2024-08-14 16:33:26 <@gurssing:matrix.org> !startmeeting fedora_coreos_meeting 2024-08-14 16:33:28 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-08-14 16:33:26 UTC 2024-08-14 16:33:29 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'fedora_coreos_meeting' 2024-08-14 16:33:35 <@gurssing:matrix.org> !topic roll call 2024-08-14 16:33:50 <@jlebon:fedora.im> !hello 2024-08-14 16:33:51 <@zodbot:fedora.im> None (jlebon) 2024-08-14 16:34:14 <@gurssing:matrix.org> !hi gursewak 2024-08-14 16:34:16 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Gursewak Singh (gursewak) 2024-08-14 16:34:18 <@ravanelli:matrix.org> !hi ravanelli 2024-08-14 16:34:20 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Renata Ravanelli (ravanelli) 2024-08-14 16:34:21 <@hricky:fedora.im> !hi 2024-08-14 16:34:22 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Hristo Marinov (hricky) - he / him / his 2024-08-14 16:34:27 <@marmijo:fedora.im> !hi 2024-08-14 16:34:28 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Michael Armijo (marmijo) 2024-08-14 16:34:44 <@gurssing:matrix.org> !topic Action items from last meeting 2024-08-14 16:35:27 <@gurssing:matrix.org> Failed: to get action items, check the last meeting notes. 2024-08-14 16:35:56 <@gurssing:matrix.org> No actions from last week so moving on to the issues. 2024-08-14 16:36:08 <@gurssing:matrix.org> !topic tracker: Fedora 41 changes considerations 2024-08-14 16:36:21 <@gurssing:matrix.org> !link https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1714 2024-08-14 16:36:53 <@marmijo:fedora.im> There have been a few changes that came in since last week: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1714#issuecomment-2289245456 2024-08-14 16:37:26 <@jlebon:fedora.im> nice, thanks for keeping it up to date marmijo ! 2024-08-14 16:37:46 <@marmijo:fedora.im> looks like 105 was deferred to F42, and 131 was added with the same tracking bug # 2024-08-14 16:38:44 <@marmijo:fedora.im> for 229, we dont ship GIMP 2024-08-14 16:38:50 <@jlebon:fedora.im> 224: we don't ship this tool 2024-08-14 16:38:50 <@jlebon:fedora.im> 223: FCOS doesn't ship PyTorch 2024-08-14 16:38:50 <@jlebon:fedora.im> 131: not relevant to FCOS 2024-08-14 16:38:57 <@jlebon:fedora.im> 225: same 2024-08-14 16:39:09 <@jlebon:fedora.im> 227: same 2024-08-14 16:39:59 <@jlebon:fedora.im> 226: the change is for Anaconda, so doesn't directly affect FCOS, but... I can smell an RFE coming for it at some point 2024-08-14 16:40:43 <@jlebon:fedora.im> this is a good example of a feature we'd just get if we used Anaconda 2024-08-14 16:40:53 <@jlebon:fedora.im> but anyway for now, we can skip this 2024-08-14 16:41:25 <@jlebon:fedora.im> looking at 228... 2024-08-14 16:42:40 <@jlebon:fedora.im> based on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NetavarkNftablesDefault#How_To_Test, i think this is mostly transparent to users and doesn't affect already-created containers 2024-08-14 16:43:26 <@jlebon:fedora.im> let's confirm with the podman team for that one 2024-08-14 16:44:24 <@jlebon:fedora.im> https://matrix.to/#/!SEjxdEhDPWoPxzjWCX:matrix.org/$sEno4pA-P9BbkZyqnkZsSUAY9Bb7X5lcZhHGCDyfE4w?via=matrix.org&via=t2bot.io&via=fedora.im 2024-08-14 16:44:29 <@jlebon:fedora.im> but anyway, we can continue 2024-08-14 16:45:09 <@marmijo:fedora.im> Sounds good. I think that was all the new changes. thanks for reviewing them Jonathan Lebon 2024-08-14 16:45:16 <@gurssing:matrix.org> !topic Ship dnf in FCOS and RHCOS 2024-08-14 16:45:30 <@gurssing:matrix.org> !link https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1687 2024-08-14 16:45:55 <@marmijo:fedora.im> I added the meeting label to this one because it was noted in https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1695 to rediscuss this at Fedora Branching, which was yesterday 2024-08-14 16:46:48 <@jlebon:fedora.im> hah, nice. i forgot i had done that 2024-08-14 16:47:03 <@jlebon:fedora.im> i really like the checklist approach we have for our things 2024-08-14 16:47:26 <@marmijo:fedora.im> same here. it keeps the process consistent and it lowers the barrier to entry for newer team members 2024-08-14 16:47:37 <@jlebon:fedora.im> ok so, yes. i think we had said we would rediscuss this at branching to see if to let f41 inherit this change or back it out. 2024-08-14 16:48:27 <@jlebon:fedora.im> from the latest discussions in the bootc community both upstream and downstream, there hasn't been any changes there to the general idea of "we're moving focus to dnf + bootc" 2024-08-14 16:49:17 <@jlebon:fedora.im> so i don't see a reason why we should back it out at this point, but also a bunch of people are not here, so maybe let's leave it tagged for next week 2024-08-14 16:49:30 <@marmijo:fedora.im> okay, so sounds like we're still go to proceed with the change. 2024-08-14 16:49:39 <@marmijo:fedora.im> I'll keep the label for next week then 2024-08-14 16:51:08 <@gurssing:matrix.org> That's all the issue we have for today. I'll move to open floor if there's nothing more to add to the above. 2024-08-14 16:51:17 <@gurssing:matrix.org> That's all the issues we have for today. I'll move to open floor if there's nothing more to add to the above. 2024-08-14 16:51:43 <@gurssing:matrix.org> !topic Open Floor 2024-08-14 16:52:47 <@jlebon:fedora.im> got a reply to the podman question and yes it should be transparent 2024-08-14 16:52:51 <@jlebon:fedora.im> so we can checkmark that one 2024-08-14 16:53:29 <@marmijo:fedora.im> great! thanks for asking over there 2024-08-14 16:55:14 <@gurssing:matrix.org> Will close the meeting in another minute:) 2024-08-14 16:57:20 <@gurssing:matrix.org> !endmeeting