2025-01-08 16:30:25 <@ydesouza:matrix.org> !startmeeting fedora_coreos_meeting
2025-01-08 16:30:27 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2025-01-08 16:30:25 UTC
2025-01-08 16:30:27 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'fedora_coreos_meeting'
2025-01-08 16:30:42 <@ydesouza:matrix.org> !topic roll call
2025-01-08 16:30:50 <@marmijo:fedora.im> !hi
2025-01-08 16:30:51 <@apiaseck:matrix.org> !hi
2025-01-08 16:30:51 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Michael Armijo (marmijo)
2025-01-08 16:30:52 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Adam Piasecki (c4rt0) - he / him / his
2025-01-08 16:31:08 <@gurssing:matrix.org> !hi gursewak
2025-01-08 16:31:10 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Gursewak Singh (gursewak)
2025-01-08 16:31:22 <@mnguyen:fedora.im> !hi mnguyen
2025-01-08 16:31:23 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Michael Nguyen (mnguyen)
2025-01-08 16:31:28 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> !hi
2025-01-08 16:31:50 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Jean-Baptiste Trystram (jbtrystram) - he / him / his
2025-01-08 16:32:00 <@hricky:fedora.im> !hi
2025-01-08 16:32:02 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Hristo Marinov (hricky) - he / him / his
2025-01-08 16:32:13 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> !hi
2025-01-08 16:32:14 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Dusty Mabe (dustymabe) - he / him / his
2025-01-08 16:34:12 <@jlebon:fedora.im> !hi
2025-01-08 16:34:13 <@zodbot:fedora.im> None (jlebon)
2025-01-08 16:34:55 <@ydesouza:matrix.org> Welcome, everyone!  👋
2025-01-08 16:34:55 <@ydesouza:matrix.org> This is our first community meeting of 2025, so a very happy New Year to all!
2025-01-08 16:35:02 <@aaradhak:matrix.org> !hi aaradhak
2025-01-08 16:35:05 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Aashish Radhakrishnan (aaradhak)
2025-01-08 16:35:36 <@ydesouza:matrix.org> !topic Action items from last meeting
2025-01-08 16:36:32 <@ydesouza:matrix.org> I verified that the last community meeting was on December 18th, and as far as I know, there were no action items assigned in that meeting.
2025-01-08 16:38:11 <@ydesouza:matrix.org> !topic No meeting topics found.
2025-01-08 16:38:15 <@ydesouza:matrix.org> As far as I can see in our checklist for this meeting, there are no topics from the tracker.
2025-01-08 16:39:01 <@ydesouza:matrix.org> I suppose we can move straight to the open floor and see if anyone has any updates or topics!
2025-01-08 16:39:14 <@ydesouza:matrix.org>  !topic Open Floor
2025-01-08 16:39:50 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> marmijo: should we go through some new changes that have come in?
2025-01-08 16:39:55 <@apiaseck:matrix.org> Is there any new updates related to https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1838 ?
2025-01-08 16:40:05 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> I guess we should add the `meeting` label to that one when new ones are added
2025-01-08 16:40:18 <@marmijo:fedora.im> sure thing! Yes, I meant to do that yesterday.
2025-01-08 16:41:15 <@marmijo:fedora.im> !link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Ruby_3.4
2025-01-08 16:41:44 <@marmijo:fedora.im> change 115: I dont think we ship ruby, is that right?
2025-01-08 16:42:01 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> correct
2025-01-08 16:42:34 <@marmijo:fedora.im> !link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Xfce-4.20
2025-01-08 16:42:40 <@marmijo:fedora.im> change 213
2025-01-08 16:43:00 <@jlebon:fedora.im> looking at all the new changes, none of them are relevant to FCOS
2025-01-08 16:43:21 <@marmijo:fedora.im> Perfect, that saves some time! I'll mark them all as such
2025-01-08 16:44:47 <@marmijo:fedora.im> That's it for the current fedora changes!
2025-01-08 16:45:30 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> I don't have anything for open floor specifically today.
2025-01-08 16:45:45 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> We did our first release in 3 weeks (should be rolling out today and the next 48h) 
2025-01-08 16:46:54 <@ydesouza:matrix.org> That's great news! I hope it was a smooth release. 
2025-01-08 16:47:52 <@ydesouza:matrix.org> So, since we don't have any other open floor topics to discuss, I guess we are good to finish our first meeting of this year!
2025-01-08 16:48:30 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> Yep! 
2025-01-08 16:48:41 <@ydesouza:matrix.org> Thanks you all for joining today!
2025-01-08 16:48:42 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> Please do open issues and label them with meeting to discuss things in future meetings
2025-01-08 16:49:00 <@jlebon:fedora.im> i guess i should've tagged https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1852
2025-01-08 16:49:31 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> thanks all ! 
2025-01-08 16:49:47 <@mnguyen:fedora.im> thanks for running Yasmin de Souza !
2025-01-08 16:50:11 <@ydesouza:matrix.org> Do you want to talk about this issue today, Jonathan? Or should we add the tag meeting in that and discuss next week?
2025-01-08 16:50:30 <@ydesouza:matrix.org> We still have time :)
2025-01-08 16:50:42 <@jlebon:fedora.im> i'm up for it if folks are interested since it's still early
2025-01-08 16:51:32 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> 👍️
2025-01-08 16:53:26 <@jlebon:fedora.im> the TL;DR is that we're planning to move the live rootfs from using squashfs to erofs. this will happen in osbuild since that's how the live artifacts are built now.
2025-01-08 16:53:26 <@jlebon:fedora.im> there is a proposal to also do this change for other Fedora live artifacts. and so we're going to combine with that proposal.
2025-01-08 16:56:30 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> Jonathan Lebon: mind a quick summary of the benefits of erofs? 
2025-01-08 16:58:17 <@jlebon:fedora.im> the main benefit is that unlike squashfs, it's much better maintained. and in fact, it won't be supported at all in el10.
2025-01-08 16:58:17 <@jlebon:fedora.im> but also AIUI it supports a bunch of more modern filesystem features than squashfs
2025-01-08 16:58:35 <@jlebon:fedora.im> but also AIUI it supports a bunch of more modern filesystem features than squashfs
2025-01-08 16:58:35 <@jlebon:fedora.im> the main benefit is that unlike squashfs, it's much better maintained. and in fact, squashfs won't be supported at all in el10.
2025-01-08 16:58:54 <@jlebon:fedora.im> https://erofs.docs.kernel.org/en/latest/features.html
2025-01-08 17:00:55 <@jlebon:fedora.im> worth noting also we're already technically using erofs today via composefs
2025-01-08 17:01:01 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> SGTM - anyone with questions? 
2025-01-08 17:01:14 <@jlebon:fedora.im> but it's mostly transparent to FCOS (the erofs image is automatically generated by ostree)
2025-01-08 17:02:03 <@ydesouza:matrix.org> Nice, Jonathan! Thanks for explaining the benefits of this proposal. 
2025-01-08 17:05:20 <@ydesouza:matrix.org> Should we create an action item for this?
2025-01-08 17:07:15 <@jlebon:fedora.im> probably not, there's not much to add beyond what's in the ticket. i think this is mostly an FYI and in case there were questions/concerns
2025-01-08 17:08:27 <@apiaseck:matrix.org> Feels like a big change. I found that the EROFS is slightly faster than the squashFS. Would this change improve the build process?
2025-01-08 17:10:12 <@jlebon:fedora.im> it needs to be tested. until very recently, it had worse compression and creation time. but the latest erofs-utils release should've improved things (well, compression at least, not sure about time)
2025-01-08 17:10:49 <@apiaseck:matrix.org> Ok, thanks Jonathan Lebon 
2025-01-08 17:12:51 <@ydesouza:matrix.org> So, I guess that is it! Thanks all for joining today and unless anyone has anything to say, see you all next week!
2025-01-08 17:15:12 <@apiaseck:matrix.org> Thanks for running Yasmin de Souza!
2025-01-08 17:15:12 <@apiaseck:matrix.org> Happy new year, once again :) 
2025-01-08 17:15:32 <@ydesouza:matrix.org> !endmeeting