2025-04-02 16:30:10 <@marmijo:fedora.im> !startmeeting fedora_coreos_meeting
2025-04-02 16:30:11 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2025-04-02 16:30:10 UTC
2025-04-02 16:30:11 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'fedora_coreos_meeting'
2025-04-02 16:30:15 <@marmijo:fedora.im> !topic roll call
2025-04-02 16:30:25 <@ydesouza:fedora.im> hi!
2025-04-02 16:30:43 <@hricky:fedora.im> !hi
2025-04-02 16:30:44 <@ydesouza:fedora.im> !hi
2025-04-02 16:30:45 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Hristo Marinov (hricky) - he / him / his
2025-04-02 16:30:46 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Yasmin Valim de Souza (ydesouza)
2025-04-02 16:32:30 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> !hi
2025-04-02 16:32:33 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Dusty Mabe (dustymabe) - he / him / his
2025-04-02 16:32:46 <@tlbueno:matrix.org> !hi
2025-04-02 16:32:48 <@zodbot:fedora.im> No Fedora Accounts users have the @tlbueno:matrix.org Matrix Account defined
2025-04-02 16:32:50 <@spresti:fedora.im> !hi
2025-04-02 16:32:51 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Steven Presti (spresti)
2025-04-02 16:33:39 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> !hi
2025-04-02 16:33:41 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Jean-Baptiste Trystram (jbtrystram) - he / him / his
2025-04-02 16:33:47 <@aaradhak:matrix.org> !hi aaradhak
2025-04-02 16:33:49 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Aashish Radhakrishnan (aaradhak)
2025-04-02 16:34:39 <@marmijo:fedora.im> Let's get started
2025-04-02 16:34:46 <@marmijo:fedora.im> !topic Action items from last meeting
2025-04-02 16:35:23 <@marmijo:fedora.im> !info we skipped the last meeting in favor of the Fedora 42 CoreOS Test Day session
2025-04-02 16:35:30 <@apiaseck:matrix.org> !hi
2025-04-02 16:35:36 <@marmijo:fedora.im> there were no action items from the meeting on 2025-03-19
2025-04-02 16:35:39 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Adam Piasecki (c4rt0) - he / him / his
2025-04-02 16:35:50 <@marmijo:fedora.im> !topic Review Fedora 42 Release Schedule
2025-04-02 16:35:55 <@marmijo:fedora.im> !link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-42/f-42-key-tasks.html
2025-04-02 16:36:38 <@marmijo:fedora.im> Looks like we just passed the Final Freeze event on 2025-04-01
2025-04-02 16:38:31 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> So.. weekly `next` releases now 
2025-04-02 16:38:59 <@marmijo:fedora.im> We're also getting close to the target release dates, with the early final target date being 2025-04-15
2025-04-02 16:39:36 <@marmijo:fedora.im> Anything else about this topic before we move on to the tracker items?
2025-04-02 16:40:52 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> I don't think so.. we did do a new `next` release yesterday, but the bootimages had a problem..
2025-04-02 16:40:58 <@ydesouza:fedora.im> I am assigneed to FCOS release for 2025-04-15. There is any difference in the process since its the final target date or it will be a normal stable, test, next release? 
2025-04-02 16:41:05 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1913
2025-04-02 16:41:19 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> We left the update in place but yanked the bootimages from the website/stream metadata
2025-04-02 16:42:48 <@jlebon:fedora.im> !hi
2025-04-02 16:42:49 <@zodbot:fedora.im> None (jlebon)
2025-04-02 16:42:57 <@nemric:relativit.fr> o/
2025-04-02 16:43:19 <@marmijo:fedora.im> Yasmin Valim de Souza: One difference might be the timing of the release. Let's discuss it in the Fedora CoreOS channel as we get a little closer to it.
2025-04-02 16:43:42 <@marmijo:fedora.im> Let's move on to the main topic for the meeting
2025-04-02 16:43:47 <@marmijo:fedora.im> !topic Stop publishing OSTree content for updates
2025-04-02 16:43:53 <@marmijo:fedora.im> !link https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1895
2025-04-02 16:44:30 <@marmijo:fedora.im> dustymabe: would you like to introduce this since you added the label?
2025-04-02 16:45:49 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> 
2025-04-02 16:45:49 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> Since we are moving to OCI for updates in Fedora 42 cycle, the OSTree repo should be unused after that. 
2025-04-02 16:45:49 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> Sounds good. For this we are proposing that we stop publishing OSTree content to the Fedora OSTree repo with F43+. 
2025-04-02 16:46:09 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> !link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/CoreOSStopPublishingOSTree
2025-04-02 16:46:14 <@jbtrystram:matrix.org> related FedoraChange
2025-04-02 16:46:16 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> Here we'd like to socialize the proposal and see if there are any blockers people can think of. i.e. reasons why we shouldn't do it
2025-04-02 16:48:24 <@jlebon:fedora.im> nice, thanks for filing this!
2025-04-02 16:49:55 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> I'm sure there will be some people who opt out of the migration in Fedora 42. Maybe once F43 rolls around and they are no longer getting updates they will open issues to tell us why they did that and we'll try to understand the cases.
2025-04-02 16:50:05 <@jlebon:fedora.im> i would add to https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1895#issuecomment-2743511287 to make the last ostree release a deadend. that'll also automatically create an MOTD
2025-04-02 16:51:31 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> hmm Jonathan Lebon - probably needs some more detailed discussion, but obviously (now that we have two ways to update) the release itself wouldn't be a deadend
2025-04-02 16:52:00 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> maybe that would take some special casing in Cincinnati ?
2025-04-02 16:52:56 <@jlebon:fedora.im> yeah, needs discussion. even if we have migration code that doesn't provide an opt-out, users could disable it, or it could fail, etc.
2025-04-02 16:53:59 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> how about add a comment to the ticket? 
2025-04-02 16:54:22 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> hadn't thought about a dead-end, but that probably is a good idea (but only on the ostree-update path, if we can do that) 
2025-04-02 16:55:55 <@jlebon:fedora.im> done
2025-04-02 16:57:58 <@marmijo:fedora.im> we can go ahead and move on to open floor if there's nothing else about this topic
2025-04-02 16:58:22 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> marmijo: if we want to record some kind of info about the discussion for the ticket that might be nice
2025-04-02 16:58:34 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> i.e. discussed, no opposed, blah blah
2025-04-02 16:58:47 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> don't know if we need to vote or not
2025-04-02 16:59:08 <@marmijo:fedora.im> sounds good, I can do that
2025-04-02 17:01:05 <@marmijo:fedora.im> !topic Open Floor
2025-04-02 17:02:23 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> Thanks for everyone who participated in test day! 
2025-04-02 17:02:54 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> There were some bugs that got fixed and a few different docs that got updated (or newly added!) 
2025-04-02 17:03:32 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> #info we are now producing `hetzner` images. Today's `stable` is the first one to have them 
2025-04-02 17:03:42 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> !info we are now producing `hetzner` images. Today's `stable` is the first one to have them
2025-04-02 17:04:38 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> I think that means we should merge the [docs PR](https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-docs/pull/654)
2025-04-02 17:05:17 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> proxmox was next in our list. I think it's now blocked on an `afterburn` release? 
2025-04-02 17:06:46 <@spresti:fedora.im> Hmm, i know that afterburn got a pr back in Jun, and there has been a release since. 
2025-04-02 17:07:43 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> We just merged one in the last few daysish 
2025-04-02 17:08:02 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> (I may have been a bit trigger happy there, so let me know!) 
2025-04-02 17:08:37 <@spresti:fedora.im> ah this one https://github.com/coreos/afterburn/pull/1165
2025-04-02 17:08:40 <@dustymabe:matrix.org> marmijo: that's all I have for open floor 
2025-04-02 17:09:56 <@spresti:fedora.im> I will add a release to our schedule and see if we can get that out some time soon. 
2025-04-02 17:10:14 <@marmijo:fedora.im> thanks spresti!
2025-04-02 17:10:36 <@marmijo:fedora.im> Anything else for open floor? I'll close the meeting otherwise.
2025-04-02 17:11:38 <@marmijo:fedora.im> Thanks for joining everyone!
2025-04-02 17:11:40 <@marmijo:fedora.im> !endmeeting