#meeting-1:fedoraproject.org log

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:10:53

!startmeeting fedora_cloud_meeting

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

16:10:55

Meeting started at 2025-01-16 16:10:53 UTC

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

16:10:55

The Meeting name is 'fedora_cloud_meeting'

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:11:50

!topic roll call

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:13:55

!topic Action items from last meeting

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:14:09

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

16:14:12

Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his

<@aggraxis:fedora.im>

16:14:22

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

16:14:23

Paul Maconi (aggraxis) - he / him / his

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:14:26

Conan Kudo: thanks for dropping in.

<@aggraxis:fedora.im>

16:14:31

I'm just watching, please don't mind me :)

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:14:36

Hey Paul Maconi (Aggraxis)

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:15:12

I am going to leave off the business from last meeting and call it catch up from having been away for a while

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:15:50

We need to wipe the slate clean and go forward. We have a bit to cover.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:16:05

!topic WSL progress

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:17:10

Conan Kudo: have you seen any blockers on the work that's being completed with the WSL?

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:17:46

I think at this point we just need to have the OOBE stuff sorted out

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:17:57

and decide how that's supposed to work

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:18:04

do we have a tracker on it?

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:18:10

I don't think so?

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:18:55

I'll put something together so we have an opportunity to inform more people on status and momentum.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:19:20

!action davdunc to set up a tracker for WSL effort.

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:20:23

we do have the WSL image ticket

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:20:32

I suppose we can use that as a starting point for tracking this

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:20:53

okay. yea. let's not duplicate the trackers.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:21:04

we just need to make sure it's getting tracked.

<@jcline:fedora.im>

16:21:15

Works for me. I'm planning on spending some time on it next week, hopefully get everything sorted out.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:21:21

:ocean: Jeremy Cline

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:21:32

awesome.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:22:38

!link https://pagure.io/cloud-sig/issue/408

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:22:55

I'll add the meeting flag so we review until complete.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:23:33

!link https://pagure.io/cloud-sig/issue/412

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:24:10

awesome.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:24:36

I have added the meeting flag for tracking the effort.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:25:46

anything you want to identify there Jeremy Cline ?

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:26:04

or you need something from us?

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:27:49

anything that isn't clearing up fast enough for you or can we help with documentation, etc?

<@jcline:fedora.im>

16:27:55

Currently the only pressing issue I'm aware of is the systemd-firstboot situation (we can't turn it off quite like we do for cloud images since we don't control the kernel cmdline). There's some work around getting the graphics bits working which I've not looked at enough to fully document requirements, but I should at least get a ticket written for that next week

<@jcline:fedora.im>

16:28:43

Patrick Lang has been working on some tests which is real nice, currently just manually run but a stretch goal could be to get some automation around that

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:29:10

make sure he gets all the cookies for doing the tests!

<@jcline:fedora.im>

16:29:20

We also do need documentation, I'm not sure whether it should live under the cloud docs (if those exist) or somewhere else

<@jcline:fedora.im>

16:29:53

I guess an action item for me could be to write up the outstanding things we need in detail

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:29:58

I have started in on cloud documentation a couple of times, but I'll call it a new years resolution for this year.

<@jcline:fedora.im>

16:30:07

(well, need + nice stretch goals)

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:30:15

I'll work with you on that.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:30:38

!action davdunc to build documentation for wsl

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:30:42

I'll own that.

<@jcline:fedora.im>

16:30:54

Awesome, thanks

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:31:03

okay.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:31:26

!topic Amazon Image Naming is causing the console discovery to fail.

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:31:59

that's controlled by the uploader, right?

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:32:00

I am working with the internal teams to try and use our tags, but the console discovery is by regex on the old naming scheme.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:32:08

yea.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:33:20

As a result of the work there, the only images that are discovered in the console as Fedora images are the marketplace images i publish and the SupportedImages public images.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:35:44

so we need to update the configuration. I am also working on building support for metadata with the EC2 images team to help that along without needing to worry about the naming.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:36:22

We also have the ability to add the global naming by using the SSM AMI Parameters and we haven't added that to our process yet.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:36:57

That last statement is more of a backlog until after the GCP work is completed.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:38:02

we don't have a tracker for this one either, but it covers all of the editions too.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:38:02

so I want to make sure that we resolve it and get our visibility up.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:38:14

GCP is priority from a "change to the uploader" perspective to me.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:39:04

Conan Kudo or Jeremy Cline Paul Maconi (Aggraxis), anything you want to address directly?

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:40:02

as y'all know, we started a countdown to shutdown usage of imagefactory in fedora when we switched to kiwi in f40 for cloud images

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:40:12

we're almost at the end of that for f42

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:40:38

there are two fedora variants left that use imgfac: fedora scientific and fedora sugar on a stick

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:40:47

!topic shutdown imagefactory

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:41:17

Conan Kudo: do you want to schedule some time together next week to knock that out?

<@jcline:fedora.im>

16:41:23

Nothing from me

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:41:28

yeah

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:41:30

I can do anything after wednesday.

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:41:42

I've got the PR made for Fedora Scientific

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:41:44

!link https://pagure.io/fedora-kiwi-descriptions/pull-request/125

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:41:44

Jeremy Cline thanks.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:42:06

oh snap! do we have someone to hit up on that?

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:42:22

I tried pinging the person who answered the keepalive

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:42:27

but so far no response

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:43:17

I also want to see if I can move the remaining KDE-based labs to kiwi as well, then I can clean up the fedora-kickstarts repo significantly

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:45:02

right now, technically the kde sig has to maintain the kickstarts and the kiwi definitions because derived labs use the kickstarts

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:45:12

and I'd rather just nope out of it

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:45:31

I like that as a plan.

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:45:40

oh, and there's the Workstation migration to kiwi, which is blocked on testing the kde rawhide arm images on various SBCs

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:46:05

Though I like the idea of having the kickstarts maintained as a reference, I am not gonna do it. :D

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:46:26

!link https://pagure.io/pungi-fedora/pull-request/1419

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:46:38

dropping the kde kickstarts is a nice-to-have

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:46:39

cool.

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:46:40

not a must

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:46:43

thanks.

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:46:58

I don't have much more bandwidth anyway, so I'm just trying to prioritize the important stuff

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:47:09

makes sense.

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:47:24

the thing about SoaS is that it's maintained by Peter Robinson, and I'm not sure how to approach him about this

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:47:30

he's... tetchy

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:48:30

I already ported SoaS to the kiwi descriptions years ago

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:48:48

aaah

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

16:48:57

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

16:48:58

Neil Hanlon (neil) - he / him / his

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:49:00

but he's not a fan of things I've made

<@nhanlon:beeper.com>

16:49:04

better late than never ;)

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:49:15

so I don't really know how to broach this without it turning into a mess

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:49:15

Hey Neil Hanlon

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:49:25

and I need this done before branching

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:50:12

Well I appreciate that Peter is working to adapt to new roles lately. I don't want to rock that boat too much just yet.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:50:42

So we have some big blockers on that front.

<@balakondareddy:fedora.im>

16:50:43

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

16:50:45

Bala Konda Reddy Mekala (balakondareddy)

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:50:55

hello Bala

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:51:00

welcome

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:51:50

I'll ask him about it Conan Kudo

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:52:04

see what I can do to help him out.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:52:38

!topic open floor

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:53:03

Devconf proposals everybody!

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:53:41

Let's have a solid presence at Devconf and Flock. I plan to stay upright at Flock this year.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:54:02

It's my _other_ New Year's resolution.

<@balakondareddy:fedora.im>

16:54:49

My name is Bala, I work at microsoft. I am interested in testing fedora cloud images on azure. I am exploring options with openqa and lisa framework(https://github.com/microsoft/lisa). I had a chat with Adamw, still learning about openqa. I will reach out to fedora-cloud group. Looking forward to meeting virtually.

<@balakondareddy:fedora.im>

16:54:49

I am joining the cloud meeting for the first time.

<@balakondareddy:fedora.im>

16:54:49

hello

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:55:06

Hi Bala! That's awesome

<@conan_kudo:matrix.org>

16:55:16

nice, welcome!

<@balakondareddy:fedora.im>

16:55:31

Thank you

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:55:58

we are looking forward to making sure you have what you need, so don't hesitate to flag us down.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:56:13

we are a team and you are on it!

<@balakondareddy:fedora.im>

16:56:51

Thank you and will reach out the group for any help and assistance. Looking forward to it.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:57:10

Also, I love those tools. I have been watching them evolve for years.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:58:23

!info welcome Bala to the cloud team and QA efforts.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:59:00

!info Get your devconf and Flock proposals ready.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:59:15

if anyone needs to discuss it, let me know.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:59:23

okay. . . we are out of time.

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:59:29

thanks everyone for being here!

<@davdunc:fedora.im>

16:59:42

!endmeeting