#meeting-1:fedoraproject.org log

<@spresti:fedora.im>

16:35:03

!startmeeting fedora_coreos_meeting

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

16:35:04

Meeting started at 2024-01-10 16:35:03 UTC

<@meetbot:fedora.im>

16:35:04

The Meeting name is 'fedora_coreos_meeting'

<@spresti:fedora.im>

16:35:16

!topic roll call

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:35:24

!hello siosm

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

16:35:25

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

16:35:26

Timothée Ravier (siosm) - he / him / his

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

16:35:27

No Fedora Accounts users have the @dustymabe:matrix.org Matrix Account defined

<@jlebon:fedora.im>

16:35:31

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

16:35:33

None (jlebon)

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

16:36:03

oh fun

<@fifofonix:matrix.org>

16:36:26

!hi and happy new year

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

16:36:27

Sorry, I can only look up one username at a time

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:36:44

You can setup the link with your account in https://accounts.fedoraproject.org/

<@fifofonix:matrix.org>

16:37:12

.hi fifofonix

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

16:37:59

let me try again now that I've updated it

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

16:38:02

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

16:38:03

Dusty Mabe (dustymabe) - he / him / his

<@spresti:fedora.im>

16:38:10

yay

<@fifofonix:matrix.org>

16:38:11

!hi fifofonix

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

16:38:13

Fifo Phonics (fifofonix)

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

16:38:29

full disclosure I have to drop at the hour mark (30 minutes early)

<@spresti:fedora.im>

16:38:44

Ok lets go ahead and get this rolling

<@spresti:fedora.im>

16:38:59

!topic Action items from last meeting

<@marmijo:fedora.im>

16:39:51

!hi

<@zodbot:fedora.im>

16:39:52

Michael Armijo (marmijo)

<@spresti:fedora.im>

16:40:16

!topic there are no action items from the last meeting.

<@spresti:fedora.im>

16:40:41

I just double checked the last meeting to make sure, I dont see any atleast.

<@spresti:fedora.im>

16:40:48

Moving on to active meeting topics

<@spresti:fedora.im>

16:41:06

!topic New Package Request: mtr

<@spresti:fedora.im>

16:41:17

!link https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1644

<@spresti:fedora.im>

16:42:12

Any thoughts on adding this package?

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

16:43:05

I think I'm with travier in the ticket here.. this should be something you can launch from a container

<@spresti:fedora.im>

16:43:19

travier: it looks like the workaround would be to layer it, and you have it working?

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:44:01

Running from a toolbox works fine: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1644#issuecomment-1882891318

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

16:44:02

sometimes network debugging tools are useful to have on system (i.e. if the network isn't working sometimes you can't pull the tool you need to debug it), but I think we have enough tools in there to debug things. mtr is essentially just a nicer version of tools that already exist

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:44:25

yes, it's a nicer version of tracepath, which we already have

<@spresti:fedora.im>

16:45:48

so in that case, should we propose that the usecases are already met by packages x,y,z, and we have no intent of adding it?

<@spresti:fedora.im>

16:46:48

!propose the functionality provided by mtr is achieved by other packages already shipped, we have no plans of adding this package.

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

16:47:04

maybe lighten the wording a bit

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

16:47:43

the basic functionality of mtr already exists in FCOS and mtr can be run in a toolbox container so we don't see the need to add this package to the base for everyone

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:47:51

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

16:48:05

the basic functionality of mtr already exists in FCOS in tracepath and mtr can be installed and run in a toolbox container so we don't see the need to add this package to the base for everyone

<@spresti:fedora.im>

16:48:28

ah ok +1

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

16:49:03

maybe "lighten the wording" wasn't the right thing to say.. I just think the added reasoning helps understand the why

<@spresti:fedora.im>

16:50:58

!proposed the basic functionality of mtr already exists in FCOS through tracepath. Additionally mtr can be installed and ran in a toolbox container. So we currently do not see the need to add this package to the base for everyone.

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:51:16

<@spresti:fedora.im>

16:51:18

oh wow does proposed not work?

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:51:34

I don't think there is a proposed command

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:51:37

just the agreed one

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:51:44

there is nothing for the bot to do on proposed

<@spresti:fedora.im>

16:52:03

Ah that makes sense.

<@siosm:matrix.org>

16:52:27

we can vote with emoji now :)

<@spresti:fedora.im>

16:52:34

lol the power!

<@spresti:fedora.im>

16:53:19

If we could get 1 more vote we can move on to the next topic.

<@fifofonix:matrix.org>

16:53:30

<@spresti:fedora.im>

16:53:51

!agreed the basic functionality of mtr already exists in FCOS through tracepath. Additionally mtr can be installed and ran in a toolbox container. So we currently do not see the need to add this package to the base for everyone.

<@spresti:fedora.im>

16:54:22

!topic aarch64 failing to upgrade with /boot filesystem full

<@spresti:fedora.im>

16:54:34

!link https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1637

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

16:55:52

The proposed mitigation/fix for this is in https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1637#issuecomment-1878186381 which we are actively executing

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

16:56:03

let me know if the proposal has any problems

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

16:56:16

we've already done the first set of releases

<@spresti:fedora.im>

16:57:54

I think with that, I am certainly no SME on this, but if its functional and already an active direction, staying with it seems to be the best approach.

<@spresti:fedora.im>

16:58:27

!proposed continue with the proposed mitigation/fix for this is in https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1637#issuecomment-1878186381 which we are actively executing

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

17:00:11

<@spresti:fedora.im>

17:00:27

!agreed continue with the proposed mitigation/fix for this is in https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1637#issuecomment-1878186381 which we are actively executing.

<@spresti:fedora.im>

17:00:55

!topic tracker: Fedora 40 changes considerations

<@spresti:fedora.im>

17:01:11

!link https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1626

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

17:01:46

so I ran the script earlier today and there are no new items to process (i.e. nothing has changed state since last week)

<@spresti:fedora.im>

17:02:00

Yay thank you for doing that

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

17:02:16

it would be nice to get some people assigned to the investigation tickets if we could

<@dustymabe:matrix.org>

17:02:28

but other than that there's nothing for us to do today I don't think

<@spresti:fedora.im>

17:02:55

Outside of this meeting do we have any other workflows to assign members?

<@spresti:fedora.im>

17:03:15

and or allow for people to opt in

<@siosm:matrix.org>

17:04:11

note really, it's on a volunteer basis

<@siosm:matrix.org>

17:04:16

not really, it's on a volunteer basis

<@spresti:fedora.im>

17:06:07

hmm, I just worry that this meeting might be a limited surface area for opt in work

<@spresti:fedora.im>

17:06:34

I am about to switch us over to open floor

<@spresti:fedora.im>

17:06:53

!topic Open Floor

<@spresti:fedora.im>

17:07:22

Anything to discuss today?

<@siosm:matrix.org>

17:07:25

I'm currently investigating https://github.com/coreos/rpm-ostree/issues/4765

<@siosm:matrix.org>

17:07:53

This does not impact FCOS yet (only Silverblue rawhide right now) but is better not left unfixed

<@jlebon:fedora.im>

17:09:41

travier: we haven't had a rawhide build in a while so maybe it does

<@spresti:fedora.im>

17:10:34

so I am like a deer looking at headlights could you explain final command you ran in the actual / expected

<@jlebon:fedora.im>

17:11:29

ahh i see, it's compose side versioning that matters

<@siosm:matrix.org>

17:11:42

Jonathan Lebon: It only show up when building from a rawhide buildroot and COSA currently uses F39

<@jlebon:fedora.im>

17:11:54

right yup

<@siosm:matrix.org>

17:12:13

if you look at the fist byte in the output, it's different

<@siosm:matrix.org>

17:12:50

0x01 vs 0x00. Decoded, it means cap_setgid=ep vs cap_setgid=ip

<@spresti:fedora.im>

17:13:08

yeah I see that... ah ok I see

<@siosm:matrix.org>

17:13:48

`getcap /usr/bin/newgidmap` is more explicit but I can not run that on a ostree object :)

<@siosm:matrix.org>

17:13:53

`getcap /usr/bin/newgidmap` is more explicit but I can not run that on an ostree object :)

<@spresti:fedora.im>

17:14:54

I think this could be a good meeting topic for next week travier, maybe a few more eyes can help

<@spresti:fedora.im>

17:16:01

If we can make it a meeting topic that is.

<@siosm:matrix.org>

17:17:30

We'll see where we are next week. Right now I'm still trying to investigate where this could come from

<@siosm:matrix.org>

17:17:43

I have a reproducer now so that should help

<@spresti:fedora.im>

17:18:20

well good catch, and thank you for looking into it!

<@spresti:fedora.im>

17:18:53

With that, the meeting seems to have slowed down, if no one has anything else, lets end the meeting.

<@spresti:fedora.im>

17:19:10

!endmeeting