2024-02-14 15:05:59 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !startmeeting Fedora Council Meeting
2024-02-14 15:06:00 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-02-14 15:05:59 UTC
2024-02-14 15:06:00 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'Fedora Council Meeting'
2024-02-14 15:06:22 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> !hello
2024-02-14 15:06:23 <@zodbot:fedora.im> David Cantrell (dcantrell) - he / him / his
2024-02-14 15:06:30 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !hi
2024-02-14 15:06:31 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Aoife Moloney (amoloney)
2024-02-14 15:07:09 <@jonatoni:fedora.im> !hello
2024-02-14 15:07:10 <@ffmancera:fedora.im> !hi
2024-02-14 15:07:11 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Jona Azizaj (jonatoni) - she / her / hers
2024-02-14 15:07:11 <@zodbot:fedora.im> FAS Fernando F. Mancera (ffmancera) - he / him / his
2024-02-14 15:08:43 <@amoloney:fedora.im> I know Matthew and Justin are both out, and Akash has declined the invite, Robert is the only one unaccounted for but I know his timezone means this is very early for him so will we proceed? It is likely just us four
2024-02-14 15:10:21 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> I don't know that we have anything urgent right now, except the KDE X11 thing that was discussed yesterday
2024-02-14 15:10:33 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> we did just come off a week of meetings  :)
2024-02-14 15:10:55 <@amoloney:fedora.im> Wholeheartedly agreed! :D
2024-02-14 15:11:29 <@amoloney:fedora.im> I think we can propose/action/agree that ticket though today?
2024-02-14 15:11:44 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> I think so, yes
2024-02-14 15:12:05 <@ffmancera:fedora.im> yep
2024-02-14 15:12:53 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !topic close out ticket #481 - KDE X11 Packages in Violation of System-Wide Change
2024-02-14 15:14:14 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> my proposal is that we close 481 with no action from the council; that is we do not override fesco.  but council should also communicate out the roles of SIGs and the community and what "support" means in Fedora
2024-02-14 15:14:37 <@amoloney:fedora.im> I agree with that proposal
2024-02-14 15:14:46 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> said message to the community should come from mattdm even if he is not the sole author
2024-02-14 15:14:47 <@ffmancera:fedora.im> +1
2024-02-14 15:14:53 <@jonatoni:fedora.im> +1
2024-02-14 15:14:56 <@amoloney:fedora.im> +1
2024-02-14 15:15:49 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> +1 (to my own proposal)
2024-02-14 15:16:58 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> I will take drafting an initial message and then we can all comment on it
2024-02-14 15:18:32 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !agreed Ticket #481 will be closed as Invalid - the council will not overrule FESCos decision. Instead, the council will (re)issue a statement to the Fedora Community on what the meaning of 'support' is in Fedora, and about SIGs in general - they define their own scope, etc.
2024-02-14 15:18:56 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !action dcantrell to draft the statement, and other council members to collaborate and sign off
2024-02-14 15:19:36 <@amoloney:fedora.im> Im happy to close the ticket and add this outcome as a comment
2024-02-14 15:19:46 <@amoloney:fedora.im> With that, AOB? :)
2024-02-14 15:20:14 <@amoloney:fedora.im> (any other business - apologies, shorthand is not polite to use) 
2024-02-14 15:20:14 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> nothing from me
2024-02-14 15:20:48 <@jonatoni:fedora.im> nothing from me as well
2024-02-14 15:21:25 <@ffmancera:fedora.im> I have one small question. We talked about Season of docs. I agreed on creating a ticket but where? Is the ticket aimed to the council directly?
2024-02-14 15:22:20 <@amoloney:fedora.im> What does Season of docs mean ffmancera ? 
2024-02-14 15:23:29 <@ffmancera:fedora.im> It is a Google program, the project apply to the program to get documentation folks for working on the proposed project.
2024-02-14 15:23:31 <@jonatoni:fedora.im> Same as Google Summer of Code but focused on documentation/technical writing
2024-02-14 15:23:47 <@ffmancera:fedora.im> Yes, but they are experienced I think, not mentees
2024-02-14 15:24:20 <@amoloney:fedora.im> Thanks both, this probably came up when I left on Friday in the hackfest :)
2024-02-14 15:25:17 <@ffmancera:fedora.im> Yes, it could be. i.e I am proposing Fedora as a project and for that I would need to issue a ticket for approval. Should it be under mindshare org or council?
2024-02-14 15:25:52 <@jonatoni:fedora.im> I would say Mindshare tbh
2024-02-14 15:26:01 <@dcantrell:fedora.im> agreed, mindshare
2024-02-14 15:26:56 <@amoloney:fedora.im> +1 to mindshare
2024-02-14 15:27:18 <@ffmancera:fedora.im> Great! Then I will proceed on mindshare. Thank you :-)
2024-02-14 15:28:04 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !agreed ffmancera to file a ticket to mindshare requesting approval for submission to the Season of Docs program
2024-02-14 15:28:39 <@amoloney:fedora.im> Last call for topics then folks! Otherwise, we are free to go :)
2024-02-14 15:29:47 <@ffmancera:fedora.im> nothing else from me!
2024-02-14 15:30:42 <@amoloney:fedora.im> okely dokely, thanks all for your time today!
2024-02-14 15:30:45 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !endmeeting