18:00:25 <mizmo> #startmeeting 18:00:25 <zodbot> Meeting started Fri Aug 10 18:00:25 2012 UTC. The chair is mizmo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:00:25 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 18:00:32 <mizmo> #topic Fedora 18 Alpha Wallpaper 18:01:03 <mizmo> roll call! 18:01:09 <gnokii> .fas gnokii 18:01:10 <zodbot> gnokii: gnokii 'Sirko Kemter' <buergermeister@karl-tux-stadt.de> 18:01:10 * mizmo <= mairin duffy 18:02:01 <mizmo> hm 18:02:01 <gnokii> looks we have all donuts for us alone 18:02:03 <mizmo> we missing a tatica 18:02:06 <cfoch> i'll not be able to be here 18:02:09 <mizmo> pseudomonas1, around? 18:02:23 <mizmo> cfoch, okay, do you have any progress on your mountains proposal? 18:02:38 <cfoch> no, I don't 18:02:57 <cfoch> http://cfoch.tumblr.com/search/fedora 18:03:02 <cfoch> have to go 18:03:05 <mizmo> cfoch, okay, do you intend to continue working on it for beta or would you like to drop your proposal at this time? 18:03:35 <cfoch> ok, I'll do 18:03:56 <mizmo> are you dropping it or continuing to work on it? 18:04:02 <mizmo> there's two choices :) which one? 18:04:12 <cfoch> btw... I friend've sent a wallpaper made in blender 18:04:16 <cfoch> yes 18:04:19 <mizmo> cfoch, yes to which 18:04:25 <cfoch> the second lol 18:04:29 <cfoch> sorry 18:04:31 <mizmo> okay thank you 18:04:36 <cfoch> bye 18:04:39 <cfoch> take care 18:04:39 <mizmo> #action cfoch will continue to work on his mountains proposal 18:04:48 <mizmo> #info cfoch hasn't made more progress on mountains yet 18:05:02 <mizmo> i know pseudomonas1 made some updates to her dahlia wallpaper but i don't have a link to it 18:05:06 <mizmo> and she's in the meeting im in without a laptop 18:05:08 <cfoch> pd: save a log 18:05:11 <cfoch> o/ 18:05:12 <mizmo> so my guess is she's continuing to work on it 18:05:24 <mizmo> #action pseudomonas1 continuing to work on dahlia proposal 18:05:37 <mizmo> gnokii, tatica made some progress with bokeh and made a blog post right? 18:06:08 <gnokii> yes, think so she called for help she got some hitns but since then I saw no new work 18:06:21 <mizmo> okay 18:06:38 <mizmo> #action folks interested in Fedora bokeh wallpaper should talk to tatica about helping with the proposal 18:06:42 <mizmo> #link http://tatica.org/2012/08/06/fedora-bokeh-test-wallpapers-and-i-need-help/ 18:06:53 * ryanlerch is here now! 18:06:54 <mizmo> #info tatica produced some sample fedora shape bokeh and would like some advice / help 18:07:13 <mizmo> okay so beyond that we have 3 other proposals 18:07:27 <mizmo> we have the spherical cow you've been working on gnokii 18:07:43 <mizmo> the dandelion one, which i think is pretty much done and would make a good alternative / supplemental / non-default 18:07:47 <gnokii> http://gnokii.fedorapeople.org/sphericalcow.png 18:07:49 <mizmo> and the steel one we've been working on together 18:07:58 <mizmo> #link http://gnokii.fedorapeople.org/sphericalcow.png 18:08:03 <gnokii> last status, looks better now but I am still unhappy 18:08:09 <mizmo> #info gnokii has made several iterations of the spherical cow, still unhappy with it 18:08:30 <mizmo> gnokii, do we want to fall back on the steel bitmap version (Vector not ready yet) for alpha, and keep developing the others? 18:08:46 <mizmo> and maybe use the rest of this meeting to do some critique / ideas for the spherical cow since you're not happy with it yet? 18:09:13 <gnokii> that we could do, so far I know jreznik like to have ur wallpaper for alpha today 18:09:21 <mizmo> yep 18:09:21 <mizmo> well 18:09:25 <mizmo> it needs to be package by aug 15 18:09:49 <mizmo> so what ill do is send it to msourada and see if he can package it by then 18:09:58 <gnokii> mizmo: how would steel with an fade in to mine look? 18:09:59 <mizmo> this makes sense? 18:10:07 <mizmo> thats a good question 18:10:10 <mizmo> yours is all vector 18:10:20 <mizmo> and we have a vector version of steel, although the vector version is single-monitor only 18:10:29 <mizmo> so we could be able to import steel as a background behind yours 18:10:52 <ryanlerch> mizmo: i think that might work 18:10:54 <mizmo> we probably dont have time to do that for alpha though 18:10:54 <gnokii> I am just unhappy with the pattern in the background 18:10:56 <ryanlerch> i like that idea 18:11:06 <mizmo> i do feel like the spheres are a little large 18:11:47 <mizmo> i think we could draw a series of very small (like, 350x150) thumbnails and brainstorm some alternative layouts of the spheres 18:11:52 <mizmo> maybe smaller proportionally 18:11:58 <mizmo> does that make sense? 18:12:06 <gnokii> u mean my spheres? 18:12:08 <mizmo> yeh 18:12:18 <mizmo> do you know what i mean? 18:12:27 <mizmo> the way i could explain it - they are kind of like eyeballs 18:12:37 <gnokii> I made them bigger as the first ones, think that looks better then to small ones 18:12:42 <mizmo> so when they are that large in proportion, it's like big eyes staring at me 18:12:58 <mizmo> i think the change in scale is good 18:13:05 <mizmo> but i think they could all be maybe 50% the size 18:13:11 <gnokii> mizmo: its a eye of a drad cow :D 18:13:12 <mizmo> the proportion to the full size of the wallpaper i think is too high 18:13:14 <mizmo> lol 18:13:19 <mizmo> cow eye 18:13:23 <gnokii> dead I meant 18:13:57 <mizmo> electric cow 18:15:02 <ryanlerch> the spherical cow eye of sauron 18:15:17 <mizmo> hehe 18:15:18 <gnokii> :D 18:15:52 <niteshnarayanlal> sorry to interrupt but +1 for ryanlerch 18:16:14 <mizmo> one sec 18:16:51 <gnokii> lets test how it looks smaller 18:19:28 * mizmo back 18:19:37 * mizmo opens up mypaint and does some thumbnail sketches as well 18:19:44 <mizmo> (if anything so u can see what i mean) 18:20:27 <gnokii> http://gnokii.fedorapeople.org/spericalcow1.svg 18:20:45 <gnokii> there is the source of the eyeball of the dead cow 18:22:27 <gnokii> welcome msourada 18:22:37 <msourada> hi gnokii 18:23:58 <msourada> was the meeting canceled or is it in different channel? 18:24:05 <gnokii> no its in here 18:24:15 <gnokii> mizmo: paints something in mypaint 18:24:23 <msourada> ah okay 18:27:08 <msourada> Has anyone started one preparing the rpm packaging, or am I free to prepare for it? I've been tight on spare time lately, so a little bit out of the loop... 18:28:06 <gnokii> msourada: not yet, we still search for the design 18:29:32 <msourada> ok, then I prepare the infra for packaging so that I'll be able to quickly put it together when design is out. 18:30:29 <mizmo> gnokii, http://i.imgur.com/CP6EK.png 18:30:46 <mizmo> msourada, ill send you an email tonight with it 18:30:53 <mizmo> msourada, does that work? 18:31:13 <msourada> mizmo, hi, yes 18:31:19 <mizmo> okay cool 18:31:59 <gnokii> mmh 18:32:34 <gnokii> mizmo: where is the steel bg? 18:32:59 <mizmo> #link http://blog.linuxgrrl.com/2012/07/31/fedora-18-wallpaper-hackfest-report/ 18:33:10 <mizmo> http://pookstar.deviantart.com/art/Stainless-blue-cloth-315476739 18:33:16 <mizmo> thats the bitmap one but it needs cleaning up on the top 18:33:28 <mizmo> here is the svg http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f18/stainless%20steel/ 18:35:00 <mizmo> here is some more thumbnails http://i.imgur.com/f42Qa.png 18:35:51 <gnokii> huff is that a fat file, hopefully I got that so fast 18:37:55 <gnokii> it takes time with the export 18:39:49 <gnokii> http://gnokii.fedorapeople.org/sphericalcow1.png 18:40:47 <mizmo> hm 18:40:54 <mizmo> it looks a bit strange, they dont seem related 18:41:01 <mizmo> they are on different planes 18:41:26 <gnokii> yeah, dont like it also 18:41:42 <mizmo> i think playing with the layout of the spheres will help 18:41:45 <mizmo> and the proportion 18:41:51 <mizmo> do you have an svg in the dir? 18:42:03 <mizmo> sphericalcow1.svg is it? 18:42:45 <gnokii> no that one is without the steel bg 18:42:54 <mizmo> oh ok 18:43:27 <gnokii> sphericalcow1.svg is the last one I made 18:43:48 <gnokii> lets go with steel 18:46:09 <mizmo> well im still playing hold one :) 18:46:12 <mizmo> hold on 18:49:12 * gnokii brings a glass of wiskey and a cigar for msourada and ryanlerch http://img.susepaste.org/a1b503ba 18:55:36 * mizmo still working on it 18:57:14 <gnokii> mizmo: no problem we have enough wiskey and cigars 18:57:50 * msourada thanks gnokii and drinks the whiskey with ryanlerch while offering whisky to gnokii and mizmo 19:11:09 <mizmo> okay i have something to show 19:11:11 <mizmo> just have to upload one sec 19:13:20 <mizmo> gnokii, http://imgur.com/8uwaS 19:13:42 <mizmo> i think imgur compress it too much 19:13:56 <gnokii> yeah thats cool 19:14:23 <ryanlerch> mizmo: i like it, it looks okay from here. enough to get the idea 19:14:49 <ryanlerch> do we want the bubbles / cow eyes on just the right? or more random over the majority of the schreen? 19:14:54 <ryanlerch> *screen 19:15:07 <mizmo> http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f18/nebula/sphericalcow2.png 19:15:26 <mizmo> ryanlerch, this is a mockup i did ealrier http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f18/nebula/spherical-cow-mo.png (last week) 19:15:39 <mizmo> i dont know if the mashup with steel works 19:16:39 <ryanlerch> mizmo: i know what you mean, maybe it is because of the lines of the stell and the circles... 19:17:02 <ryanlerch> it may work better with more a noisey background. 19:17:23 <ryanlerch> i kinda still do just like the steel by itself more. :) 19:17:51 <msourada> mizmo: some parts remind me of meteor showers => maybe if you aligned more circles with endings of the steel lines it would work better? 19:18:25 <mizmo> hm maybe 19:18:32 * mizmo tries 19:18:34 <gnokii> maybe we should mix taticas bokeh under the nebula/eyes of dead cows 19:23:06 <mizmo> msourada, like meteors? http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f18/nebula/sphericalcow4.png 19:23:42 <msourada> mizmo, IMHO much better :) 19:25:43 <mizmo> i think it still neds more refinement but its the right kind of layout i think 19:25:46 <mizmo> layout/positioning 19:26:23 <gnokii> that are not meteors that are qubits of a quantum computer 19:27:11 <msourada> lol, they are spherical pure energy based beings called cows 19:29:18 <msourada> and right now they're showering down upon the Earth taking over all you computers 19:29:31 <gnokii> when they are so small there is no problem with the glowing I had 19:34:12 <gnokii> so what we do now? 19:35:34 <mizmo> http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f18/nebula/sphericalcow5.png 19:37:28 <gnokii> it becomes more & more better, smaller looks indeed better 19:37:46 <msourada> mizmo, I'd rather do cropping than expanding from 4:3 to 16:10... the top-left part in your last image is kind of deaf, if you get what I mean, the layout itself is better though 19:40:10 <msourada> btw, I've finished testing rpm, based on the sphericalcow4 version... looks pretty good on (xfce) desktop IMHO 19:43:00 <msourada> http://mso.fedorapeople.org/spherical-cow/ 19:46:14 <mizmo> msourada, yeh this is all hacky work, it wouldn' tbe bad except i had to roughly reize the texture 19:46:31 <mizmo> gnokii, msourada - we'll continue to polish this then and use it for alpha? 19:46:44 <msourada> +1 19:46:48 <gnokii> mizmo: yes, its beautiful 19:46:50 <mizmo> yay :) 19:47:00 <mizmo> thanks for the great idea msourada, we were stumped how to integrate the spheres properly 19:47:27 <msourada> :) 19:48:49 <gnokii> ryanlerch: what u think? 20:17:14 <mizmo> gnokii, i just showed it to a room of like 12+ people hehe 20:17:20 <mizmo> i think they liked it 20:17:26 <gnokii> cool 20:17:39 <mizmo> :) 20:44:29 <gnokii> ola senorita tatica 20:44:35 * tatica arriving 20:44:38 <tatica> how was meeting? 20:44:57 <gnokii> its still open mizmo didnt type #endmeeting yet 20:45:02 <tatica> ouch 20:45:45 <gnokii> tatica: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f18/nebula/sphericalcow5.png 21:01:20 <mizmo> woops 21:01:22 <mizmo> #endmeeting