18:01:18 <mizmo> #startmeeting 18:01:18 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Aug 11 18:01:18 2011 UTC. The chair is mizmo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:01:18 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 18:01:21 <mizmo> #topic roll call 18:01:23 <mizmo> who's about! 18:01:31 * gnokii is here 18:01:50 * tatica here, but has to leave $daywork meeting :( 18:02:27 <mizmo> hey kirkB 18:02:33 <pcon> o/ 18:02:41 <kirkB> heya 18:02:47 <mizmo> hey pcon :) 18:02:54 <pcon> mizmo: hey hey hey 18:03:58 <mizmo> so should we talk about supplemental wallpapers first? 18:04:48 <mizmo> maybe we could fpaste our votes 18:04:54 <mizmo> #topic supplemental wallpapers 18:05:40 <mizmo> here's my votes: http://fpaste.org/ry0w/ 18:05:45 <mizmo> we have msourada's votes on list 18:05:50 <mizmo> does anyone else have votes they'd like counted? 18:06:36 <mizmo> am i online? 18:06:40 <mizmo> did my connection drop? 18:06:43 <gnokii> yes u are 18:07:19 <mizmo> gnokii, do you have votes for the supplementals? 18:07:29 <mizmo> they are located here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F16_Artwork/Submissions/Supplemental_Wallpapers 18:07:40 <gnokii> mizmo I dont like to vote 18:07:59 <mizmo> gnokii, why? 18:08:12 <gnokii> because I like all 18:08:16 <mizmo> we're going to choose the supplementals based on two people's votes? ;-/ 18:08:29 <gnokii> there was more votes on the list 18:08:49 <kirkB> http://fpaste.org/wthm/ 18:08:49 <mizmo> i only see martin's 18:09:34 <mizmo> thanks kirkB! we have 3 sets now 18:09:47 <gnokii> ok, so I must vote? 18:09:54 <mizmo> you dont have to if you dont want to gnokii 18:10:27 <gnokii> if I have to to bring out a decission I do 18:10:47 <mizmo> pcon, when we get all the votes i'll email them to you to tally? 18:11:00 <pcon> mizmo: sounds good 18:11:04 <mizmo> cool 18:11:46 <pcon> mizmo: http://fpaste.org/DnP5/ 18:13:06 <mizmo> gnokii, what do you think? vote or abstain :) 18:13:30 <gnokii> I dont vote 18:13:32 <pcon> mizmo: i've got 4 votes via email (Maria, Kirk, msourada, Ryan) 18:14:27 <mizmo> oh okay great 18:14:37 <mizmo> okay so ill send you what we got here 18:14:41 <mizmo> for you to tally, one sec 18:14:46 <pcon> mizmo: k 18:15:10 <mizmo> pcon@fpo? 18:16:00 <mizmo> okay i just sent them 18:16:13 <mizmo> so the next steps... 18:16:27 * mizmo looks up wiki page 18:16:37 <mizmo> Supplemental 18:16:37 <mizmo> Mo 18:16:38 <mizmo> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Stump.jpg 18:16:38 <mizmo> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:DANDELION.JPG 18:16:38 <mizmo> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Beach.jpg 18:16:38 <mizmo> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Daisy_awakening.jpg 18:16:40 <mizmo> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Infinite_sky.jpg 18:16:42 <mizmo> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Splash.jpg 18:16:44 <mizmo> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Img_9212-1-1.jpg 18:16:46 <mizmo> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:BeeAndFlower.jpg 18:16:48 <mizmo> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Black-eyed-susan.jpg 18:16:50 <mizmo> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Cornice.jpg 18:16:52 <mizmo> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:The_roof.jpg 18:16:54 <mizmo> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Shanghai_red_flower_.jpg 18:16:55 <pcon> c/p goof? 18:16:56 <mizmo> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Moon_at_dusk_.jpg 18:16:58 <mizmo> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:SunsetAtKadaru.JPG 18:17:00 <mizmo> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Viasoleri.jpg 18:17:02 <mizmo> Kirk 18:17:04 <mizmo> Dandelion 18:17:06 <mizmo> Sunflower 18:17:08 <mizmo> Kyoto Station 1 18:17:10 <mizmo> The Roof 18:17:12 <mizmo> Icecycles 18:17:14 <mizmo> Longfellow 18:17:16 <mizmo> Stump 18:17:18 <mizmo> Sunset at Kadaru 18:17:20 <mizmo> Splash 18:17:22 <mizmo> Skye 18:17:24 <mizmo> Cherry Blossom Pagoda 18:17:26 <mizmo> Infinite Sky 18:17:28 <mizmo> MIT Dome 18:17:30 <mizmo> Beach 18:17:32 <mizmo> Taylor Square Fire 18:17:34 <mizmo> Martin 18:17:36 <mizmo> Dandelion by Pierre VERNAY 18:17:38 <mizmo> Sunflower by John (J5) Palmieri 18:17:40 <mizmo> UK Seed Cathedral by Corey Welton 18:17:42 <mizmo> Beijing Purple Flower by Corey Welton 18:17:44 <mizmo> Lake by susmit 18:17:46 <mizmo> Sunset by susmit 18:17:48 <mizmo> Icecycles by Peter Jones 18:17:50 <mizmo> Bee on Flower by Peter Jones 18:17:52 <mizmo> Cactus by Ryan Rix 18:17:54 <mizmo> butterfly2 by Elad Alfassa 18:17:56 <mizmo> Splash by Suchakra 18:17:58 <mizmo> Skye by Karl Abbott 18:18:00 <mizmo> Bee on Flower by pcon 18:18:02 <mizmo> Willow Spirea by Chris Ball 18:18:04 <mizmo> Daisy_awakening by Elena Hernanz 18:18:06 <mizmo> Pcon 18:18:08 <mizmo> Dandelion 18:18:10 <mizmo> UK Seed 18:18:12 <mizmo> The Bell tower 18:18:14 <mizmo> BeeAndFlower (pcon) 18:18:16 <mizmo> Skye 18:18:18 <mizmo> Snowed 18:18:20 <mizmo> Splash 18:18:22 <mizmo> Daisy awakening 18:18:24 <mizmo> beach 18:18:26 <mizmo> whoops sorry :( :( 18:18:28 <mizmo> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_manage_the_supplemental_wallpaper_process 18:18:30 <mizmo> yep, hit middle click by accident, meant to do ctrl v 18:18:32 <mizmo> :( 18:18:34 <mizmo> so the next steps are to tally the votes 18:18:36 <mizmo> then 'Contact the artists who created the 15 winning wallpapers, get their okay, confirm the license on each image. ' 18:18:39 <mizmo> is that something you're up for pcon? do you need any help? 18:19:18 <mizmo> we're going to have an extra week for everything 18:19:24 <mizmo> #topic schedule 18:19:31 <mizmo> and martin asked if we'd like to update our schedule dates 18:19:35 <mizmo> so everything is pushed a week out 18:19:40 <mizmo> does anybody have any opinion on that? 18:20:04 <mizmo> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F16_Artwork/Schedule is our current schedule 18:20:40 <mizmo> okay 18:20:43 <mizmo> #topic open floor 18:20:48 <mizmo> does anybody have anything they'd like to talk about? 18:20:54 <gnokii> yes 18:20:57 <mizmo> whats up 18:21:12 <mizmo> :) 18:21:29 <gnokii> yesterdays ambassador meeting, I was asked about status "Join" designs 18:22:00 <gnokii> and its in the protocol that we deside what we use, so characters are not to cute 18:22:38 <mizmo> gnokii, do you have a link to the latest mockup? 18:23:38 <gnokii> sure 18:24:15 <gnokii> ooh I should upload them 18:24:58 <mizmo> i really loved the last mockups that i saw 18:26:54 <gnokii> http://gnokii.fedorapeople.org/character.svg 18:28:17 <mizmo> i think those are great, we should use them 18:28:21 <mizmo> is there any problem to use them? 18:29:15 <gnokii> some ambassdors thaught they are not represented from kids 18:30:19 <kirkB> Are we looking for "kids" like Dora the Explorer age ... or teens ... or some other age range? 18:30:52 <kirkB> Some look younger than others, glasses for example looks younger than documentation. The lipstick on documentation ages her too 18:31:05 <mizmo> gnokii, well you could make them a little bit older looking if you make their eyes smaller i think 18:31:34 <gnokii> I can give them beards :D 18:31:34 <mizmo> i dont think its a problem though 18:31:36 <kirkB> Oh sorry, the Ambassadors wanted them to look older? 18:31:36 <mizmo> hehe 18:31:38 <mizmo> grey beards 18:32:14 <gnokii> is not so the problem as I said yesterday they said we can decide what to use 18:32:35 <mizmo> i think we should just go with them as-is 18:32:40 <gnokii> +1 18:32:41 <mizmo> what do you think kirkB? 18:33:17 <kirkB> Characters yes - can we update the text to read "contributing ...."? 18:33:26 <gnokii> so there is the png http://gnokii.fedorapeople.org/kids.png 18:33:30 <kirkB> but I love the characters 18:33:37 <gnokii> kirkB: the text was only fun from my side 18:34:01 <kirkB> oh OK 18:34:39 <kirkB> then two enthusiastic thumbs up from me 18:34:47 <mizmo> yay 18:34:58 * gnokii isnt responsible for text, thats something for marketing 18:35:00 <mizmo> so what are the next steps gnokii? do you need any help with the project? 18:35:45 <gnokii> now we should look how to do the pages, think ur idea with the "shadows" was not so bad 18:36:34 <mizmo> ah this one http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/fedora/postcard-idea_gnokii-kids.png 18:36:37 <mizmo> these were for printed post cards 18:36:42 <mizmo> what kind of material do the ambassadors need? 18:36:42 <gnokii> yes 18:36:45 <mizmo> a web page? postcars? 18:37:06 <gnokii> so far as I understood that whole thing was thaught for web pages 18:37:16 <mizmo> okay 18:37:24 <mizmo> would they be on www.fedoraproject.org, or on the wiki? 18:38:14 <gnokii> join.fp.o ? 18:38:42 <mizmo> oh okay great 18:39:04 <mizmo> so we need a mockup to show the kids on that page 18:39:07 <mizmo> maybe we need some sub pages too 18:39:27 <gnokii> I think so 18:39:36 <mizmo> #idea we need a mockup to show the kids (http://gnokii.fedorapeople.org/kids.png) on join.fedoraproject.org (could use postcard shadow idea: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/fedora/postcard-idea_gnokii-kids.png) 18:41:09 <mizmo> okay so maybe we'll send out a note to the list to see if anybody is interested in coming up with mockups? 18:41:26 <gnokii> mizmo: so far I know vinzv want to do that 18:42:27 <mizmo> okay cool 18:42:36 <mizmo> so we'll leave to him? 18:43:01 <gnokii> we should 18:43:30 <mizmo> okay 18:43:35 <mizmo> #action vinz working on mockups for join.fpo 18:43:36 <mizmo> cool 18:43:42 <mizmo> is there anything else to discuss? 18:43:46 <gnokii> next topic? 18:43:51 <mizmo> i have nothing really 18:43:54 <mizmo> just hte schedule 18:44:01 <gnokii> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F16_Artwork/Submissions/Banners 18:44:01 <mizmo> but it doesnt look like there are strong opinions on that 18:44:06 <mizmo> oh the banners 18:44:39 <gnokii> I think inkscaper is more near to the f16 artwork, so my proposal has not really to be used 18:44:52 <mizmo> gnokii, from the list it seems we are using julio and julia for the countdown, right? 18:45:13 <gnokii> how u mean that? 18:45:39 <mizmo> well alexander's designs are great for a static banner 18:45:47 <mizmo> but your design has space for a countdown # for the days left 18:45:50 <mizmo> where the '16' is 18:45:53 <gnokii> mizmo: he did also a counter design 18:45:58 <mizmo> oh let me look 18:46:17 <mizmo> hm i dont see it on the page 18:46:45 <mizmo> oh here it is http://inkscaper.fedorapeople.org/Fedora16/fedora16-countdown-banner-en.png 18:47:01 <mizmo> i think maybe we could add julio and julia to inkscaper's design though, what do you think? 18:47:03 <mizmo> i really like them 18:47:55 <gnokii> we can ask inkscaper but for me is also ok not to use them 18:48:05 <mizmo> okay 18:48:12 <mizmo> i want to use them somewhre 18:48:17 <mizmo> if not on the banner, maybe on the media sleeves 18:48:44 <gnokii> uups then I have to draw more details on julio :D 18:50:09 <mizmo> :) 18:50:51 <gnokii> is only the shirt pune open now :D 18:53:38 <mizmo> who is working on the pune shirt? 18:53:42 <mizmo> suchakra was working on the poster 18:53:48 <mizmo> and i think the pune team approved it 18:54:03 <gnokii> noone thats why I brought that topic 18:55:11 <mizmo> lets see if i can find the ticket 18:56:03 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/191 18:56:08 <mizmo> it looks like buddhika took that ticket 18:56:17 <mizmo> ill email him to see where it is as 18:56:19 <mizmo> s/as/at 18:57:25 <mizmo> okay just sent 18:57:32 <mizmo> can you think of any more topics gnokii? 18:57:48 <gnokii> should be all 18:58:18 <mizmo> cool ill close the meeting then 18:58:21 <mizmo> #endmeeting