<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:35:23
!startmeeting fedora_coreos_meeting
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:35:25
Meeting started at 2023-11-22 16:35:23 UTC
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:35:25
The Meeting name is 'fedora_coreos_meeting'
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:35:38
!topic roll call
<@fifofonix:matrix.org>
16:35:47
hi
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:37:01
!user hello siosm
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:37:03
Timothée Ravier (siosm) - he / him / his
<@fifofonix:matrix.org>
16:37:34
!user hello fifofonix
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:37:35
Fifo Phonics (fifofonix)
<@ydesouza:fedora.im>
16:37:59
!user hello ydesouza
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:38:00
Yasmin Valim de Souza (ydesouza)
<@gurssing:matrix.org>
16:39:06
!user hello gurssing
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:39:08
Sorry, but Fedora Accounts user 'gurssing' does not exist
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:39:11
!user hello jlebon
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:39:12
None (jlebon)
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:39:36
sweet, I'm still None
<@copperi:fedora.im>
16:40:57
!user hello copperi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:40:58
Jan Kuparinen (copperi)
<@gurssing:matrix.org>
16:42:02
!user hello gursewak
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:42:03
Gursewak Singh (gursewak)
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:42:45
Let's start!
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:43:11
!chair fifofonix Yasmin Valim de Souza gursewak
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:43:32
hum, not sure if this one works :/
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:43:46
!topic Action items from last meeting
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:44:34
there are no chairs in the matrix
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:45:08
I'm looking for the logs from the last meeting...
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:45:58
!link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-coreos-community-meeting-minutes-2023-11-15/95974
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:46:10
according to https://github.com/coreos/fcos-meeting-action/issues/43, there are no action items
<@ydesouza:fedora.im>
16:46:33
travier last meeting I did really know to set the action items, but basically Jonathan proposed to us releasing afterburn and ignition. And then I volunteer to do the ignition release and Mike the afterburn one.
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:47:25
I had two actions from https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-coreos-community-meeting-minutes-2023-11-08/95448
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:47:27
!link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-coreos-community-meeting-minutes-2023-11-08/95448
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:47:44
!action travier to create a change proposal for F40 for switching away from nss-altfiles for OSTree based systems
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:47:51
!action travier to schedule meeting with Assisted installer team to understand the use case around https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1595
<@ydesouza:fedora.im>
16:48:11
travier last meeting I did really not know to set the action items, but basically Jonathan proposed to us releasing afterburn and ignition. And then I volunteer to do the ignition release and Mike the afterburn one.
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:48:17
ahhh yes. i guess we hadn't carried it over into the meeting after that
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:48:27
ok, let's move on
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:48:35
looks like the old logs are 404/gone
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:49:04
i think the link might be a bit off. i use https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org/teams/fedora_coreos_meeting/ which still seems ok
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:49:25
hum, found: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2023-11-15/fedora_coreos_meeting.2023-11-15-16.30.html
<@apiaseck:matrix.org>
16:49:52
!user hello c4rt0
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:49:56
Adam Piasecki (c4rt0) - he / him / his
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:49:57
your link doesn't load for me Jonathan
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:50:05
let's investigate that after the meeting
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:50:39
!topic Use Matrix for community meetings
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:50:45
!link https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1616
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:50:55
So, this is a bit meta :)
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:51:06
We're kind of doing it :)
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:51:35
I'll make PRs to update the docs. Anything else that we should do?
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:51:51
The fcos meeting action might need some love as wel
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:51:54
The fcos meeting action might need some love as well
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:52:00
nice, SGTM!
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:52:07
i think that's the main thing
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:52:19
i don't think there's anything else needed
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:53:14
We'll see how good the notes are / if this works at the end
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:53:30
moving to next topic
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:53:44
!topic linux-firmware does not pull amd-ucode-firmware subpackage
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:53:50
!link https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1618
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:54:47
An update to the linux-firmware is dropping the amd-ucode subpackage due to a packaging issue
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:55:02
The package will be moving to recommends in the future and we don't pull recommends
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:55:06
so we need an action
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:55:38
I've made a PR already but not sure if that's exactly what we want
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:56:30
oh, I've just realized that we also explicitly include intel microcode so I guess this should be ok
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:56:55
i think similarly to https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1575, short-term we should make sure it stays, regardless of what we decide longer term. but even longer term shouldn't we ship this?
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:57:23
is the intel one being broken out too?
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:57:45
yes, I agree it should stay in the image as it's for the CPU so a "core" thing :)
<@siosm:matrix.org>
16:58:46
interestingly, linux-firmware does not recommend microcode_ctl (for the intel ucode)
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:59:39
hmm, that's interesting. so for intel the microcodes are shipped in microcode_ctl, but for amd they're in linux-firmware
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:00:01
yeah, this had me confused initially
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:00:13
yeah, this confused me initially
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
17:00:22
likely history there. but anyway, +1 to continuing to ship it
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:01:06
!proposed We'll keep include amd-ucode-firmware in FCOS
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:01:27
We can now vote with emoji!
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
17:01:45
that's pretty neat
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:03:16
!agreed We'll keep include amd-ucode-firmware in FCOS
<@fifofonix:matrix.org>
17:03:32
la vie en rose
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:03:53
That's it for today
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:03:59
!topic Open Floor
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:04:23
We now have all streams on F39 🎉
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:05:13
Great work on the releases and testing / fixing issues!
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
17:05:15
nice. thanks spresti for running the releases this week!
<@spresti:fedora.im>
17:05:37
Nooo problem :)
<@spresti:fedora.im>
17:05:59
So moving forward are we going to be using matrix for hosting the meeting?
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
17:07:36
yeah, that's the plan
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
17:07:54
we'll need to update the meeting github action
<@spresti:fedora.im>
17:07:59
Sweet, if thats the case there might be a few small changes for the fcos-action-checklist
<@spresti:fedora.im>
17:08:42
travier: I might poke you about some details on it.
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:10:24
sure!
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:12:04
If there is nothing else, I'll close in 5 min :)
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:13:02
so far on F39, I only had one weird podman behavior change around default permissions for tmpfs mounts but I'm not 100% it's related to the f38->f39 rebase so I'll have to investigate
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:16:21
Alright, will close the meeting
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:16:30
!e,dmeeting
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:16:36
!endmeeting
<@siosm:matrix.org>
17:16:51
!endmeeting