<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:29:18
!startmeeting fedora_coreos_meeting
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:29:20
Meeting started at 2024-01-17 16:29:18 UTC
<@meetbot:fedora.im>
16:29:20
The Meeting name is 'fedora_coreos_meeting'
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:29:23
!topic roll call
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:29:27
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:29:28
Dusty Mabe (dustymabe) - he / him / his
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:30:10
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:30:11
None (jlebon)
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:31:48
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:31:49
Michael Armijo (marmijo)
<@gurssing:matrix.org>
16:31:50
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:31:52
No Fedora Accounts users have the @gurssing:matrix.org Matrix Account defined
<@mnguyen:fedora.im>
16:31:55
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:31:56
Michael Nguyen (mnguyen)
<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>
16:33:01
!hi
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:33:03
No Fedora Accounts users have the @jbtrystram:matrix.org Matrix Account defined
<@apiaseck:matrix.org>
16:33:12
!hello c4rt0
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:33:14
Adam Piasecki (c4rt0) - he / him / his
<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>
16:33:22
!hi jbtrystram
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:33:24
Jean-Baptiste Trystram (jbtrystram) - he / him / his
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:33:46
you all will need to update your FAS account with your matrix info - gursewak ^^
<@gurssing:matrix.org>
16:34:47
!hi gursewak
<@zodbot:fedora.im>
16:34:49
Gursewak Singh (gursewak)
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:34:53
Nice!
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:35:15
let's get started soon
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:35:27
!topic Action items from last meeting
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:35:44
!topic there are no action items from the last meeting.
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:35:58
!topic Platform Request: Proxmox
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:36:05
!link https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/736
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:36:43
Jonathan Lebon: want to intro this one since you tagged with `meeting`?
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:36:54
sure thing
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:38:41
support for Proxmox has been discussed before, and I think it was another case of "if there's interest, we're open for others to implement it", and some tickets related to that were spun out (see https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/736#issuecomment-777221334)
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:39:00
one notably about "platform support tiers"
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:39:24
anyway, there's a PR now in afterburn for adding support for the platform: https://github.com/coreos/afterburn/pull/1023
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:40:21
it's being added for another distro (Flatcar) but it still helps FCOS too if other parts are eventually implemented too
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:40:54
at the very least, we should agree on a platform ID so that it's consistent across the two distros
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:42:46
`proxmox` ?
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:42:56
platform id: `proxmox` ?
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:44:27
possibly. i think i'll dig into that stack a bit more
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:44:44
(or is someone here familiar with proxmox?)
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:44:55
they went with `proxmoxve` in the PR.
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:45:21
anyway, this is also serving as an FYI that there's work happening there which will make it easier to FCOS support too if wanted
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:45:30
yeah, I don't know enough about it.. like there is vmware the company and then there's vsphere...
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:45:32
anyway, this is also serving as an FYI that there's work happening there which will make it easier for FCOS support too if wanted
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:45:49
yeah, exactly. not sure if there's other variants/environments, etc...
<@mnguyen:fedora.im>
16:47:04
their website says they have a few products. proxmox virtual environment is their platform
<@apiaseck:matrix.org>
16:48:15
I guess that's what they're referring to. I used the Proxmox VE in the past as a controller for virtual machines on a local server.
<@buckaroogeek:fedora.im>
16:49:16
From Proxmox about: "Proxmox solutions are based on a highly-tweaked version of Debian GNU/Linux and a rock-solid Linux kernel. GNU/Linux provides great performance and is an extremely stable and reliable platform for servers. The Linux kernel also supports a wide range of hardware configurations - from commodity systems to high performance multiprocessor servers."
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:50:22
offhand, i think sticking with `proxmoxve` is probably better/safer
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:51:29
!info there is work going on that should make proxmox easier to add FCOS support for if a motivated individual came along: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/736#issuecomment-1892669133
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:51:56
!proposed We will reserve the `proxmoxve` platform ID for the proxmox platform.
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:54:04
I'm not sure if the thumbs up on messages get recorded.. can you each add a new message with a +1 or 👍 in it?
<@marmijo:fedora.im>
16:54:09
+1
<@apiaseck:matrix.org>
16:54:19
+1
<@jbtrystram:matrix.org>
16:54:27
+1
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:54:42
!agreed We will reserve the `proxmoxve` platform ID for the proxmox platform.
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:54:49
thanks for participating :)
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:55:02
Jonathan Lebon: anything else to discuss on this topic?
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:55:19
no, that's all :)
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:56:37
ok next topic then
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:56:45
!topic Podman v5 breaking changes
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:56:53
!link https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1629
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:57:22
This change has now been accepted.. We should plan our next steps
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:58:39
The last time we discussed this:
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
16:59:02
We came up with:
```
12:09:29* dustymabe | !info as soon as the podman v5 change gets accepted for Fedora 40 we should add CLHM helpers to
| notifiy people of the incoming changes and also a coreos-status post with the details
```
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
16:59:34
Writing the CLHM dropin sounds simple, but requires inspecting podman/node settings. It would be an interesting experience for someone unfamiliar with this stuff. So would writing a coreos-status post
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
17:00:08
+1 would love some volunteers to drive this (an opportunity to learn)
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
17:01:13
I will note that rawhide right now is still podman 4.8.3
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
17:01:37
what we should do is verify that the steps we give people will get them all the way to podman v5 without any further steps
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
17:01:57
I assume there are probably some copr packages somewhere of podman v5 dev
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
17:03:17
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/rhcontainerbot/podman-next/packages/
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
17:03:50
specifically, testing this requires a node born on e.g. f35 and upgraded throughout
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
17:03:53
so yeah, we might be able to verify at least that a recent FCOS install can get to podman v5 with no intervention needed
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
17:04:14
Jonathan Lebon: correct
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
17:04:56
!info we are looking for a volunteer to drive the process to help users migrate older systems to newer settings that will allow them to adopt podman v5 without issue
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
17:05:03
that's all I had
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
17:07:17
I was going to bring up the general F40 changes ticket, but none of the new accepted changes have bugs assigned to them so my script breaks
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
17:07:32
I can see the new accepted changes and I think it's safe to wait a week to discuss them.
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
17:07:43
!topic Open Floor
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
17:07:53
any other topics to discuss today?
<@jlebon:fedora.im>
17:09:15
nothing from my side
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
17:09:24
Brad Smith: anything in particular you wanted to discuss?
<@mnguyen:fedora.im>
17:09:26
nothing here
<@buckaroogeek:fedora.im>
17:10:17
Nothing from me today - thanks
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
17:11:12
:)
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
17:11:20
I'll close out the meeting in a few minutes if no topics come up
<@dustymabe:matrix.org>
17:13:47
!endmeeting