2025-01-16 16:10:53 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !startmeeting fedora_cloud_meeting
2025-01-16 16:10:55 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2025-01-16 16:10:53 UTC
2025-01-16 16:10:55 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'fedora_cloud_meeting'
2025-01-16 16:11:50 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !topic roll call
2025-01-16 16:13:55 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !topic Action items from last meeting
2025-01-16 16:14:09 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !hi
2025-01-16 16:14:12 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Neal Gompa (ngompa) - he / him / his
2025-01-16 16:14:22 <@aggraxis:fedora.im> !hi
2025-01-16 16:14:23 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Paul Maconi (aggraxis) - he / him / his
2025-01-16 16:14:26 <@davdunc:fedora.im> Conan Kudo: thanks for dropping in. 
2025-01-16 16:14:31 <@aggraxis:fedora.im> I'm just watching, please don't mind me :)
2025-01-16 16:14:36 <@davdunc:fedora.im> Hey Paul Maconi (Aggraxis) 
2025-01-16 16:15:12 <@davdunc:fedora.im> I am going to leave off the business from last meeting and call it catch up from having been away for a while 
2025-01-16 16:15:50 <@davdunc:fedora.im> We need to wipe the slate clean and go forward. We have a bit to cover. 
2025-01-16 16:16:05 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !topic WSL progress
2025-01-16 16:17:10 <@davdunc:fedora.im> Conan Kudo: have you seen any blockers on the work that's being completed with the WSL? 
2025-01-16 16:17:46 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I think at this point we just need to have the OOBE stuff sorted out
2025-01-16 16:17:57 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> and decide how that's supposed to work
2025-01-16 16:18:04 <@davdunc:fedora.im> do we have a tracker on it? 
2025-01-16 16:18:10 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I don't think so?
2025-01-16 16:18:55 <@davdunc:fedora.im> I'll put something together so we have an opportunity to inform more people on status and momentum. 
2025-01-16 16:19:20 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !action davdunc to set up a tracker for WSL effort. 
2025-01-16 16:20:23 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> we do have the WSL image ticket
2025-01-16 16:20:32 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I suppose we can use that as a starting point for tracking this
2025-01-16 16:20:53 <@davdunc:fedora.im> okay. yea. let's not duplicate the trackers. 
2025-01-16 16:21:04 <@davdunc:fedora.im> we just need to make sure it's getting tracked. 
2025-01-16 16:21:15 <@jcline:fedora.im> Works for me. I'm planning on spending some time on it next week, hopefully get everything sorted out.
2025-01-16 16:21:21 <@davdunc:fedora.im> :ocean: Jeremy Cline 
2025-01-16 16:21:32 <@davdunc:fedora.im> awesome. 
2025-01-16 16:22:38 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !link https://pagure.io/cloud-sig/issue/408
2025-01-16 16:22:55 <@davdunc:fedora.im> I'll add the meeting flag so we review until complete. 
2025-01-16 16:23:33 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !link https://pagure.io/cloud-sig/issue/412
2025-01-16 16:24:10 <@davdunc:fedora.im> awesome. 
2025-01-16 16:24:36 <@davdunc:fedora.im> I have added the meeting flag for tracking the effort. 
2025-01-16 16:25:46 <@davdunc:fedora.im> anything you want to identify there Jeremy Cline ? 
2025-01-16 16:26:04 <@davdunc:fedora.im> or you need something from us? 
2025-01-16 16:27:49 <@davdunc:fedora.im> anything that isn't clearing up fast enough for you or can we help with documentation, etc? 
2025-01-16 16:27:55 <@jcline:fedora.im> Currently the only pressing issue I'm aware of is the systemd-firstboot situation (we can't turn it off quite like we do for cloud images since we don't control the kernel cmdline). There's some work around getting the graphics bits working which I've not looked at enough to fully document requirements, but I should at least get a ticket written for that next week
2025-01-16 16:28:43 <@jcline:fedora.im> Patrick Lang has been working on some tests which is real nice, currently just manually run but a stretch goal could be to get some automation around that
2025-01-16 16:29:10 <@davdunc:fedora.im> make sure he gets all the cookies for doing the tests! 
2025-01-16 16:29:20 <@jcline:fedora.im> We also do need documentation, I'm not sure whether it should live under the cloud docs (if those exist) or somewhere else
2025-01-16 16:29:53 <@jcline:fedora.im> I guess an action item for me could be to write up the outstanding things we need in detail
2025-01-16 16:29:58 <@davdunc:fedora.im> I have started in on cloud documentation a couple of times, but I'll call it a new years resolution for this year. 
2025-01-16 16:30:07 <@jcline:fedora.im> (well, need + nice stretch goals)
2025-01-16 16:30:15 <@davdunc:fedora.im> I'll work with you on that. 
2025-01-16 16:30:38 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !action davdunc to build documentation for wsl 
2025-01-16 16:30:42 <@davdunc:fedora.im> I'll own that. 
2025-01-16 16:30:54 <@jcline:fedora.im> Awesome, thanks
2025-01-16 16:31:03 <@davdunc:fedora.im> okay. 
2025-01-16 16:31:26 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !topic Amazon Image Naming is causing the console discovery to fail. 
2025-01-16 16:31:59 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> that's controlled by the uploader, right?
2025-01-16 16:32:00 <@davdunc:fedora.im> I am working with the internal teams to try and use our tags, but  the console discovery is by regex on the old naming scheme. 
2025-01-16 16:32:08 <@davdunc:fedora.im> yea. 
2025-01-16 16:33:20 <@davdunc:fedora.im> As a result of the work there, the only images that are discovered in the console as Fedora images are the marketplace images i publish and the SupportedImages public images. 
2025-01-16 16:35:44 <@davdunc:fedora.im> so we need to update the configuration. I am also working on building support for metadata with the EC2 images team to help that along without needing to worry about the naming. 
2025-01-16 16:36:22 <@davdunc:fedora.im> We also have the ability to add the global naming by using the SSM AMI Parameters and we haven't added that to our process yet. 
2025-01-16 16:36:57 <@davdunc:fedora.im> That last statement is more of a backlog until after the GCP work is completed. 
2025-01-16 16:38:02 <@davdunc:fedora.im> we don't have a tracker for this one either, but it covers all of the editions too. 
2025-01-16 16:38:02 <@davdunc:fedora.im> so I want to make sure that we resolve it and get our visibility up. 
2025-01-16 16:38:14 <@davdunc:fedora.im> GCP is priority from a "change to the uploader" perspective to me. 
2025-01-16 16:39:04 <@davdunc:fedora.im> Conan Kudo or Jeremy Cline Paul Maconi (Aggraxis), anything you want to address directly? 
2025-01-16 16:40:02 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> as y'all know, we started a countdown to shutdown usage of imagefactory in fedora when we switched to kiwi in f40 for cloud images
2025-01-16 16:40:12 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> we're almost at the end of that for f42
2025-01-16 16:40:38 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> there are two fedora variants left that use imgfac: fedora scientific and fedora sugar on a stick
2025-01-16 16:40:47 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !topic shutdown imagefactory
2025-01-16 16:41:17 <@davdunc:fedora.im> Conan Kudo: do you want to schedule some time together next week to knock that out? 
2025-01-16 16:41:23 <@jcline:fedora.im> Nothing from me
2025-01-16 16:41:28 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> yeah
2025-01-16 16:41:30 <@davdunc:fedora.im> I can do anything after wednesday. 
2025-01-16 16:41:42 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I've got the PR made for Fedora Scientific
2025-01-16 16:41:44 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !link https://pagure.io/fedora-kiwi-descriptions/pull-request/125
2025-01-16 16:41:44 <@davdunc:fedora.im> Jeremy Cline thanks. 
2025-01-16 16:42:06 <@davdunc:fedora.im> oh snap! do we have someone to hit up on that? 
2025-01-16 16:42:22 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I tried pinging the person who answered the keepalive
2025-01-16 16:42:27 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> but so far no response
2025-01-16 16:43:17 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I also want to see if I can move the remaining KDE-based labs to kiwi as well, then I can clean up the fedora-kickstarts repo significantly
2025-01-16 16:45:02 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> right now, technically the kde sig has to maintain the kickstarts and the kiwi definitions because derived labs use the kickstarts
2025-01-16 16:45:12 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> and I'd rather just nope out of it
2025-01-16 16:45:31 <@davdunc:fedora.im> I like that as a plan. 
2025-01-16 16:45:40 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> oh, and there's the Workstation migration to kiwi, which is blocked on testing the kde rawhide arm images on various SBCs
2025-01-16 16:46:05 <@davdunc:fedora.im> Though I like the idea of having the kickstarts maintained as a reference, I am not gonna do it. :D
2025-01-16 16:46:26 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> !link https://pagure.io/pungi-fedora/pull-request/1419
2025-01-16 16:46:38 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> dropping the kde kickstarts is a nice-to-have
2025-01-16 16:46:39 <@davdunc:fedora.im> cool. 
2025-01-16 16:46:40 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> not a must
2025-01-16 16:46:43 <@davdunc:fedora.im> thanks. 
2025-01-16 16:46:58 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I don't have much more bandwidth anyway, so I'm just trying to prioritize the important stuff
2025-01-16 16:47:09 <@davdunc:fedora.im> makes sense. 
2025-01-16 16:47:24 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> the thing about SoaS is that it's maintained by Peter Robinson, and I'm not sure how to approach him about this
2025-01-16 16:47:30 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> he's... tetchy
2025-01-16 16:48:30 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> I already ported SoaS to the kiwi descriptions years ago
2025-01-16 16:48:48 <@davdunc:fedora.im> aaah
2025-01-16 16:48:57 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> !hi
2025-01-16 16:48:58 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Neil Hanlon (neil) - he / him / his
2025-01-16 16:49:00 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> but he's not a fan of things I've made
2025-01-16 16:49:04 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> better late than never ;) 
2025-01-16 16:49:15 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> so I don't really know how to broach this without it turning into a mess
2025-01-16 16:49:15 <@davdunc:fedora.im> Hey Neil Hanlon 
2025-01-16 16:49:25 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> and I need this done before branching
2025-01-16 16:50:12 <@davdunc:fedora.im> Well I appreciate that Peter is working to adapt to new roles lately. I don't want to rock that boat too much just yet. 
2025-01-16 16:50:42 <@davdunc:fedora.im> So we have some big blockers on that front. 
2025-01-16 16:50:43 <@balakondareddy:fedora.im> !hi
2025-01-16 16:50:45 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Bala Konda Reddy Mekala (balakondareddy)
2025-01-16 16:50:55 <@davdunc:fedora.im> hello Bala 
2025-01-16 16:51:00 <@davdunc:fedora.im> welcome
2025-01-16 16:51:50 <@davdunc:fedora.im> I'll ask him about it Conan Kudo 
2025-01-16 16:52:04 <@davdunc:fedora.im> see what I can do to help him out. 
2025-01-16 16:52:38 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !topic open floor
2025-01-16 16:53:03 <@davdunc:fedora.im> Devconf proposals everybody! 
2025-01-16 16:53:41 <@davdunc:fedora.im> Let's have a solid presence at Devconf and Flock. I plan to stay upright at Flock this year. 
2025-01-16 16:54:02 <@davdunc:fedora.im> It's my _other_ New Year's resolution. 
2025-01-16 16:54:49 <@balakondareddy:fedora.im> My name is Bala, I work at microsoft. I am interested in testing fedora cloud images on azure. I am exploring options with openqa and lisa framework(https://github.com/microsoft/lisa). I had a chat with Adamw, still learning about openqa. I will reach out to fedora-cloud group. Looking forward to meeting virtually.
2025-01-16 16:54:49 <@balakondareddy:fedora.im> I am joining the cloud meeting for the first time.
2025-01-16 16:54:49 <@balakondareddy:fedora.im> hello 
2025-01-16 16:55:06 <@davdunc:fedora.im> Hi Bala! That's awesome
2025-01-16 16:55:16 <@conan_kudo:matrix.org> nice, welcome!
2025-01-16 16:55:31 <@balakondareddy:fedora.im> Thank you
2025-01-16 16:55:58 <@davdunc:fedora.im> we are looking forward to making sure you have what you need, so don't hesitate to flag us down. 
2025-01-16 16:56:13 <@davdunc:fedora.im> we are a team and you are on it! 
2025-01-16 16:56:51 <@balakondareddy:fedora.im> Thank you and will reach out the group for any help and assistance. Looking forward to it.
2025-01-16 16:57:10 <@davdunc:fedora.im> Also, I love those tools. I have been watching them evolve for years. 
2025-01-16 16:58:23 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !info welcome Bala to the cloud team and QA efforts. 
2025-01-16 16:59:00 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !info Get your devconf and Flock proposals ready. 
2025-01-16 16:59:15 <@davdunc:fedora.im> if anyone needs to discuss it, let me know. 
2025-01-16 16:59:23 <@davdunc:fedora.im> okay. . . we are out of time. 
2025-01-16 16:59:29 <@davdunc:fedora.im> thanks everyone for being here! 
2025-01-16 16:59:42 <@davdunc:fedora.im> !endmeeting