19:05:49 <mizmo_> #startmeeting
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19:05:55 <mizmo_> #topic rollcall
19:06:28 * tatica barely here
19:06:31 * gnokii is here
19:07:01 * mizmo_ looking at the schedule
19:07:09 <mizmo_> we have a lot of stuff due sep 1
19:07:18 <mizmo_> ill probably start working on the banners due 1 sep tomorrow
19:07:27 <mizmo_> firstboot mainly. and grub/syslinux
19:07:35 <mizmo_> maybe just use the bg of the wallpaper for grub/syslinux
19:07:53 <mizmo_> firstboot, im not sure. maybe just a similar style to the anaconda ones we use now with the version number
19:07:57 <mizmo_> what do you think?
19:08:34 <mizmo_> we're good with website banners i think
19:08:45 <mizmo_> almost time to start thinking about the media artwork
19:10:00 <mizmo_> i guess lets just have a meeting next week
19:10:11 * finalzone is here after missing meeting due to conflicting schedule
19:10:29 <mizmo_> we havent been having very good participation in meetings lately
19:10:34 <mizmo_> should we move it again?
19:10:43 <mizmo_> i thoguht maybe it was because we had moved it and people were getting used to the new time
19:10:49 <mizmo_> but, it's been at least 8 weeks now
19:11:03 <mizmo_> would another time be more convenient?
19:11:23 <tatica> what if we get back to the old one?
19:11:32 <finalzone> I was used on tuesday schedule until I realized it was moved on thursday
19:11:47 <mizmo_> yeh thats what i thoguht was the issue but we've been at this slot for a long time now
19:11:49 <mizmo_> 2 months
19:12:03 <mizmo_> tatica, maybe its better to go back to the old one
19:12:15 <finalzone> i think so
19:12:30 <mizmo_> i like having it closer to the beginning of the week too
19:12:43 * tatica is a bit away today, sry
19:12:45 <gnokii> mizmo_: maybe we send out one reminder a month with ical as attachment for every 4 meeting so ppl get reminded from therepim application?
19:12:48 <mizmo_> maybe we can meet tuesday
19:12:55 <mizmo_> i don't have any way to automate remindres gnokii
19:13:06 <mizmo_> i looked to see if my hosting provider would let me do it, but they don't
19:13:13 <mizmo_> i dont have anyplace to host a script to do it either
19:13:31 <mizmo_> do you know of any way to send out automated reminders?
19:14:17 <finalzone> how does that process work?
19:14:22 <gnokii> at least u can use a simple shell script what does it
19:14:43 <mizmo_> writing shell scripts is difficult though. and its hard to get hosting for them because so many spammers abuse hosts
19:15:02 <gnokii> mizmo_: from ur local host of course
19:15:02 <mizmo_> i guess you either care about the team or you dont
19:15:14 <mizmo_> i have a laptop with wireless, it's not always connected
19:16:08 <gnokii> ok, I bring until to the next meeting a solution ok for that?
19:16:36 <mizmo_> yeh
19:16:44 <mizmo_> i guess we didnt historically even have meetings
19:16:47 <mizmo_> everything was through the list
19:17:02 <mizmo_> i dont remember why we started having meetings
19:17:04 <mizmo_> are the meetings useful?
19:17:31 <mizmo_> maybe theyre not useful and this is why folks dont come
19:17:41 <gnokii> i think so when u look how many u loose mails ;)
19:17:52 <mizmo_> what do you mean?
19:17:56 <finalzone> perhaps it is the schedule
19:18:22 <finalzone> I read mails but cannot reply to all of them =/
19:18:29 <gnokii> I mean, sometimes we miss some mails and the meetings brings that out
19:18:36 <mizmo_> ah fair enough
19:18:55 <pcon> mizmo_: i'm here.  missed the start of the meeting
19:19:01 <mizmo_> i think then an automated reminder solution + moving the meeting back to tuesday would be better
19:19:05 <mizmo_> hi pcon
19:19:12 <pcon> mizmo_: i do have news about the wallpapers!
19:19:13 <mizmo_> pcon, how are the supplementals going?
19:19:16 <mizmo_> wee
19:19:26 <finalzone> new version of thunderbird has conversation features that regroup topic as conversation
19:19:36 <pcon> mizmo_: we've got replies back from everyone, and we have photos that meet the size requirement on the wiki
19:19:43 <mizmo_> awesome
19:19:44 <pcon> mizmo_: we should be good to go for packaging
19:20:00 <mizmo_> yay :) can you send a mail to the list, pcon, and cc msourada so he can package them?
19:20:09 <pcon> sure
19:20:14 <mizmo_> awesome
19:21:03 <mizmo_> one way i know to set up automated meeting remidners is google calendar but i dont think using google is a good idea
19:21:14 <mizmo_> i wonder if the zarafa server is still up with calendar, and if that could be used
19:21:39 <mizmo_> i think it will send an ical too
19:21:40 <mizmo_> or ics
19:23:28 <gnokii> have I connection?
19:23:28 * mizmo_ is logging in now to check it out - http://admin.fedoraproject.org/zarafa
19:23:57 <mizmo_> yep
19:26:13 <mizmo_> it looks like zarafa has a reminder system
19:26:19 <mizmo_> but its unclear if it sends emails or not
19:27:18 <gnokii> that we can find out later ;)
19:27:30 <mizmo_> well i dont have anything else to talk about today
19:27:44 <mizmo_> i am still looking for ideas on the stuff i mentioned earlier for the splash screens, etc.
19:27:50 <mizmo_> but thats about it
19:27:56 <mizmo_> does anybody have anything theyd like to bring up
19:28:02 <gnokii> I have, I have done my task from last meeting and I am unhappy with the result
19:28:13 <mizmo_> tell me, whats up, what was the task
19:28:40 <gnokii> signing up for fudcon-planning list and send the turkey logo there for feedback
19:28:50 <pcon> mizmo_: just so you know, I'll be out of pocket next week during the meeting.  I'll still have email access if anything comes up
19:28:59 <gnokii> the only feedback was that it would look like an turkey
19:29:04 <mizmo_> pcon, okay cool
19:29:07 <mizmo_> gnokii, let me take a look
19:30:15 <mizmo_> gnokii, i dont see any replies to your message
19:30:23 <mizmo_> were they off-list?
19:30:31 <gnokii> there is one reply
19:31:12 <mizmo_> can you link me? i'm looking here but i don't see it https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/fudcon-planning/2011-August/thread.html#2690
19:31:14 <gnokii> from Thomas Cameron
19:31:36 <gnokii> ooh sorry he wrote me in private
19:32:32 <mizmo_> can you copy/paste?
19:32:39 <gnokii> yepp mom
19:32:42 <mizmo_> hehe
19:33:24 <mizmo_> jsmith, around?
19:34:19 <gnokii> http://fpaste.org/coT1
19:34:25 <mizmo_> gnokii, i think to move forward maybe jsmith would know what to do. typically we haven't had to ask for fudcon logo approvals because we've just used a basic template that doesn;t change
19:34:33 <mizmo_> with pune however we added the extra element, so those organizers had to approve
19:34:49 <mizmo_> since the organizers dont seem to have anything to say about your designs im not sure how to move forward
19:35:18 <mizmo_> i do have some feedback for you on the design, and i can mock something up as a modification idea really quick right now. but that doesnt help you move forward quite so much as an organizer's feedback
19:35:20 <gnokii> yeah that I think to, we stand not up in the time as he is asked have to be quiet later
19:35:23 <mizmo_> organizer / event owners
19:35:43 <gnokii> -we +who
19:36:13 <mizmo_> you mean, somebody might have an issue later on who's being quiet now?
19:36:19 <finalzone> perhaps move forward.
19:36:56 <finalzone> I have learned to not wait while working on project for a small community
19:36:57 <gnokii> no mizmo_ I mean I/we asked them the didnt answer so they have to be accept that we move forward now
19:37:36 <finalzone> take that as a go head sign
19:37:58 <mizmo_> ah okay
19:38:03 <finalzone> should some feedback come too late, that will be their problem
19:38:06 <mizmo_> gnokii, well let me put together some ideas/critique for you
19:38:17 <gnokii> ok
19:38:20 <mizmo_> you can take it or leave it, but maybe it would be helpful
19:38:32 <mizmo_> ill send it today, after this meeting
19:38:39 <gnokii> oki
19:38:53 <mizmo_> and then i would say move forward, it is up to you if you want to modify the design or just go with the third from the top
19:40:04 <gnokii> the third is my favorite to
19:40:53 <mizmo_> gnokii, i guess its good it reminded thomas of a turkey since that is what you were going for :)
19:41:27 <gnokii> yeah that I also thaught :D
19:44:15 <gnokii> have I a connection?
19:45:49 <mizmo_> yep
19:46:02 <mizmo_> does anyone have anything else to bring up?
19:46:06 <gnokii> sorry have to leave
19:46:10 <mizmo_> its all good
19:46:14 <mizmo_> let's call an end then
19:46:17 <mizmo_> #endmeeting