ahead
15:00:26 <giannisk> cwickert: Thanks
15:00:29 <cwickert> you have full chair powers, too
15:00:48 <giannisk> cwickert: I'm aware, just making sure to keep a better flow of the discussions :)
15:01:05 <giannisk> So, I'm going to need everyone's help to review a couple of tickets for the EMEA Sponsorship Program for Flock
15:01:13 <tuanta> FUDCon APAC ticket should be opened. IIRC, there is not a fixed date, just October. Even it has been approved by Council.
15:01:33 <giannisk> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/ambassadors@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/OL5IU6FLNE6BVO25NYG3UBLUHRQBJ3WS/
15:01:54 <giannisk> #topic EMEA Sponsorship Program for Flock - Review Tickets
15:02:22 <giannisk> I have talked with our regional treasurer.
15:02:34 <giannisk> The money EMEA can allocate for this is about 1000 USD.
15:02:34 <potty> !
15:02:42 * cwickert reads...
15:02:57 <giannisk> So far, we have had only 4 submissions. And the deadline is since long gone.
15:03:50 <giannisk> We had done a similar program in 2014 where we sponsored 7 contributors with 2000 USD in total.
15:03:54 <giannisk> potty: feel free
15:04:01 <tuanta> Is that enough for those 4?
15:04:15 <potty> First. That. Is 1K enough?
15:04:32 <giannisk> tuanta: well, as I had initially stated in the announcement, we're going to provide partial subsidies.
15:04:32 <potty> Second. When are going to help you decide on those tickets?
15:04:58 <giannisk> We have 4 candidates, so that's 250 USD each at best
15:05:10 <potty> Eof
15:05:10 <giannisk> That's a good amount, yes.
15:05:25 <potty> Good :)
15:05:33 <potty> How about the date to decide?
15:05:36 <giannisk> About the second thing: well, right now :)
15:05:43 <tuanta> Then that should be fine. any problem here?
15:05:43 <potty> I imagine that
15:06:00 <giannisk> We've had only 4 candidates, so no problems at all with the budget.
15:06:16 <giannisk> Had we had more candidates, then I would need to ask the council for assistance.
15:06:20 <potty> giannisk: do the 4 candidates are active contributors?
15:06:34 <giannisk> potty: Let's review the tickets one by one :)
15:06:39 <potty> Ok
15:06:44 <potty> I am
15:06:51 * giannisk is checking the emea trac.
15:06:55 <potty> Able to help you out
15:07:20 <cwickert> https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/584
15:07:26 <cwickert> that is mailga
15:07:29 <cwickert> and that is a +1 from me
15:07:42 <cwickert> we want him for the "meet your FAmSCo" session
15:08:03 <giannisk> +1 for mailga
15:08:07 <potty> +1
15:08:22 <cwickert> #agreed sponsoring for mailga is approved
15:08:32 <cwickert> https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/585
15:08:35 <potty> cwickert: i will not be able to attend flock
15:08:46 <cwickert> that is nehardido
15:08:47 <giannisk> cwickert: Three votes from what I see
15:08:55 <giannisk> We need one more
15:09:02 <giannisk> ping tuanta
15:09:22 <cwickert> giannisk: ok
15:09:23 <tuanta> cwickert: I am not able to attend Flock too
15:09:33 <tuanta> +1 for mailga
15:09:43 <cwickert> ok, now we are save
15:09:44 <giannisk> Okay, mailga approves, four votes.
15:09:48 <cwickert> #undo
15:09:48 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Link object at 0x3d125810>
15:09:51 <giannisk> s/approves/approved
15:10:23 <cwickert> #agreed sponsoring for mailga is approved (+4)
15:10:29 <cwickert> now on to nehardido
15:10:37 <cwickert> I don't know him, so I cannot comment on that
15:10:39 <giannisk> To be honest, I don't know him
15:10:52 <potty> in the case we don't know the person
15:10:55 <tuanta> Sorry, I don't know this guy
15:11:00 <giannisk> Haven't seen him on the ambassadors list or during meetings.
15:11:03 <potty> first lets see his groups
15:11:10 <potty> .fasinfo nehardido
15:11:13 <zodbot> potty: User: nehardido, Name: Nehar Oussama Kheireddine, email: nehardido@gmail.com, Creation: 2012-09-20, IRC Nick: , Timezone: Africa/Algiers, Locale: en, GPG key ID: , Status: active
15:11:16 <zodbot> potty: Approved Groups: cla_fpca cla_done ambassadors
15:11:22 <giannisk> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Nehardido
15:11:26 <potty> he is just an ambassador
15:11:44 <tuanta> From Africa
15:11:47 <cwickert> hey, there is nothing wring with "just" being an ambassador
15:11:58 <potty> i did not mean that
15:11:59 <potty> in fact
15:12:00 <giannisk> On his wiki page he reports two events, release parties for F19 and F21.
15:12:06 <potty> i was about to ask something
15:12:15 <potty> is there any other active contributors in algeria?
15:12:23 <giannisk> His wiki page was last updated in October 2015.
15:12:24 * potty is sorry if got misunderstood
15:12:31 <cwickert> I'm conflicted about this
15:12:35 <potty> giannisk: ^
15:13:05 <cwickert> I mean, he's in the project for almost 4 year, but I've never heard of him
15:13:14 <giannisk> what cwickert said
15:13:23 <potty> My point is, if he is the only active Algerian contributor, let's embrace him and make him participate more within EMEA stuff.
15:13:44 <potty> I see this as an opportunity for him.
15:13:51 <cwickert> ah, hold on
15:13:52 <cwickert> https://plus.google.com/+OussamaKheireddineNehar/posts
15:14:08 <cwickert> I *think* I know him
15:14:24 <tuanta> I prefer to support a guy from Africa (in EMEA). We need to promote that new continental
15:14:45 <cwickert> but maybe it's just the polo that looks familiar :)
15:15:25 <potty> But, if we need to be really sure then let's try to contact him and know him before approving his ticket.
15:15:40 <giannisk> I agree it's important to include people from less-represented (Fedora) areas as well. But I don't really see any recent contributions from him.
15:15:44 <cwickert> giannisk: can you take care of this? You have been in contact with him before
15:16:02 <giannisk> cwickert: Well, I haven't been in contact with him. I told you I don't know him.
15:16:08 <giannisk> But I can reach out to him.
15:16:15 <giannisk> Find out more about his plans to participate at Flock.
15:16:55 <cwickert> I'm afraid it will be difficult to get him to FLOCk
15:17:10 <cwickert> he needs an invitation letter and a visum
15:17:17 <giannisk> I'm also not quite sure if he needs a travel authorization to travel to Flock.
15:17:19 <giannisk> Exactly
15:17:25 <giannisk> We have less than a month left.
15:17:37 <cwickert> and I know how difficult this is because I once had to do it for our friends from Albania
15:18:11 <cwickert> if we approve this, we need to hurry up and we need somebody to actively take care of it
15:18:27 <giannisk> Okay, let me speak with him and find out more.
15:18:34 <cwickert> and given that decause is no longer working for RH, I'm not too optimistic...
15:18:39 <giannisk> And will get back to you as soon as I have more information.
15:18:52 <potty> cwickert: are we able to vote on this guy tickets after this meeting?
15:19:00 <potty> when giannisk returns with more info about him?
15:19:03 <cwickert> giannisk: otherwise jzb is your man
15:19:05 <giannisk> It's going to be hard for him, I'm aware, but at least he needs to be given a chance.
15:19:18 <giannisk> To explain himself, that ids
15:19:22 <giannisk> s/ids/is
15:19:32 <cwickert> giannisk: ok, please cc me
15:19:36 <giannisk> cwickert: surely
15:19:46 <potty> :)
15:19:57 <cwickert> #action giannisk to reach out to nehardido, ask for more info and explain the difficulties on our side
15:20:06 <giannisk> cwickert: perfect
15:20:10 <cwickert> https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/586
15:20:15 <cwickert> that is giannisk himself
15:20:17 <cwickert> +1
15:20:36 <potty> +1
15:20:38 <potty> totally
15:20:38 <cwickert> potty, tuanta: ?
15:20:43 <giannisk> Yeap, I have explained everything on the ticket.
15:20:59 <giannisk> I don't feel like voting for my own ticket.
15:21:05 <tuanta> +1
15:21:07 <potty> you don't need explanations, you need to go
15:21:20 <cwickert> giannisk: right, that's why we don't get a majority for you
15:21:25 <giannisk> So I'm going to ask from other FAmSCo members (not present) to review it.
15:21:41 <cwickert> I suggest we just use lazy consensus here
15:21:44 <giannisk> mailga, lbazan and gnokii
15:21:59 <potty> yup
15:22:00 <giannisk> cwickert: Lazy consensus works as well, +1
15:22:01 <potty> good idea
15:22:02 <potty> +1
15:22:09 <tuanta> Take more time :(
15:22:19 <cwickert> giannisk: just go ahead with your planning and if nobody speaks up within one week, +3 is enugh
15:22:26 <potty> cwickert: +1
15:22:36 <giannisk> Perfect, thanks everyone.
15:22:48 * mailga sorry work issues....
15:22:54 <cwickert> ha!
15:22:55 * mailga reading back
15:23:00 <tuanta> Hi
15:23:13 <potty> hi mailga!
15:23:18 <cwickert> mailga: we just approved your sponsorship request, now we are discussing giannisk's
15:23:35 <potty> vote +1 for having giannisk been partially sponsored going to Flock
15:23:43 <mailga> thanks for the approval guys.
15:23:44 <potty> mailga: ^
15:24:10 <cwickert> mailga: do you think we should approve giannisk's request? so far we have +3 and no negative votes.
15:24:36 <mailga> cwickert: I'm checking the ticket just now
15:25:39 <mailga> giannisk no amounts?
15:25:53 <cwickert> good point
15:25:56 <giannisk> mailga: It's going to be a partial sponsorship for everyone.
15:26:03 <cwickert> giannisk: how much?
15:26:16 <giannisk> As I said earlier in the meeting, we have 1k available.
15:26:24 <giannisk> 4 candidates, so 250 USD each at best
15:26:25 <potty> 250USD each (4 tickets), because the have allocated 1000USD
15:26:47 <giannisk> I'm good to cover the rest from my own pocket.
15:27:09 <potty> if nerhardido is not approved then is 250USD more available for the approved tickets.
15:27:49 <tuanta> giannisk: amount should be added
15:27:49 <giannisk> potty: If nerhardido can't/won't come, it's going to be up to 333 USD per candidate, for 3 candidates.
15:28:06 <potty> giannisk: correct
15:28:28 <giannisk> tuanta: Does it?
15:28:42 <cwickert> mailga: more questions or can you make a decision now?
15:28:52 <mailga> I'm for a +1
15:29:00 <cwickert> #agreed sponoring for giannisk is approved (+4/0/-)
15:29:07 <cwickert> https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/587
15:29:09 <giannisk> I don't have an actual figure of my expenses right now, but I'm totally fine with the partial sponsorship. I'm going to cover the rest from my own pocket.
15:29:13 <giannisk> Thanks everyone.
15:29:16 <cwickert> that is jonatoni
15:29:25 <cwickert> +1
15:29:32 <giannisk> +1
15:29:36 <mailga> +1
15:29:40 <cwickert> she is very active in her local community AND she does a lot of outreach stuff
15:29:52 <cwickert> definitely something we want to support
15:29:55 <potty> +1
15:29:57 <tuanta> Another problem: it's hard to reimburse with partially sponsorship (hard to match receipts)
15:30:10 <tuanta> +1 too
15:30:21 <giannisk> tuanta: We haven't had any issues in the past EMEA Sponsorship Program back in 2014.
15:30:28 <mailga> jonatomi will be a very good amby in perspective.
15:30:30 <giannisk> It was exactly the same case as right now.
15:30:36 <tuanta> Good
15:30:49 <cwickert> #agreed sponoring for jonatoni is approved (+5)
15:30:55 <cwickert> ok, thanks everybody
15:31:04 <giannisk> Thanks everyone for helping
15:31:12 <jflory7> ! (for open floor, idea for communicating FOSCo open meeting)
15:31:22 <cwickert> hi jflory7, welcome!
15:31:28 <cwickert> #topic Open floor
15:31:34 <jflory7> Ah, perfect timing :P
15:31:36 * mailga waves to Justin
15:31:42 * jflory7 waves back
15:31:55 <tuanta> Have a good trip, guys :)
15:32:06 <jflory7> I was just now catching up on scrollback and was reading about the approved date for the FOSCo meeting for this Monday.
15:32:34 <jflory7> I think it would be a good idea to get a short blurb / post written up on the Community Blog to get the word out (along with the regular mailing list posts).
15:33:00 <jflory7> Wouldn't need to be long or even that detailed, but a short idea of what's going to be discussed, why it's important, and how to participate and when.
15:33:13 <cwickert> great idea
15:33:20 <cwickert> who wants to work on it?
15:33:33 <jflory7> I don't have the cycles to write it all myself, but I can help expedite getting it published ASAP if I have a draft to work with.
15:33:36 * cwickert is busy, but can help out a little
15:33:53 <cwickert> jflory7: ok, I'll provide a draft then
15:33:54 <tuanta> +1
15:33:57 <giannisk> I can help as well, but no promises made
15:34:10 <giannisk> s/can/might be able to
15:34:26 <cwickert> #action cwickert and giannisk work with jflory7 to promote the FOSCo brainstorm meeting
15:34:39 <cwickert> ok, thanks for that excellent idea
15:34:43 <cwickert> anything else?
15:34:44 <jflory7> Yeah, if someone can just log into the CommBlog, put together maybe two or three paragraphs summing the above info up, we can push it out today or tomorrow. But definitely sooner than later since it's coming up so soon
15:34:50 <jflory7> cwickert++ giannisk++
15:34:50 <zodbot> jflory7: Karma for cwickert changed to 2 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
15:34:53 <mailga> jflory7: timing for a draft?
15:34:53 <zodbot> jflory7: Karma for giannisk changed to 4 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
15:35:05 <cwickert> jflory7: if you let me know where to log in, I'll look at it
15:35:20 <jflory7> mailga: I think it'd be best if we could publish it by late Thursday at the absolute latest (would rather push it sooner).
15:35:21 <cwickert> jflory7: let's do it tonight
15:35:24 <jflory7> Sure, one second, cwickert
15:35:30 <cwickert> ok, thanks
15:35:37 <cwickert> anything else for the meeting?
15:35:53 * cwickert will close the meeting in 3 minutes...
15:35:55 <jflory7> cwickert: You can log in here with FAS, and then from there, it's just normal WordPress. You should have permissions to write a new post by default. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/wp-login.php
15:36:42 <mailga> jflory7: this time I'm not able to help, tomorrow I'll be out all day long and Thursday could be too late for give a hand.
15:36:47 <giannisk> jflory7: this Thursday?
15:36:50 <jflory7> cwickert: For the fastest response, once you have it done, you can ping me in #fedora-commops or if I'm not online, jflory7@fedoraproject.org.
15:36:52 <cwickert> jflory7: ok, I'll ping you later tonight
15:37:06 <cwickert> #fedora-commops should do
15:37:15 <jflory7> mailga: Understood, no worries.
15:37:35 <jflory7> giannisk: I think as soon as it's ready, we can push it right away to get the word out. Maybe to social media too.
15:37:39 <jflory7> cwickert: Perfect, sounds good!
15:37:45 <jflory7> Nothing more from me. :)
15:37:54 * cwickert will close the meeting in 1 minute...
15:38:06 <jflory7> Thanks all for jumping on this! I'm excited for next Monday.
15:38:10 <mailga> jflory7: commblog or even fedmag?
15:38:55 <jflory7> mailga: We could publish it faster on the CommBlog - maybe could try doing something for Magazine for Friday, as a pointer post - but that's something I could probably help out with if we want to go with Magazine
15:39:11 <jflory7> Actually, I could probably write a brief pointer post on the Magazine too to the full CommBlog article
15:39:13 <cwickert> #endmeeting