2024-02-28 15:03:04 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !startmeeting Fedora Council 2024-02-28 15:03:05 <@meetbot:fedora.im> Meeting started at 2024-02-28 15:03:04 UTC 2024-02-28 15:03:05 <@meetbot:fedora.im> The Meeting name is 'Fedora Council' 2024-02-28 15:03:27 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !topic Hello's, welcome, & pre-meeting chat 2024-02-28 15:03:29 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !hi 2024-02-28 15:03:30 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Justin W. Flory (jflory7) - he / him / his 2024-02-28 15:03:32 <@rwright:fedora.im> !hi 2024-02-28 15:03:33 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Robert Wright (rwright) - he / him / his 2024-02-28 15:03:43 <@jflory7:fedora.im> A very good morning to you, sir 2024-02-28 15:03:44 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !hi 2024-02-28 15:03:45 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Aoife Moloney (amoloney) 2024-02-28 15:04:05 <@jonatoni:fedora.im> !hi 2024-02-28 15:04:06 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Jona Azizaj (jonatoni) - she / her / hers 2024-02-28 15:04:14 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I am here for now but may have to abruptly drop for 10-15 minutes 2024-02-28 15:04:20 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Afternoon Aoife and Jona! 2024-02-28 15:04:32 <@jonatoni:fedora.im> hi folks 👋 2024-02-28 15:04:52 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I shared some thoughts about today's meeting, but nothing in a coherent format that looks like an agenda :) 2024-02-28 15:05:02 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I also haven't reviewed our ticket tracker in a while 2024-02-28 15:05:16 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I don't know if we have a ticket for post-hackfest actions, but we should :) 2024-02-28 15:05:47 <@amoloney:fedora.im> so I was going to suggest we take some ownership on areas that need a post-hackfest write up 2024-02-28 15:06:30 <@amoloney:fedora.im> the areas are more in my head rather than anything assignable, so I can create a ticket, or tickets if thats more helpful post meeting? 2024-02-28 15:06:33 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Oh, I have a thought there, it is something I discussed 1:1 with Sumantro Mukherjee but have not yet shared with the group yet 2024-02-28 15:06:40 <@jflory7:fedora.im> OK, procedure is now, AFK for 10 minutes 2024-02-28 15:06:58 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> I know this feeling too well... 2024-02-28 15:07:19 <@nhanlon:beeper.com> (also hi, good morning folks) 2024-02-28 15:08:39 <@rwright:fedora.im> I would say Tickets - just so we can track the different work items more granularly if we can 2024-02-28 15:10:37 <@amoloney:fedora.im> yeah i think so too. 2024-02-28 15:11:14 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !action @amoloney to create tickets for write ups on hackfest outcomes and assign to council members 2024-02-28 15:12:31 <@amoloney:fedora.im> morning Neil Hanlon ! 2024-02-28 15:15:38 <@amoloney:fedora.im> so I dont have much else for this meeting. I have a few to-do's to get to in terms of general council admin tidy up, so we can give it a few mins as I think Justin might have a topic. Is there anything else needs discussin'? 2024-02-28 15:16:42 <@jonatoni:fedora.im> not from my side 2024-02-28 15:16:50 <@rwright:fedora.im> Aoife Moloney: How long does a ticket stay open for after it's been voted on? I noticed when I read the tickets last night there was a lot of older tickets open. 2024-02-28 15:17:00 <@rwright:fedora.im> Or is that just part of clean up 2024-02-28 15:17:34 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Argh, I thought it was starting, but not yet 2024-02-28 15:17:47 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Could I send a quick voice note about this? 2024-02-28 15:18:11 <@amoloney:fedora.im> sure! 2024-02-28 15:18:50 <@amoloney:fedora.im> so thats something Im not too sure on...I think we could close the initiative tickets 2024-02-28 15:18:51 <@jflory7:fedora.im> 2024-02-28 15:19:34 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I think with them being approved, the work is done but we need the Initiatives and Co-Leads added to Council docs 2024-02-28 15:19:42 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I can help with that part, if you assign those tickets to me 2024-02-28 15:19:59 <@amoloney:fedora.im> Justin W. Flory (he/him): agreed on the logic model assigning 2024-02-28 15:20:00 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Once that is done, it is OK to close the Initiative tickets IMHO 2024-02-28 15:20:20 <@rwright:fedora.im> What about the 2023 Contributor Survey and some other older tickets? 2024-02-28 15:20:27 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I haven't had a chance to look and see if Sumantro Mukherjee was able to fill a row yet, that we could use as an example :) 2024-02-28 15:20:40 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Perhaps using our remaining hour to do a quick triage of old tickets would be helpful 2024-02-28 15:21:23 <@rwright:fedora.im> The only reason I bring all this up is just so we can state "Here's what is actively being worked" versus what is now a Backlog etc etc. Some of this I think is just old items not closed. 2024-02-28 15:21:34 <@jflory7:fedora.im> (I could still get pulled out randomly but will try to keep up as best as I can lol) 2024-02-28 15:21:54 <@jflory7:fedora.im> It might also be OK to let go of some things too 2024-02-28 15:22:14 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Let me take some quick notes 2024-02-28 15:22:21 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !topic Following up on Council Hackfest 2024-02-28 15:22:44 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !idea Each Council member owning a row of the logic model and completing a row of the logic model. Reconvene and review as a group, compare rows. 2024-02-28 15:23:15 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !info We want to better track the follow-up actions and we decided to do that as new Pagure tickets for the Council. Aoife to open these tickets. 2024-02-28 15:23:42 <@amoloney:fedora.im> Who is driving the ownership? Will someone assign row(s) to folks or is it a self-select? 2024-02-28 15:23:46 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !halp If there are key tasks you are thinking about following the hackfest, give Aoife a hand and open a new Council Pagure ticket :) 2024-02-28 15:23:53 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I think that's all? 2024-02-28 15:24:01 <@jflory7:fedora.im> It is a good question 2024-02-28 15:24:13 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I was waiting before taking something because I can take things that are leftover 2024-02-28 15:24:40 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I would rather others take things that they are passionate about. I can do other things without an owner because this is something that falls more squarely in my job responsibilities :) 2024-02-28 15:25:47 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Might be something we need more discussion on. Maybe a ticket for that specifically. 2024-02-28 15:25:58 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I could take an action to open a new ticket about the logic model specifically 2024-02-28 15:26:30 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !action @jflory7:fedora.im Open a new Council ticket about completing the Strategy logic model and assigning ownership of different focus areas/rows 2024-02-28 15:26:42 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Anything else right now on hackfest followups? Or shall we move to ticket triage and review. 2024-02-28 15:26:45 <@jflory7:fedora.im> *? 2024-02-28 15:27:41 <@amoloney:fedora.im> no I would like us to split the write ups from the hackfest too please, but I took an action to make tickets for each topic so the members can assign themselves to the topic they are going to do the write up on 2024-02-28 15:28:24 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Each topic, like the focus area/row from the logic model? 2024-02-28 15:29:04 <@jflory7:fedora.im> And write-ups like the blog post recapping the whole hackfest? 2024-02-28 15:29:12 <@amoloney:fedora.im> like someone do a write up on the mentored projects section of the hackfest, someone do a write up on the gitforge topic, someone write up about the matrix topic, etc 2024-02-28 15:29:45 <@jflory7:fedora.im> OK procedure is starting for real now. 2024-02-28 15:29:47 <@amoloney:fedora.im> there were lots of topics covered, and we can all take an area to do a quick write up on the discussion and outcome(s) 2024-02-28 15:29:49 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Actually AFK for ten minutes 2024-02-28 15:33:38 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !proposed Each council member will self-select a line from the logic model on the Fedora Strategy to complete by next meeting, Wednesday 13th March. Justin W. Flory (he/him) will create a ticket in the council tracker for tracking 2024-02-28 15:34:18 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !idea Each council member will self-select a line from the logic model on the Fedora Strategy to complete by next meeting, Wednesday 13th March. Justin W. Flory (he/him) will create a ticket in the council tracker for tracking 2024-02-28 15:34:27 <@amoloney:fedora.im> lets get some acks 2024-02-28 15:34:36 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !dea Each council member will self-select a line from the logic model on the Fedora Strategy to complete by next meeting, Wednesday 13th March. Justin W. Flory (he/him) will create a ticket in the council tracker for tracking 2024-02-28 15:34:44 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !idea Each council member will self-select a line from the logic model on the Fedora Strategy to complete by next meeting, Wednesday 13th March. Justin W. Flory (he/him) will create a ticket in the council tracker for tracking 2024-02-28 15:36:21 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !idea council members will take topics from the overall hackfest to do a short write up on - the discussion, and outcomes, and post as one blog to community blog by Wednesday March 27th 2024-02-28 15:36:21 <@jflory7:fedora.im> +1 2024-02-28 15:36:45 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !group members council 2024-02-28 15:36:46 <@zodbot:fedora.im> Members of council: Aoife Moloney, bt0dotninja, David Cantrell, FAS Fernando F. Mancera, Justin W. Flory, Jona Azizaj, Matthew Miller, Robert Wright, smeragoel, Sumantro Mukherjee, t0xic0der 2024-02-28 15:38:17 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !action Robert Wright (he/him) to add initiative leads, etc to council docs and close out ticket(s) once complete 2024-02-28 15:40:58 <@rwright:fedora.im> ack from me. 2024-02-28 15:43:59 <@amoloney:fedora.im> !idea either close the ticket, or pass the Contributor survey tickekt, https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/454 to Mindshare (or other) to own 2024-02-28 15:45:22 <@jflory7:fedora.im> It would be good to page bookwar on this one and what she wants to do with it 2024-02-28 15:45:27 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I am mostly back now 2024-02-28 15:47:52 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Done, commented on the ticket 2024-02-28 15:48:10 <@jflory7:fedora.im> The split conversations between Pagure and Discourse are really bothering me, I am having the same conversation in two places, ugh 2024-02-28 15:48:17 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Not going to rant on that right now though :P 2024-02-28 15:50:34 <@amoloney:fedora.im> with 10 mins to go have we any other items to address? 2024-02-28 15:50:47 <@amoloney:fedora.im> I think we have a few actions to go with atm 2024-02-28 15:51:08 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I am flipping through the ticket tracker now 2024-02-28 15:51:14 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Open to suggestions! 2024-02-28 15:53:30 <@sumantrom:fedora.im> I'm trying to fill out the rows :) just PSA 2024-02-28 15:54:25 <@rwright:fedora.im> Can I get a copy of the file to see? 2024-02-28 15:54:36 <@rwright:fedora.im> Or am I not thinking of the right sheet 2024-02-28 15:56:05 <@jflory7:fedora.im> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sZDafAG_xZ4eoiKh6ufjJycaihCjaB1mIK0nIde_qbA/edit?usp=sharing 2024-02-28 15:56:36 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Sumantro Mukherjee: Don't feel like you have to own all of a11y, I was looking specifically at immutable OS by default from you :) 2024-02-28 15:56:55 <@jflory7:fedora.im> But anything extra is fine. This is probably why a ticket will help so we can coordinate better 2024-02-28 15:56:59 <@jflory7:fedora.im> I am trying to draft it up right now 2024-02-28 15:57:36 <@amoloney:fedora.im> thanks Justin. I need to drop now, ping me for anything else, otherwise I have a few tickets to create too and will keep an eye out for the logic line item one 2024-02-28 15:57:57 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Ack. We can end here. 2024-02-28 15:58:07 <@amoloney:fedora.im> cya around folks! 2024-02-28 15:58:10 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Aoife Moloney: Could you help with posting up the meeting minutes on Discussion? 2024-02-28 15:58:44 <@jflory7:fedora.im> OK, we can coordinate on this in #council:fedoraproject.org, I don't want to block next meetings :) 2024-02-28 15:58:48 <@jflory7:fedora.im> Thanks all for being here. Ciao! 2024-02-28 15:58:51 <@jflory7:fedora.im> !endmeeting